I know this has been hashed out a number of times, but I need to reassert the efforts of this forum on accessing the aGPS coordinates in many of our CDMA pocketpcs. The link below refers to a program for symbian UIQ phones that allows access to the aGPS for navigation.
http://www.wild-mobile.com/eng/viewproject.php?mid=b2d472166bbd3016587cfc659c792435
If this exists there MUST be a way to access the GPS coordinates on our phones. Ideally what we need is a way to create a softGPS that would output GPS coordinates to be used with 3rd party navigation software such as TomTom. I have heard that the output format for aGPS is different than with proper sat-based GPS units. Perhaps a program such as GPS Babel http://www.gpsbabel.org would assist with that. I will gladly ante up some money to anyone who can make this a reality (and I'm sure I'm not alone!) Thanks for reading this far down the page!
MJB
mbial said:
I know this has been hashed out a number of times, but I need to reassert the efforts of this forum on accessing the aGPS coordinates in many of our CDMA pocketpcs. The link below refers to a program for symbian UIQ phones that allows access to the aGPS for navigation.
http://www.wild-mobile.com/eng/viewproject.php?mid=b2d472166bbd3016587cfc659c792435
If this exists there MUST be a way to access the GPS coordinates on our phones. Ideally what we need is a way to create a softGPS that would output GPS coordinates to be used with 3rd party navigation software such as TomTom. I have heard that the output format for aGPS is different than with proper sat-based GPS units. Perhaps a program such as GPS Babel http://www.gpsbabel.org would assist with that. I will gladly ante up some money to anyone who can make this a reality (and I'm sure I'm not alone!) Thanks for reading this far down the page!
MJB
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I have TomTom which is great. The GPS pins you down to within a few feet of where you are. Fantastic.
Assisted GPS (why they call it that beats me as it is definitely NOT GPS) has to determine where you are relative to cell sites and I'm not sure that it is going to provide an accurate enough fix to make is useful for navigating.
While there is a mysterious GPS section of the OMAP chip that runs an HTC wizard, I don't think there is definitive information as to whether it is actually used in these devices or not.
aGPS Hack on Tytan/Mogul
I, too, am eager to figure out how to get this to work. In theory, once we get access to the tower aGPS info, we could create a library that converts the tower format into standard GPS feed format and "fool" Google Maps, etc. into thinking it is accessing standard GPS feed data.
This would be immensely helpful, even if we can only get general location accuracy (+- 1 mile).
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Hi!
Reading about some Navman GPS devices, I've found they have the ability to navigate toward the GPS-embedded coordinates of GPS-pictures. Is there any way to enable TT6 to do the same trick? Or other process to use the GPS data in the pics?
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Hi!
Reading about some Navman GPS devices, I've found they have the ability to navigate toward the GPS-embedded coordinates of GPS-pictures. Is there any way to enable TT6 to do the same trick? Or other process to use the GPS data in the pics?
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That would be very nice. I've seen it too on the Navman and it worked very nice. But I don't think they can do here a thing with it, because they can't look into TomTom 6 code.
Well.... What about a TT6 upgrade to do the trick? If they found how to navigate-to a contact address from the contact manager app, it could be the same for GPS-pics. Maybe one of the genious in this forum can make a patch..... just a wish!
While we can get the source code for WM5 and WM6 to help us fiddle about with the OS's, doing the same for an application like tomtom, which is patented and protected, is slim to none. Without maybe paying a large amount of money to tomtom to get hold of the code.
I could be wrong..
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While we can get the source code for WM5 and WM6 to help us fiddle about with the OS's, doing the same for an application like tomtom, which is patented and protected, is slim to none. Without maybe paying a large amount of money to tomtom to get hold of the code.
I could be wrong..
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Well, you may be right about Copyrights, but at the same time, it should be easy to "convert" the EXIF GPS data on the pics to the POI format TT6 uses... and this is widely done with Radar POI's listings and the like.
Hasn't anyone noted the folder where the GPS pics are stored.... It's named "My POI"! It has to mean something!
Waiting........
Antimus said:
While we can get the source code for WM5 and WM6 to help us fiddle about with the OS's, doing the same for an application like tomtom, which is patented and protected, is slim to none. Without maybe paying a large amount of money to tomtom to get hold of the code.
I could be wrong..
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Oh, and Microsoft code isn't copyrighted, is that it?
So where, exactly, is it that you're able to get to the "source code" for WM5 or WM6? We all have the same executables for TT6 as we do for WM, and therefore are free to disassemble/reverse-engineer...
you can collect GPS data using BeeLineGPS, or TuneGPS
You can than expost you track and conbine it in pictures.
you can than view them in google earth..
I personly use BeeLineGPS and Canon 5D, than with the canon updated software v.3 combine the data with images.
alexk said:
you can collect GPS data using BeeLineGPS, or TuneGPS
You can than expost you track and conbine it in pictures.
you can than view them in google earth..
I personly use BeeLineGPS and Canon 5D, than with the canon updated software v.3 combine the data with images.
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Thanks, will try.
I've had a search around the forum, but can't find something that will do the following:
I literally want an application that can scan for access points, and will list them along with their geographical position, either on a map, or with coordinates.
Ministumbler doesn't seem to recognise the wifi card in the Trinity, although has no problems with the GPS as it supports NMEA standards.
Perhaps there is a tomtom plugin or suchlike?
I seem to remember there being something for pocketstreets from microsoft that could do something along those lines.
Anyone? Please!?
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I've had a search around the forum, but can't find something that will do the following:
I literally want an application that can scan for access points, and will list them along with their geographical position, either on a map, or with coordinates.
Ministumbler doesn't seem to recognise the wifi card in the Trinity, although has no problems with the GPS as it supports NMEA standards.
Perhaps there is a tomtom plugin or suchlike?
I seem to remember there being something for pocketstreets from microsoft that could do something along those lines.
Anyone? Please!?
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Try this one:
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/
Also peekpocket is usable on our trinity but doesn't have a gps interface.
Ciao
Try WiFiFoFum prog...it has everything you want
VIto FindMe lets you send your location via an encrypted SMS to a friend also using Vito FindMe and then allow them to input the co-ordinates into Google Maps to see where you (and they) are at that time.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-vito-findme.html
Downside is the fact that it appears to be currently working with "Pocket PC Phone Edition with built-in GPS receiver". May have to wait for the possible GPS unlock later this year to test it with our Moguls.
Just as info...
Hi, i've already post it on the gps unlock thread, but for someone who wish interesting free navigation soft... Get a look at
http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/index.php
If you like vito, try Vito smart navagtor, that combine all the Vito tools...
And may be Tracky will interest you.
Also Navizon and Reperion may be tryed.
In fact when i've got my P4000 the tech supp, was tolding me that the gps chip of my device was not locked-up, and that i should found and 3rd app that fit my device....(that techn was less knowing than me lol)
So i tried many app.
Gpspassion may also be an interesting forum for info about gps...
Wish will help you, to dicover the gps interesting worls.
P.S. in community that you're looking for (net tracking) you'll find tools like registring for you and your friends point of interest like: automatic speed radars cameras, speed limits( the soft will advise you of over-speed), many other geocatching funny tools.
Other forum: http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Downloads
http://j2memap.landspurg.net/
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/richessegps/releases/1.0.4.php
http://geocool.reperion.com/Web/
http://www.navizon.com/phpbb2/index.php (Navizon is a peer-to-peer virtual gps using cell tower, with a reward program for the users that help creat the localisation net. Advantage get localisation in city or subway (like subway maps) were some other gps failled, but in regional area it"s really not the better one's 'cause it need cell towers)
yea but taht VITO FindMe doesnt work with 6800 tho
Does not work with 6800 yet !!
True... Mentioned it in my post. There might be a work around to get it to work though and considering the talent of the forum, I am sure someone will find a way.
FindMe generates position errors of up to 150 metres when I try it. i think it may be miscalulating the lat/long in decimal from the lat/long returned by the GPS. GPS is OK with all other GPS apps I have run on my Kaiser (v1615).
Apart from that it's a great app
Hi I'm developing an application for WM that will use location. I don't think I will have too much trouble with implementing GPS but does anyone know of any information to get the devices rough location without GPS using GSM towers or however google maps 'my location' works when GPS is turned off.
Also a quick question I have an idea for what I think is a simple (not related) application and I think such a useful idea that I'm surprised it hasn't already been made. My question is if I ask about how I may go about creating the application is there any chance of someone thinking its a good idea making it themselves and somehow copy writing it so I can't make it myself?
many thanks.
Just bumping in case anyone can help.
As far as I know GSM triangulation only works when your service provider allows it, which is a rarely the case. Google uses the internet via GPRS or WLAN to estimate a user's position. So you'd have to find out how to get the node information to display it on a map.
edit: try to use IP tracing
I think Google finds your location from your CellID. Using the devices that have both GPS and Google Maps installed, it builds up a CellID database which is used to locate phones when no GPS is available.
You can do something similar by a) getting the device CellID and b) using the OpenCellID service to "translate" the CellID to a location.
Look at this:
http://dalelane.co.uk/blog/?p=241
And this:
http://www.opencellid.org/api
Also check out these threads by joubertvasc, he's using CellID and the OpenCellID APIs in his programs, and if I remember correctly they're open source, so those should help you a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203&highlight=cellid
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456626&highlight=cellid
ALSO! Next time please ask your question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
Thanks guys you have given me loads of great information to be getting on with. Sorry about posting in the wrong place didn't notice the Q&A section. Thanks again.
I tried to reverse engineer the protocol used by Live for it's location server and I posted my results here. I haven't indulged any further since things have gotten busy around here but it's a good start.
Google Maps lookup service has already been reverse engineered by a guy on code project here.
I've also looked at Fire Eagle's implementation based on wireless hotspots and it uses skyhook.
Luis Espinosa's TrackMe also queries multiple cell id databases, you can even choose which ones you want to draw from (Google, OpenID, etc). His code isn't open as far as I know but he might be willing to answer some questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
you guys are great thanks so much for the links I'll be sure to upload my program here first if its any good that is.
Is there any way to use Google's location services? The code project link is down :/
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Is there any way to use Google's location services? The code project link is down :/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=725568&page=2
badasschris said:
Thanks guys you have given me loads of great information to be getting on with. Sorry about posting in the wrong place didn't notice the Q&A section. Thanks again.
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I tried to reverse engineer the protocol used by Live for it's location server and I posted my results here. I haven't indulged any further since things have gotten busy around here but it's a good start.
Google Maps lookup service has already been reverse engineered by a guy on code project here.
I've also looked at Fire Eagle's implementation based on wireless hotspots and it uses skyhook.
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I always see a "GPS tool", "quick GPS" and all these stock apps in every cooked or stock roms, and i don't really know what are they for....
QuickGPS is actually a very useful utility. Use it to download up-to-date files to speed up acquisition times.
They were useful as hell on devices with POS GPS. I'm looking at you TP1 & 2.
can you guys give me some examples of which apps will work with quick GPS???
Presumably it's any app that uses GPS managed by Windows. This is a wild, uneducated guess, but I think Windows manages most of the GPS functions, and would factor in AGPS and Quickgps for whatever program calling on it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quick GPS informs the interface where to search and lock into GPS-sats. It is updated every 6 days.
It has nothing to do with any program using the GPS receiver it just helps the receiver to lock in as quick as possible.