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So... is the LEO finally an Always-On device?

Hi everyone!
I'm having a tough time deciding whether to get an HD2 or a Nokia N900, mainly because of one main feature on the N900: As far as I can tell, the Nokia N900 allows you to stay online (Instant Messaging, VoIP) permanently, even when the device is in standby - so ICQ, Skype, SIP, MSN are all connected, and if you get a new message or a call, the device will notify you.
I haven't used many modern WinMo devices, so I'm not sure if anything similar to this is possible with WinMo 6.5 (I've used WM6.5 ROMs on my Prophet, but I'm guessing a lot of features were stripped out to make them run at all )... is it possible to do this on the Leo?
I want the device to _always_ be online - if there's WiFi it should connect to that, and if not then it should connect to cellular data. This should obviously also be automatic, so that I don't have to manually log onto the WiFi every time I get home or to university...
Is this use supported? Or would it be more of a hack that runs down the battery like crazy (IIRC you can turn on WiFi permanently, so that it doesn't turn off when you put the phone in standby - not sure if the apps would stay connected, though)...
Thanks in advance!

I think the HD used to turn wifi off when the phone went into standby (I don't think I ever used wifi), but it used to stay connected over 3g for IM and the like when you turned the phone off (stand by)

Oh really? I thought 3G was turned off too... well, I guess that's a step in the right direction.
Anyone know about WiFi and automatic switching?

By default the WIFI is switched off when in standby, but it's possible to change it.
However, having WIFI always on will drain the battery completly.
Regarding to the automatic change, no idea!

And there's no way to lower the WiFi signal strength enough so that it doesn't drain the battery? What if you set WiFi power mode to best battery? On my Prophet it's unusable because the signal is nearly nonexistant, but I was hoping that they'd have changed this for the HD2...
Ideally it'd lower the signal strength as far as possible without dropping the signal when in standby, and then power up to a sufficient speed when the device is actually on...

Wi-Fi only turns off if you want ot too. You can change the way Wi-Fi works in the settings and let it be always on, even if you turn off the screen.

Is this new on the Leo?
Does that drain the battery quickly? Or is it in a low-power mode?

Even with the Best battery setting it won't last too long, I'm afraid. Or, as you have said, it won't have good enough reception to actually connect to anything.
I have no idea how this is implemented in Nokias, it actually sounds like a kind of magic if you're saying it doesn't kill the battery.
I've never heard about an automatic switching solution (or even about the problem, for that matter). It's relatively easy to implement periodic polling but even that will have serious adverse effect on your battery.

bemymonkey said:
Is this new on the Leo?
Does that drain the battery quickly? Or is it in a low-power mode?
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It's been on WM since times immemorial - it's a registry setting, and there are programs that allow you to change it without manually tweaking your registry.
Yes, it does drain your battery, even in low-power mode.

vangrieg said:
Even with the Best battery setting it won't last too long, I'm afraid. Or, as you have said, it won't have good enough reception to actually connect to anything.
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Ah, so the Best Battery setting is still completely useless. Good to know.
vangrieg said:
I have no idea how this is implemented in Nokias, it actually sounds like a kind of magic if you're saying it doesn't kill the battery.
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I'm not quite sure myself, but that's what a few of the nice people over at talk.maemo.org told me . I just hope I didn't misinterpret what they were saying
vangrieg said:
I've never heard about an automatic switching solution (or even about the problem, for that matter). It's relatively easy to implement periodic polling but even that will have serious adverse effect on your battery.
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Meh. Think 12 hours is doable with polling?
vangrieg said:
It's been on WM since times immemorial - it's a registry setting, and there are programs that allow you to change it without manually tweaking your registry.
Yes, it does drain your battery, even in low-power mode.
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OK, so it's the same feature that's existed for a long time... I thought it was something new, that actually made sense (i.e. didn't drain the battery so frikken fast...).

Please note that I don't have HD2 myself, so I can only guess how it's going to work there.

Meh... you sounded so authoritative that I figured you must have one

bemymonkey said:
Ah, so the Best Battery setting is still completely useless. Good to know.
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Who says it's completely useless? It does save battery, I use this mode all the time on HD. Speed is lower though.
bemymonkey said:
Meh. Think 12 hours is doable with polling?
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It definitely should last 12 hours unless you poll every 5 seconds or so, but what will happen if it connects to Wi-Fi while in your pocket?

vangrieg said:
Who says it's completely useless? It does save battery, I use this mode all the time on HD. Speed is lower though.
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Oh. I thought you said there were problems with getting enough reception to connect
That's usually the case on my Prophet...
vangrieg said:
It definitely should last 12 hours unless you poll every 5 seconds or so, but what will happen if it connects to Wi-Fi while in your pocket?
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It's supposed to connect, and disconnect 3G to save on data costs (probably getting a plan with a 200mb cap...)

bemymonkey said:
Oh. I thought you said there were problems with getting enough reception to connect
That's usually the case on my Prophet...
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I think I said the Best Battery mode still drains your battery. A much lower power mode would have trouble connecting.
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It's supposed to connect, and disconnect 3G to save on data costs (probably getting a plan with a 200mb cap...)
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Sure, but you'd also drain your battery without noticing. I would certainly be cautious about it - I can connect to WiFi at work, at shopping malls, cafes, and sometimes even in the streets. I don't want to end up being unable to make a call because I saved a couple bucks. But maybe that's just me...
BTW, I did a quick poll here at my office - all Nokia owners have this feature disabled, they say it drains battery rather quickly. This is not in any way a scientific research, but I don't believe in miracles anyway.

vangrieg said:
I think I said the Best Battery mode still drains your battery. A much lower power mode would have trouble connecting.
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vangrieg said:
Even with the Best battery setting it won't last too long, I'm afraid. Or, as you have said, it won't have good enough reception to actually connect to anything.
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That's what I meant
vangrieg said:
Sure, but you'd also drain your battery without noticing. I would certainly be cautious about it - I can connect to WiFi at work, at shopping malls, cafes, and sometimes even in the streets. I don't want to end up being unable to make a call because I saved a couple bucks. But maybe that's just me...
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Hmmm, there should be a way to limit which networks it should connect to
vangrieg said:
BTW, I did a quick poll here at my office - all Nokia owners have this feature disabled, they say it drains battery rather quickly. This is not in any way a scientific research, but I don't believe in miracles anyway.
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Uh... what Nokias? I doubt it's the same thing, because the N900 is the first Maemo phone

E-something Nokias primarily - they have this auto WiFi feature, don't they?
Don't know anything about this Maemo thing you're talking about, obviously.

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/
That's what I'm trying to decide... N900 or HD2

I leave MSN loged in on my diamond all the time. Wifi is on. it turns wifi off in standby, but msn stays logged in over the normal network connections, I alerts me I receieved a msg in the same way it does with a text. When it comes out of standby it auto reconnects to wifi.

Does that work on Fring as well?

Some NEWBIE question Please help!

I just picked up the verizon tab. Need a little newbie help. Having a few issues
1- How do i prevent battery drain when the unit is off at night but not on a charger it seems i lost battery life
2- How do i know what data source is being used when 3g or wifi both icons are showing on at the same time. if i just want use wifi how do i turn off the 3g radio?
3- anyone get allshare to work? whats the best way to stream stuff from the pc to the gtab?
4- when the battery was at 10% i couldnt adjust the screen brightness anymore it was dark. is that normal?
5-Any battery life tips? get the most out of the battery?
thanks!!!!

sillyrabbitt123 said:
I just picked up the verizon tab. Need a little newbie help. Having a few issues
1- How do i prevent battery drain when the unit is off at night but not on a charger it seems i lost battery life
2- How do i know what data source is being used when 3g or wifi both icons are showing on at the same time. if i just want use wifi how do i turn off the 3g radio?
3- anyone get allshare to work? whats the best way to stream stuff from the pc to the gtab?
4- when the battery was at 10% i couldnt adjust the screen brightness anymore it was dark. is that normal?
5-Any battery life tips? get the most out of the battery?
thanks!!!!
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1 - battery drain in standby shouldn't be significant but you can reduce it by turning off radios you don't need and/or reducing the update interval of any apps you have checking in the background.
2 - I'm not sure what's happening here, usually the wifi logo overwrites the 3g one so it is obvious which one is in use (at least it does on my UK SGT, might be different for CDMA). Either way switching on and off the various radios is easily done from the notification area, just swipe down from the top of the screen to show toggles for wifi, bt, gps, silent mode & orientation lock.
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
3 - I had a bit of a play with allshare day one but haven't had time to give it a proper workout yet.
4 - I haven't had mine run down that far but it sounds like a sensible power saving measure, better to see it dim for a while than bright for two minutes!
5 - the screen auto adjust in the display settings seems to help a lot. Other than that I've found the battery life to be very good for the most part. I tend to only switch on wifi if I have a big download to do so that might help in my case.
Welcome by the way, hope you enjoy the tab!
Bill
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obzbdc said:
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
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Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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huggsy said:
Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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I just found that myself and headed back here only to have been beaten to the punch!
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obzbdc said:
1 - battery drain in standby shouldn't be significant but you can reduce it by turning off radios you don't need and/or reducing the update interval of any apps you have checking in the background.
2 - I'm not sure what's happening here, usually the wifi logo overwrites the 3g one so it is obvious which one is in use (at least it does on my UK SGT, might be different for CDMA). Either way switching on and off the various radios is easily done from the notification area, just swipe down from the top of the screen to show toggles for wifi, bt, gps, silent mode & orientation lock.
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
3 - I had a bit of a play with allshare day one but haven't had time to give it a proper workout yet.
4 - I haven't had mine run down that far but it sounds like a sensible power saving measure, better to see it dim for a while than bright for two minutes!
5 - the screen auto adjust in the display settings seems to help a lot. Other than that I've found the battery life to be very good for the most part. I tend to only switch on wifi if I have a big download to do so that might help in my case.
Welcome by the way, hope you enjoy the tab!
Bill
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THANKS Bill! Appreciate the info/advice!
I guess I am getting confused between the 3g/ the strength bars. So if it doesnt say 3g but just shows signal strength then its probably using wifi?
Does anyone know if the SGT defaults to wifi first then to 3g? Just curious.
huggsy said:
Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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THANKS. If you are home do you leave the 3g off? and just work off of you wifi connection? or do you leave them both running at the same time?
thanks

sillyrabbitt123 said:
THANKS. If you are home do you leave the 3g off? and just work off of you wifi connection? or do you leave them both running at the same time?
thanks
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When wifi is on it turns 3g off. I use an app called tasker to save my battery. I have it set to turn wifi/3g off when the screen turns off, and if I place it face down it sets the device into airplane mode, left in this state the battery drains very slow when not in use. Tasker is not the cheapest app but you are only limited by your imagination what you can do with it.
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Thanks for the info. I will check it out. Much appreciated!

Anyone else know how to use allshare? According to samsung you cannot stream from your pc to the tablet is this correct?
i am actually trying to do both stream from the pc to the tab and then seperately stream from the tab to the tv or blu ray player and or pc and nothing works any which way? not sure how to get this to work?
thanks

AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)

Mado007 said:
AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)
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Not quite correct! It allows you to stream from/to other DLNA devices which includes some Samsung TV's, but plenty of other devices too.
For example, I use to it to stream from/to my PCs with Media Center.
Regards,
Dave

Mado007 said:
AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)
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I have been using allshare with my ps3. On the tab open allshare and select my device as a source. do not select a playback device. Then on the ps3 go to music / video /photo and select the tab
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How do i connect eith all share to my pc? When i tried it only worked one way, from my Tab to the pc (and i like the other way around).
Another question: I removed OCLF can i flah a new rom (is it safe?) Thanks for answering.
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99% sure that this will increase your battery life

There are numerous threads about getting better battery life involving different settings, turning on and off stuff manually and battery calibration etc etc but noone that really helped as much as what ive discovered now.
Me and my spouse has the same phone but we dont have the same operator. I have Telia which has the best coverage in this area while she has Telenor which is worse in general coverage making the phone work harder in the net + really bad when it comes to 3G coverage and thus having slow data connection.
Therefore we have very different standby time on our phones and ive tried to tweak it with different kernels, modems and different flashes but nothing that really helped.
So I made a thread to gather some info from various people but it hasnt growed that much yet (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989266). 2nd post from "theduckking" showed that he was using an app called "tasker" which cost ~4euro (well worth the money if you have low battery time)
Now ive just started using it but I already have 69hours of standby and 27% left of battery and ive never had that amount of battery standby for a really long time! This is getting close to an old fashioned Nokia 3310 standby
My spouse isnt getting as much obvisually as she has worse coverage which drains more battery but she has gone from barely a day to 2 days standby with 10% battery left ~30hours and this is with the following method.
Note. Both our phones have the same configuration, its only the operator which is the difference
Rom: Darky 9.3 Final
Modem: JPY (its the one coming from the darky 9.3 flash)
Kernel: DamianGTO 1.1 Gold
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Now two things that have made the battery last longer is first underclocking it to 800MHz and undervolt -100mV in CWM (this will only make a minor difference albeit noticeble)
And the grand thing that will really up your battery is the app called "TASKER".
Ive only setup two rules and that is to turn off mobile data and wifi when screen is off and turn them back on when screen is on. You can customize it further if you like but im just gonna show how to setup the basics.
After you have downloaded it, fire it up and press "new" and then just press "ok" select "event" and "display off", press "done"
Now press the "+" and "net" then "mobile data", make sure "Off" is selected and then press "Done".
Press "+" again and "net", "Wifi Net" check that it is saying "Disconnect" and press "Done" and press "Done" again to get back to the main menu of "Tasker"
Next rule so press "New" and "ok" again, then "event" and "Display" and select "Display On". Press "Done" and then press the "+" followed by "Net" and "Mobile Data", make sure the checkbox says "On" and press "Done" and you are set. Press home button to apply the settings and you should now have "Tasker" in the top row.
Now this fix will maybe not suit everyone but if you value battery time more than anything then its absolutely for you.
What will happen is that all data traffic will be completely turned off when the phones screen is off and the impact of this is
You wont recieve instant (push) gmail until you unlock your screen
Google talk will not let others see you online/busy when screen is off
If you are making calendar updates from google calendar online, the calendar updates wont appear until you unlock your screen
Probably other stuff that havent crossed my mind
Links to other battery tips
Disable HSDPA (still uses regular 3G but with the slightly lower speed) by Hardcore
Some other battery fixes by bokbacken
Battery calibration by TechnicR
Changing modem to ZSJPG or XXJVE by johnsonxray
Hoping this will help alot of you out there with mediocre battery

Some screenies from the battery status page in settings.
Sorry about the dark image, I raised the contrast and brightness manually afterwards to make it somewhat readable (I forgot to disable the "screen filter" which I enable at nights when reading )

pretty interesting.. will give it a try..

Hardcore made a thread on how to conserve battery life by disabling hsdpa. You can search for it. It has helped me a lot.

I'm using "superpower" from the market and I will install tasker to see if there is new options

If you use Tasker just for Wi-Fi and data turn - off when screen is off you better use (IMHO) SuperPower app. You also better untick auto retrieve option in MMS settings or you will not receive MMS anymore with this settings.

yay I'm famous... or at least useful
I have my connection Tasks attached to this post. you just have to import them and set up rules when to execute them. I have one that starts the OffOnScreenLock task when the screen is locked, one that calls the reconnect task when the screen is unlocked and one that does call reconnect every 45min
View attachment connectionTasks.zip
experiment with it^^
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I also set tasker up to enable and disable GPS automatically (when maps or navigation start it enables GPS, on close it disables it again)
It's fun to play around^^
ragin said:
Hardcore made a thread on how to conserve battery life by disabling hsdpa. You can search for it. It has helped me a lot.
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it's here

Thomasen76 said:
I'm using "superpower" from the market and I will install tasker to see if there is new options
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I using Super Power long time too (although i have 3000 mAh battery ), and i have battry life about 4-5 days on normal using, and 2-3 days by heavy using SGS.
I ask, after your testing, if you can make comparision battery life, using Super Power and Tasker, wich is better ?
Thank you in advance
Regards

Same here. Using Super Power some months ago, but now I'm curious about Tasker.
Wonder if it's better thar Super Power. Anyone can confirm that?

diN0pt said:
Same here. Using Super Power some months ago, but now I'm curious about Tasker.
Wonder if it's better thar Super Power. Anyone can confirm that?
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I just took a small look at super power. I found nothing you can't do with (except the 2g/3g toggling but I did not try that) tasker. The difference is, that you have to set up your own tasks and functions and rules. you can also create widgets and use variables to alter the way your own task works. If you have some programming skills you will probably love it, otherwise it's lots of potential left unused. (like loops, if/else statements)
You can read up on it over at lifehacker.com

I agree of course. Then again if you are a developer might as well completely roll your own
Tasker is nice if you know how to use it. Doesn't do all the things SuperPower can do, but can do a lot of thing (though less on 2.3, I think ? Not sure).
Gotta decide what's your own cup of tea. Apps like SuperPower (and Juice Defender, and a number of others ones) try to make your life easier, while with apps like Tasker (and the right plugins, of course) you can make your own rules. It's often more difficult than it sounds, though!

Save your Note 3 battery.

Source: http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3/862515-note-3-horrable-battery-life.html
1. Reboot daily, and do it when the phone is fully charged AND STILL ON THE CHARGER! Let it sit on the charger for a good five minutes so it goes through the whole boot process without taking any battery usage.
2. find the best (lowest) screen brightness you can live with and set that as your fixed screen brightness. Using Auto-brightness is NOT a good battery saver.
3. Active Apps Manager. I also put this right on the front screen. It's a little number inside a circle. The number is for how many apps are currently running in your phone's memory. The circle around the number turns colors from green to orange to red. If it's red then at least one of your running apps is using the cpu and therefore battery. If it's green then the apps are idle and not using much battery. You can press the button and it will show you what apps are open and what percentage of cpu is being used.
This little widget is invaluable in telling you which apps are notorious for using the cpu (and battery) even though you are not actively using them. It helps you understand which apps you need to kill off each time you use them. For instance I have found that almost all my news apps that have notifications activated will continued to run and eat battery. Also, my chess app, Chess.com. So now I just know to kill them off after I'm done using them.
4. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, gps, 4G, syncing and don't use any live wallpapers.
5. Enable Developer Options and check 'disable hardware overlays' and then 'enable MSAA' (automatically turned off on reboot)

Whats the point in having WiFi, Bluetooth, 4G if you're suggesting to turn it off?? Might want to think that part over again buddy lol

speedyjay said:
Whats the point in having WiFi, Bluetooth, 4G if you're suggesting to turn it off?? Might want to think that part over again buddy lol
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Off when you are not using them.
Sent from Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005

Thats too simple

thahim said:
Off when you are not using them.
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You can still have them on....but turn scanning off. Seriously dude, i think you need to get to know android a bit better.

speedyjay said:
You can still have them on....but turn scanning off. Seriously dude, i think you need to get to know android a bit better.
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hardware uses battery power, when its on, even when not using it or its not scanning.

thahim said:
hardware uses battery power, when its on, even when not using it or its not scanning.
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No it really doesnt....how can it possibly use power when its not doing anything? With 4G and wifi on....i could easily get 2 days usage out of my device.

speedyjay said:
No it really doesnt....how can it possibly use power when its not doing anything? With 4G and wifi on....i could easily get 2 days usage out of my device.
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ok, i don't know about this.

[Q] finally got my note 4, a few questions

hey guys,
before 2 days i finally got my note 4 after a long time with iphones,a few words wow! what a great phone! i dont know what i did with iphone so many years. everything is open and so simple and i really glad i chose to go with the note 4.
now i have some questions (The most important question is the battery life) and much more questions and i will glad if you can help me with all of the questions.
ok lets start,
1. the most important questions is my first question and is about the battery life, When I received the note 4 I waited for fully discharged for the first use until the device turns off, and then I charged it again (with fast charging without turn of the device) and i fell asleep and then in the morning was 100% so i turn the device (yes I know not to leave it charging all night even after the device is already 100% but its happend ) well I noticed that the battery runs out really fast, and my use was quite low and I do not know how! For example, after a 3 hours of use the battery goes from 100% to 60% and after more two hours its was 35%. excpet this i saw when i got 5-6% i was playing a bit with the settings and after 2-3 min the device turns off. how 5-6% in 2-3 min and even less?
this is the things i did to save my battery life already:
sound settings: turns off - vibrate while ringing, dailing keypad tone, touch sound, screen lock sound, sounds when tapped, vibrate when tapped and all the rest.
brightness: almost the lowest and even now i tried auto - btw what is the best to do - auto brightness or to set it your own on low brightness?
bluetooth - off
closing applications with the "recent app button" - V
GPS - off
Disable Pen Detection - off
and more settings that i dont remmber.
here is a picture of my power saving in settings (before i charge it without "fast charing") Do not know if this is related but just mention that
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
so what should i do to to extend my battery life? because my battery life very poor.
Sub Questions about the battery:
a. which way is the best to charge the note? wait until the device turns off and then to charge it to 100%? or what?
b. fast charing option is good? right now i turns the option off and my device charging while he off. what do you recommend to turn off the feature or on?
2. i heard when i force stop applications in "applications manager" is good is that true? is effect on the battery life?
look at the picture i uploaded from there,
the settings are good? do i have to force stop applications? i will glad to hear a short explanation about this.
3. about the RAM usage, applications thats running or i dont know how to call it, look at the picture i uploaded:
1.6 GB in use and sometimes its even 2GB in use, i really dont know how! i didnt use so many applications.
it is ok to close apps from here or to let the system to handle it? and is effect on the battery life? i really glad to short explantion about it also.
4. the google syncs its like iCloud in apple? i saw in settings alot of marks like: calander, contacts, and many more can sync to google+, what thats means? its will upload to google sync cloud? or its just a backup to the contacts? i really dont understand this.
5. i used wazzapmigrator app to my note from iphone to transfer all my whatsapp history chat, is it safe? everything works good i just ask it to be sure. by the way i use the "LITE" version of free download and now each message have - LITE, if i buy the full version its will remove it?
and a sub question, i used smartswitch to transfer my notes, calander, contacts is ok?
Sorry for the ignorance i know i asked so many stupid questions but i have to solve them.
thank you very much!!

1. I will say that the battery needs to be settled with our use, so if you got bad batt life in first few days of use, it will become better later..
And also you can turn off feature that you don't use or hate it.. for me, I always disable vibration and that sound when typing with keyboard because that disturb me..
2. You can use the force close, it's just like force closing apps in pc.. you know, in pc we can force close app with the task manager via ctrl+alt+del.. it's just like that..
3. For me, I let the system handle it.. me too have same amount of ram used as in your picture, and the phone is still buttery smooth..
And you can disable (turn off) preinstalled app (bloatware) that you don't use, like me, I disable evernote, dropbox, instagram, etc. so they won't run in background..
4. I'm not experienced with apple icloud system, but I think they have same functionality.. That sync is provided so if you change your device or maybe lost it, you still have your data with you in the new phone, but I never use it so much because I can keep my phone well
5. I can't answer this as I'm not using whatsapp..
And 1 more :
Welcome to the android world

heres mine with auto brightness, gps high acc, bluetooth on, wifi on, display wallpaper full black, animations off, fast charging off - after a full day of work. rarely gets below 40%. exynos 910u variant.

ar216893 said:
1. I will say that the battery needs to be settled with our use, so if you got bad batt life in first few days of use, it will become better later..
And also you can turn off feature that you don't use or hate it.. for me, I always disable vibration and that sound when typing with keyboard because that disturb me..
2. You can use the force close, it's just like force closing apps in pc.. you know, in pc we can force close app with the task manager via ctrl+alt+del.. it's just like that..
3. For me, I let the system handle it.. me too have same amount of ram used as in your picture, and the phone is still buttery smooth..
And you can disable (turn off) preinstalled app (bloatware) that you don't use, like me, I disable evernote, dropbox, instagram, etc. so they won't run in background..
4. I'm not experienced with apple icloud system, but I think they have same functionality.. That sync is provided so if you change your device or maybe lost it, you still have your data with you in the new phone, but I never use it so much because I can keep my phone well
5. I can't answer this as I'm not using whatsapp..
And 1 more :
Welcome to the android world
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first of all thank you for all the answers!
1. oh k, i hope its will be better. I considered to use the warranty and replace the battery but its make no sense because i bought the note before 2 days ago the battery is new from the box.
what do you recommend me to do?
and by the way to use auto brightness or to put it my self? and which way is the best way to charge the battery?
and i had 100% in in less then hour is drops to 88% only with whatsapp use, really strange.
and here is an update screenshot from my power save settings, 62% screen! i guess is the problem of my battery. so how can i make it lower? to 10-20 and even 30 its will make my battery better i guess no?
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
4. oh ok great!
5. k, and about smartswitch it is good? i used it to transfer contacts/notes.
thanks again!
zurkx said:
heres mine with auto brightness, gps high acc, bluetooth on, wifi on, display wallpaper full black, animations off, fast charging off - after a full day of work. rarely gets below 40%. exynos 910u variant.
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here is a update screenshot from now,
i guess the screen is the problem of my battery how can i make it lower to 10-20 more/less? thats is the question.
do you think this is the issue thats my battery life poor?

yes its definitely your screen.
put it to basic, use a 256x144 full black wallpaper scaled up ( i attached one), turn animations off in dev options on your settings, set smart look on, set timeout to 10 seconds (dont worry smart look will prevent device shutting screen off while you look at it).
Just to show you i am not cheating and not using my note you can see my applications and memory usage, which is more than yours .

zurkx said:
yes its definitely your screen.
put it to basic, use a 256x144 full black wallpaper scaled up ( i attached one), turn animations off in dev options on your settings, set smart look on, set timeout to 10 seconds (dont worry smart look will prevent device shutting screen off while you look at it).
Just to show you i am not cheating and not using my note you can see my applications and memory usage, which is more than yours .
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ok i hope is the screen.
well one of your screenshot doesnt work and all the rest i belive you about the usage/ram
ok i did the picture on basic, but still the screen is on 62% i have to wait until is drops or what?and where is the set it on 256/144 scaled up? and i cant find the animations also in the settings.
smart look you mean smart stay? to put it on? and screen timeout is on 15 seconds is the lowest.
and one more thingthe brightness should be on auto? and what is the auto adjust screen tone put it on? have alot settings in the screen settings i really dont know haha.
i will glad if you help me find those settings. i have to lower my screen percentage from 60% to 10-20-30 at least.
thanks!

the black image i posted up is a 256 x 144 image. download it to your note and set it as background.
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)

zurkx said:
the black image i posted up is a 256 x 144 image. download it to your note and set it as background.
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)
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thanks!
i did everything you said in the screen settings, but still in the power saving the screen is on 63% why?
When it should to drops? do i have to reset? charage again? wait? dont get it
and about the black image i dont want it on my wallpaper is that necessary?
about the dev options i enable it, when i set the scale off my screen become to red and flickering 10-15 sec until i stop the dev options. what is that?
so i didnt change the dev settings i did it off right now. what is this red flickering screen?
and btw i cant to disable/hide the dev options now right?

it will recalculate after 24 hrs.
the black screen is necessary - amoleds consume power on lit pixels.
scale off with animations off shouldnt cause flickering. sure you didnt switch anything else on ?

zurkx said:
it will recalculate after 24 hrs.
the black screen is necessary - amoleds consume power on lit pixels.
scale off with animations off shouldnt cause flickering. sure you didnt switch anything else on ?
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what you mean recalculate after 24 hrs, the screen percentageon power saving?
and about the black screen i got it, but i change all those settings
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
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thats should do enough no? about the black wallpaper, its just for fit or i have to stay with the black wallpaper?
and about the flickering no, i didnt change nothing else excpet scale and then its start to red flickering all over the screen. do you hear about it? its so strange. do i have to worry about it?
btw, can i hide the dev options?

1Neo said:
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
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instead of manually force stop these app, you can open Settings > App manager > select apps and select Turn Off.
If you are not sure which app is safely can be turned off, you can post a list of apps here, I or maybe someone else will tell you which app can be safely turned off.
If you have rooted, you can remove them completely.

1Neo said:
first of all thank you for all the answers!
1. oh k, i hope its will be better. I considered to use the warranty and replace the battery but its make no sense because i bought the note before 2 days ago the battery is new from the box.
what do you recommend me to do?
and by the way to use auto brightness or to put it my self? and which way is the best way to charge the battery?
and i had 100% in in less then hour is drops to 88% only with whatsapp use, really strange.
and here is an update screenshot from my power save settings, 62% screen! i guess is the problem of my battery. so how can i make it lower? to 10-20 and even 30 its will make my battery better i guess no?
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
4. oh ok great!
5. k, and about smartswitch it is good? i used it to transfer contacts/notes.
thanks again!
here is a update screenshot from now,
i guess the screen is the problem of my battery how can i make it lower to 10-20 more/less? thats is the question.
do you think this is the issue thats my battery life poor?
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1. How long is your replacement warranty ? I suggest to wait it til the last day..
That screen percentage is show how much you use it.. screen will go high if you use it.. but that 60+ % is something.. I use my device often, and it's only as high as 30 something percent
2. I'll leave something that I didn't know.. You better google it to see it's used or not..
3. If you connect those apps, it's surely will drain the battery.. but I'm still turn it off if I not use it.. just in case they run in background..
5. I haven't used that apps..

vndnguyen said:
instead of manually force stop these app, you can open Settings > App manager > select apps and select Turn Off.
If you are not sure which app is safely can be turned off, you can post a list of apps here, I or maybe someone else will tell you which app can be safely turned off.
If you have rooted, you can remove them completely.
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at the app manager, the downloaded section all the apps i know i stops everything thats i dont use.
at the running section there is some apps i dont know like quick connect interaction, com.sec android.app, tuiservice,context service and many more..
at all section is more than 100 things, alot are 0.00B with an android icon i dont know if to touch it.
ar216893 said:
1. How long is your replacement warranty ? I suggest to wait it til the last day..
That screen percentage is show how much you use it.. screen will go high if you use it.. but that 60+ % is something.. I use my device often, and it's only as high as 30 something percent
2. I'll leave something that I didn't know.. You better google it to see it's used or not..
3. If you connect those apps, it's surely will drain the battery.. but I'm still turn it off if I not use it.. just in case they run in background..
5. I haven't used that apps..
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1. i bought 2 days ago and i have 1 year warranty for battery replace.
yes now the screen is on 53% i guess like zurkx said its recalculate every 24hr no? before 1hr its was 63% so i hope its will be less and my battery should be better no?
but you know how long the note 4 battery life should work for while playing music/games/notes/settings ? 6 hrs? 9 hrs?
3. oh ok.
and btw anyone know what happend me before when i enable the devs options? i mean the flickering screen for few seconds thats i talked about before few comments.
and how i can hide the devs options?
thanks guys!

1Neo said:
and how i can hide the devs options?
thanks guys!
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here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10

vndnguyen said:
here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10
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btw, i found a guide how to remove the dev options very easy, just go to settings- application manager - all - searcing for "settings" and then click on clear data and thats it!
the only thing i dont know its what its doing to my settings, anyone? or im fine?
and someone can tell me if the red flickering thats happend me in the dev options is ok? i didnt got it again i just ask to be sure.

1Neo said:
btw, i found a guide how to remove the dev options very easy, just go to settings- application manager - all - searcing for "settings" and then click on clear data and thats it!
the only thing i dont know its what its doing to my settings, anyone? or im fine?
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In my device that button (Clear Data) was dimmed so I cannot clear data.
I don't know why.
and someone can tell me if the red flickering thats happend me in the dev options is ok? i didnt got it again i just ask to be sure.
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What option did you mention?
Don't know what you mean. can you show a screenshot?

vndnguyen said:
here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10
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vndnguyen said:
In my device that button (Clear Data) was dimmed so I cannot clear data.
I don't know why.
What option did you mention?
Don't know what you mean. can you show a screenshot?
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someone told me here to do this,
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)
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and when i turn off the scale animation the screen start to flickering on red colors, after 5-10 sec its stopped and never happend again.
should i have to worried? btw like i said i already removed/hide the devs options from settings with the guide thats i showed you.
i found a picture from another website of the same problem thats happend to me but for nexus,
the same thing happend to me but its was flickering.
the question if i have to worry about it and do a reset or to forgot it? its happend only one time.
thank you

dont wory after 4-6 cycle of complete charging and discharghing it will get better

jraman said:
dont wory after 4-6 cycle of complete charging and discharghing it will get better
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good to know, do i have to keep playing my note normaly and charage it when is 10-20% or wait until the battery is empty?
just keep normal and charage it when i need and its will be better?

1Neo said:
good to know, do i have to keep playing my note normaly and charage it when is 10-20% or wait until the battery is empty?
just keep normal and charage it when i need and its will be better?
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charge your phone when battery drops to 10-15%