Paranoid user (QuickGPS, eTrust Antivirus vs..) - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi everyone,
I will be a little paranoid over here so don't take it hard on me =)
I've been using a i-mate k-jam for a long time and switched to touch hd on january. Interestingly the biggest similarity and annoyance for me was the softwares pre-installed to download some sort of data over internet and bugging every week to download new signatures/data and bugging even more if you fail to download.
eTrust found out to be useless and I can't really pinpoint why most handheld GPS devices doesn't really require to update this kind of information (Please correct if I'm wrong).
We might assume the transaction is a simple wget/http download which wouldn't carry any other information to the other party that someone from that IP downloaded something. But if there is a handshaking or at least some kind of a http post is inplace, it could be also sending a unique device idea which would let the guys in Taiwan track our devices our a map.
As I said I'm just being paranoid and making almost a conspiracy theory here but still the possibility exists.
So how can we be sure they are not sending any information out?
We can set up a proxy and mirror incoming traffic from a source ip (phones ip) and dump it with wireshark. Then we will need to define the proxy on our phone and click download.
Is there a wireshark/ethereal kind of packet capture software which can run on these devices? It could ease the job.
Reverse engineering the code? Not experienced in that but It should be quite small when the you think the job it supposed to do.
Any comments, thoughts, help, information - greatly appreciated.
BR, Kaya

You can disable Quick GPS if you want because it isn't necessary for the GPS.
It just speeds up the process of finding satellites.

why don't you just use a nokia 3210? that way you should be pretty safe lolol

philocritus said:
why don't you just use a nokia 3210? that way you should be pretty safe lolol
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Only if you leave BT off JK

I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that using a smartphone exposes someone to a lot of security gaps. The best advice is to keep your bluetooth off / in hidden mode, as this is one of the easiest ways to get at your handheld's data. Moving up the paranoia scale, you can use that NoData program to disable your data connection except for when you really need at - that will prevent most third-party programs from dialing home. And if you're really worried about being tracked, I'd recommend just shutting off your phone when you have something private to do.

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Sniffing bluetooth traffic

I want to search around me for ppl with bluetooth phones or PDA's. Is there any good program for that? It should work with pocket pc 2003.
Have a nive day.
Let's see:
1) First post
2) Looking for sniffer software to detect people using bluetooth around you.
I'm thinking you're in the wrong place unless you can come up with a good reason to want to do this.
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blutooth sniffing / packet insertion / snarfing.
Bluesnarf will compile and run if used with the litmus toolkit..
bluesnarf
cool, but where do u get the prog from?
mate,
try this out; app is called "meeting point". i copied and pasted the details from the web; as seen below:
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Description:
This application is designed to search for -and to communicate with- other instances of itself running on other devices using Bluetooth.
When two or more MeetingPoints are within Bluetooth working distance, they will automatically exchange messages.
Meeting somebody for the first time and worried if you could identify the right person?
Need to meet a client on airport, bar, or another crowded place?
Just "tune" the same channel and it will fire an audible alarm when both meeting parties are close enough.
Do you want to exchange messages with anybody on working range? Just select the PUBLIC broadcast channel.
MeetingPoint works on many Operating Systems / platforms, such as PalmOS, Windows Mobile 2003, Windows 9x/NT/2000/XP and smartphones Symbian Series 60.
Every time a Bluetooth device is found, MeetingPoint communicates with it and attempts to perform a handshake. If the contacted device is also running MeetingPoint, and is "tuned" in the same channel, they will exchange messages and its users will hear an alarm notifying of the arrival of a new message.
MeetingPoint uses Bricenter's FDE (Fast Discovery Engine). FDE algorithm is based on statistical probabilities, and works well in the real world.
In a real situation, devices launch MeetingPoint at a random time and far away from the actual meeting place. When they enter the "meeting zone", their Bluetooth states are "shuffled" enough and, according to statistical probabilities, the "contact time" should be minimal. This is a critical feature designed specially for cases were people are moving.
MeetingPoint will redefine "bluetoothing" to a new level.
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cheers
robson
bluesnarf
ok thats cool, but what about the forced entry abilities that 'snarf claims to have? i think the only way to protect myself from it is to understand how it works.
Smiley
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i think the only way to protect myself from it is to understand how it works.
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How about turning off Bluetooth?! :lol:
No, seriously..
I don't consider bluesnarfing and bluejacking such a big deal, but it would be fun to try it..
Lemme know it you find "bluesnarf1.0_ARM.cab" or something..

What was imate or microsoft thinking...

... when they chose to hide the GPS application by default?
After a long time I figured out how to enable it through the registry.
But I am wondering WHY it was disabled and HOW inexperienced users would find hot to do this. (In the manual, it says "Goto Setting and click on the system tab"). Ofcourse it doesn't exist!!!!!
Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:
Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx
xphone said:
Can you please point me to the registy hack that enables this?
Thx
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Sure, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38314
It has instructions.
For me, I also had to delete the"Redirect" entry.
Andrew
knowsleyroader said:
Microsoft ? Thinking ?
ROFLMAO ! Good one m8. :lol:
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Oh har har. :x
Microsoft did not hide the app setting. It was an i-mate choice. Microsoft does not hide any of the settings on Windows mobile. It's a pure OEM choice.
And why did they hide it? Possibly so the clueless newbies don't stumble upon it and think 'gasp! It's got a GPS too!', spend money on maps, and then discover that it doesn't have GPS, and the complain to customer support about false advertising etc. etc.
Perhaps they did hide it so that real clever people can find and tell proudly ro pthers that they have found a great 'new' feature. A feel good marketing trick for early adaptors?
i agree with snorbaard,
cos M$ make a generic operating system, there is no reason a universal type device could actually be manufactured with GPS hardware, i would then imagine the oem would have the gps visable.
what does it do then?
What makes me laugh is that I watched MS' public presentation of WM2005, and that GPS data sharing was one of the main features they mentioned.. and at first no trace of that
Just enables redirecting data received on a COM port from a GPS receiver to another COM port that will allow multiple connections from different programs. So you can run TomTom, VisualGPS and GPS Tuner at the same time
Otherwise the COM port would only accept one simultaneous connection.
I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave
Paragon said:
I believe the real reason it is there, and is hidden, is that it is not for end users to use in anyway, but for developers to be able to easily grab GPS info for use in their third party applications.
Dave
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Actually, Kilrah is correct, its a new feature of wm5 that allows multiple programs to access the com port simultaneously. If you wanted to use different apps that used the gps simultaneously, like tom tom navigator or pocket streets with say a program like navizon, it wouldn't have been possible w/ wm2003, but with wm2005 it works. I've heard that it was disabled because its not complete. I've used it and it occasionally requires a reset to regain access to the com port my gps uses. It is not in any way related to the e911 GPS reciever build into the phone, and cannot be used with it.
-Sess-
"...you might as well paint yourself yellow, run around like a maniac and call yourself banana man..."
Hi,
will i need to do this reg hack to get tomtom working?
or only if i wanna use mutiple gps systems?
cheers

FIREWALL, do we need one? howgood is standerd securty?

Hi Guys
Is there a good firewall that we can use with the universal? Do we really need one?
when i browse the web on my Exec i use it over wifi so is that safe, (my home is protected BUT what about the free HOTSPOTS in the city centre <I trust star bucks with my coffee-do I trust them with my internet security?
Would any of you guys use your PDA's webpage to buy something from a website (ebay) or even online banking?
Im not to fused about someone hacking my PDA through my wifi/internet connection, come on the way I look at it, if some one is that good Im sure they have better things to hack then mine! lol
Im more concerned about if I am going to log onto ebay's webpage how secure is my information while its being sent from My PDA browser to there server?
IL appreciate everyone’s thoughts on this!
YES VIJAY that includes you as well,
GUYS KEEP YOUR REPLIES IN RELATION TO THIS THREAD, if you want to talk about your aunty janes cats dogs friends sisters leg, start another thread!)
You don't need one.
Ward said:
You don't need one.
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could you explain why, please?
@ WARD
why dont we need one? because you say so? lol
come on mate you can not give a one sentence reply and walk away from this, do you know how long it has taken me to write the post?
unless you a allsinging alldancing knowit all---------, well even if you are, give a better reply then "you dont need one"
or dont post at all.
you dont need one
You don't need a firewall now, because:
a) No tools for the PPC are really available at the moment, and
b) What exactly are they going to do when they hack in?
c) More importantly, you won't FIND any firewalls for Windows Mobile.
But as to the question of how safe is the information being sent to eBay; well, Pocket IE (Internet Explorer Mobile) is based off IE 5 and 6, with the same security levels. So if you access something with that little lock icon on, you're pretty secure.
If not, you're taking the same risk as normal browsing.
OK guys come on give better answers then "you dont need one"
we are not all mind readers,
:?:
breakit down, whywe dont need one?
how safe is your data when its sent from your device?
try to read my intial thread and reply to the points in there,
I am sure that you are not naive to think we dont need one because our networks tell its its safe or because microsoft does,
How many times has microsoft security been compermised?
Networks- remmber t-mobile? when there servers where being hacked (one good thing that came out of that was pairs hiltons EMAILS! along with the secrect service but with parisss its was more of like many online service providers, T-Mobile.com requires users to answer a "secret question" if they forget their passwords. For Hilton's account, the secret question was "What is your favorite pet's name?" By correctly providing the answer, any internet user could change Hilton's password and freely access her account. and her pet dog name is!!! Chihuahua
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/12/hacker_penetrates_t-mobile/ )
@ snorbaard
thanks dude
N2h, you're being rather rude, so I would have expected a lot more "you don't need one" replies by now just to spite you. I'll answer your question first, and then detail why I believe you're being rather rude.
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What you're asking about isn't really a firewall. A firewall is used to prevent certain communications either coming into a machine, or going out of it. E.g. a firewall could be placed on outbound port 80 to prevent users from browsing 99% of the web, or a firewall can and should be placed on inbound port 139 to stop some older netbios 'attacks'.
What you're really asking about is whether the communication you do via your PocketPC - over wifi - is 'secure' in that others can't access your information. The answer to that isn't a simple yes/no - it will depend on a few things.
The first thing to make sure as that the access point you're using has WEP (Wireless Encryption Protocol) enabled. The bigger the key, the better. This will mean that 'over the air', your information will be encrypted. Anybody who would 'snoop' that information from the air will need a LOT of data, and a reasonably fast machine, to get the WEP key.
The next thing to make sure is that if the information you're sending is rather sensitive, that you send this information to a site which is using SSL. SSL encrypts your data on your PocketPC itself, all the way through the WiFi router/access point, over the internet, bouncing off of satellites - whatever, until it reaches the destination website where the data is decrypted again. The odds of anybody cracking that signal are *very* slim. It can be done, but it takes ages and ages on multiple computers for even the simplest of SSL encryptions. The 'dumb' way to check whether the site uses SSL is to see if the URL starts with "https". The 'proper' way is to check if the padlock icon is 'locked' in PIE (left of the address bar).
The third thing, if you're using e-mail, is to use an e-mail encryption application, such as PGP. I'm not aware if any exist for PocketPC, but I'm sure they do. These basically encrypt your message in a way that it can still be sent by plain e-mail. The recipient then decrypts the message again on their end. Based on the encryption method used and the length of the message, it would take quantum computers to decrypt it to anything meaningful.
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For those wondering whether you do indeed need a Firewall - no, you don't. You may wish to look into some basic BlueTooth protection if you leave that on a lot, but other than that there are no real intrusion points for a PocketPC that you'd have to be worried about.
Microsoft may turn the PocketPC into some ueberplatform in the future which would make it more vulnerable, or maybe they learned their lesson and they'll keep things fairly secure - who knows.
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Now then.. as to why you're being rude...
First.. your post - what's with the bold blue text? Do you think it would get people's attention easier? Just makes it more difficult to read.
Second... you address a specific person, vijay555 - who is a very busy person. But even if he wasn't, it's a bit presumptious of you that 1. he would be reading this, 2. he would be interested in replying at all.
Third... you presume that people would go off-topic, in your original post (in large red type, at that). Why not have a bit more faith in fellow man and see what replies roll in, first? Then if people go off-topic, point it out and ask that they try and address the issue you raised in your post.
Fourth... when somebody does answer your post, even if it is a rather short reply, you tell them to either post a better reply, or not reply at all. Don't be surprised if many people will interpret this in a way that will make them not want to reply to any of your posts at all.
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Edit: and such is the cost of typing long replies - other people reply before you
zeboxxxxxxxxxxxxxx lol
thatsmade me laugh :lol:
thanks mate
FROM ZEBOX (sorryabout the caps hope i dont hurt anyones feeling)
Now then.. as to why you're being rude...
First.. your post - what's with the bold blue text? Do you think it would get people's attention easier? Just makes it more difficult to read.
dude I LIKE USING COLOURS lol
Second... you address a specific person, vijay555 - who is a very busy person. But even if he wasn't, it's a bit presumptious of you that 1. he
would be reading this, 2. he would be interested in replying at all.
tust me he gets around!
Third... you presume that people would go off-topic, in your original post (in large red type, at that). Why not have a bit more faith in fellow man and see what replies roll in, first? Then if people go off-topic, point it out and ask that they try and address the issue you raised in your post.
Fourth... when somebody does answer your post, even if it is a rather short reply, you tell them to either post a better reply, or not reply at all. Don't be surprised if many people will interpret this in a way that will make them not want to reply to any of your posts at all.
all in one, the amount of threads iv read where the converstion has gone off topic----------- so had to make that clear,
andbeing honest Im having a lugh so i dont want anyone to take it personaly if Imake a checky comment,
and zeboxx this ones just for you
You still don't need a firewall for your Pocket PC.
A firewall in the sense I understand it is a filtering application which brackets network access: rejecting unsolicited packet, applying appication based rules and optionally, performing some filtering on incoming content.
You don't need one, because: there is very little need to restrict application access to the network - malicious apps exist, but its so difficult for them to gain a foothold on your PPC without you knowing about it. So on a clean PPC, a firewall does nothing useful. Dropping unsolitcited packets is nice, but your PPC is mobile - not always connected and therefore of extremely low risk of network intrusion - AFAIK, I've never even heard of a case.
Save your money and CPU and carry on. P.S. PPC AntiViruses are similarly useless, don't listen to PR hype.
@@ ward
Ward thanks for that between you and snorbaard my questionshave been answerd
regarding firewalls and website security!
thanks dude
ward, zeobox Suggested that i was rude to you andmay have hurt your feeling , well my apologies hope we can b friends :lol: lol
cheers bud
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"c) More importantly, you won't FIND any firewalls for Windows Mobile."
AIRSCANNER has one, however, its not currently for WM5 yet
Here:-
http://airscanner.com/downloads/firewall/firewall.html
Keep a close watch on AIRSCANNER for the WM5 version though
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ZeBoxx
How to protect your PPC when you're surfing at free hotspots?
I believe that the response should be "You don't need a firewall for your WM5 device - yet."
It's very possible that there are vulnerabilities present in WM5 O/S that simply have not been found yet. There may even be vulnerabilities in WM5 that allow people to reset your device remotely, edit and remove information, etc.
Why would there be vulnerabilities in WM5?
Firstly, its made by Microsoft, and Microsoft has a very bad track record when it comes to this type of thing. Secondly, even if all preventions towards vulnerabilities were taken by Microsoft, it's always possible for one smart hacker to link together something that nobody has ever thought about before. Basically, vulnerabilities are always possible.
If there are vulnerabilities in WM5, why havent I heard about it yet?
Currently the number of devices running WM5 are very small. Theyr also very new, and thus hackers havent really begun to try. It only takes one good enough hacker to do it, though.
Therefore I don't think ruling out firewalls as being irrelevant to WM5 devices is the right way to go about it. Currently, theyr not needed, but who knows? In a months time we might all be scrambling for a firewall as some worm runs riot deleting our files..
It would probably be nice to have a firewall available, anyway. 8)
Just thought I would post to point out that when you go online using GPRS most service providers give you a NAT connection which is in practice the same as a firewall. No incoming connections are allowed, you don't have a public IP address.
This is largly because if you had a public IP all the viruses on the net looking for unsecure Windows machines would flood out your GPRS connection and use up all your credit without you doing anything.
chinnybob said:
Just thought I would post to point out that when you go online using GPRS most service providers give you a NAT connection
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Very true - also, nearly all wireless hotspots will do the same thing, generally decreasing the amount of potential hackers to only other users sharing the same hotspot.
If your device ever gets hacked while using a hotspot, look around for the guy with the laptop trying to look the other way. :twisted:
As I understand it, there's built in facilities for port redirection and monitoring in Windows Mobile already. Whether or not you'd wish to use it for anything is down to a coder.
As everyone is saying, there are two distinct issues I see here:
1. Are your communications secure between PDA and Server?
2. Is your PDA secure to external intrusions?
Question 1 is addressed above. Use appropriate good sense, keep an eye out for SSL and https and always be weary of transmitting anything sensitive over an open channel. Would I use my PDA to buy something over the net? Probably not - I barely trust my PC browser (and I wrote and secured it myself), and although there's little reason to trust PIE less, that's not a high state of confidence. I always half expect to get cheated/identity theft-ed over the net. But use good common sense, reliable traders and be weary of all open connections that you don't control.
Question 2.
Intrusions. Again, as everyone is saying - as of now, there's not an enormous amount of damage that could be done to your PDA even if someone could stomp all over it without your knowledge. Worst case, you need to hard reset, and someone steals all your personal info.
However, there aren't many well known exploits that you need to worry about. But, that probably means that there are exploits known to those who would be interested in you.
However, since you're wifi roaming, it's likely your IP is dynamic. Somebody would have to have an idea of where you are and be particularly interested in finding you on the net to track you down. (although that's easy enough to do if they know your habits. Server logs give a wealth of info for free! I can see many visitors to my website directly from warez sites. If I wanted to backtrace to an ISP, a server or a user, the info is there in front of me)
So, someone can find you on the net. They then need to identify you as using a PDA they can exploit. They have to know exploits. They can then get access to your system. What's the worst that can happen? As everyone says, be weary of carrying very sensitive info on you phone, at least unencrypted. They're small things prone to theft and loss. If you would worry if it was stolen from your hand, don't put it on there, or encrypt it. Doubley so if you're using public wifi.
There are exploits to take advantage of your system. I'm working on stuff that could easily be classified as a trojan, and there is live code, years old, demonstrating the techniques.
Best advice: be careful. Your PDA is naked compared to your PC (which is firewalled, anti virused, and anti-spyed already. right?) Just because no one is interested in looking at your PDA's undies, doesn't mean you should flash them around. Use good sense on all public networks. However, given the hardware limitations of our PDAs, I'm inclined to say, better to leave it unprotected but not at risk (ie not carry highly sensitive info), then have CPU intensive protection that's counterproductive and unlikely to be needed most of the time.
Others would have different priorities. You have to judge what you have at stake.
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VIJAY thanks for the reply your thoughts are allways much appericated.
when you say you have secured your own browser is it a programme that's available on your site or a 1of thing that you did? someone else advised me that netfront 3.3 (or what ever the latest version is) is more secure then ie any thoughts on that.
thanks
N2h
p.s zeooooooobox guess ur sorry ass was wrong after all.
N2h said:
VIJAY thanks for the reply your thoughts are allways much appericated.
when you say you have secured your own browser is it a programme that's available on your site or a 1of thing that you did? someone else advised me that netfront 3.3 (or what ever the latest version is) is more secure then ie any thoughts on that.
thanks
N2h
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He said quite specifically his PC browser. (i.e. not a browser on his phone)
As someone said earlier, just make sure the little padlock is there. SSL encryption is good enough for most things.

GOOD anti theft software for X1

Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
qritikal said:
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
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SmartProtect is for free. You can find it on XDA. This is nothing special nor has it anything to do with FBI. It's basically about catching incoming messages, recognizing SIM change and determining GPS Position. Basic stuff. There are a lot of these apps out there. The developers are just to bad to produce something very good, or I haven't found it yet, which is more likely. That's why I opened this thread.
Smartphone tracker
Sprite Terminator works well
WIMP is what you need. I have it installed on mine in stealth mode.
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
RemoteTracker
Firefall! said:
Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
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Remotetracker is very nice, afik it has most of your needs , and I see it is not listed for removing in control panel so it is hidden actually. Opensorce and free! try it http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/
Firefall! said:
The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
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The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
jackleung said:
The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
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Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
arnisv said:
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
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SW that needs a portal to see your location sucks. If they're bankrupt, your phone is lost. Good anti-theft SW detects SIM change and notifies you - you will find this in my 1st post in necessary features. It means that the SW checks the SIM on boot and if it'a different, it sends an SMS to a predefined number. Obviously, the SMS will be sent over the thief's number and as the receiver you will see his number then. That's the main point of anti-theft-SW.
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Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
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Well for me all i wanted it for was incase I lose my xperia i can find it back.
Its installed and all program links, remove programs from the list and other detection are gone (stealth mode only way you notice it is if you go into the windows directory when you hook it up to the computer ... meanwhile its some funny name that you would never think its that)
It texts you everytime the sim is changed to give your their new number + gps cordinates
Thats basically it for me with my needs for lojack
I'm using RemoteTracker. Best about it, that you can make it Hardreset safe if you cook it into your ROM.
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
enterfornone said:
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
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Don't get it , why not using a free open source program, when it works just fine and is very very smart? there you can make changes if you need, can or have money to make some one do it for you!
I see your suggestions vary. I have installed Sprite Terminator meanwhile and so far it seems to be the best one among all that were mentioned - if it works the way it should. I have been abroad, so I didn't want to test the features because I don't have unlimited money cheat enabled in my life But I will test it tomorrow. UI and features look great though, uninstallation is password-protected and configuration is simple and effective. I will post my experiences as soon as I've tested it regarding GPS performance and command processing.
why not try smart phone tracker?
it does fine...and its free too
I've tried the GPS of Sprite Terminator now and I'm very pleased but there is one disadvantage, the link provided in the message uses a Website of the manufacturer to display the location (using Google Maps). Direct link to Google Maps would be far better... But apart from that, it's just perfect!

WAMP-like (AAMP?)

Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
Ruxton said:
First, why? what's your use case? You're going to host websites to the internet off your 1Ghz mobile device? interesting thought but it'd be cheaper and less stress to just pay that web host.
Second, that'd be one hell of a way to chew through your battery?
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Thirdly, you will have high bills for your transfer and users will have to wait ages for page to load.
Ahh and if you really want to do this, then you shouldn't think about neither Apache, MySQL nor PHP. You should use, what you have onboard: sqlite + Java (or maybe C) + some simple HTTP server (Java or C).
It wouldn't necessarily be for a professional site so to speak, more or less to fool around with.
For example (even though having use of facebook renders this completely useless) a blog hosted directly from the phone. Or with password protection, an over-the-web ftp to add apps to your phone from anywhere should you not have your cord on you.
Just little things to play with.
Nice addition Brut. But to clear the confusion, by saying WAMP, I was simply using it as a reference tool to get the point I was trying to make across. I didn't mean actually waste time making a work-around apache server on the droid, but simply a program that uses what's available on the phone to achieve the same ends.
Thanks for the input gents.
@Ruxton as far as chomping away at the battery, I wouldn't suspect it would use a high amount for what the uses are. Now to host some high-traffic sort of thing like google.com for example, ha, there really wouldn't be a chance to use the phone before it died. But as stated in my last post, little things for small uses. Of course, I didn't specify that in the topic start.
http://code.google.com/p/i-jetty/
5 seconds (really!) searching on Google ;-) It's everything you need and I doubt you will find something better
What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
LookAlive said:
What kills me, is I searched google for such apps using keywords (no lie, straight from my cookies) "Turning android into webserver" "host webserver from android" and "webserver app for android".
And then you come back with this. How peachy.
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I'm quite sure that I requested "android http server", but now I don't see that site in search results I think it was a miracle! ;-D
EDIT:
Ahh, I have mistaken, it is right on top of results ;-)
http://www.google.com/search?q=android+http+server
The magic behind that miracle was that one acronym, http. Had I only used that.. lol
Another problem is connecting to your phone from rest of the world. Does your telecom give you external IP? Is it static (but this could be fixed using dynamic DNS)?
MediaWiki on Android?
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
DesireOwner10 said:
Hi...
I'm interested in an "AAMP" too as I have lots of information stashed away on my laptop via MediaWiki running on WAMP. I'd love to be able to carry it around with me on my mobile phone by uploading it from my laptop's MySQL DB onto the phone (in my case, HTC Desire) if it can run "AAMP".
I just downloaded i-Jetty and what I can do with it isn't entirely apparent. Is it something that would run an AAMP and therefore allow me to do the above?
Cheers..
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Not sure why the thank button is so close to the quote button... but oh well, I digress.
Have you considered dumping static pages from your mediawiki setup and then pushing those to the phone? If you don't need to edit the content, then having the full db backend on the phone is pointless. Just set up a script to dump the all the pages in an elegant way (wget comes to mind but there is probably a better way) and then bundle them for transfer to the phone.
Thanks for reply! Sorry for delay (floods tend to take you off the grid).
Not a bad idea about dumping static pages..but I would like to be able to navigate around & search through the mediawiki. Anyone have thoughts on AAMPing a mediawiki?
AAMPing a MediaWiki?
Anyone have any further thoughts or smart ideas on pulling this off?
Have you tried PAW Server?
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Thanks for the reply. PAW server is an interesting bit of kit and certainly is a demonstration of what the device can serve up.
However..it isn't exactly what I'm trying to achieve. Basically...I need something which will run the php files and the MySQL database which are what MediaWiki is comprised of.
Whilst I could simply generate static pages from my Wiki's & read them directly on the phone, this means I lose all the advantages of links & searching which is one of the reasons why I put my notes in a MediaWiki to start off with.
So..anyone know of something like an AAMP?
LookAlive said:
Has anybody seen, or considered developing a program similar to WAMP (Windows Apache MySQL PHP) for the Android?
I've always been interested in hosting my own sites, and usually purchased the hosting simply because I never leave a computer on all day.
But given I leave my phone on all day, who's to say there can't be an application developed to host and constantly stream a website from the phone itself?
Would anybody be interested in developing something like this? I'd honestly throw down 10 bucks in android market for such a thing.
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Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
Android web server
yashade2001 said:
Botbrew-Basil is on play store !
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WHAT YOU NEED IS 'KSWEB SERVER' --> (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.kslabs.ksweb&hl=en)
FIND IT ON ANDROID MARKET
PHP + MYSQL

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