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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

Camera Problems!

Hi all,
I have had HTC phones right from the XDA (1) and i've had all the different range. I must say that either i'm a slow learner or just a little stupid. I can't honestly think of why I always go for this line of phones. even to the point of having 4 different tele numbers in the last 6 years just to keep up (swapping between O2 and Orange more than a few times).
.....well, still have not learnt my lesson!
I had my M3100 the day it was released. even drove a 2 hour round trip to (parcel-line depot) to get it.
After playing with my new toy I found that the camera can cause a few problems with the phone. on all occasions I get one of three happenings (in equal measure)
1: the camera function takes the image and displays the image (as is normal)
2: the camera takes an image of nothing, complete blank (no i'm not blocking the the lens)
3: the camera takes the image and them closes the program rendering the camera useless.
I've done all the usual - resetting and hard reset. nothing helps and the phone has done this from new.
Orange have already sent a new one out - I get it tomorrow! I would like to know if this is a one off?
Why am i stupid - well because maybe i'm unlucky, but i have never had an HTC phone that has not needed to be returned at least twice!!!
It maybe because I get them as soon as they come out, or just, as i said, just plain bad luck.
still I've got another 25 days where Orange will replace with new.
will I need it?
Let me know if anyone eles has problems with their M3100 camera?
Widhill :?:

Hi
As you can see in my previous message i have same issues with camera.........I dont know what to do

Camera Problem M3100
I also have the problem of taking images that are blank. The problem appears to occur less often at lower resolutions.
Is it a hardware or software problem?

The problem with blank/black pics can sometimes be resolved by removing the micros sd card, putting it back in and soft reset. It worked for me.
Good Luck

I had the same camera problems you have been experiencing (camera app crashing -> unusuable until next reboot) or taking blank pictures after a few successfull ones. I traced the problem to the Super Fine quality setting, having changed it into Fine I have not had a single problem with the camera application. Seems like there is a memory buffer overflow problem or something like that when using the Super Fine setting.
Anyway, I have not noticed any quality problems with the Fine setting compared to Super Fine, so this should solve the problem you have.
Kim

nAmCE said:
I had the same camera problems you have been experiencing (camera app crashing -> unusuable until next reboot) or taking blank pictures after a few successfull ones. I traced the problem to the Super Fine quality setting, having changed it into Fine I have not had a single problem with the camera application. Seems like there is a memory buffer overflow problem or something like that when using the Super Fine setting.
Anyway, I have not noticed any quality problems with the Fine setting compared to Super Fine, so this should solve the problem you have.
Kim
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Thanks for that nAmCE. Just looked at my default settings on my varioII. It was set to 'Fine' and worked with no probs. Adjusted it to 'Superfine' and it resulted in blank picture, so have re-adjusted to 'Fine' and all's back to normal. Well done for finding that one out. :lol:

Thanks 4 the feedback. I was using 'superfine' setting. I've now changed to 'fine' and no problems so far.
Thanks again.

Thanks for help - now I feel a little bit guilty over the 2 other phones replaced by orange (must say excellent service when reporting a faulty phone, next day delivery of brand new phone with a new 28 day replacement warranty)
Still I guess Orange should test the system better as even the latest phone still does it. However, going into fine mode is ....fine!
Thanks once again!

Occasional freeze problem

I recently got a Touch Dual/Niki and from time to time when being in standby (the screen turned off) it doesn't respond on any button press, nor does it react when trying to call it, I've got it back up and running only by removing the battery, setting it back and then I can turn on the device again.
I haven't really customized anything and the only 3rd party software that I know that have been running at the time are gmail client and/or live messenger
Anyone else experienced the same problems? ..does this seem like some software bug, or is my hardware faulty?
Rom: 1.31.414.02
Rom date: 11/02/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03H
Operator Saunalahti/Finland

same problem here!

I'd guess hardware, but just to be safe, you should probably do a hard reset and see if that helps. I had a problem with mine where it would lose random amounts of time every once in a while (the clock would be completly wrong) and the screen would become completely unresponsive for over a minute just after I rebooted the phone. At one point, it just decided it didn't want to boot and just got stuck on the WM loading screen, even after multiple hard resets. I replaced the device and the new one works perfectly.

yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later

ok, just did the hard reset, if it happens again I'll go replace it

Lord of the Badgers said:
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
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same here. at the moment I try to live with that, although it's rather annoying. happens 3 to 4 times a day. no response to touchscreen or buttons, but touching the screen makes the backlight going from dimmed to bright. (you know, after quite a while being idle, it dims and after another while it goes to standby)
about half a minute later it's back and executes some (or all) of the inputs at once.
I use some third party programs and tools, but nothing which diggs deep in the system (except AEButton+). So maybe it's one of them. Also I use scheduled IMAP synchronization, which may also play a part in this.
Any one-fits-all solution is deeply appreciated. (Not very impressive to show a frozen device...)
Cheers,
jekk

Ok, it just happened again.. I'll go complain to service.

Same thing here... happens whenever it feels like it. I thought it may have been one of my apps.... particularly Photo Contacts Pro as every now and then that does some strange things, but interesting to know this happens to others as well.

yeah
just happened to me again as well

any solutions?
*bump*
Currently I wonder whether this is a hardware or software issue. So some questions:
did someone flash the problem away?
did someone hard-reset the problem away?
did someone device-replace the problem away?
This would be helpful.
Cheers,
jekk.

Flashed my niki.
I'm getting very regular freeze up's on browsing the internet with a 3G connection. I'm waiting for a new ROM to arrive to determine if the problem is software/hardware (unless both ROM's use the same base Rom )
My old prophet had an easy accesible reset button, unfortunately I have to remove the batterycap now and I have a feeling the mechanisme won't hold for 2 years if I open it every day a couple times.

FWIW, my device is currently sent in for service, I'll report back with the outcome when I eventually get a device back..

Isn't it just brilliant, after a week of "service", they tell me freely translated: "No problem found. Device reset. (Might it be the standby mode from which the device wakes up by pressing the power button?)"
Of course they did not bother to call me to ask for further clarification... Now I'll have to wait until it arrives back at the shop where I sent it in so I can go and send it back..
Oh the joy!

Same freeze problem
Hi guys
I' have same freeze probleme on my niki, i made hard reset without solving nothing.Only solution remove battery and restart.
In my case it always happens while system is in stand by so my phone goes offline and i havent any advice.
Last mornig after a night recharge a foud my niki completely uncharged with red led.I have ordered a new battery hoping the problem may be in my battery.

I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't wake up when I pressed the powerbutton.
Last thursday I flashed my device with Tom Codon's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
I haven't got the problem since

I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.

SMYKUL said:
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I've just hard reset mine .... now seems stable ... before it was freezing every time I tried to use it.
So now I have no SD installed + no apps.
Before
SD with very few apps
Sprite backup HTC version
Informant previuos version
Flex Mail 2007
Copilot 6
Fsecure from Tmobile customisation
So I am thinking SD compatability may have been my issue ... I only had a 2GB Sandisk Premier. Will try a 1GB later

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[...] until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card.
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That's interesting... I am also using a (4gb) micro sd card. Maybe this really is the reason for the freezes. hard resets (2 till now) didn't solve the problem for me and I have not tried flashing a new rom yet. so this goes well with the possibility of a misbehaving driver thing.

As I wrote I only had freeze up's during browsing the www. After reading that there might be a sd-card driver problem I changed all IE temp directories back from the storage card to the device itself and I now can browse uninterrupted. So it seems that there is a slight driver issue.
Ralph

Changing SD card semed to fix things for me ..... at least for th last few days.
Before I swapped card I had constant problems

3 problemes with my Athena, please help :=)

Hello guys,
my 1st problem, the connection to the internet by wifi is always interupted every minutes and I need to reset the wifi connection. It's weird because I've got a strenght signal. It's not comming from my PC because I don't have this problem on my Eten M700.
My 2nd problem, sometimes when I get access to the microdrive, the device just gets stuck and I have to reset.
Third problem, pictures taken with the device have a green or purple tint on dark parts of the shot. Just take a look at the folowing picture.
Thanks a lot for the help ! Long live to this wonderfull forum !
Edit: Yesterday I put the great PK3.0 ROM in my device, but it didn't solve any of the problemes. Though I still enjoy the new rom and really admire the work behind it !

I solved the wifi problem. In Settings->Wireless LAN->Power Mode, I checked the "auto turn off WLAN if not connected" and put it to the maximum value wich is "5" (may be changed in the registry perhalps). Also put the PowerSaveMode to Best Performance (though changing only this parameter didn't help before).
For the microdrive access probleme, I figured out I have to wait at least 30 seconds before accessing the system again. Do some people already faced this issue ?
I could't figure out anything for the pictures problem. Also I know we can't rely on a new version of coolcamera, they stated yesterday on their forum they would not support Athena because of the Imageon chip.

luthor_70 said:
For the microdrive access probleme, I figured out I have to wait at least 30 seconds before accessing the system again. Do some people already faced this issue ?
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Not for me. You may want to send it back.

luthor_70 said:
For the microdrive access probleme, I figured out I have to wait at least 30 seconds before accessing the system again. Do some people already faced this issue ?
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My MD seems to hang sometimes too I reformat it yesterday, so I'll try to wait 30sec next time... I'd really like an upgrade with a flash disk !

Hello EmpereurZorg,
I'm from France too living in Nice (we don't have the right to speak another language here until we do a translation lol). Let me know if it hapens again. What about the color of your pictures ? Does it do the same like mines ?

Camera Issues On HD2

Hello Everyone,
I made a search, but I could find only one reference to something similar to me...
I keep having the message "Camera Initialisation Error..." (in french, that is), whenever I try to use the camera after a long time...
To correct this, one thing that work but that is hassle is to power on the phone, take out the SD card, that turn on again, and there it works... miracle. Then I can put back the SD card, and it keeps working... till soemthing happen (I don't know what, and why) and it all starts again "Camera Initialisation Error...".
Has any of you got this?
It does not matter where I tell the camera to save the picture.
I did the camera and SD card hotfixes.
It does not look like hardware
So, any clue?
Thanks in advance...

I have the exact same problem. My camera works again with power on and off. annoying!

Leephi said:
I have the exact same problem. My camera works again with power on and off. annoying!
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same here. nobody knows why it can be?

vdelab said:
Hello Everyone,
I made a search, but I could find only one reference to something similar to me...
I keep having the message "Camera Initialisation Error..." (in french, that is), whenever I try to use the camera after a long time...
To correct this, one thing that work but that is hassle is to power on the phone, take out the SD card, that turn on again, and there it works... miracle. Then I can put back the SD card, and it keeps working... till soemthing happen (I don't know what, and why) and it all starts again "Camera Initialisation Error...".
Has any of you got this?
It does not matter where I tell the camera to save the picture.
I did the camera and SD card hotfixes.
It does not look like hardware
So, any clue?
Thanks in advance...
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I may have been the person who posted the original post that you saw, and to be honest you should have just added to that instead of opening a new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609366
Anyway, no one seems to know what the problem is, but yes doing a simple restart addresses it. Could be a bit embarrassing though LOL...hold on a minute...its reloading...on the Windows splash screen...wont be long...keep smiling...!
Have any of you applied any registry tweaks either manually or via BSB Tweaks? I noticed the issue happening after applying the tweaks, but when reverting the settings back the issue still cropped up anyway.
A mystery me thinks.

Well, im in here too, i had this issue with thee official german ROM 1.48 too, but not with the 1.43 T-Mobile ROM i had before 1.48. Now im on 1.61, but the error was still there after setting up and tweaking my device.
After a hard reset the camera worked, every single time, so it must have something to do with the things i changed on my device. So i made my way through everything i installed/tweaked and reversed it.
To get to my point: The error disappeared after my last action: Uninstalling Skype Mobile and changing the picture saving location in the camera options from SD card to main memory. 2 days later...no error. I have set it back to SD card meanwhile and another day without the message passed. So i think its gone, but im not completely sure why. Maybe thats helpful for you, good luck!

Hello,
sorry about doubling the thread....
If some moderator pass by, please, you can append this thread to the one quoted by Morpheus.
Anayway, I did the check in the registry, so let's see what it give.
Notice that in my case, a soft reset wasn't enough. I really had to do the sd card removal thing...
Also, I did use swype before (but I uninstalled it a whuile ago due to other freeze issues and to the landscape bug as well). Actually, I miss it as I think it was a great SIP. Now I use shapewriter, to try... I don't know if it could lead to the same camera problem....
Anyway, I'll try to re-initialize the camera and see how long it lasts with the change I made in the registry. Only in P2 I had a different entry... instead of 48 I had 20000 -ish.... weird...
Thanks
Vdl

dont we have a chance to reinstall just the device.exe or camera drivers?.
thank u

i get this error when i use swype, everything works until i use the swype then the cam wont work... i really like the swype so i hope someone finds a solution

i've gotten this pop up...but it only happened after i tried to install qik on my phone...