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What was imate or microsoft thinking...

... when they chose to hide the GPS application by default?
After a long time I figured out how to enable it through the registry.
But I am wondering WHY it was disabled and HOW inexperienced users would find hot to do this. (In the manual, it says "Goto Setting and click on the system tab"). Ofcourse it doesn't exist!!!!!

Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:

Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx

xphone said:
Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx
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Sure, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38314
It has instructions.
For me, I also had to delete the"Redirect" entry.
Andrew

knowsleyroader said:
Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:
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Oh har har. :x
Microsoft did not hide the app setting. It was an i-mate choice. Microsoft does not hide any of the settings on Windows mobile. It's a pure OEM choice.
And why did they hide it? Possibly so the clueless newbies don't stumble upon it and think 'gasp! It's got a GPS too!', spend money on maps, and then discover that it doesn't have GPS, and the complain to customer support about false advertising etc. etc.

Perhaps they did hide it so that real clever people can find and tell proudly ro pthers that they have found a great 'new' feature. A feel good marketing trick for early adaptors?

i agree with snorbaard,
cos M$ make a generic operating system, there is no reason a universal type device could actually be manufactured with GPS hardware, i would then imagine the oem would have the gps visable.

what does it do then?

What makes me laugh is that I watched MS' public presentation of WM2005, and that GPS data sharing was one of the main features they mentioned.. and at first no trace of that
Just enables redirecting data received on a COM port from a GPS receiver to another COM port that will allow multiple connections from different programs. So you can run TomTom, VisualGPS and GPS Tuner at the same time
Otherwise the COM port would only accept one simultaneous connection.

I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave

Paragon said:
I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave
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Actually, Kilrah is correct, its a new feature of wm5 that allows multiple programs to access the com port simultaneously. If you wanted to use different apps that used the gps simultaneously, like tom tom navigator or pocket streets with say a program like navizon, it wouldn't have been possible w/ wm2003, but with wm2005 it works. I've heard that it was disabled because its not complete. I've used it and it occasionally requires a reset to regain access to the com port my gps uses. It is not in any way related to the e911 GPS reciever build into the phone, and cannot be used with it.
-Sess-
"...you might as well paint yourself yellow, run around like a maniac and call yourself banana man..."

Hi,
will i need to do this reg hack to get tomtom working?
or only if i wanna use mutiple gps systems?
cheers

noob q - need uk maps/directions app but i have no gps

I have a 512mb card, i would like to install an app that will allow me to plan journey (only need uk maps) and give me on screen directions. Initially gps navigation is not necessary but i would like the option to incorporate this possibly at a later stage....
If possible i'd like to keep it as cheap as possible (who wouldnt?), and i dont really feel like spending £££ on a tom tom setup for pda because the way i see it i might as well get a tom tom 300....

Try Navizon, it's navigation using AP's & cell-towers. I didn't got it working, need to spend some time for it. It's free (or trial can't remember exactly) but needs gprs/AP to the web.
M

If you don't need GPS, have you got AutoRoute or MapPoint on your PC? If you have you can install Pocket Streets which is a free add in with both pieces of software. Just a thought!

Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.

Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?

findus said:
Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?
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It wont be supported, but it may run fine. if you dont mind a possible hard reset aquire a copy & try it, if it works ok great, if not ignore me for forgetting it was designed to WM2003

You could try Mapopolis http://www.mapopolis.com

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findus said:
Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?
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It wont be supported, but it may run fine. if you dont mind a possible hard reset aquire a copy & try it, if it works ok great, if not ignore me for forgetting it was designed to WM2003
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I am very, very sure that installing TT3 on a WM5 device is not something that is going to work. Even 5 needs an update for WM5 compatibility.

there's always...
there's always...
www.earthcomber.com
free mapping software
wm5 no prob
accurate too
next step for me is to setup www.navizon.com to provide a "faux" GPS signal to it!!!

Just stumbled upon Earthcomber independent of this thread--wow this is a cool program! Anyone had issues with it? I've already got it installed and running on my Wizard, but looking to avoid issues others have already found. Thanks...

I Have a GPS Reciever, Need software

Hi,
I have a GPS reciever (bluetooth) an i have been looking everywhere for GPS software that wont cost me anything or i wont need to remortgage my house anyway.
Prefer the nothing part though!!! so anyone have ideas of where to find any?
Dave

Hi Dave,
Without meaning to be flippant, that really depends on what you want to do?
Presumably if you are loooking for free or cheap software, the likes of TomTom and iGo are out of the question? These are two of the better known route planning packages - I.e. get me from A to B - but cost. I'm not aware of any free or cheap alternatives.
If you want to know where you are - e.g. just show your position on a map, Windows Live Search beta or Navizon both do this for free (you'll need an inclusive data plan though as both download maps).
There are also moving map programs (e.g. Fugawi or Oziexplorer), although most require some form of raster map (£££) and are not free themselves.
If you find a good, free (or cheap) moving map package, please let me know!

Try using free tracking and tracing and blogging
try out http://geocool.reperion.com free tracking and tracing in Google Earth and Microsoft Virtual Earth, reverse geocoding, buddytracking and much much more
Free GPS tracking software called : PocketReperion
http://www.reperion.com/files
http://geocool.reperion.com

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try out http://geocool.reperion.com free tracking and tracing in Google Earth and Microsoft Virtual Earth, reverse geocoding, buddytracking and much much more
Free GPS tracking software called : PocketReperion
http://www.reperion.com/files
http://geocool.reperion.com
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Doesn't exists a free lunch... They wan't something very valuable, your personal data and they want to sell some part of your time to companies. How?
Is easy. Do you know in economical terms the meaning of RESOURCE? Is something that other people want, they would like to pay to have. The water IS a resource and the value and the price are related to the amount available and the request for this resource. But we have a LOT of water here, so the price is low.
SALT was a resource, then they have discovered new technologies to preserve meat and to obtain salt, but we still have SALARY (cames from SALT, SALE in italian) and SALARIA road in Italy...
The diamonds are something more requested and easy to understand, but try to think to something different: health or... your time! Having part of your time means to sell something to you and grabbing some of your money. All the money you earn is something to conquer.
So as an example you have TV movie for "free" (it seems they are free, you will pay later, in the supermarket )
You have it for free but they shared your full name, Lucid (AKA Mike H......... ?)
I prefer to give 100 Euros to Route 66, save connection time and battery and keep my personal data. Remember latins? Do you now what trojan horse is? (the FIRST one!) Troians found a wonderful giant horse and they want to bring inside the city (Troy) Only one said: TIMEO DANAOS ET DONA FERENTES , I am afraid of greeks, even when they bring gifts! I am afraid of companies EXPECIALLY when they brings gifts! we all knows the Troy story...

Windows Live Search
Try http://wls.live.com
Download the Pocket PC version
You have to have a data account to download the maps in real time. It does not point you in the direction you are headed. In other words the screen is always pointing north. However, it is fun to see the GPS in action. You must create a Com Port to the BT receiver and configure the options in the program to use the BT receiver. Not a full featured driving GPS solution but a good mapping solution.

So if one has a bluetooth GPS receiver and wants to pay for navigation software ...which one would be the best for accuracy and simplicity....regardless of cost?

that's a bit like saying what is the best car - it's a bit of a subjective issue. there are other threads that cover this

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So if one has a bluetooth GPS receiver and wants to pay for navigation software ...which one would be the best for accuracy and simplicity....regardless of cost?
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I tested Pocket street, Tom Tom 6 and Route 66. Then I had a Garmin eMap,now a Quest an tested an eTreck and a Nuvi.
TT6, R66,Nuvi are for city nav (are useless off road), simulated 3d nav. Nuvi has a great screen, TT6 and R66 are more or less the same, chose the one most updated from users for your area (I mean Point of Interest, POI, speed traps,...)
Quest iis great also on the sea and offroad, a great trackback function, really water proof, 20 ours of continuous functioning. Pocket street doesn't have routing capability, you just have gps info and the point on the map.
Quest (450 euro)if you have money, MS pocket street if you havent (25 euro) 200 (GPS+Sw+1gb SD) for TT6 and R66. If yuo like sailing, flying or trekking... Garnin!

I've used many GPS's thur the last few years and hove found that the Garmin products are all at the top of the list.
I just loaded Garmin Que on my 8525 and works great. I'm very use to the interface as it is very close to all the stand alone Garmin GPS I've used.
Garmin Que only works with a Garmin GPS receviver.

I have just got a copy of the TOMTOM V5.21 and unfortunatly the data disc with the maps on it was damaged on the way to my house. friend gave it to me. Now were cani go to get maps for it. i dont wanna spend money to get them, can this be done????

VirtualEarth Mobile freeware. Check p2p for the other stuff

I suggest you read the following thread carefully. First and last post is fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287849
TomTom are checking this forum for illegal distribution of their software.
The fact that an aberrant alpha particle managed to penetrate the atmosphere and cause your map disk irrepairable damage is unfortunate.
Consider speaking to TomTom for a replacement.
Otherwise, search the board for TomTom and see what I've had to say about getting hold of non-retail copies of it.
V

Who has to read?

hedrixus my comment is directed at DNY80:
I have just got a copy of the TOMTOM V5.21 and unfortunatly the data disc with the maps on it was damaged on the way to my house. friend gave it to me. Now were cani go to get maps for it. i dont wanna spend money to get them, can this be done????
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Do be responsible guys. The board is getting increasing threats of legal action.
V

I tried the Delorme product and TomTom 6 (I DID purchase them). I think Tom Tom 6 is just about as good as the one built into my car.
Come on folks, MOST of the software that runs on a pocketPC is not that expensive! Don't cause this place to shut down because you are too tight to lay out a few dollars.
If you can afford a PocketPC phone, you can probably afford to purchase the software that you need/want.

Gps Logging

Hi all I am running TomTom 6 on my Spv M700, are there any add on programmes I can use to log a journey. If not I am thinking about buying a GpsBug that will show the route taken on Google Earth Maps.
Many Thanks

there are plenty of apps which do what you want!
try noni gps plot(freeware) or other commercial software like 'Run GPS', 'trackpal'....
they keep a track of variables like speed altitude plus lots more and can be imported to Google earth. just do a Google search for em

I use Miomap3.2 on my trinity and you can log your rounte onto any map you have, this helped me back track a taxi's route that he toke accross Bulgeria so i could get back in a hire car, Perfect! plus its alot smaller than TomTom, Give it a try sometime

You can try TrackMe (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667). It does all you want (I think)

I use GPSplot ( http://aeguerre.free.fr/Public/PocketPC/NoniGPSPlot/EN/index.php )
to track and export to google earth. The site indicates also how to create a google earth background..

i personally use Run GPS, its for training, exercise etc it even handles multiple google maps with zoom function as backgrounds for tracking! you enter your personal info and it calculates how many calories you used etc.. don't know how accurate that is tho!

Thanks for all the replies, I am trying to run a tracking/logging programme while I am running Tom Tom 6. I don't expect to see the log on TomTom but would like to access the route afterwards. The problem I am having is my Orange Spv M700 that has Gps internally will not allow any of the splitter progammes to split the Gps signal between two progarmmes.
i.e. allow Tomtom to run with track me. I can run track me but not have TomTom running at the same time.
Thanks for all your help guys.
Tx1oss

check this link out!
http://web.tiscali.it/macri/Event_Logger/

Thanks for the reply. Event Logger is not compatible with TomTom Nav 6. I have since managed to split my Gps port and I am trying some of the other programmes suggested.
Again many thanks to everyone.
Tx1oss

I suggest you to buy an external data-logger device, like Wintec WBT201.
You can adjust how to log, e.g. every second, all 5 meters and so on. And you trinity don´t have to be on all the time.
After your journey you can sell the wintec.
Torsten

Tx1oss said:
I have since managed to split my Gps port
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How exactly did you manage that?

I wanted a Gps logging programme/tool that i could use all the time not for a 1 off journey, I managed to split the port on my M700 by using Gps gate. Unfortunately I purchased a programme called Navio which logs journeys in Nmea format, using this and my tomtom at the same time slowed up my M700. I can use both at the same time using Gps gate but as I have explained everything runs very slow and tomtom locks up now & then.

GPS Route Registration?

Hello,
I wonder if there is a program, where I can get my route administration done with my Touch Diamond (or other gps-enabled ppc's).
A program where i can say 'START ROUTE' and it logs the current GPS-position, it counts the driven KM's, and when i say 'STOP ROUTE' it logs it to a file with date, km's and better with destination names (connect to google maps?)
I know some sort of things exist, but not 'simple' ..
I need it for the Taxes, i run my own company and have to write down every single km I drive. Pfff...
any ideas?

I think TRACKME might be what you are looking for(best of all: it's free!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667

I think it is what I need indeed.
Found it, sorry for this tread !!
Thanx Casper

Riel said:
I think it is what I need indeed.
Found it, sorry for this tread !!
Thanx Casper
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feel free to share?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667
It's all available there.
Since I can log GPS coordinates on my own server, in fact I can get a plot from there very easy. It looks very promising.

there's one which doesn't require .NET 3.5.. called MyMotion 1.1.. i'm using it for my bicycle trips.. you can log your route while you drive and then use a mapmaker to match a google earth map with coordinates to it so you can see where you drove.
it's really really good.