I've gone through all the pages in the Prophet part of the forum I can't seems to find answer for the (probably) very simple questions that I have. I'm guessing that just about everyone (except me of course) knows the answers to these questions so here goes:
1. Upgrading ROM, why?
I'm guessing that the main reason to do an update is the same a running updates for a normal PC? Old problems and issues are resolved with a new rom?
2. Different versions?
Going through the forum you run across various versions; Dopod, I-mate, S200 (and some I've probably missed). Is there any page or guide that shows the differences between the various versions?
3. Phone company info?
If you update the rom, will all phone company info be lost? Can you enter the stuff that needs to be entered manually? I'd hate to do an update and then not be able to use my phone anymore.
4. Warranty?
Any idea if messing with your rom voids the warranty on the phone?
1. Upgrading ROM, why?
I'm guessing that the main reason to do an update is the same a running updates for a normal PC? Old problems and issues are resolved with a new rom?
Yes.
2. Different versions?
Going through the forum you run across various versions; Dopod, I-mate, S200 (and some I've probably missed). Is there any page or guide that shows the differences between the various versions?
Mainly due to some of the goodies attached to some of the ROM, e.g. the splash screen some of the Today's plugins.. and mostly on the Ext ROM.
3. Phone company info?
If you update the rom, will all phone company info be lost? Can you enter the stuff that needs to be entered manually? I'd hate to do an update and then not be able to use my phone anymore.
Yes. Yes. You can still use your phone if you know what you are doing.
4. Warranty?
Any idea if messing with your rom voids the warranty on the phone?
Yes, it will void your warranty in most cases.
thanks for the quick reply..
2. Different versions?
Any idea if you can see somewhere what the differences are? And does it really matter if I use the Dopod rom on my Qtek S200?
3. Phone company info?
I was suddenly wondering if you really need to enter any info at all. Isn't it enough to set Network to automatically select and the info on the SIM will take care of the rest?
Hi cobra25.
In the future I recommend you don't restrict your browsing to the Prophet part of the forum. There is a lot of interesting stuff in the general forums for everyone and then there is the WiKi.
Now to your questions:
1) Yes, it's just like updating your desktop windows and device drivers, but while a certain update may fix some issues, it may cause others.
Example: AKU2 update gives you push mail and A2DP (BT stereo) but it removes clock from taskbar and makes the date plugin 2 lines high. This really annoys some people.
2) This are versions from different brands. Ordinarily you can only upgrade to the same brand you bought the phone under. To change brand you need to CID unlock you phone or use a special updater that doesn't check for vendor ID. All this info can be found in the WiKi.
Unfortunately, I don't think there is a comparison page for Prophet (someone posted a doc file for the Universal a while back). I do remember a couple of month ago someone on this forum written a comparison after flashing several different ROMs.
3) Settings for MMS and internet (I assume that's what you meant, since everything else is stored on the SIM) will be lost unless the update was issued by your phone company (like Orange or O2), but it is not difficult to recover. You can set it up manually (your phone company is obligated to provide the setting on their site or through customer support), or you can unlock the extended ROM (simple registry tweak) and save the settings cab file to the PC.
4) If you use an official update from the OEM or the phone company, it shouldn't void the warranty. However it is best to check with who ever sold you the device on the exact policy.
Thanks for the answers. The weekend is just around the corner so I'll take your advice and take a look in the general forum.
As for point 3:
Can you believe that I haven't even looked at MMS & Internet yet. I've got my normal PC for internet. Currently using it to play games, use the calendar, contact and mainly the normal phone.
Next thing I'm going to take a look at is push mail, that certainly seems interesting..
Ok, well to set you off on the push mail thing:
If you have an exchange server available, it as easy as entering its info in ActiveSync on the device.
If not look up mail2web. It's a free service, but you do need to create an account.
But heed my warning:
Push mail uses a lot of GPRS traffic and as a result shortens battery life significantly.
It is not recommended if you have limited data plan or can't recharge your phone every day.
Oh and one thing I forgot to mention:
When you update the ROM all data in your device is deleted so back it up!
Have a nice weekend!
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Next thing I'm going to take a look at is push mail, that certainly seems interesting..
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Another disturb factor is SPAM. It is push mail killer.
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I'd like to upgrade my Artemis without flashing my device with some more or less experimental rom. (Especially as there also is the question of using the right language).
HTC-progs like bio settings, cube, streaming etc must be available as standalone progs too, don't they?
So my set of questions goes like this:
1. where to get those progs?
2. do they slower the device more than the integated tool in some rom?
3. one reason not to flash at first was hardly no information about 'CID'. Can anyone provide? As this question arose in different places but got no real response (or didn't I get it as a newby?), I dare to ask myself.
Could someone please help me?
I even was about to get some spd.software, but obviously all these progs can do, can be obtaine 'for free', only by the cost of investing time and interest. I'm willing to do so, so let me hear from you...
thx
*THIS "PROJECT" IS CLOSED ON MY PART!*
If you wish to still follow this, please visit the below link, I believe alquimista and some other folks are still giving this a try.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-sch-i760/108112-sch-i760-rom-r-d.html
Samsung SCH-i760 ROM
**UPDATE 03/10/08**
I have found some useful tools to help me accomplish this, but still have some things left to find. Any help would be awesome, first I need a way to find what I can remove (useless files that take up space) and most importantly where I should to start to make this work. I'm pretty sure the forums will be closed later today, so if you could email if your able to assist me I would appreciate it!
What do you think?
Hey everybody, I've been browsing this forum numerous times in the past couple of weeks looking to customize my i760 and haven't found much on it for upgrading it's performance. It seems that not many users have this phone, so I'm thinking of creating a ROM for this device.
It will probably take me some time, being this will be my first time creating anything for a PPC.
I'm asking for some help for this:
a) From fellow i760 users to get some input on what might be the best items for the ROM.
b) Also from advanced users on the best way to approach this creation.
All help will be very much appreciated.
I'd like to have some contribution to this forum, seeing how my phone has been completely customized from developers on this site. Big Thanks to all of you out there whos software I am using! You all have done a great job, I appreciate your time and hard work for it.
What are your all's thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
Any question you can email me @ jtisr241 @ aim dot com.
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Samsung SCH-i760 ROM
What do you think?
Hey everybody, I've been browsing this forum numerous times in the past couple of weeks looking to customize my i760 and haven't found much on it for upgrading it's performance. It seems that not many users have this phone, so I'm thinking of creating a ROM for this device.
It will probably take me some time, being this will be my first time creating anything for a PPC.
I'm asking for some help for this:
a) From fellow i760 users to get some input on what might be the best items for the ROM.
b) Also from advanced users on the best way to approach this creation.
All help will be very much appreciated.
I'd like to have some contribution to this forum, seeing how my phone has been completely customized from developers on this site. Big Thanks to all of you out there whos software I am using! You all have done a great job, I appreciate your time and hard work for it.
What are your all's thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance.
Any question you can email me @ jtisr241 @ aim dot com.
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I had the i760. I got rid of it because of the lack or roms.
And Your are right there are no roms out there, its not because people dont have it, but its something with the way Samsung makes their roms. It's not as flexible with as the HTC devices.
Thanks for the info, I still have a ton of research to do before I look into the development, I'll keep that in mind hopefully I can find a way around it.
hey help for all phones would be cool
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hey help for all phones would be cool
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I'm not sure what compatibility the ROM will have, another thing I'm learning.
I would love to see a rom that does not include the d-day and all the get it now and vzw branded software there under WM6.1 with the threaded MMS of 6.1 and the Palm threaded SMS. But, that is just a pipe dream, so I will settle for just a software update.
Thank you for your effort sir.
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I would love to see a rom that does not include the d-day and all the get it now and vzw branded software there under WM6.1 with the threaded MMS of 6.1 and the Palm threaded SMS. But, that is just a pipe dream, so I will settle for just a software update.
Thank you for your effort sir.
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Any idea on when the update wil be available? Hopefully I can incorporate this with the new files on the update.
i have the i760 and yeah I think this would be a good thing but samsung just does stuff differently with ROMs
here to help
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i have the i760 and yeah I think this would be a good thing but samsung just does stuff differently with ROMs
here to help
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Thanks, that's what I hear, hopefully once I figure out all the odds and ends to ROM's I can better understand how this is configured.
I second the vote for a rom that does not have the "extra" garbage including that useless picsel browser thing. An end button deactivator (comes in handy to "accidentally" hang up on the wife, but most of the time it's a pain in the ass), a built-in S2U2-like app, built-in touchscreen inteface (ifonz-like I guess). Overclocking.
Overall better memory use, power use, touchscreen use, end deactivator (tried AE, it hated my i760!!)
Update: Oh you know what I'd really like to see - one touch access to contacts, then particular category. The thing I miss most from my cell phone is pressing one button which calls up MY contact list, not the thousands of contact in Outlook. So to recap press a soft key, get the personal contacts list category.
what is the good word?
yea there's def. not a ton of support for the i760; but i've heard that there will be an update to wm6.1 for it so that should satisfy alot of us owners if its true
I hope theres a 6.1 Rom!!
I hear there is and Verizon will have it for download for the i760 on there web site when they finish there part of it.
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I hear there is and Verizon will have it for download for the i760 on there web site when they finish there part of it.
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Do you know when it will be completed?
760 for High speed Internet Bluetooth connection
Hey does anyone have any luck using the 760 as a celluar modem? I am using PDANet to open the profile and I connect without issue but I can only stay connected for a very short time usually less then one minute.
I have also been all over this site and I am looking for a ROM and there does not seem to be much of anything available for this device. Has anyone had any success with the ROM or any update that would let me use this device reliably with my laptop. I am not sure if it is Verizon or a setting on the phone but it is killing me.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Todd
I just ordered a i760 so i can help.
i say no iphone interface, its not that good i dont see why people want to copy it.
Alright, it seems there won't be an update anytime soon from Verizon, so I'll try to get something accomplished here, it seems all I do is work sometimes. Anyways, I'm still messing with apps and plugins to see what I want to build here. As soon as I can figure which I want I'll post the news.
Any suggestions on what should be included?
**SEE FIRST POST**
i760 Rom Dump
@ TheChampJT
I've been watching this thread for a bit now. At the same time I have been digging deep into my i760.
I was finally able to use itsutils (from here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html ) to run the following commands without errors:
pdocread
pmemmap
pmemdump 0x80000000 0x02000000 rom.nb
That last one gave me a 32Mb file obviously titled "rom.nb". I was feeling all uber l33t until I realized I have no clue what to do now. I am trying to decompile the file I dumped with the perl script that Willem (aka itsme) posted on his RAPI tools site. I am trying to compile the perl script in WinXP, because that's the OS I dumped the rom.nb file with. Should I boot into linux (fedora 8 or Backtrack3beta is all I got) to run the perl script? I haven't tried much of anything with it yet because I just dumped the rom.nb file late last night. However, any advice would be much appreciated.
I think my i760 is CID unlocked, because the first time I tried to run pdocread I got an error that said "Have you CID or application unlocked your device?". When I was able to run pdocread, I assumed I had somehow CID unlocked my device. But I have no way to tell for sure whether its CID unlocked or not. Its not like there's a popup window on the i760 that says "You've CID unlocked you device!!" So that's my second question, how do I know if I CID unlocked my device?
I've been hacking away at this for a solid 12days now Well, more like a month or so. I always peek into my new toy's registry as soon as I get it and make a few changes here and there to see what happens. I've run the Windows Mobile Security Configuration Tool and set my profile's security to "off". I made some changes to the reg entries under the policies entry. I've also done the whole **33284 then set to DM then reboot and set data connection to Modem Through USB, connected my i760 and installed the drivers for the Samsung modem in that mode (they are different from the MCCI drivers and modem set up). As you can probably tell, I operate on a "try a small hack, then see what happens, repeat" basis.
So that's where I'm at right now. Probably TMI for you, or anyone else reading this, but I am trying to put out as much info/knowledge as I can.
Obviously I am willing to help get a working, easy to use, cooked rom. Let me know if you want any of the files I have pulled off my device or any of the tools or dll's that I have found on the web, or any of the print outs I got from the itsutils cmd line tools.
Ta Then,
Alqui
You can PM me here at XDA or over at PDAPhoneHome, that is unless you think I'm a total ****tard, then don't PM me anywhere.
T9 for the front.
Hi there:
I am new to Mobile Phone upgrading, so please be patient if some questions seem to be "lame".
I have just obtained an O2 Orbit, (Artemis), for one of my boys. It is in it's original, purchased, state; WM5, etc.
I have been informed that there is an upgrade for the Windows Mobile that will change the O/S to WM 6 or 6.1. Is this true and if so where can this be obtained? Is it an easy task to upgrade?
The next question is slightly more adventurous, I have been told that the iPhone "front end" is available for this phone. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, how can this be obtained and is this a simple transition?
Thanks in advance for anyone that can spare the time to answer these queries.
The O/S upgrades you refer to are available in software downloads called ROMs. A ROM is basically Windows along with a suite of applications that the maker of the ROM has chosen to include with it. For example, the current ROM on your Orbit contains WM 5, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, etc etc... But someone making their own ROM may decide not to include Windows Media Player and add a different music player instead.
So basically, go through the Artemis forums looking for threads about ROMs. the best ones are the "Touch" and "Vanilla" series of ROMs by Meschle. Sadly he has left the forums but his ROMs can still be found.
Once you have downloaded a ROM, follow the instructions that will probably come with it, or can easily be found on here. Basically it's a 2 step process. You run one file which will remove the SIM lock (you may see the term USPL associated with this). and then another which will install the new ROM.
Just remember though, this will wipe your memory in the process, so make sure you've backed up anything you had on there that you want to keep.
As for the Iphone thing, it's not a complete front end, just several apps designed to make certain functions appear like the Iphone. Although I tried this and it seemed really buggy so I wouldn't recommend
Thanks for the help
WOW:
Thanks for the speedy response and the info'.
I didn't expect a response for days; if at all.
Your info will be acted on ASAP and I will let you know what happens.
Thanks again
Brian
Hi Gaz:
Thanks a lot. I downloaded your recomended ROM's and I have updated the Orbit. It was just as easy as you said. My son is using the phone and finds it infinitely easier to use than his last phone. Once again; thanks for your help from me and my son.
I wonder, do you have knowledge of the Orbit 2 ROM's? I realy would like to alter my O2 Orbit 2 and install the HTC ROM's. This uses TOM TOM and I have used this fro years; I don't like the O2 supplied CoPilot.
I have asked for help on the Orbit 2 forums but I still cannot find the necessary ROM's.
Hopefully
Brian
Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.
Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!
I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good
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How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful
Just had my HTC Touch 3G on the UK orange network for a few days and have been trying to set it up for my personal tastes etc...
The Orange UNIQUE function, is there a way to just have WiFi on or off, not the hybrid thing that orange seem to want you to use. On my previous HTC phone , a Titan, I just stopped GPRS connectivity and used WiFi but with the UNIQUE setup it doesn't seem possible to do this..
The contacts list, is there anyway to show the list with first name FIRST... I have tried to find a option in the setup menus but have not managed it yet..
Most if my contacts are on first name terms.. I know to look for Joe, Fred or Sally but trying to remember the last name or if I just saved as Joe @Garage etc is a pain for me...
Strange but if I view a individual contact, it appears in the correct order, First name first, last name last etc...
Any thoughts, help etc would be appreciated on a otherwise (so far anyway !) very good device..
Thanks Phil-w
The unique thing is bobbins, I contacted orange about it and the lady in customer services basically admitted that it meant I wouldn't be able to use wifi for normal data connections! So I took the plunge and flashed it to standard HTC ROM, all is well now! I would recommend you do the same!
Yeah as jmrenshaw said just flash your phone with htc rom.Those operator roms are blocking many things on the phone.Good luck.
Where can I get the standard ROM from HTC
Hi everyone,
I'm having a nightmare of a time with Orange's changes to the phone. I want to have the phone as it would be if I bought it offline. Please help me with this.
I assume I need to flash the ROM to the standard ROM but where do I get a hold of this and how do I flash the ROM? And would I be able to get back to Orange's setup in case need to warranty purposes?
Any help would be appreaciated.
Ziad
First Name list
phil-w said:
The contacts list, is there anyway to show the list with first name FIRST... I have tried to find a option in the setup menus but have not managed it yet..
Most if my contacts are on first name terms.. I know to look for Joe, Fred or Sally but trying to remember the last name or if I just saved as Joe @Garage etc is a pain for me...
Thanks Phil-w
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What you can do is: put first names in "File as" field, then the contact list will display first names. "Files as" will default to last name.
jmrenshaw said:
The unique thing is bobbins, I contacted orange about it and the lady in customer services basically admitted that it meant I wouldn't be able to use wifi for normal data connections! So I took the plunge and flashed it to standard HTC ROM, all is well now! I would recommend you do the same!
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I need help. I have started a new thread here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519047 to request help to debrand and flash an Orange HTC 3G. Please help me if you can.
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I need help. I have started a new thread to request help to debrand and flash an Orange HTC 3G. Please help me if you can.
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have you tried looking at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
? All you need to know is pretty much there.
jmrenshaw said:
have you tried looking at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
? All you need to know is pretty much there.
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Yes I have seen the thread you suggest, so many thanks however, as I say in my seperate thread - it is not the "reading" of the tutorial but it is the actual carrying out of the advice because of my physical disabilities.
ziffos said:
Yes I have seen the thread you suggest, so many thanks however, as I say in my seperate thread - it is not the "reading" of the tutorial but it is the actual carrying out of the advice because of my physical disabilities.
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I've managed to do what you want to do by using one of the dumps posted on the forum here and converting that into a ROM and then flashing the phone with that ROM. Its quite straight forward but I guess you're asking if someone can do that for you. Where abouts are you based?
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I've managed to do what you want to do by using one of the dumps posted on the forum here and converting that into a ROM and then flashing the phone with that ROM. Its quite straight forward but I guess you're asking if someone can do that for you. Where abouts are you based?
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Yes thanks, I am asking if someone will do it for me - sorry if I was vague but get a bit embarrassed! I have to use my mouth to type so using a "Touch" phone is great but when it comes to more intricate and complicated tasks, I am afraid it gets too difficult. I will be happy to pay of course - postage as well as paying for the job to be done. I just want to get rid of the Orange branded software as I find their software is too "fidly" and I also find that normal access to wifi is easier for me when not using Orange's silly "Unique Manager".
I am based in the UK.
EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU
Thanks Azahidi,
Slowly going through all the cantacts entries, pity there is no GLOBAL way to change the name order. (Unless I have missed it !!)
Phil-w
ziffos said:
Yes thanks, I am asking if someone will do it for me - sorry if I was vague but get a bit embarrassed! I have to use my mouth to type so using a "Touch" phone is great but when it comes to more intricate and complicated tasks, I am afraid it gets too difficult. I will be happy to pay of course - postage as well as paying for the job to be done. I just want to get rid of the Orange branded software as I find their software is too "fidly" and I also find that normal access to wifi is easier for me when not using Orange's silly "Unique Manager".
I am based in the UK.
EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU
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Hi Ziffos,
I didn't quite understand the bit at the end 'EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU'. Does this mean that you've managed to get your phone flashed? If you have then great! If not then I might be able to do it for you. Let me know.
Any help apreciated????
Hello
I have just read all the posts here about the Unique Manager and I completely agree. It is a nightmare, Orange UK have wrecked this phone. I have just got my Mrs. a contract on this phone as I intend to set up sat nav on it for her and I have the touch HD, so off the back of your comments I am looking to flash it.
It is running V1.71 and from reading the thrads I have to revert it back to V1.41, how easy did you find it to debrand it as it appears many people have had problems and I am worried about rendering the phone useless!!!!
I have never done anything like this before but I do understand the instructions as they are very indepth, but I am worried that if any exceptions or problems present themselves I won't be able to deal with it.
How straight forward is this process?
Any help is very much appreciated.
It was a long process but worth it!
Hi there,
I've flashed my phone about 2 weeks ago now and am having a much better experience. Actually I really love the phone now so my advice would be to go for it and flash it. I didn't actually read too many of the comments, I just followed the instructions and did it. Maybe just as well as I might have been put off.
Anyway the process was very long winded as I had to take someone's raw dump and then convert that into a ROM and then flash the phone with it. Took quite a long time but I definitely feel that it was worth it. I don't know how risky it is so can't really advise you on that.
I can send you the ROM file that I did generate if you want do it. I hope it goes as smoothly as it did for me if you do decide to go ahead with it.
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Hello
I have just read all the posts here about the Unique Manager and I completely agree. It is a nightmare, Orange UK have wrecked this phone. I have just got my Mrs. a contract on this phone as I intend to set up sat nav on it for her and I have the touch HD, so off the back of your comments I am looking to flash it.
It is running V1.71 and from reading the thrads I have to revert it back to V1.41, how easy did you find it to debrand it as it appears many people have had problems and I am worried about rendering the phone useless!!!!
I have never done anything like this before but I do understand the instructions as they are very indepth, but I am worried that if any exceptions or problems present themselves I won't be able to deal with it.
How straight forward is this process?
Any help is very much appreciated.
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does the UMA ability to connect to orange network via a wifi access point then a cell tower still work
thanks
d
for the benefit of people who may be subscribed to this thread, I think I have found a fix for the orange rom using data connection instead of wifi, read on here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4517074&postcount=12
post back to that thread if it works for you!