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Cingular 8125 - what upgrades/adds to make out of the box

Hello All,
I'm a newbie here and am currently using a GSM Treo 600, but have a GSM 8125 on the way. As a message board veteran (cigars, poker, etc...) I tried my due dilligence and have been reading and searching topics for the past day. It's simply too much info (a good thing) and the relevant topics that I find have so many posts with updates that I have a hard time keeping stuff straight.
I'm looking for direction on what type of things to upgrade and what must have programs I should add to the 8125. I realize that this type of post probably appears much too often but I have truly been overwhelmed with all the information that is here. For example, I've seen many posts regarding flashing the ROM but I was unable figure out what the latest ROM version is (created by Summiter) and I'm also unsure of all the benefits of flashing the ROM.
Any assistance will be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks!!!

Re: Cingular 8125 - what upgrades/adds to make out of the bo
ky70 said:
Hello All,
I'm a newbie here and am currently using a GSM Treo 600, but have a GSM 8125 on the way. As a message board veteran (cigars, poker, etc...) I tried my due dilligence and have been reading and searching topics for the past day. It's simply too much info (a good thing) and the relevant topics that I find have so many posts with updates that I have a hard time keeping stuff straight.
I'm looking for direction on what type of things to upgrade and what must have programs I should add to the 8125. I realize that this type of post probably appears much too often but I have truly been overwhelmed with all the information that is here. For example, I've seen many posts regarding flashing the ROM but I was unable figure out what the latest ROM version is (created by Summiter) and I'm also unsure of all the benefits of flashing the ROM.
Any assistance will be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks!!!
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I just got mine 1 week ago and this is what I did to make it run nice. I say that because after one day of use on the original cingular rom it was already acting up.
Go to these links in the forums and do as they say. Summiter and these guys have done us a great service with all their work. All this is free too.
Go here first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796
down load the lokiwiz version 0.2b and use it as the directions specify. You may as well SuperCID unlock the device if you want to upgrade the rom in the next step or it won't work. Remember to SuperCID after you take the first step.
From there go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48587
Read though it to about page 3 or 4 and find the link to the ftp site. Download the program and run it following the directions.
Don't panic when it hits 98% and freezes. That is standard. It will finish up eventually and reboot the 8125.
My 8125 runs perfect and I love the tiki theme. Summiter is great at helping and many of the other users really help also. Also, if you can't hook up to your Microsoft Exchange Server with Activesync when your 8125 is connected through the usb port, disable the proxy server in your internet settings.
Have fun. This is easy to do - I am a novice and had no problems.

THANK YOU Addicus! I appreciate you taking the time to point me in the right direction.

wow me too. im a noob and just got my 8125 and noticed its acting up abit. i'll try all this later on. hopefully i wont have any trouble doing all this stuff. thank you.

Help with AT&T 8525

Hi everyone
I just purchased this phone or pda off ebay and I am going to be signing up with att. Right now I can use it because I have been given 30 day trial. I love it but I am having trouble with some aspects of it. There is so much to know. One of the problems I have had is sending email through ebay. I bougth this to do business. If i try to answer a question through my ebay messages when I push to send the reply message nothing happens. I also try to access tmobile to make a payment and when i enter password and log on it wont log on, the page just sits there. Are there tweak for this. Also on craiglist I tried to post an ad an when I went to post it I got a message that said unable to process request. Any help or suggestion fo my new phone in reagrd to tweaking it will help. I have also noticed that aol messages loads slowly on egde. Are there any tweaks for this. It can take forever. I know I have a lot to lear and this is my first smatphone and I am excited about it but I am also lost. Thanks in advance for any sugestion or help
Mike
Long Island

first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .

most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).

Thank you so much. I believe I have WM6 on my device Im not sure if it came from att or was downloaded. How would I check to see if WM6 is on my phone. If it is do I go to the next step and install Olipro v7 2.10 I guess this replaces PIE if im right. Im learning but slowly. Thank you again this is helping me tremendously

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most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).
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Thank you so much I am going to look into reading up on this menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki

F2504x4 said:
first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .
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Thank you for the great tips. I am starting to feel better. I had heard about these tweaks but did not know how to go about them. I needed to ask. Do I need to activesync my device to upload these programs. Thank you in advance for the help it truly is greatly appreciated and what is bicking your device mean. you can be sure I wont be doing anything till I understan what im doing fully.
Mike
Long Island

those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.

XtreMe_G said:
those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.
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I will definitly take your advice on that and stay clar of that.

Another great tool to use to learn, is to click the "New Posts" button at the top, and read posts that related to the (8525) Hermes forums, even if you do not understand just what they are discussing, in time you will pick up a lot of a useful info.
This is what i do several times a week in the evenings.

Immersed in Information (and drowning!)

Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.

Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!

I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good

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How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful

Orange TOUCH 3 G. A few issues... Comments please.

Just had my HTC Touch 3G on the UK orange network for a few days and have been trying to set it up for my personal tastes etc...
The Orange UNIQUE function, is there a way to just have WiFi on or off, not the hybrid thing that orange seem to want you to use. On my previous HTC phone , a Titan, I just stopped GPRS connectivity and used WiFi but with the UNIQUE setup it doesn't seem possible to do this..
The contacts list, is there anyway to show the list with first name FIRST... I have tried to find a option in the setup menus but have not managed it yet..
Most if my contacts are on first name terms.. I know to look for Joe, Fred or Sally but trying to remember the last name or if I just saved as Joe @Garage etc is a pain for me...
Strange but if I view a individual contact, it appears in the correct order, First name first, last name last etc...
Any thoughts, help etc would be appreciated on a otherwise (so far anyway !) very good device..
Thanks Phil-w

The unique thing is bobbins, I contacted orange about it and the lady in customer services basically admitted that it meant I wouldn't be able to use wifi for normal data connections! So I took the plunge and flashed it to standard HTC ROM, all is well now! I would recommend you do the same!

Yeah as jmrenshaw said just flash your phone with htc rom.Those operator roms are blocking many things on the phone.Good luck.

Where can I get the standard ROM from HTC
Hi everyone,
I'm having a nightmare of a time with Orange's changes to the phone. I want to have the phone as it would be if I bought it offline. Please help me with this.
I assume I need to flash the ROM to the standard ROM but where do I get a hold of this and how do I flash the ROM? And would I be able to get back to Orange's setup in case need to warranty purposes?
Any help would be appreaciated.
Ziad

First Name list
phil-w said:
The contacts list, is there anyway to show the list with first name FIRST... I have tried to find a option in the setup menus but have not managed it yet..
Most if my contacts are on first name terms.. I know to look for Joe, Fred or Sally but trying to remember the last name or if I just saved as Joe @Garage etc is a pain for me...
Thanks Phil-w
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What you can do is: put first names in "File as" field, then the contact list will display first names. "Files as" will default to last name.

jmrenshaw said:
The unique thing is bobbins, I contacted orange about it and the lady in customer services basically admitted that it meant I wouldn't be able to use wifi for normal data connections! So I took the plunge and flashed it to standard HTC ROM, all is well now! I would recommend you do the same!
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I need help. I have started a new thread here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519047 to request help to debrand and flash an Orange HTC 3G. Please help me if you can.

ziffos said:
I need help. I have started a new thread to request help to debrand and flash an Orange HTC 3G. Please help me if you can.
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have you tried looking at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
? All you need to know is pretty much there.

jmrenshaw said:
have you tried looking at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
? All you need to know is pretty much there.
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Yes I have seen the thread you suggest, so many thanks however, as I say in my seperate thread - it is not the "reading" of the tutorial but it is the actual carrying out of the advice because of my physical disabilities.

ziffos said:
Yes I have seen the thread you suggest, so many thanks however, as I say in my seperate thread - it is not the "reading" of the tutorial but it is the actual carrying out of the advice because of my physical disabilities.
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I've managed to do what you want to do by using one of the dumps posted on the forum here and converting that into a ROM and then flashing the phone with that ROM. Its quite straight forward but I guess you're asking if someone can do that for you. Where abouts are you based?

ziadmannan said:
I've managed to do what you want to do by using one of the dumps posted on the forum here and converting that into a ROM and then flashing the phone with that ROM. Its quite straight forward but I guess you're asking if someone can do that for you. Where abouts are you based?
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Yes thanks, I am asking if someone will do it for me - sorry if I was vague but get a bit embarrassed! I have to use my mouth to type so using a "Touch" phone is great but when it comes to more intricate and complicated tasks, I am afraid it gets too difficult. I will be happy to pay of course - postage as well as paying for the job to be done. I just want to get rid of the Orange branded software as I find their software is too "fidly" and I also find that normal access to wifi is easier for me when not using Orange's silly "Unique Manager".
I am based in the UK.
EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU

Thanks Azahidi,
Slowly going through all the cantacts entries, pity there is no GLOBAL way to change the name order. (Unless I have missed it !!)
Phil-w

ziffos said:
Yes thanks, I am asking if someone will do it for me - sorry if I was vague but get a bit embarrassed! I have to use my mouth to type so using a "Touch" phone is great but when it comes to more intricate and complicated tasks, I am afraid it gets too difficult. I will be happy to pay of course - postage as well as paying for the job to be done. I just want to get rid of the Orange branded software as I find their software is too "fidly" and I also find that normal access to wifi is easier for me when not using Orange's silly "Unique Manager".
I am based in the UK.
EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU
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Hi Ziffos,
I didn't quite understand the bit at the end 'EDIT - NOW SORTED - THANKYOU'. Does this mean that you've managed to get your phone flashed? If you have then great! If not then I might be able to do it for you. Let me know.

Any help apreciated????
Hello
I have just read all the posts here about the Unique Manager and I completely agree. It is a nightmare, Orange UK have wrecked this phone. I have just got my Mrs. a contract on this phone as I intend to set up sat nav on it for her and I have the touch HD, so off the back of your comments I am looking to flash it.
It is running V1.71 and from reading the thrads I have to revert it back to V1.41, how easy did you find it to debrand it as it appears many people have had problems and I am worried about rendering the phone useless!!!!
I have never done anything like this before but I do understand the instructions as they are very indepth, but I am worried that if any exceptions or problems present themselves I won't be able to deal with it.
How straight forward is this process?
Any help is very much appreciated.

It was a long process but worth it!
Hi there,
I've flashed my phone about 2 weeks ago now and am having a much better experience. Actually I really love the phone now so my advice would be to go for it and flash it. I didn't actually read too many of the comments, I just followed the instructions and did it. Maybe just as well as I might have been put off.
Anyway the process was very long winded as I had to take someone's raw dump and then convert that into a ROM and then flash the phone with it. Took quite a long time but I definitely feel that it was worth it. I don't know how risky it is so can't really advise you on that.
I can send you the ROM file that I did generate if you want do it. I hope it goes as smoothly as it did for me if you do decide to go ahead with it.
Wadsy_uk said:
Hello
I have just read all the posts here about the Unique Manager and I completely agree. It is a nightmare, Orange UK have wrecked this phone. I have just got my Mrs. a contract on this phone as I intend to set up sat nav on it for her and I have the touch HD, so off the back of your comments I am looking to flash it.
It is running V1.71 and from reading the thrads I have to revert it back to V1.41, how easy did you find it to debrand it as it appears many people have had problems and I am worried about rendering the phone useless!!!!
I have never done anything like this before but I do understand the instructions as they are very indepth, but I am worried that if any exceptions or problems present themselves I won't be able to deal with it.
How straight forward is this process?
Any help is very much appreciated.
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does the UMA ability to connect to orange network via a wifi access point then a cell tower still work
thanks
d

for the benefit of people who may be subscribed to this thread, I think I have found a fix for the orange rom using data connection instead of wifi, read on here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4517074&postcount=12
post back to that thread if it works for you!

New to everything regarding PDA and XDA (looking for noob friends ;) )

Hi all,
Yeeeah, so the Leo was finally announced at the major/best 3G network in Denmark, the worldwide operator "3". And thats awesome, so of course I hit my wallet and cashed out and got the phone yesterday. Brilliant.
Got the phone in my hand, my god, its beautiful and all, its my first PDA phone so I'm very noobish and overwhelmed by everything, but I'm lovin' it so far! Okay, well I started looking around on the big www and came across this fantastic site and now I'm thinking, I wanna get involved with this shizzle and start cooking - or at least start looking at the menu!!
But I realize that I don't know anything about how to do all this, so started looking around in the Leo Wiki, Tips and Tricks sticky and so on but I feel that its all very comprehensive and I simply don't know where to start, and I don't think the (otherwise awesome) guides are as extensive as could, at least not for my understanding. I haven't come across a newb forum/thread where all the very, very basics are introduced/discussed, so I'm thinking: any noobs out there? or post-noobs? who wanna share some of their mighty wisdom and experience with me? (yeah, I want some Leo-friends)
Okay, so I found a few things I wanna try:
From Leo hints and tricks sticky:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
WARNING: some danish might appear when clicking here (this is the danish HTC ROM link, look at bottom of page)
I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
Kind Regards

Welcome and Hello
I`ll take 5 minutes to write a reply seeing as no one else can be bothered.....
Welcome to the forum, you`ll find all you need here, My advise would be to READ READ READ , and if you have any questions SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH, you`ll get flamed if you post something thats been posted before, even though if you do post, it moves from the first 2 pages so fast hence no answers......
16gb sd card will work fine,
Read carefully the goldcard method for updating ROMS and only if you feel confident enough would i recomend it...I`ve flashed 1.61 no issues....
Richie

same as i am......i am currently waiting for my beast and been reading and reading and reading this forum all this while........but the problem is.....i am a really3 noobie person on IT....some topic that were discuss here i can understand but some of have no idea at alll...hehehheh hopefully can get some knowledge from u guys.......[please forgive my english...heheheh]

Hi WildL,
I understand the noob feelings. Although this site has a wealth of information, it's not the noob friendliest place.
.cab files are like .exe files for your pc. You don't unpack it anywhere, simply copy/download to your device and run (click on it through file manager) it from where ever you saved it. It will unpack itself and install. Your only option generally is to install directly onto your device or onto your SD card.
Not sure on the location thing as I haven't experienced it.
For your SD card, there is nothing on there you have to worry about. The ROM is stored on the device and the card is simply additional storage. Feel free to shove a new one in there.
As for changing ROMs. As a noob, stick to stock updates for now. You're on the newest device with all the newest features so custom roms won't offer much except little tweaks (but the phone is fast enough already) and additional apps you can just install yourself. Some MAY be more stable but current it's not worth the risk of bricking your device. Read read read and when you feel comfortable and think your ready, then start looking into cooked roms.
Good luck!

WildL said:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.[/I]
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
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I'd recommend you use this instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
It means you have the X which you can configure to close apps or minimize them (you can open settings for it by tapping it on the sense ui and going to the wrench). You can also list open apps from the sense ui by clicking it and simply switch to or close anything in the list. Have a play - it's the best all-round solution.
WildL said:
Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
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At least your location works! lol
It uses your provider's network to get your location - not GPS. It's always going to be within a mile or 2. Since it's only meant for general info, it doesn't really matter much. I doubt the weather 2 miles down the road is much different than it is where you are
WildL said:
3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
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The SD card is purely for storage. You can take it out and the phone will still function properly. This obviously changes if you install software on the card. Unfortunately, the HD2 has a pitiful amount of internal storage memory, so I'd actually recommend using the card to install stuff on. With this in mind, I got myself a 16GB SD card and use that, treating it as if I'll never remove it. I'd obviously recommend this, cos it's what I do
WildL said:
Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
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If your phone is pretty new and you've not done much setting up, it's probably the best time to make sure you've got the most up-to-date ROM. If you got the phone from a provider then you can officially only upgrade using ROMs that they supply. If you got it completely SIM free, then you can use the HTC ones that are out there. The current new one (1.61) is actually an official HTC one, so it will be as risk free as flashing a ROM can ever be. It's just not officially released yet. (I believe HTC "leak" their ROMs so that this community can beta test for them, before they release to the general public, but that's just my belief )
Since the phone is still so new though, I don't really think that it makes much difference. The ROM upgrades seem to be doing so little at the minute that you may well not notice any benefits.
Either way, if it's official, you've at least got some comeback if it bricks your new phone!
Basically, this is just a preference. Do what you think feels right. Just bear in mind that a ROM flash means a hard reset, which means setting EVERYTHING up again, from scratch.
WildL said:
I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
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Well you're in the best place to ask your zillion other questions. This is the right place to ask this kind of question, and I'm sure that there'll be plenty of people to follow me in welcoming you here. I've been a member of this community for just over 18 months now, and it's been great. There's a lot of good people on here who are more than happy to show off their knowledge er... I mean be helpful! lol
Have fun with your new toy