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I'm planning on purchasing a Hermes next month and wondering if its worth getting the unlimitted data plan.
I"m a college student so no need for emediate connection to email or anythign business wise, basicly internet leisure.
So whats your advice, is it worth being connected 24/7? Will the battery hold? My brother has the nokia N80 in the middle east and he tells me that phone doesn't last half a day with 3g on, how about the hermes?
Also a main motivation for 3g for me is the video calling, but i don't know much about that, is it a device to device connection or does cingular need to set something up for it to work?(even if it is device to device, none of my friends have 3g so i see its 40 bucks to waste.) Any thoughts would be good
thanks
I am currently on Cingular with the TyTn and get a UMTS singal in my area about half the time I use it. I have the internet connection registry dealy set to always on, and i don't have any trouble with the battery.
Also a main motivation for 3g for me is the video calling, but i don't know much about that, is it a device to device connection or does cingular need to set something up for it to work?
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I was curious about this also.
i see its 40 bucks to waste.
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Nope. Don't let try to tell you that you need the PDA unlimited plan just get the
$19.99 MEdia Max 200
200 Messages $0.05/add'l (this includes text and mms)
Unlimited data
Unlimited cingular video
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$19.99 MEdia Max 200
200 Messages $0.05/add'l (this includes text and mms)
Unlimited data
Unlimited cingular video
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wow, i never new such a data plan existed. I go well over 200 msgs a month so i htink i'm gonna do that plus th e$9.99 1000 texts,
Nope then you want the Media Max 1000
$29.99 MEdia Max 1000
1000 Messages $0.03/add'l (txt & mms)
Unlimited Data
Unlimited Cingular video
https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase
EVEN BETTER!!!
how come i never saw these before? i've been with cingular over 2 years now and i thought all they had was the unlimited data for 39.99 and the media works for 19.99 which only included 5mb. I used to have media works with my jam and i kept going over 5 MB and the messages allowed and i was hitting $60 to $80 in overages.
Thanks again, will definately subscribe to this plan in the next 3 days and use it with my wizard till i get the TyTn some time next month
Thanks again!
The Cingular messaging/data bundles are new for Q3 2006.
Hello All,
I am visiting Chicago and using my Tytn. The device rocks like no other. King of the kings basically when it comes to UMTS in Chicago. It is registering a speed of 2.04 mbps when I test the connection.
Gilbert
I can't wait till i get a hold of one!!
About the data plans, I just subscribed to the MEdia Max 1000 for $29.99 but whats the between that and Unlimited Data Access for PDA which is $39.99? When i click on it the explanation pop is blank.
I'm not complaining that MEdia Max 1000 is cheaper but are they gonna try to shaft me by saying I have a PDA and start billing me for KiloBytes? Or with the media net can i only access MEdia Net sites?
Where do you all get the Tytn? On ebay they are $800!!!
I live in UMTS territory so I would love to have one here.
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@nickcerda:
So many questions.... so little time.....
Ok, you are accessing UMTS on Cingular with a standard SIM? If so this is good news because our rep was feeding me a line that a new "3G SIM" would be required to access UMTS.
I take it wap.cingular and/or isp.cingular are visible and can be connected to over UMTS correct? If so, which one are you using?
No, I am not using UMTS yet, just fantasizing.
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Ok, you are accessing UMTS on Cingular with a standard SIM? If so this is good news because our rep was feeding me a line that a new "3G SIM" would be required to access UMTS.
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Yes, you need the new 3G sim to access 3G, But the sim is free. Just go to any cingular store and tell them u need the 3g sim and they'll give it to and it takes about 5 min for it to activate.
It goes like this. wap.cingualr (media net) uses some form of compression and there is some problem with vpn's or something. isp.cingular (data connect or pda plan) loses the compression, and the vpn problem. I believe the problem comes in with the type of IP they assign. Technically you should be on PDA plan with a PDA, however my current phone according to Cingular is the 8125, and i still have the media net plan. in fact I bought my 8125 directly from Cingular. But I guess to answer your question as long as you don't use the isp.cingular you'll be fine. And for the record I have used both the compression does nothing at all to speed.
agreed, compression is worthless but....
did you get a 3G SIM from Cingular to run in your TyTN?
nickcerda: thanks for that info. so browsing sites like this isn't gonna be charged per kb? i just don't want them to be charging me when i've got the media max 1000
sleuth255: i don't have a TyTN but i do have the 3G simcard, i just went into a cingular shop and asked them for it and was out of there in 5 min.
@fone_fanatic:
I'll go try that tomorrow. If they cough one up then I'll push buy it now on a tytn..
push that button one more time for me
Actually, I gotta find out if it has A2DP first. TCPMP -> my iPAQ stereo headset is one of the most used apps on my 8125. I can't go back to wired... especially given the TyTN's non-standard connector...
With UMTS shoutcast should fly! :drool:
Yes I do have a 3g sim card. And like I said as long as you use the wap.cingular apn you will not be charged per kilobyte.
@nickcerda:
Tks for the info! My account can use wap or isp so it isn't an issue. I'm off to locate a 3G sim.
One more quick question (I already owe you a beer btw)
If you have a registry editor could you check to see if the following keys exist on your TyTN:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP
and
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway
Hi, I've just purchased a Tmobile Wing, and I've been browsing around on these forums, and I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers to. I'm pretty new so please be patient .
1. Wifi - Through free wifi spots, are there any charges through T-mobile for using internet, using IM through clients such as IM+ and palringo, etc. Basically, are there any fees or charges attached to through accessing the internet through free wifi. Does a data plan, or any other plan have to be purchased to do this? Also, what is GPRS in relation to wifi?
2. What is a Hard/Soft-SPL?
3. More to follow
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
anyone? ha ha
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Hi, I've just purchased a Tmobile Wing, and I've been browsing around on these forums, and I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers to. I'm pretty new so please be patient .
1. Wifi - Through free wifi spots, are there any charges through T-mobile for using internet, using IM through clients such as IM+ and palringo, etc. Basically, are there any fees or charges attached to through accessing the internet through free wifi. Does a data plan, or any other plan have to be purchased to do this? Also, what is GPRS in relation to wifi?
2. What is a Hard/Soft-SPL?
3. More to follow
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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wifi is free of charge to anything only hotspots are not i rarely use wifi anyways i have the total internet package and its worth it when im at work (they block everything but this site for some reason)
THIS SHOULD BE ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT HARD SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&highlight=HARD+SPL
SORRY FOR THE CAPS IM AT WORK SO I NEED EM ON
Forsure. Thanks a lot ilikepu. I just wasn't sure, cause I read so many posts regarding proxy settings, GRPS, etc. I got so confused, and am now still even confused about internet on the Wing and it's price. Is it just me, or does no one have as much of an abundance of free wifi spots as where I am (Berkeley, CA). Yeah, so if anyone could help me out a bit and give me some info on proxy settings and shifting from GRPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373572&highlight=proxy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369392&highlight=proxy
Confused
Thanks in advance!
From My Understanding, Is That They All Have The The 5.99 Data Plan For That To Work. Cant Try It Due To Me Cleaning The Phone In The Washing Machine. (yea Not Really My Fault)
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Hey guys, I finally got my Blackstone wednesday and have been messing with it since then. I am currently out of town but when i get back, I plan on opening a T-mobile contract to run the phone on. I chose them, because, A) i can get a good deal on a contract with MYFAVES, INTERNET, HOTSPOTS, and TEXTS, and since i am not a big talker, the MYFAVES would work for me and B) AT&T is just too [email protected] expensive for me. My questions is, for those who are using the HTC TOUCH HD on T-mobile, of course besides the lack of 3G like everyone is stating, how is the internet browser. A friend of mine runs his HD on AT&T, but I cannot afford a big plan, without a MyFaves type option. Post up experiences only if you are running the HD on T-Mobile. Thanks
I'm currently using the HD on T-Mobile. I like it. No US 3G means doesn't matter if its AT&T or T-Mobile, you can't get 3G for either. I running off of T-Zones and the speeds are barable. I don't do heavy surfing when I'm outside of WiFi but I do push my e-mails and occasionally check up on my bookmarks. So far, so good.
Oh and before you sign up, check up www.freelancersunion.org .... if your a member you get a 10% everyone and nice perks on phones... like oh lets say 140 for G1 or free blackberrys... Good luck!
Just remember your already going to be stuck on edge.. And T-Mobiles edge speeds are much slower than AT&T's.
Thanks alot guys for the input. I really do not do much video streaming but do use the internet for email and occasionally checking and replying to forums. If i get the T-ZONES which would allow me to use WIFI im sure i can catch a signal somewhere. I just want to keep this bumped for more input
I generally get speeds of around 150Kb with EDGE and browsing works fine. Streaming YouTube automatically adjusts the image size depending on the bandwidth. I get full screen with WiFi and about 1/2 with EDGE. I occasionally get an "insufficent bandwidth" message on EDGE, but that's rare. It would be nice to have 3G, but T-Mobile is really taking their time putting out a decent PPC phone and 3G is only in some large cities so far. By the time they put out a device like the Touch HD and install 3G in my city, maybe I'll buy another phone, but for now I'm really happy with it.
I have been using mine onf T-Mobile for a while now. No complaints what so ever. Once you choose Touch HD to use in the US. You have lost the option of 3G anywayz. So why think of ATT and its huge pice plans. I am not entirely sure about ATT EDGE being faster than T-Mobile. But I am pretty happy with my EDGE speeds on T-Mo. Browsing is fast enough, I can even watch YouTube vdos through edge.
You always have WiFi which is much faster than 3G. I am using mine with Cooked ROMs from here and I am enjoyin every bit of it with no regret.
for the ones that got TMobile and the HD. what internet plan do you have?
what are the settings on the phone?
are your guys MMS fast?
i dont get mine for a couple days.. but maybe cuz i haven't set up any internet connection?
when you called tmobile did you just ask for tzones?
thanks for the help..
T-Mobile on Touch HD
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for the ones that got TMobile and the HD. what internet plan do you have?
what are the settings on the phone?
are your guys MMS fast?
i dont get mine for a couple days.. but maybe cuz i haven't set up any internet connection?
when you called tmobile did you just ask for tzones?
thanks for the help..
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Well, as far as the settings go, I just stuck my T-Mobile Sim and it automatically detected it and configured everything including MMS
The speeds arent that bad, you have to remember that most people view only a dozen or so sites regularly that's the whole idea behind cashing pages.
But even besides that the speeds are not that bad. Opera is really good at rendering pages. I thought I would not be able to deal with it coming off the G1 but I barely notice to be hones with you.
I can do a screenie of my t-mobile setting for my g1 there were a bunch of Access points that I didn't know exsisted. there are like a dozen or so, you can try to configure those manually to see if you can purge faster speeds and report back.
I don't have it with me right now, but if yo PM me I'd be more than happy to do so
I hope this helps.
Peace!
your settings should automatically be detected but the default address is usually wap.voicestream.xxxx . all I did was let it auto detect and change both tmobile data and tmobile mms to epc.tmobile.com I heard the epc is faster than the wap. try that.
No problems in the USA
I have been with TMo in the USA for 4 years and have nothing but good things to say. Great coverage (I am an airline pilot and the means a lot!) and great plans. My previous phone was the JasJar (HTC Universal) and it was stuck with GPRS only so Edge has been a nice, surprising speed boost that is very acceptable for browsing, Google Maps etc. While it is true that Edge won't let me stream the max quality videos from YouTube, I don't think I am missing much by not having 3G. Using my WiFi connection at home is only a substantial benefit when I want to download a large file, which I almost never do.
The HD and Tmo have a great working realationship.
Regards,
Gordo
i mean.. what are the tzone settings.. and i ask for tzone.. pay 5.99 or whatever.. and i can do youtube? opera? weather? and everything?
is that possible?
how?
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i mean.. what are the tzone settings.. and i ask for tzone.. pay 5.99 or whatever.. and i can do youtube? opera? weather? and everything?
is that possible?
how?
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I'm looking for this as well. I have a download that I used for my Kaiser. Is this the same one?
i dont know.. this is my 1st WinMo phone.. no one gives an exact answer =/.. does anyone know?
I'm finding T-mo with their data plan (2G) quite bearable: I don't even try streaming media, it would be pure frustration, but is fine with wifi (faster than 3G anyway).
Search/Google "T-mobile T-zones youtube and internet access". You'll find the default settings will allow you to access only T-mo's T-zones content. There have been some port configuration hacks posted over the last couple of years, but T-mo may have plugged those up by now.
I look at it this way.... I just spent, what $750 on a phone, another $19.00 for the data plan isn't going to make a damned bit of difference. If you got yours cheaper, consider the difference as free data for a while.
Cheeze[iT] said:
your settings should automatically be detected but the default address is usually wap.voicestream.xxxx . all I did was let it auto detect and change both tmobile data and tmobile mms to epc.tmobile.com I heard the epc is faster than the wap. try that.
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I have been using TMobile for years without any problems and if you have problems they have great Tech support. BTW ' epc ' did not work on my HD
for a data connection.
Awesome thanks guys for your replies. I order my phone and plan for T-mobile today thru Telesales with a major discount i got. Will have it overnighted to me and should hopefully have my phone and plan by tuesday.....so that means that the BLACKSTONE should be running then....majorly excited!!!!
I just got my new hd2 yesterday and have just discovered there is no wifi router app.
O2 must have blocked this app - Bas***ds.
Anyone any ideas of how i can install this feature?
do a search and you`ll find the app posted here somewhere ....
I`ll try and find it for you now....
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download here
http://bwone.com/downloadsthebowmanpackpro2.zip
Two fingers to O2..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HI Richie,
Thanks so much, do i just drag the files onto the sd card on the phone, do you know where excatly?
Cheers
copy the .cab file to your storage card and run it form file explorer.....install to device....
+1 Cheers, will give it a go.
BTW, O2 gave me a the wifi bolton FOC as well as the Unlimited net when I kicked up a fuss. How do I use their cloud WIFI service?
Hello Everyone,
Where can I get the cab files for the wifi router app for the hd2? t-mobile usa version does not have it.
Thank you,
Monnie
MonnieRock said:
Hello Everyone,
Where can I get the cab files for the wifi router app for the hd2? t-mobile usa version does not have it.
Thank you,
Monnie
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Hi,
Link is in post #2.
Thank you, That answered my question I was wondering today about too. Lame they took it out when it was a main feature I bought the phone for. Thanks for posting it.
I did this install. I have the WiFi app installed, and running. Screen says WiFiSharing running, and ready to accecpt connections. But, when I go to my PC's, neither of them see this router. They see my home router, and several of the neighbors' routers, but not on my HD2. What could I be missing?
Try to stop the wifi router apllication and start again. It happens to my sometimes.
You can try also this, for me it worked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5988689#post5988689
That link solved my problem. My default name for the router did not have a blank in it, but just changing the name of the router for some reason made it visible. Thanks for the help!
Using Wifi Router on O2 Unlimited web
Be very careful if you are gonna use the Wifi router and you're on O2 Unlimited web.
In December, when I ordered my HD2, I was told I would have the unlimited web & download and that O2 were the only UK provider to give a "Truly unlimited mobile web service."
I've have since had my Unlimited web bolt on revoked because they said I was using it too much. According to my bills, I had been using about 1GB per month. After numerous calls to O2 I found out that the service is not unlimited and a fair use policy applies (only 200MB per month allowed). Had I have know this back in December I might have chosen a different provider but now I'm stuck on the O2 contract until July 2011.
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Be very careful if you are gonna use the Wifi router and you're on O2 Unlimited web.
In December, when I ordered my HD2, I was told I would have the unlimited web & download and that O2 were the only UK provider to give a "Truly unlimited mobile web service."
I've have since had my Unlimited web bolt on revoked because they said I was using it too much. According to my bills, I had been using about 1GB per month. After numerous calls to O2 I found out that the service is not unlimited and a fair use policy applies (only 200MB per month allowed). Had I have know this back in December I might have chosen a different provider but now I'm stuck on the O2 contract until July 2011.
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Thanks for the warning. However, I have the USA T-mobile unlimited data plan. I wonder if they have the same limitation. Anyone know?
Most carriers including TMO say 5GB a month. Which is quite alot if you just use the router as a backup for when your main internet goes down or your on the road, not a good idea for torrents tho.
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I did this install. I have the WiFi app installed, and running. Screen says WiFiSharing running, and ready to accecpt connections. But, when I go to my PC's, neither of them see this router. They see my home router, and several of the neighbors' routers, but not on my HD2. What could I be missing?
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I'm having the same problem. Sometimes I can see the network and connect to it, but I have no internet still. I installed the htc wifi app on a stock tmobile US rom, to no avail. Same thing happened with the wm wifi app that is available - so I'm wondering if TMobile is blocking this somehow?
I was counting on having working wifi tethering, as I have been doing very easily with my G1, but so far no luck. This is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
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I'm having the same problem. Sometimes I can see the network and connect to it, but I have no internet still. I installed the htc wifi app on a stock tmobile US rom, to no avail. Same thing happened with the wm wifi app that is available - so I'm wondering if TMobile is blocking this somehow?
I was counting on having working wifi tethering, as I have been doing very easily with my G1, but so far no luck. This is a bit of a deal breaker for me.
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I think I saw a post somewhere saying to change your default wireless access point name on the phone, apparently it fixes it afterwards.
zdrux said:
I think I saw a post somewhere saying to change your default wireless access point name on the phone, apparently it fixes it afterwards.
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There is a wifi tether app in the omarket that works better.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/omarket/
Look for "Mobile Wi-Fi Router.
The app from omarket is just a beta (public) version of the HTC app, that's why it has "xda" in the name. They look the same, do the same thing - which, for me, is absolutely nothing, lol.
As for T-Mobile US, the limit is 10gb before they threaten to cap you. I've had them threaten me a few times, but so far, I can still download at 2MBit/second, lol. I have not heard of anyone actually getting capped yet, though, so I wouldn't worry. The way today's phones are headed, 10gb / month will be considered normal usage soon.
Back to the topic, I still ahve no luck with any of the wifi tether apps I have found - 3 that I know of, and i Have done hard resets, etc, changed names, etc. Still, my pc will see it but no internet. I can switch my SIM card to My Android G1, and tethering works right off the bat. I'm confounded.
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+1 Cheers, will give it a go.
BTW, O2 gave me a the wifi bolton FOC as well as the Unlimited net when I kicked up a fuss. How do I use their cloud WIFI service?
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register via the portal page with your phone number, look for the O2 button.
My Nexus One is being delivered tomorrow and I have a sim only contract with t-mobile to use with it.
Anyone know what settings (apn etc) are needed to make calls/texts/mms and internet, please?
Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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My Nexus One is being delivered tomorrow and I have a sim only contract with t-mobile to use with it.
Anyone know what settings (apn etc) are needed to make calls/texts/mms and internet, please?
Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Itll do it all automatically mine did been running sweet for a 2 months
Just out of curiosity what settings do people have under apn?
Using the speed test app, I can only get 300kbps down and 500 up for some reason.
Cheers,
Neil.
Yeah, did it automatically in the end, apart from mms. Sending an mms to myself fixed that.
Not tested my speeds yet as I mainly only browse using wifi.
I am getting 2M+ downlink and 1.7M+ uplink. I have web n walk plus (or what used to be) and I understand you will need that to have HSDPA speeds.
Any chance you could post your apn settings as I have the web and walk add on and don't get anywhere near those speeds in two different parts of the country.
Neil.
Im on 3 and mine didnt set up automatically, but after using CMs ROM it came on auto after that