Camera Problems! - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi all,
I have had HTC phones right from the XDA (1) and i've had all the different range. I must say that either i'm a slow learner or just a little stupid. I can't honestly think of why I always go for this line of phones. even to the point of having 4 different tele numbers in the last 6 years just to keep up (swapping between O2 and Orange more than a few times).
.....well, still have not learnt my lesson!
I had my M3100 the day it was released. even drove a 2 hour round trip to (parcel-line depot) to get it.
After playing with my new toy I found that the camera can cause a few problems with the phone. on all occasions I get one of three happenings (in equal measure)
1: the camera function takes the image and displays the image (as is normal)
2: the camera takes an image of nothing, complete blank (no i'm not blocking the the lens)
3: the camera takes the image and them closes the program rendering the camera useless.
I've done all the usual - resetting and hard reset. nothing helps and the phone has done this from new.
Orange have already sent a new one out - I get it tomorrow! I would like to know if this is a one off?
Why am i stupid - well because maybe i'm unlucky, but i have never had an HTC phone that has not needed to be returned at least twice!!!
It maybe because I get them as soon as they come out, or just, as i said, just plain bad luck.
still I've got another 25 days where Orange will replace with new.
will I need it?
Let me know if anyone eles has problems with their M3100 camera?
Widhill :?:

Hi
As you can see in my previous message i have same issues with camera.........I dont know what to do

Camera Problem M3100
I also have the problem of taking images that are blank. The problem appears to occur less often at lower resolutions.
Is it a hardware or software problem?

The problem with blank/black pics can sometimes be resolved by removing the micros sd card, putting it back in and soft reset. It worked for me.
Good Luck

I had the same camera problems you have been experiencing (camera app crashing -> unusuable until next reboot) or taking blank pictures after a few successfull ones. I traced the problem to the Super Fine quality setting, having changed it into Fine I have not had a single problem with the camera application. Seems like there is a memory buffer overflow problem or something like that when using the Super Fine setting.
Anyway, I have not noticed any quality problems with the Fine setting compared to Super Fine, so this should solve the problem you have.
Kim

nAmCE said:
I had the same camera problems you have been experiencing (camera app crashing -> unusuable until next reboot) or taking blank pictures after a few successfull ones. I traced the problem to the Super Fine quality setting, having changed it into Fine I have not had a single problem with the camera application. Seems like there is a memory buffer overflow problem or something like that when using the Super Fine setting.
Anyway, I have not noticed any quality problems with the Fine setting compared to Super Fine, so this should solve the problem you have.
Kim
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Thanks for that nAmCE. Just looked at my default settings on my varioII. It was set to 'Fine' and worked with no probs. Adjusted it to 'Superfine' and it resulted in blank picture, so have re-adjusted to 'Fine' and all's back to normal. Well done for finding that one out. :lol:

Thanks 4 the feedback. I was using 'superfine' setting. I've now changed to 'fine' and no problems so far.
Thanks again.

Thanks for help - now I feel a little bit guilty over the 2 other phones replaced by orange (must say excellent service when reporting a faulty phone, next day delivery of brand new phone with a new 28 day replacement warranty)
Still I guess Orange should test the system better as even the latest phone still does it. However, going into fine mode is ....fine!
Thanks once again!

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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?
seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal
FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore
Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH
ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?
Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen
GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal
The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.
great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?
You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.
Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

Camera horrible =(

how come the camera on the XDA is horrible, its grainy and dark... i tried adjusting the settings but then after i closed and reopened the camera quality was back to being bad again. is there a fix for this or is that how the camera is.
I mainly use the night mode indoors and save the auto mode for outside. Make sure you work out the settings with your computer; the best pictures on the PDA aren't always the best on the computer and vice-versa.
Oh yeah, I don't think you can make most of the settings stick other than the auto/daylight/dark etc. mode.
I have another problem with my camera...
When i take a shot, the image displayed in the viewfinder before capturing, is perfectly lit with the right brightness-contrast etc.
But when i capture an image, it brightens it up until the image bleeds, and its terrible....I tried to adjust different settings, but it still did the same.
Its good for night shots, but during day time, i get 80% of my pixels completely white!
Not too bothered, as the camera is actually pointless for me....and besides, i'm not the "take pictures often" kinda guy!
San
read my camera tweak topic.
try CoolCamera
http://www.ateksoft.com/files/CoolCameraTest.zip
i found turning off 3g, and using gsm has helped a lot with all aspects of my phone. the camera looks a LOT better compared to a week ago when it was on 3g. back then, i thought it was completely unusable..thats how bad the quality was. and i had tried night time mode indoors, and it all jjust came out blurred
where's the camera tweak post? i'm starting not to like this phone, there is way to many tweaks and changes that have to be done to it just to make it an 'ok' usable phone.
el_illumbrato said:
i found turning off 3g, and using gsm has helped a lot with all aspects of my phone. the camera looks a LOT better compared to a week ago when it was on 3g. back then, i thought it was completely unusable..thats how bad the quality was. and i had tried night time mode indoors, and it all jjust came out blurred
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how do you turn of 3G?
thats strange the camera seams fine to me i havent had and of the note problems
alix776 said:
thats strange the camera seams fine to me i havent had and of the note problems
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What ROM version are you using? We are all referring to the latest I-Mate and QTEK ROM. You might be using the old version of O2 which does not have those pixel dots.
dreamtheater39 said:
When i take a shot, the image displayed in the viewfinder before capturing, is perfectly lit with the right brightness-contrast etc.
But when i capture an image, it brightens it up until the image bleeds, and its terrible....I tried to adjust different settings, but it still did the same.
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In these days i'm using camera and i have this problem, is there a solution???
If anyone is still there I havve a problem. When I tried to update it. i think it failed and got stuck on the serial v1.00 botloader. Luckily I found a way to fix that. May one of you please supply the 1.30.79 WWE QTEK-TMobile rom please I cannot find it. Also I ahve a 4gb that's not working with my device. Could it be possible that my rom is to old and the update for 4gb cards haven't been set in place fo r that rom? This the only time I've heard of a 4g card not working. Please help. I think its a 2005 rom

problems with new o2 rom

Hi,
just downloaded and installed o2 rom version 2.21.4.1 on my mini s. Everything works fine on but the "pictures & videos" program. It just wont start, not even when trying to start the program thru the camara. So at the moment i cannot view any photo's i've taken! Is there any way to fix this. I've re-flashed with the new rom a couple of times and still no good. Can i re-flash back to the original o2 rom? If not is there any software that lets me view my pics?
cheers
Did you download the ROM again or just re-try the ROM you had? I would try a new download.
hi,
what try to download from o2 agian or from another source? IOf so where else can i download from?
cheers
just downloaded from xda ftp site and it's still no good. The pictures and video program still aint working. Tried to get the original rom back on but it aint happening.
any ideas
Hi,
still no good cant work out whats gone on but i cannot view any pics taken. Is there any software out there that does the same thing as the pic & video prog?
cheers
Strange, I just checked, it's workin' OK on my miniS.
I don't use it anyway - for photos try
http://www.xnview.fr/site_uk/Pocket_uk/
or for vids
http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about
of course
cheers for that mate. yeah it's really strange, doing me head in. I've downloaded and re-installed now 3 times but still no good. Contacted o2 so hopefully there can share some light on it.
cheers
p.s
is there any way to put the old rom back on?
Pretty disillusioned with the new ROM.
Reception has improved, and it seems a little quicker than before, but I now have a recurring problem.
Basically if I leave my XDA Mini S connected to the PC (home or work, makes no difference), to allow activesync to keep it up to date, eventually the thing hangs (hung overnight last night and missed my alarm). Problem is of course that it looks like its working fine (normal screen display), but it has frozen and is unresponsive to key presses and screen taps. Other problem is that when you call it in this state it rings (on the caller side) but there is obviously no alert from the phone itself. Furthermore it receives texts which then just "disappear" (I assume so as test messages sent while its frozen never arrive once its switched on). Any ideas anyone?
I thought it might have been cLaunch, but it happened last night with cLaunch uninstalled. It also happens with PocketBreeze off (no today plugins active at all). Maybe it's "Batti" but I hope not as the functional alternative is PocketPlus which as far as I am concerned is bloatware.
cant say mines ever done that. another problem i spotted is cant access any networkd thru wi-fi??? Rang o2 and there said it could be a 3rd party software problem, but the thing is i aint even got round to installing any yet. in the end they've put it down to a camera fault. Sent it back under warrenty this afternoon so a new one should come by friday. O2 are unsure what rom version will be shiped with it thoso will just have to wait and see.
cheers

black pics with camera

Hi all
Sometime the camera of my Tytn makes black pics........anyone knows how to solve this problem????
thanks
Never heard of this, except:
Don't hold your finger in front of the lens. :wink:
Moskus said:
Don't hold your finger in front of the lens. :wink:
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ROTFL :lol:
I have had this problem before. You have to take out the MicroSD card and re-insert it then do a soft reset then all is good.
Same problem here!!
I've got the same problem. It seems to black out when I take photos in bright daylight or bright lights. Could be an software problem related to the metering / exposure. Taking out the MicroSD card doesn't help.
Vodafone v1605 & HTC TyTN ROM 1.35, SuperCID SPL-1.04
i 've heard this problem before .
you have to choose "fine" and not "super fine " in the camera parameters
yoshi78 said:
i 've heard this problem before .
you have to choose "fine" and not "super fine " in the camera parameters
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That sucks! Will experiment once I get the battery charged up again
Dear HTC: What's the bloody point of SuperFine if all it takes is darkness?!?!
nizam.tg said:
That sucks! Will experiment once I get the battery charged up again
Dear HTC: What's the bloody point of SuperFine if all it takes is darkness?!?!
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Well I did have a very ocassional problem with superfine setting and the old black picture problem. This thankfully is not a routine problem and I think it just happens if device gets short on memory. Since I moved virtually everything onto sd card and got an application to truly shut down running programmes it's never done it since - as I say it was only a sporadic problem anyway.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Well I did have a very ocassional problem with superfine setting and the old black picture problem. This thankfully is not a routine problem and I think it just happens if device gets short on memory. Since I moved virtually everything onto sd card and got an application to truly shut down running programmes it's never done it since - as I say it was only a sporadic problem anyway.
Mike
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I have 27MB of free program memory fresh after a reset so I don't think that's quite a problem. Got a SanDisk Ultra II 2GB MicroSD card too. I've tried the Fine setting and it seems to work so far but I'm pretty annoyed I can't use SuperFine!
Go for the best!
nizam.tg said:
I have 27MB of free program memory fresh after a reset so I don't think that's quite a problem. Got a SanDisk Ultra II 2GB MicroSD card too. I've tried the Fine setting and it seems to work so far but I'm pretty annoyed I can't use SuperFine!
Go for the best!
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Interesting, at the moment all I can say for sure is I had the problem and now it's gone, I had assumed a memory issue. Not necessarily amount of programme memory but perhaps cache size/fault.
Does yours not work on superfine when set to save to On-board, SD card or both?
Mike
mikechannon said:
Interesting, at the moment all I can say for sure is I had the problem and now it's gone, I had assumed a memory issue. Not necessarily amount of programme memory but perhaps cache size/fault.
Does yours not work on superfine when set to save to On-board, SD card or both?
Mike
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Tested both, even the Extended ROM with no success. I've also increased the WM5 cache to 4MB so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem either. Not to mention 41MB free Storage memory since everything's on the MicroSD card.
Anyone else experienced this problem?
nizam.tg said:
Tested both, even the Extended ROM with no success. I've also increased the WM5 cache to 4MB so I'm pretty sure that isn't the problem either. Not to mention 41MB free Storage memory since everything's on the MicroSD card.
Anyone else experienced this problem?
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Some folks at modaco with same problem. No sign of a standard solution though except one person found a hard reset and selective re-installing of progs. worked for him:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=244706
Mike
batmar333 said:
Hi all
Sometime the camera of my Tytn makes black pics........anyone knows how to solve this problem????
thanks
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It feels more like a driver issue to me, or something similar. I installed CoolCamera 1.5b beta, when the normal capera ap takes black pics, I switch to CoolCamera, ake a pic, then switch back to the regular camera, and it seems to work ok again. Very weird I think.
I replied to a similar thread on thursday night saying that I had seen this problem once my TyTN had come back from repair. but then hadn't seen it for many weeks. Sure enough Friday morning, I was taking blank pictures again.
I also noticed that the camera application seems to crash when this happens. It no longer appears in the Running Programs list to shut down and when you hit the camera button it says cannot start camera application - application already in use or something. A soft reset fixed it....
At the moment I am unable to tell if this is a hardware or software issue... because it seems that if I open the keyboard.. then shut it "firmly" (i only did this out of frustration really) but the app started working again properly.
I don't think it's got anything to do with the settings (super-fine - fine etc.) I could take blank pictures an virtually all the settings.
hello =( I just came to Walt Disney World yesterday and I did not have this problem untill now.. I am typing on my device at the moment inside MGM.. the only things I hve changed were
1.. changed my registry for NO animation of the menues 0 value
2.. most I'm portant I did upgrade my rom before I came..
3.. my enviroment has changed.. I live in Pittsburgh, PA.. I did not have 3G until now here in Orlando FL.
4th installed Opera browser for wm5.
I aam just now hving this problem
if I can think of any other real changes ill let know..
I've even tried soft reboot and off then on.. nothing.
ny new idea's or suggestions ?
mrderby said:
hello =( I just came to Walt Disney World yesterday and I did not have this problem untill now.. I am typing on my device at the moment inside MGM.. the only things I hve changed were
1.. changed my registry for NO animation of the menues 0 value
2.. most I'm portant I did upgrade my rom before I came..
3.. my enviroment has changed.. I live in Pittsburgh, PA.. I did not have 3G until now here in Orlando FL.
4th installed Opera browser for wm5.
I aam just now hving this problem
if I can think of any other real changes ill let know..
I've even tried soft reboot and off then on.. nothing.
ny new idea's or suggestions ?
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I don't suppose you have coolcamera installed so you can try rassah's trick
"It feels more like a driver issue to me, or something similar. I installed CoolCamera 1.5b beta, when the normal camera ap takes black pics, I switch to CoolCamera, take a pic, then switch back to the regular camera, and it seems to work ok again. Very weird I think."
Have fun at Disney world - The seven dwarves were in the bed feeling Happy, so happy got out!!!! Told to me by Sleazey the lesser known 8th dwarf.
Mike

Use of Camera Rebooting phone

Hi, Ive only recently found the wonders of the cooked Rom and for the most part I have been hugely impressed with the speed and features of many a great build.
However I seem to be experiencing a problem with my Hero's camera with whatever build I use whether it is Cronos's or Froydvillian. Every now and again when I open the camera application the phone forcibly reboots. This never happens the first time opening the app after booting up but always after ive been using the phone for a while and have opening up the app before.
Does anyone have any clue whats causing this? I got rather annoyed today when I missed out getting a pic of what I believe was an old spitfire being hauled through London on the back of a truck due to the phone rebooting!

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