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Initial A2DP findings

Using the M3100 with the itech clip S35 Headset
firstly i've been using the fit4cat tweaker which has an A2DP quality improvememt tweak - unfortunately the tweak makes the quality worse so i've tuned it off and the music quality is not too bad when playing through my car stereo. However, I need to try some decent headphnes with the unit because the ones supplied sound very tinny!
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
Thirdly, I have the S35 outputting through my car stereo. When people are calling me they can hear an echo (of themselves speaking as the sound comes out through the car speakers). There is some sort of delay i suppose but this is very annoying. I'm not sure why its happening because when I tried the headset using my Sony Ericsson W800i there was no such echo!
therfore, is the echo problem an A2DP thing (as the w800i does not support it and this works ok) or is it a m3100 thing? To test this I could turn off A2DP and ry the headset again - is this possible?
any suggestions appreciated

I have the Jabra BT620s headphones and I have indentical problems.
After install all works well but as soon as you disconnect media player just plays via the phone speaker

at least you guys get it to work once. WMP never plays through my iPAQ bluetooth headset. AVRCP controls work fine though. TCPMP plays fine through the bluetooth headset as long as I pair it up before I execute TCPMP. This is exactly how it worked with my 8125.
The WMP issue is very strange and is likely yet another example of the lack of QA testing in the A2DP portion of the TyTN's implementation. I would expect that these issues will all be fixed in a subsequent TyTN ROM update.

I'm getting on ok with this
quality is pretty good both using the headset with my own sony ear buds. Vast improvement over the itech supplied ear buds.
A2DP - no skipping during normal playback and it works well - quality is not an issue through the car stereo either - not bad at all . I've even been listening to music over A2DP and running sat nav using a GPS BT receiver. A slight pause in music when GPS connects but then all runs well.
My only 2 gripes are:-
1. When you disconnect or go out of range of the headset, it reconnect perfectly with the phone application. This isn't the case with the wireless stereo. I have to enter BT settings, uncheck the wireless stereo setting, save then recheck the setting before it reconnects. Slightly annoying but accesptable (for now)
2. the echo using the headset through my car stereo. People calling me can hear themselves again (about a 0.5 second delay) through the car speakers! Just to repeat my earlier post, this does not happen with my W800i. not sure if its an A2DP problem or something else.

Similarly here, I don't seem to be able to make A2DP (and the handsfree profile, for that matter) work.
Using HTC and an Itech clip, I am able to pair the "wireless stereo" and then play music for some 10 seconds on the GS Player, after which the Wireless Stereo symbol disappears from the top bar and the connection is interrupted. I actually believe that the Itech clip is 'shut off', as I have to turn it on again.
When I try to reconnect the headset, it just won't work and the whole machine is slowed down. Only a soft reset helps.
I hope this is a ROM problem (and not mine) and it'll be fixed soon...

WMP and the Itech clip work fine for me, with the current German ROM.

a2dp issues w/th Hermes
With the CHT9000 WWE rom I had the wireless stereo drop off after about 1 minute, then I would have to reconnect. I flashed to the other dopod WWE ROM (latest) and the problem is gone....sound is comparable to my prophet. Reg tweaks suggested in other forums definetely make the sound quality worse for either ROM version. I think further updated ROM's will improve A2DP reliability (or someone may find a reg hack)...as with the prophet A2DP it just takes time.

Hi guys, I've got the vario ii and the Sony Ericsson HBH-610.
I can add the headset fine and make calls through it, but I don't know how to get the music in wmp to play through it.
If anyone has a few mins spare and could explain it for me I would be really grateful

Headsets..HBH 610...
With my CHT 9000 I use an OMIZ 5660...works great for calls and wireless stereo. I don't have any other headset to compare it to (since I only have used this brand)....I believe that if your "options" do not list wireless stereo then you can't use the A2DP function on your device, at least as it is designed to be used.
I'm not aware of a one-piece headset that supports A2DP that is available (all should have either 2 headphones or two wired ear plugs)..

THE ONLY WAY, I FIND :
I have a 590A Plantronics Bluetooth HeadSet
You must refresh Services of your iTech or your Plantronics !
Go Parameters, Bluetooth, Select your Headset, Refresh.
Then reselect services and Save !
Each time you lost the link (Bluetooth turn off or ...) you will have to Refresh,reselect and Save !
I am searching for a Solve but not find another !

I forget something else !
It is the same thing with my Bluetooth GPS (GNS).

I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix

I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix

I have a spv m3100 and jabra bt620. They both work like a dream most of the time apart from having to go into bluetooth settings each time I want to connect to the stereo headset option.
I have noticed that when in my garden or at home (a quiet environment probably) that I have excellent streaming but when I am walking around, particularly in built up areas like shopping centres, high streets, tube trains, that there is some loss in the streaming which would seem to point towards some kind of interference.
Why the wireless stereo is set as mono as standard I can't understand. I'm sure its to do with improving the streaming quality, but they are supposed to be STEREO!!! Also I set the quality to 58 instead of 48 and there was a definite loss in streaming quality so I switched back to 48.
The AVRCP also works brilliantly in WMP.
The wireless connection also plays havoc with the bluetooth stereo connection with the buffering of stereo constantly dropping. Also noticed that AVRCP wont work with TCPMP, but as there seems to be some major issues with TCPMP and the Tytn I have uninstalled it for the time being until the guys at CorePacket come up with a fix

So far A2DP has worked fine for me with my Nokia HS-12W. I have applied some registry settings and optimised my SD card and so far it has played with hardly a skip. Definitely better than my previous BA with WM5.

daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks

hutton118 said:
daddyo said:
Secondly, when you first pair the device, media player plays through the headset ok. If you then go out of range, when you return the headset re-pairs ok for the phone but the media player doesn't and it plays through the loudspeaker. You have to enter BT settings and recheck the stereo music option to have the sound through the headset again. Anybody getting this with the same or other headsets?
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This is the biggest problem for me with my M3100 at the moment. I'm guessing it will only be fixed by an updated\alternative ROM(?!), any ROM's out there I could try that might get round this problem??
Thanks
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This is probably headset dependent because with my Nokia HS-12W if i need to reconnect i just press the Audio button and it re-establishes the A2DP connection. No going to BT settings at all.

Interesting, can you just confirm what you mean by the Audio button. Is that just hitting 'Play' in WMP?
Thanks

No, the Nokia has a Music key (not Audio, my mistake) which switches from A2DP to the built-in radio. So if i have lost the BT connection pushing the Music key to select the Audio player will re-establish the connection and music is streamed to the headset. You will see the A2DP icon on the today screen when it has connected and get the chime in the headset.

Ok, thanks for that.
Just one last point, if the connection is lost while music is streaming, does the audio switch to the phone speaker instead??
My problem is I'll be listening to music on the subway then or some reason I'll loose the connection (interferance, low battery...whatever) and immediately music starts coming out the speaker, much to my embarrassment!
Thanks again!

BT Headset works for calls but not music??

I have a 8125 with a Nokia BH-600 bt headset. It works great when talking on the phone but I really want to listen to music too...
Is it possible to play music through the Nokia BT headset?
I have Media Player, Sound Recorder, and the CORE movie player but none of them play sound through the Nokia BH-600 headset! I also have a Moto H700 if that makes a difference.
Thanks!

I am not an expert on this topic so someone can correct me if im wrong, but you cannot play music through your bluetooth headset unless the headset is A2DP compatible. You also need the A2DP hack that can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263735&page=7
Anyway, to get an A2DP headset, look on eBay; you can normally find them for around 60-80 shipped, for a quality one. The hack is a cab file that just needs to be installed before pairing the headset.
Hope that helps.

Being dumb here... how does this hack work?

I posted the link in my above post. Basically, just download the hack, copy it over to you phone, and click on it using file explorer and it will install. I am pretty sure it just adds to registry tweaks and DLL certificates, but I am not 100% sure. All i know is that is works great! After the install and a soft reset, when you pair a A2DP headet, it will have the option for setting as wireless stereo. Take a look at the thread above for more information.

Ah, so then any audio that that gets produced on the phone gets streamed on to the BT headset?
Sounds promising. I was wondering if there was a way to get navigation commands to go through my car BT kit.

I also wanted to be able to do that, as I have a bluetooth speakerphone in my car. I do no think this is possible with just a regular bluetooth headset or speakerphone.
However, I do think if you have an A2DP headset the navigation sound will come through. I am not sure if your car kit is a speaker phone or a headset, but if you prefer a speakerphone in the car (as I do), I highly doubt it's possible, because I dont think anyway speakerphone is A2DP enabled. Nevertheless, people on this forum have done more amazing things so search around, you may find something.
And yes you are correct, after the pairing, any audio that gets produced by your phone will come via the headset (hence my thinking for navigation working with A2DP headsets)

Hmm, i have got a parrot ck3000. Not sure if it is A2DP compatible. Is this hack/cab file uninstallable? lol, im asking so many questions! I think i might just give it a try.

Heres a question (as these forums are a mess and i can never find anything), Is A2DP included in any of the latest roms? I am running the AKU2 rom that t-mobile last released, so i assume that some of the cooked roms are miles better.

your options
There are 2 ways to approach this issue:
1.) A2DP hack or updated ROM (for the best possible sound quality) needs an A2DP compatible headset/headphones or home BT transceiver.
2.) Mono BT hack for BT headset (you lose Voice Dial) has the lesser sound quality of the mono audio channel (the one you hear when on a phone call) See this tutorial for more details and options.
I highly recommend any and all BlueTooth articles by Menneisyys one of our Moderators.
See his articles on BlueTooth and more here.

Awsome! Thanks for the link to that article. I will give the BTAudioNav a try to see if this works how i want it to! Coolio! Thanks

Ah balls it. It looks like its just another constant streaming program. Shame, i would have loved to just get the commands to be said and then the radio wont be contantly cut out.

my 2cents
Just installed this .cab on my wizard (o2 xda mini s, G3 un-updated at all.)
Works a treat, I'd foolishly bought a a2dp headset without checking compatibility and now it is compatable.

BT voice commands with TomTom?

Is it possible to send voice commands from TOM TOM to a bluetooth enabled device?
What are the settings? I can get the voice commands to work with my Jabra headset but not my receiver...
I just got a nifty car receiver that takes A2DP music and phone calls. GPS routing over BT would complete it!

I did some more testing.
It seems that the tomtom signal comes over the A2DP bluetooth signal.
So on my car stereo, the tomtom commands will come through, only if I have the stereo on bluetooth mode. Not the best if you wish to listen to the radio.
Is there a way to force the tomtom commands over the HCP (Hands Free Profile)? That way the voice commands will be forced to the car stereo and interrupt radio play.
kww

there used to be a registry patch or program that peeps used to use to allow them to listen to music through the BT headset. This was before A2DP existed hence the need, most peeps dismissed it because it was mono and poor quality audio (like listening to your music over a phone line,) but I have a feeling it is exactly what you are looking for !

I have downloaded a couple of programs, but they don't seem to work.
What is needed is some sort of program where you can pick the software to rout the audio either to a2dp or HFP...

the software im thinking of gave the choice of routing ALL system audio (including music) via headset profile bluetooth or not, at your choice !! trust me, it is what your looking for.

Problem is, most of those programs are/were pre WM5 and don't work with WM6, BTaudionav is an example. Regardless, if you come up with a software title, let me know.
ice_coffee said:
the software im thinking of gave the choice of routing ALL system audio (including music) via headset profile bluetooth or not, at your choice !! trust me, it is what your looking for.
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you should search in the forum for the universal, that is where I would have seen it, as that is the phone I had at the time, It shipped with WM5 but was a long time coming with a rom that supported A2DP, in the mean time these programs popped up !

just stumbled accross this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778&highlight=a2dp

I am going to read through the entire thread, but the line of code that says:
"UseJointStereo"=dword:00000000
just turns off the A2DP; 00000001 enables.
Further, it routs all A2DP to mono.
Got through the thread, it really doesn't do what I want.
What I am trying to do is to have music port to A2DP stereo of my car receiver as normal, and have TomTom audio commands to the HFP.
That way you can play music over bluetooth, and when tomtom audio starts, it will pause music play and the tomtom command can be heard loud and clear.
As of right now here is what I can do:
TomTom audio commands via A2DP to car stereo (makes for a boring ride)
Music via A2DP to car stereo
Play both music and TomTom over A2DP, but music player is NOT interupted when a TomTom audio command comes through
I am going to search the tomtom forums, but I doubt I will have any luck there.
ice_coffee said:
just stumbled accross this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778&highlight=a2dp
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I see what your trying to do, and it is true there is nothing that quite manages it, the problem is that tomtom would have to be written or modified to use HFP when the commands are played, the best you could hope for is to reduce the volume of your audio to ie 70% and leave tomtom at 100%, this will make the tomtom commands really standout when they are played.

That would be a good compromise, thanks.
fwiw, I have the question into tomtom support, but doubt if those monkeys can do anything...
ice_coffee said:
the best you could hope for is to reduce the volume of your audio to ie 70% and leave tomtom at 100%, this will make the tomtom commands really standout when they are played.
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I hope you get a result, but as you already know, their support is useless

I have read a bit about mort script. I have to learn more, and perhaps there might be a way...

Try Teksoft BlueMusic, this routes all audio to headset.
I used to use it with Skype on the Athena, till I found Fring.

Bluetooth for audio output?? Can't get to work!

Hi,
I've got a 3xx series Plantronics headset and i've got a question about using it for more than JUST calls.
Can I use it for watching movies?? at the moment, when the movie plays, it automatically goes to loudspeaker, even whilst paired.
I know of something called A2DP, but I'm not sure that my BT headset is that... Can I install something or change some setting to make the music/movie play through my present headset??
Thanks!!

A2dp is a stereo profile, should be active if you have a stereo headset and are listening to anything stereo on the phone. I've been having trouble getting A2DP to stay active on my phone as well, but I just read about a program called A2DP Toggle found Here seems to be working for me tho I'm not sure its what your looking for.

Well I don't own a stereo BT headset. Just a normal one-ear one.
I want to know if there is a way to port the movie/music sounds through it.
So I think its a bit different to your case. Anyone else?? Thanks

btw, I've used a simple bluetooth headset with my PC before and it ported all the sounds from the PC to my earpiece... so technically it should be the same case for phone? I hope there's a way...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=248774

Thanks jonasd,
It seems like its an old thread - any newer applications that are similar?
Does the toggle application for for your X1??

Help! Bluetooth never connects A2DP Stereo automatically !!

Hi! This issue has plagued me ever since i am using windows mobile. I own a TOUCH HD (though i think this issue is also with other windows mobiles) and a A2DP Stereo bluetooth headset from Sony.
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgu...ox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&um=1
Now here's the problem. When I pair the phone with the Headset, it pairs the 2 services HANDSFREE & WIRELESS STEREO. Then i can listen to music via the headset.
When i turn the headset off and then back on again, it switches on the HANDSFREE ONLY !! And i have to go thru the following process to turn on the WIRELESS STEREO again:
1. on phone, click on Bluetooth Devices
2. select the headset device to view the 2 services (handsfree and wirless stereo). Both are selected. Deselect the Wireless Stereo service.
3. SAVE
4. on phone, click on Bluetooth Devices
5. select the headset device to view the 2 services (handsfree and wirless stereo). Re-select the Wireless Stereo service.
6. SAVE
Then it works again and i can listen to my music again.
Its a very annoying process and I wish someone could help me to explain if there is a faster way? Does everyone also have to go thru this process or am i doing something wrong?
Does there exist a program that can automate this process or any other solution?
looking forward to replies!

there are more than one small app to make it easy.i found one that works on my HD. uploaded for you here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/207816065/13-BTaudioTransfer.cab
next time try and do a search....

thanks a lot! It actually works! cant imagine why microsoft creates an OS without this built in as standard !
thanks.

ronald_adi said:
Hi! This issue has plagued me ever since i am using windows mobile. I own a TOUCH HD (though i think this issue is also with other windows mobiles) and a A2DP Stereo bluetooth headset from Sony.
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgu...ox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&um=1
Now here's the problem. When I pair the phone with the Headset, it pairs the 2 services HANDSFREE & WIRELESS STEREO. Then i can listen to music via the headset.
When i turn the headset off and then back on again, it switches on the HANDSFREE ONLY !! And i have to go thru the following process to turn on the WIRELESS STEREO again:
1. on phone, click on Bluetooth Devices
2. select the headset device to view the 2 services (handsfree and wirless stereo). Both are selected. Deselect the Wireless Stereo service.
3. SAVE
4. on phone, click on Bluetooth Devices
5. select the headset device to view the 2 services (handsfree and wirless stereo). Re-select the Wireless Stereo service.
6. SAVE
Then it works again and i can listen to my music again.
Its a very annoying process and I wish someone could help me to explain if there is a faster way? Does everyone also have to go thru this process or am i doing something wrong?
Does there exist a program that can automate this process or any other solution?
looking forward to replies!
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I have a same problem with my car audio, but when i install this BT program in lower post they connect me only to handsfreee, and when i go to play music they disconnected my car BT audio.

Just for you interest - this does NOT make A2DP work.

Mirror site please!!!
KukurikU said:
there are more than one small app to make it easy.i found one that works on my HD. uploaded for you here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/207816065/13-BTaudioTransfer.cab
next time try and do a search....
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Can someone please mirror this download, my limit is up on.

Here is the source.
I got it downloaded, and here is the developers web site
http://trianglepowers.com/PPC
(sorry all, could not find an edit for my last post)

Pair your stereo headset and select the Heaset and Wireless Stereo profiles, this will work from start.
Next time you turn on your stereo headset it will only connect as standard headset (ie mono for phone calls)....
Just press the play/pause button on your headset and it will auto connect to A2DP stereo also.
Simple EH?

Tried that!
I have tried that, and do it on my laptop (another set and stereo profile only), it may be dependent on the headset you are using.
The Triangle Powers BT Stereo is mono output only, and made the audio quality poor on my HD. http://trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=52
I installed teksoft A2DP Toggle 1.1 this morning http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1885 and added it to the program button in TouchFlo, not the today screen. it seems to work fine if you press the button twice, better than 7 clicks. (My HD info in the signature, Telstra TouchFlo replaced by Standard HD)

GSamways said:
I got it downloaded, and here is the developers web site
http://trianglepowers.com/PPC
(sorry all, could not find an edit for my last post)
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Looks like promising software, I will play with it and update in few days with pros and cons

GSamways said:
I have tried that, and do it on my laptop (another set and stereo profile only), it may be dependent on the headset you are using.
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If pushing the Play/Pause does not connect a previously paired BT Stereo Headset to your HD then it is not a true A2DP profile headset.
See if you can get your hands on a pair of folding Sony DR-BT22 headphones.
True A2DP with built in mike to answer incoming calls. Bass is very good and full funtion with the HD.
Highly recommended.

ronald_adi said:
Hi! This issue has plagued me ever since i am using windows mobile. I own a TOUCH HD (though i think this issue is also with other windows mobiles) and a A2DP Stereo bluetooth headset from Sony.
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ronald_adi said:
Hmm! I pair the HD with a great bluetooth headphones from Sony I got in Tokyo recently (not the same as yours). I dont have any problem with the A2DP connection at all. I have perfect high audio definition thru to the headset.
Sorry not much help-but it may be the headset not the HD thats your problem!
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Agree
You guys are correct, the smaller headsets that try to share the Play/Answer/end button are probably the issue.
I have been using A2Dp Toggle 1.1 as mentioned and link above and it works great, no loss of sound noticed.
We should start an XDA (not just HTC) WiKi to list headsets that connect or not for WM5 and WM6.

HD Compatible Headphone
I have a Sony DR-BT50 headphone that works beautifully. The sound is brilliant for Music and particuarly movies that I have transferred from DVD to the HD with MP4HT4HD!
I never thought that i would watch a movie on a screen so small but the clarity is something else and the high audio signal with the bluetooth headphones make it a pleasure! Great for long layovers at airports etc.

Any in-ear types that work?
All the sets that I have seen posted as working are the full headphone (over ear) types, and this may again be a shared button thing.
Does anyone have / know of an in-ear / earbud type that works / connects correctly

A2DP Toggle 1.1
I dowmloade that A2DP Toggle 1.1 on my phone. I use HTC TYTN1 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional and this software gives hell to say the least.
When I connect it to my headset, it works fine BUT it does not pay MP3s on my headset. It keeps on saying ERR on the icon of the head speakers (the second icon form bluetooth icon). I even asked most of the technician but no one knows anythings. If anyone knows what my probles is, please rescue me!!!
I might be doing something, please help me guys

Toggle works for me!
I had the same problem, the triangle powers prog didn't work for me. In fact the headset icon was on but no playback.
The toggle 1.1 works, none of the funcitons described on it's website are available, setup and various icons are from the home page but HTC Touch HD home page doesn't support that.
Never the less, putting Toggle in my program list and using it toggles easy between phone speaker and headset. Like someone has already said, two clicks and we're in business from starting my van to getting music from my phone on the stereo. I'm happy enough with that.
I have a Pioneer stereo with Parat built in, so I get BT audio and Hands free calls. All seems to be working perfectly now. Thanks to this thread.