What was imate or microsoft thinking... - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

... when they chose to hide the GPS application by default?
After a long time I figured out how to enable it through the registry.
But I am wondering WHY it was disabled and HOW inexperienced users would find hot to do this. (In the manual, it says "Goto Setting and click on the system tab"). Ofcourse it doesn't exist!!!!!

Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:

Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx

xphone said:
Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx
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Sure, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38314
It has instructions.
For me, I also had to delete the"Redirect" entry.
Andrew

knowsleyroader said:
Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:
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Oh har har. :x
Microsoft did not hide the app setting. It was an i-mate choice. Microsoft does not hide any of the settings on Windows mobile. It's a pure OEM choice.
And why did they hide it? Possibly so the clueless newbies don't stumble upon it and think 'gasp! It's got a GPS too!', spend money on maps, and then discover that it doesn't have GPS, and the complain to customer support about false advertising etc. etc.

Perhaps they did hide it so that real clever people can find and tell proudly ro pthers that they have found a great 'new' feature. A feel good marketing trick for early adaptors?

i agree with snorbaard,
cos M$ make a generic operating system, there is no reason a universal type device could actually be manufactured with GPS hardware, i would then imagine the oem would have the gps visable.

what does it do then?

What makes me laugh is that I watched MS' public presentation of WM2005, and that GPS data sharing was one of the main features they mentioned.. and at first no trace of that
Just enables redirecting data received on a COM port from a GPS receiver to another COM port that will allow multiple connections from different programs. So you can run TomTom, VisualGPS and GPS Tuner at the same time
Otherwise the COM port would only accept one simultaneous connection.

I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave

Paragon said:
I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave
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Actually, Kilrah is correct, its a new feature of wm5 that allows multiple programs to access the com port simultaneously. If you wanted to use different apps that used the gps simultaneously, like tom tom navigator or pocket streets with say a program like navizon, it wouldn't have been possible w/ wm2003, but with wm2005 it works. I've heard that it was disabled because its not complete. I've used it and it occasionally requires a reset to regain access to the com port my gps uses. It is not in any way related to the e911 GPS reciever build into the phone, and cannot be used with it.
-Sess-
"...you might as well paint yourself yellow, run around like a maniac and call yourself banana man..."

Hi,
will i need to do this reg hack to get tomtom working?
or only if i wanna use mutiple gps systems?
cheers

Related

WLAN Analyzer...

Has anybody come across a good network analyzer that works on the Universal? I have tried several but to no avail...
Thanks in advance...
Cyb
Read my signature, should be enough.
If not, search for ministumbler in the universal forum.
WiFiFoFum, or Hitchhiker. Both work beautifully on my spv m5000.
Hey Helio
If you looked at my question I am looking for a network analyzer not just a LAN recognizer. I have WIFIFOFUM running on my machine... I want to go further and analyze network traffic. Not just find an unprotected Network. But I appreciate the jab about being a noob and to use the search function.
Cyb
glad someone does.
so, you are after a proggy that can monitor the data being transfered? or to break wep keys? or to just generally keep usage statistics?
monitor the data...
Yes after a proggy that can monitor the data being xferred. Tried some various that claim they can but none functioned on the Universal. Any clue?
Cyb
I have tried vxsniffer with no success on jasjar.
"I Hate n00bs Who Don't Use The "Search" Button.... "
I hate 'clever' twats who think they know it all.
The search feature on this forum is rubbish.
ArgyleMoss said:
"I Hate n00bs Who Don't Use The "Search" Button.... "
I hate 'clever' twats who think they know it all.
The search feature on this forum is rubbish.
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I really don't want to inflame things further, however, don't all search engines depend upon the keywords they're asked to search on?
I believe mind reading search engines have yet to be invented! :wink:
P.S: Not a "'clever' twxt", just one of those mutually trying to help each other maximize their devices. :lol:
just to check, is the universal capable of breaking wep keys?
Yes - but do you really -want- to suck up many megabytes of traffic, and then sit around with your universal as it calculates for hours on end to crack it ?
I *guess* if you do, then you must have some real financial or data-wise interest in cracking somebody's WEP %)
Back on track...
To put this thread back on track... Does anyone know of a wlan analyzer for the Universal?
Thanks!
Cyb
RE
Have you try IP Dashboard Monitor? Here:-
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=9463
I tried several products to monitor connections similar to what Ethereal does, none of them would work until I found "PhatNet", which works like a charm on my O2 XDA IIi (HTC Alpine):
http://pocketland.de/product.php?SID=5ee8e3a820f3a547b72430ea224f8472&prod_id=17476
Don't let the german page put you off, just click on the .exe or .cab download link. The software is in english. It's a 15 day full version trial.
Not sure if it will work on the Universal too, but worth a try.
hth,
Tin
Works or appears to work on the T-mobile 1.20.32 WWE ROM, but I believe the problem maybe that Phatware nolonger offers this program for sale, and so it's not possible to get the registration code.
http://www.socketcom.com/product/SW1221-596.asp
work super
Phatnet and vxsniffer
Cyberslinger,
the above references are the only ones I came accross after searching for a sniffer and protocol analyzer (heliosfa, maybe you could google for "protocol or packet analyzer"...).
Never had the opportunity to use them.
I suspect these two will sniff only layer 3 and will no give you a real promiscuous mode on 802.11 if that's what you're after...
I even searched if ethereal had been ported to familiar for my Ipaq 5550 and couldn't find it.
I'm still using my airopeek/airmagnet...
Cheers,
Hal.

noob q - need uk maps/directions app but i have no gps

I have a 512mb card, i would like to install an app that will allow me to plan journey (only need uk maps) and give me on screen directions. Initially gps navigation is not necessary but i would like the option to incorporate this possibly at a later stage....
If possible i'd like to keep it as cheap as possible (who wouldnt?), and i dont really feel like spending £££ on a tom tom setup for pda because the way i see it i might as well get a tom tom 300....
Try Navizon, it's navigation using AP's & cell-towers. I didn't got it working, need to spend some time for it. It's free (or trial can't remember exactly) but needs gprs/AP to the web.
M
If you don't need GPS, have you got AutoRoute or MapPoint on your PC? If you have you can install Pocket Streets which is a free add in with both pieces of software. Just a thought!
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?
findus said:
Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?
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It wont be supported, but it may run fine. if you dont mind a possible hard reset aquire a copy & try it, if it works ok great, if not ignore me for forgetting it was designed to WM2003
You could try Mapopolis http://www.mapopolis.com
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findus said:
Beeble said:
Check out a tomtom 3. now that version 5 is out, version 3 is cheap and can be used to plan a route (just tell it where to start & finish), then at any point a gps mouse will give you full satnav for not much outlay. However if you just want printed instructions of A->B then google for routeplanner, AA & RAC both have one (sure there are many many others too). Input your start & end locations and then print the map & directions off.
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Does TT3 run on WM5?
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It wont be supported, but it may run fine. if you dont mind a possible hard reset aquire a copy & try it, if it works ok great, if not ignore me for forgetting it was designed to WM2003
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I am very, very sure that installing TT3 on a WM5 device is not something that is going to work. Even 5 needs an update for WM5 compatibility.
there's always...
there's always...
www.earthcomber.com
free mapping software
wm5 no prob
accurate too
next step for me is to setup www.navizon.com to provide a "faux" GPS signal to it!!!
Just stumbled upon Earthcomber independent of this thread--wow this is a cool program! Anyone had issues with it? I've already got it installed and running on my Wizard, but looking to avoid issues others have already found. Thanks...

Freeware GPS utility

VIto FindMe lets you send your location via an encrypted SMS to a friend also using Vito FindMe and then allow them to input the co-ordinates into Google Maps to see where you (and they) are at that time.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-vito-findme.html
Downside is the fact that it appears to be currently working with "Pocket PC Phone Edition with built-in GPS receiver". May have to wait for the possible GPS unlock later this year to test it with our Moguls.
Just as info...
Hi, i've already post it on the gps unlock thread, but for someone who wish interesting free navigation soft... Get a look at
http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/index.php
If you like vito, try Vito smart navagtor, that combine all the Vito tools...
And may be Tracky will interest you.
Also Navizon and Reperion may be tryed.
In fact when i've got my P4000 the tech supp, was tolding me that the gps chip of my device was not locked-up, and that i should found and 3rd app that fit my device....(that techn was less knowing than me lol)
So i tried many app.
Gpspassion may also be an interesting forum for info about gps...
Wish will help you, to dicover the gps interesting worls.
P.S. in community that you're looking for (net tracking) you'll find tools like registring for you and your friends point of interest like: automatic speed radars cameras, speed limits( the soft will advise you of over-speed), many other geocatching funny tools.
Other forum: http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Downloads
http://j2memap.landspurg.net/
http://pda.jasnapaka.com/richessegps/releases/1.0.4.php
http://geocool.reperion.com/Web/
http://www.navizon.com/phpbb2/index.php (Navizon is a peer-to-peer virtual gps using cell tower, with a reward program for the users that help creat the localisation net. Advantage get localisation in city or subway (like subway maps) were some other gps failled, but in regional area it"s really not the better one's 'cause it need cell towers)
yea but taht VITO FindMe doesnt work with 6800 tho
Does not work with 6800 yet !!
True... Mentioned it in my post. There might be a work around to get it to work though and considering the talent of the forum, I am sure someone will find a way.
FindMe generates position errors of up to 150 metres when I try it. i think it may be miscalulating the lat/long in decimal from the lat/long returned by the GPS. GPS is OK with all other GPS apps I have run on my Kaiser (v1615).
Apart from that it's a great app

GOOD anti theft software for X1

Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
qritikal said:
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
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SmartProtect is for free. You can find it on XDA. This is nothing special nor has it anything to do with FBI. It's basically about catching incoming messages, recognizing SIM change and determining GPS Position. Basic stuff. There are a lot of these apps out there. The developers are just to bad to produce something very good, or I haven't found it yet, which is more likely. That's why I opened this thread.
Smartphone tracker
Sprite Terminator works well
WIMP is what you need. I have it installed on mine in stealth mode.
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
RemoteTracker
Firefall! said:
Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
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Remotetracker is very nice, afik it has most of your needs , and I see it is not listed for removing in control panel so it is hidden actually. Opensorce and free! try it http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/
Firefall! said:
The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
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The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
jackleung said:
The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
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Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
arnisv said:
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
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SW that needs a portal to see your location sucks. If they're bankrupt, your phone is lost. Good anti-theft SW detects SIM change and notifies you - you will find this in my 1st post in necessary features. It means that the SW checks the SIM on boot and if it'a different, it sends an SMS to a predefined number. Obviously, the SMS will be sent over the thief's number and as the receiver you will see his number then. That's the main point of anti-theft-SW.
Firefall! said:
Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
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Well for me all i wanted it for was incase I lose my xperia i can find it back.
Its installed and all program links, remove programs from the list and other detection are gone (stealth mode only way you notice it is if you go into the windows directory when you hook it up to the computer ... meanwhile its some funny name that you would never think its that)
It texts you everytime the sim is changed to give your their new number + gps cordinates
Thats basically it for me with my needs for lojack
I'm using RemoteTracker. Best about it, that you can make it Hardreset safe if you cook it into your ROM.
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
enterfornone said:
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
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Don't get it , why not using a free open source program, when it works just fine and is very very smart? there you can make changes if you need, can or have money to make some one do it for you!
I see your suggestions vary. I have installed Sprite Terminator meanwhile and so far it seems to be the best one among all that were mentioned - if it works the way it should. I have been abroad, so I didn't want to test the features because I don't have unlimited money cheat enabled in my life But I will test it tomorrow. UI and features look great though, uninstallation is password-protected and configuration is simple and effective. I will post my experiences as soon as I've tested it regarding GPS performance and command processing.
why not try smart phone tracker?
it does fine...and its free too
I've tried the GPS of Sprite Terminator now and I'm very pleased but there is one disadvantage, the link provided in the message uses a Website of the manufacturer to display the location (using Google Maps). Direct link to Google Maps would be far better... But apart from that, it's just perfect!

Paranoid user (QuickGPS, eTrust Antivirus vs..)

Hi everyone,
I will be a little paranoid over here so don't take it hard on me =)
I've been using a i-mate k-jam for a long time and switched to touch hd on january. Interestingly the biggest similarity and annoyance for me was the softwares pre-installed to download some sort of data over internet and bugging every week to download new signatures/data and bugging even more if you fail to download.
eTrust found out to be useless and I can't really pinpoint why most handheld GPS devices doesn't really require to update this kind of information (Please correct if I'm wrong).
We might assume the transaction is a simple wget/http download which wouldn't carry any other information to the other party that someone from that IP downloaded something. But if there is a handshaking or at least some kind of a http post is inplace, it could be also sending a unique device idea which would let the guys in Taiwan track our devices our a map.
As I said I'm just being paranoid and making almost a conspiracy theory here but still the possibility exists.
So how can we be sure they are not sending any information out?
We can set up a proxy and mirror incoming traffic from a source ip (phones ip) and dump it with wireshark. Then we will need to define the proxy on our phone and click download.
Is there a wireshark/ethereal kind of packet capture software which can run on these devices? It could ease the job.
Reverse engineering the code? Not experienced in that but It should be quite small when the you think the job it supposed to do.
Any comments, thoughts, help, information - greatly appreciated.
BR, Kaya
You can disable Quick GPS if you want because it isn't necessary for the GPS.
It just speeds up the process of finding satellites.
why don't you just use a nokia 3210? that way you should be pretty safe lolol
philocritus said:
why don't you just use a nokia 3210? that way you should be pretty safe lolol
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Only if you leave BT off JK
I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that using a smartphone exposes someone to a lot of security gaps. The best advice is to keep your bluetooth off / in hidden mode, as this is one of the easiest ways to get at your handheld's data. Moving up the paranoia scale, you can use that NoData program to disable your data connection except for when you really need at - that will prevent most third-party programs from dialing home. And if you're really worried about being tracked, I'd recommend just shutting off your phone when you have something private to do.

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