[Q] finally got my note 4, a few questions - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys,
before 2 days i finally got my note 4 after a long time with iphones,a few words wow! what a great phone! i dont know what i did with iphone so many years. everything is open and so simple and i really glad i chose to go with the note 4.
now i have some questions (The most important question is the battery life) and much more questions and i will glad if you can help me with all of the questions.
ok lets start,
1. the most important questions is my first question and is about the battery life, When I received the note 4 I waited for fully discharged for the first use until the device turns off, and then I charged it again (with fast charging without turn of the device) and i fell asleep and then in the morning was 100% so i turn the device (yes I know not to leave it charging all night even after the device is already 100% but its happend ) well I noticed that the battery runs out really fast, and my use was quite low and I do not know how! For example, after a 3 hours of use the battery goes from 100% to 60% and after more two hours its was 35%. excpet this i saw when i got 5-6% i was playing a bit with the settings and after 2-3 min the device turns off. how 5-6% in 2-3 min and even less?
this is the things i did to save my battery life already:
sound settings: turns off - vibrate while ringing, dailing keypad tone, touch sound, screen lock sound, sounds when tapped, vibrate when tapped and all the rest.
brightness: almost the lowest and even now i tried auto - btw what is the best to do - auto brightness or to set it your own on low brightness?
bluetooth - off
closing applications with the "recent app button" - V
GPS - off
Disable Pen Detection - off
and more settings that i dont remmber.
here is a picture of my power saving in settings (before i charge it without "fast charing") Do not know if this is related but just mention that
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so what should i do to to extend my battery life? because my battery life very poor.
Sub Questions about the battery:
a. which way is the best to charge the note? wait until the device turns off and then to charge it to 100%? or what?
b. fast charing option is good? right now i turns the option off and my device charging while he off. what do you recommend to turn off the feature or on?
2. i heard when i force stop applications in "applications manager" is good is that true? is effect on the battery life?
look at the picture i uploaded from there,
the settings are good? do i have to force stop applications? i will glad to hear a short explanation about this.
3. about the RAM usage, applications thats running or i dont know how to call it, look at the picture i uploaded:
1.6 GB in use and sometimes its even 2GB in use, i really dont know how! i didnt use so many applications.
it is ok to close apps from here or to let the system to handle it? and is effect on the battery life? i really glad to short explantion about it also.
4. the google syncs its like iCloud in apple? i saw in settings alot of marks like: calander, contacts, and many more can sync to google+, what thats means? its will upload to google sync cloud? or its just a backup to the contacts? i really dont understand this.
5. i used wazzapmigrator app to my note from iphone to transfer all my whatsapp history chat, is it safe? everything works good i just ask it to be sure. by the way i use the "LITE" version of free download and now each message have - LITE, if i buy the full version its will remove it?
and a sub question, i used smartswitch to transfer my notes, calander, contacts is ok?
Sorry for the ignorance i know i asked so many stupid questions but i have to solve them.
thank you very much!!

1. I will say that the battery needs to be settled with our use, so if you got bad batt life in first few days of use, it will become better later..
And also you can turn off feature that you don't use or hate it.. for me, I always disable vibration and that sound when typing with keyboard because that disturb me..
2. You can use the force close, it's just like force closing apps in pc.. you know, in pc we can force close app with the task manager via ctrl+alt+del.. it's just like that..
3. For me, I let the system handle it.. me too have same amount of ram used as in your picture, and the phone is still buttery smooth..
And you can disable (turn off) preinstalled app (bloatware) that you don't use, like me, I disable evernote, dropbox, instagram, etc. so they won't run in background..
4. I'm not experienced with apple icloud system, but I think they have same functionality.. That sync is provided so if you change your device or maybe lost it, you still have your data with you in the new phone, but I never use it so much because I can keep my phone well
5. I can't answer this as I'm not using whatsapp..
And 1 more :
Welcome to the android world

heres mine with auto brightness, gps high acc, bluetooth on, wifi on, display wallpaper full black, animations off, fast charging off - after a full day of work. rarely gets below 40%. exynos 910u variant.

ar216893 said:
1. I will say that the battery needs to be settled with our use, so if you got bad batt life in first few days of use, it will become better later..
And also you can turn off feature that you don't use or hate it.. for me, I always disable vibration and that sound when typing with keyboard because that disturb me..
2. You can use the force close, it's just like force closing apps in pc.. you know, in pc we can force close app with the task manager via ctrl+alt+del.. it's just like that..
3. For me, I let the system handle it.. me too have same amount of ram used as in your picture, and the phone is still buttery smooth..
And you can disable (turn off) preinstalled app (bloatware) that you don't use, like me, I disable evernote, dropbox, instagram, etc. so they won't run in background..
4. I'm not experienced with apple icloud system, but I think they have same functionality.. That sync is provided so if you change your device or maybe lost it, you still have your data with you in the new phone, but I never use it so much because I can keep my phone well
5. I can't answer this as I'm not using whatsapp..
And 1 more :
Welcome to the android world
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first of all thank you for all the answers!
1. oh k, i hope its will be better. I considered to use the warranty and replace the battery but its make no sense because i bought the note before 2 days ago the battery is new from the box.
what do you recommend me to do?
and by the way to use auto brightness or to put it my self? and which way is the best way to charge the battery?
and i had 100% in in less then hour is drops to 88% only with whatsapp use, really strange.
and here is an update screenshot from my power save settings, 62% screen! i guess is the problem of my battery. so how can i make it lower? to 10-20 and even 30 its will make my battery better i guess no?
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
4. oh ok great!
5. k, and about smartswitch it is good? i used it to transfer contacts/notes.
thanks again!
zurkx said:
heres mine with auto brightness, gps high acc, bluetooth on, wifi on, display wallpaper full black, animations off, fast charging off - after a full day of work. rarely gets below 40%. exynos 910u variant.
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here is a update screenshot from now,
i guess the screen is the problem of my battery how can i make it lower to 10-20 more/less? thats is the question.
do you think this is the issue thats my battery life poor?

yes its definitely your screen.
put it to basic, use a 256x144 full black wallpaper scaled up ( i attached one), turn animations off in dev options on your settings, set smart look on, set timeout to 10 seconds (dont worry smart look will prevent device shutting screen off while you look at it).
Just to show you i am not cheating and not using my note you can see my applications and memory usage, which is more than yours .

zurkx said:
yes its definitely your screen.
put it to basic, use a 256x144 full black wallpaper scaled up ( i attached one), turn animations off in dev options on your settings, set smart look on, set timeout to 10 seconds (dont worry smart look will prevent device shutting screen off while you look at it).
Just to show you i am not cheating and not using my note you can see my applications and memory usage, which is more than yours .
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ok i hope is the screen.
well one of your screenshot doesnt work and all the rest i belive you about the usage/ram
ok i did the picture on basic, but still the screen is on 62% i have to wait until is drops or what?and where is the set it on 256/144 scaled up? and i cant find the animations also in the settings.
smart look you mean smart stay? to put it on? and screen timeout is on 15 seconds is the lowest.
and one more thingthe brightness should be on auto? and what is the auto adjust screen tone put it on? have alot settings in the screen settings i really dont know haha.
i will glad if you help me find those settings. i have to lower my screen percentage from 60% to 10-20-30 at least.
thanks!

the black image i posted up is a 256 x 144 image. download it to your note and set it as background.
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)

zurkx said:
the black image i posted up is a 256 x 144 image. download it to your note and set it as background.
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)
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thanks!
i did everything you said in the screen settings, but still in the power saving the screen is on 63% why?
When it should to drops? do i have to reset? charage again? wait? dont get it
and about the black image i dont want it on my wallpaper is that necessary?
about the dev options i enable it, when i set the scale off my screen become to red and flickering 10-15 sec until i stop the dev options. what is that?
so i didnt change the dev settings i did it off right now. what is this red flickering screen?
and btw i cant to disable/hide the dev options now right?

it will recalculate after 24 hrs.
the black screen is necessary - amoleds consume power on lit pixels.
scale off with animations off shouldnt cause flickering. sure you didnt switch anything else on ?

zurkx said:
it will recalculate after 24 hrs.
the black screen is necessary - amoleds consume power on lit pixels.
scale off with animations off shouldnt cause flickering. sure you didnt switch anything else on ?
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what you mean recalculate after 24 hrs, the screen percentageon power saving?
and about the black screen i got it, but i change all those settings
settings- display screen - mode - basic.
enable auto adjust screen tone.
smart stay enable.
daydream off
touch light key duration 1.5s
screen timeout 15s
brightness -5 auto
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thats should do enough no? about the black wallpaper, its just for fit or i have to stay with the black wallpaper?
and about the flickering no, i didnt change nothing else excpet scale and then its start to red flickering all over the screen. do you hear about it? its so strange. do i have to worry about it?
btw, can i hide the dev options?

1Neo said:
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
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instead of manually force stop these app, you can open Settings > App manager > select apps and select Turn Off.
If you are not sure which app is safely can be turned off, you can post a list of apps here, I or maybe someone else will tell you which app can be safely turned off.
If you have rooted, you can remove them completely.

1Neo said:
first of all thank you for all the answers!
1. oh k, i hope its will be better. I considered to use the warranty and replace the battery but its make no sense because i bought the note before 2 days ago the battery is new from the box.
what do you recommend me to do?
and by the way to use auto brightness or to put it my self? and which way is the best way to charge the battery?
and i had 100% in in less then hour is drops to 88% only with whatsapp use, really strange.
and here is an update screenshot from my power save settings, 62% screen! i guess is the problem of my battery. so how can i make it lower? to 10-20 and even 30 its will make my battery better i guess no?
2. ok, and there is so many apps thats i dont have any idea what to do with them, devicetest, DCM,SERVICEMODE and alot more do not touch them? to close only Known Applications? and the most important, thats is effect on the battery life?
3. but evernote,instagram and all of this is in the manage applications also so whats its the diffrence and its effect on battery life also?
4. oh ok great!
5. k, and about smartswitch it is good? i used it to transfer contacts/notes.
thanks again!
here is a update screenshot from now,
i guess the screen is the problem of my battery how can i make it lower to 10-20 more/less? thats is the question.
do you think this is the issue thats my battery life poor?
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1. How long is your replacement warranty ? I suggest to wait it til the last day..
That screen percentage is show how much you use it.. screen will go high if you use it.. but that 60+ % is something.. I use my device often, and it's only as high as 30 something percent
2. I'll leave something that I didn't know.. You better google it to see it's used or not..
3. If you connect those apps, it's surely will drain the battery.. but I'm still turn it off if I not use it.. just in case they run in background..
5. I haven't used that apps..

vndnguyen said:
instead of manually force stop these app, you can open Settings > App manager > select apps and select Turn Off.
If you are not sure which app is safely can be turned off, you can post a list of apps here, I or maybe someone else will tell you which app can be safely turned off.
If you have rooted, you can remove them completely.
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at the app manager, the downloaded section all the apps i know i stops everything thats i dont use.
at the running section there is some apps i dont know like quick connect interaction, com.sec android.app, tuiservice,context service and many more..
at all section is more than 100 things, alot are 0.00B with an android icon i dont know if to touch it.
ar216893 said:
1. How long is your replacement warranty ? I suggest to wait it til the last day..
That screen percentage is show how much you use it.. screen will go high if you use it.. but that 60+ % is something.. I use my device often, and it's only as high as 30 something percent
2. I'll leave something that I didn't know.. You better google it to see it's used or not..
3. If you connect those apps, it's surely will drain the battery.. but I'm still turn it off if I not use it.. just in case they run in background..
5. I haven't used that apps..
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1. i bought 2 days ago and i have 1 year warranty for battery replace.
yes now the screen is on 53% i guess like zurkx said its recalculate every 24hr no? before 1hr its was 63% so i hope its will be less and my battery should be better no?
but you know how long the note 4 battery life should work for while playing music/games/notes/settings ? 6 hrs? 9 hrs?
3. oh ok.
and btw anyone know what happend me before when i enable the devs options? i mean the flickering screen for few seconds thats i talked about before few comments.
and how i can hide the devs options?
thanks guys!

1Neo said:
and how i can hide the devs options?
thanks guys!
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here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10

vndnguyen said:
here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10
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btw, i found a guide how to remove the dev options very easy, just go to settings- application manager - all - searcing for "settings" and then click on clear data and thats it!
the only thing i dont know its what its doing to my settings, anyone? or im fine?
and someone can tell me if the red flickering thats happend me in the dev options is ok? i didnt got it again i just ask to be sure.

1Neo said:
btw, i found a guide how to remove the dev options very easy, just go to settings- application manager - all - searcing for "settings" and then click on clear data and thats it!
the only thing i dont know its what its doing to my settings, anyone? or im fine?
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In my device that button (Clear Data) was dimmed so I cannot clear data.
I don't know why.
and someone can tell me if the red flickering thats happend me in the dev options is ok? i didnt got it again i just ask to be sure.
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What option did you mention?
Don't know what you mean. can you show a screenshot?

vndnguyen said:
here is how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40781009&postcount=10
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vndnguyen said:
In my device that button (Clear Data) was dimmed so I cannot clear data.
I don't know why.
What option did you mention?
Don't know what you mean. can you show a screenshot?
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someone told me here to do this,
settings - developer options - windows animation scale off. transition scale off duration scale off. show all ANRs.
(you will have to enable dev options - click on build number in about device 7 times)
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and when i turn off the scale animation the screen start to flickering on red colors, after 5-10 sec its stopped and never happend again.
should i have to worried? btw like i said i already removed/hide the devs options from settings with the guide thats i showed you.
i found a picture from another website of the same problem thats happend to me but for nexus,
the same thing happend to me but its was flickering.
the question if i have to worry about it and do a reset or to forgot it? its happend only one time.
thank you

dont wory after 4-6 cycle of complete charging and discharghing it will get better

jraman said:
dont wory after 4-6 cycle of complete charging and discharghing it will get better
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good to know, do i have to keep playing my note normaly and charage it when is 10-20% or wait until the battery is empty?
just keep normal and charage it when i need and its will be better?

1Neo said:
good to know, do i have to keep playing my note normaly and charage it when is 10-20% or wait until the battery is empty?
just keep normal and charage it when i need and its will be better?
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charge your phone when battery drops to 10-15%

Related

2x battery life

for the sake of simplifying my phone, I removed all the tabs and kept only the following:
1. Home
2. People
3. SMS
4. Calendar
5. Settings
Now I see that my battery life is almost double than before.
wow!
That is an interesting observation, and I think I will try it. Have you tried adding the tabs back in to confirm? How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
u will be suprised LOL
thanks for the tip, since i dont really use those tabs much might as well get rid of them
Remove Sense completely and benefit even more
I know some people can't live without it though. Anything that saves power and makes the phone more responsive is a good result.
Well played!
i would...but i dont find titanium smooth...
another note..i have 4 email accounts incl. 1 ms exchange..
The reason why is simple
When u place the tabs Pictures and Music they will take up memory because they keep searching for music and pictures
memory consuumption is no different. still 60% or so with no open apps.
jdwilson said:
How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
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That's so funny
i think i missed this...i also disabled the ambient light sensor. that maybe the reason for longer battery life.
how do you disable that? is it the automatically adjust light from battery settings?
Right. I set the brightness min/max permanently insteadof "autmatic".
My internet connection was always on and I generally charged my phone via the computer using the usb lead.
Recently started charging it overnight using the mains and keep the internet connection off when I am not using it. I have noticed a huge difference. Instead of 24hours use, I now easily get a day and a half!
Regards

Any Battery power saving tips?

So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
ATOJAR said:
So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
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I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app ON rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun
warriorvibhu said:
I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app on rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun
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Yeah ive been using the Advanced Task Killer for a while now already.
I have read that usage of ATK is not required at all because of Androids near perfect RAM Management. And you also could come into trouble because android looses a small amount of ram capacity every time you use ATK untill the next reboot.
other than that you could try Juice Plotter and Juice Defender
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
rasenzhang said:
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
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use the automatic brigtness option under the phone settings. much better batterty performance
Read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Not sure if these steps actually improve the efficency of the battery OR wheter the S/W behind the battery guage becomes more accurate as it goes through a process that alows it to better estimate the SOC of the battery.
Andy
Yup, even I have read a lot that Android manages the apps in a beautiful way. When I first used Android, the first question that came to my mind was how to exit apps as none of the apps had an exit button. Coming from nokia, sony erricson etc this was an obvious question to ask. Then after some research I found that Android just freezes the apps when we go back. The app is not actually running in the back end.
But anyway, yesterday my battery again went to 8% and on checking the used status, it showed that the android system used 92% of the battery lol.
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
sumeetchawla said:
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
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Thanks for this!
I installed this widget and it said that GPS was on even though it wasn't appearing in the tool bar along the top. I had run several apps that use GPS, but had assumed if the GPS icon was gone, GPS was off.
Is that wrong?
(good news if it is, as I was struggling to keep enough power to in my phone to get through the day without charging)
joan
Avoid task killers like the plague. They cause more problems than they solve. Trust the android os to manage ram.
Just discovered the most powerful app I have ever seen called "Tasker". It its only £4, but will make your android so much more diverse. You can, for example, have it go into airplane mode between certain times (i have between midnight and 6am) but periodically check for sms or voice mail every hour. It saves stacks of battery.
I have it turning wifi on only when it knows I'm at home or at work.
I have it turning off wifi, dropping screen brightness down, and playing a louder notification when battery gets to 15%.
It silences my phone when I get within 100m of the two cinemas I use.
It is not the most easy app to use, be patient with it. Look up some of the "recipes" on the internet to get a good tutorial on how to work it. £4 is a steal for something so potentially vast. Its limited only by your imagination.
Oh and having run Tasker for 24 hours, (how long my battery normally lasts) only contributes to a 2% drain, and its adding roughly 6 to 8 hours extra! It would cost you ten times that for an extended battery!
I use an free app called timeriffic to auto disable WiFi
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Try program JuiceDefender....you can download free from Android market.
my battery life is really awful too,i noticed it a couple days ago,that it drains to fast,so i started looking into it,and i found out,that my device won't go too sleep. so in settings/about phone/battery the awake time and up time are the same. i had similar problems on my hero, but there it was the messaging apps fault.
here, i kill everything with advanced task killer,it still can't go too sleep,android battery use shows,that android system is using most of the battery.
anybody else with similar problem?solutions? i have stock 1.25 rom rooted with unrevoked.
What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
Ive head bad things about using task killers too, I dont use on anymore.
Some things i have done that have helped my battery like quit alot actually is turn off Wi-Fi, Turm off GPS, Turned off haptic feedback(vibration when pressing buttons), Screen brightness to automatic & screen timeout too 15 seconds.
I can now have a really good fiddle with the phone and it can last more than a day without needing a charge.
As I understand when screen goes auto shut off, all apps are idle, even WiFi or gps is on. I tried with music on continuously for 2 hrs in flight mode, I still have about 80% power. With gps on for 1 hr continuous, I still have about 80%. With normal use my power can last the whole day.
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ATOJAR said:
What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
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no,the screen turns off,but something still runs in the background what eats the battery,and I can't find out what it is. I tried multiple task managers,and they show that everything is closed.i have it in flight mode,with everything turned off,still something runs,what shouldn't.
Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
jefmcg said:
Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
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2 updates from me, to help anyone else with similar problems:
1) I uninstalled any recently installed or updated apps** and widgets now I have a 1:6 ratio of awake time. So, fixed?
2) In the meantime I logged a call to HTC via their website. Answer:
With regards to your problem, if the battery is going down significantly and you have turned of applications when your not using them and used task killer. It might be better to call us up so we cann look into it further and we might have to book the phone in for repair especially if you have noticed it not charging properly or overheating at any time.
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Yup, those problems started occurring at the same time as the other, so it looks like I have an underlying hardware fault. Dammit! I don't want to be without my phone for 2 weeks.
joan
**including CardioTrainer! When I reinstalled it I'd lost around 900km of workout history.
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
ebioman said:
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
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If you are asking me, the answer is "about 6 hours".
I've (partially) fixed my uptime = awaketime problem. But I obviously have some more serious battery issue.
Hopefully someone else can chime in with happy battery life.
joan

Super Evo Battery Tips and Explanations **Updated 1-22-11**

Over the months I have been an Evo user, I have collected some valuable information that all users should probably know in regards to maximizing battery life. Besides the stuff about 4G and a few specific options, these steps apply to pretty much any other android phone running 2.2, and a lot of them apply to versions below Froyo.
General Lithium Ion Battery Information
^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users:
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g) Use a widget like the default HTC power widget or Switchpro from the market. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
**IMPORTANT DISCOVERY**When you turn on your 4G radio, then turn it off, it will keep scanning and turning off all by itself.
The problem is apparently exacerbated by a 4G toggle widget, which causes the phone to automatically turn on 4G at boot. This repeating of scanning and disconnecting severely drains battery life, and sadly, no matter what ROM or kernel you use, there is only one way to fix it:
-If you don’t use the toggle widget, then you have to reboot your phone after turning off 4G
-If you do use a toggle widget, then you have to remove the widget from your homescreens, then turn off 4G via settings, then reboot.
**To check to see if this is happening, download alogcat off of the market. Look for the lines saying: I/Wimax ( xxx): <DC> Try to establish a connection to DC server.
E/Wimax ( xxx): <DC CONNECT> IO error: msg=’/xxx.x.x.x:xxxx –
Connection refused’
Over and over again.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Go to menu<settings<wireless & networks<mobile networks<disable always on mobile data.
Product F(RED) said:
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you
This will prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also with this, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
6. Everyone has that issue where the first ten percent go the fastest.
This is due to two things. One is that these types of batteries stop charging once they get to 100% to prevent damage, and begin charging again at 90%. This means that you could potentially unplug your seemingly fully charged phone at 90% actual charge. The second is number 6.5.
6.5. Use the trick described in this thread, it works.
My idea behind how often you should do it is once a month, if you flash a new ROM, or if you stop noticing the benefits.
This is the calibration technique recommended by HTC themselves. Check it out!​
7. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
8. People posting screenshots of the Battery screen as proof of long lasting battery are giving statistically irrelevant information.
See HERE That screen shows time since last REBOOT, not last charge. This isn't always the case, but a lot of people will post a lot of things about battery life, but look for definitive screenshots and testing results before you break down and cry due to the poster's life and yours.
9. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to menu>settings>about phone>battery, you can compare the two numbers, "up time" vs. "awake time." Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rouge" and is keeping your phone awake.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the EVO 4G Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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NOTES:
*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 4 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 5-10 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
Hit the "THANKS" button if I help you!
*All this is available in the link in my signature
I just use the power widget for data instead of juice. Don't mind clicking it once before and after I turn the screen on. Also don't always use data when its on..
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martyzidek said:
I just use the power widget for data instead of juice. Don't mind clicking it once before and after I turn the screen on. Also don't always use data when its on..
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I do that also, but the fact that juice only lets your stuff sync at a certain lengthy interval is what really makes it awesome. If you just disable the data period, your stuff won't sync correctly
I only have mail to sync and with that if I go into my mail it syncs. I go on Facebook on the browser so I don't use the app and deleted off my phone. Also I don't use Google mail or friendstream which is all deleted fully off my phone. So I don't have to worry. And most stuff that syncs on here to a set time will have a sync button or sync when you use or go into it anyways. So why not have it just sync when you actually check it? My 2 cents.
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Great guide; good job!
I just turn off the background data, we have more than enough RAM to even need a task manager, I agree it sucks cpu usage and its tedious to close apps constantly and its only needed for low RAM phones these days anyway. Getting +6-8 hours use from a smart phone from moderste use is great Imo. I get great battery life already without much tweaking. I dont get what's the point of underclocking since the 1 ghz is one of the main selling points. I enjoy the obscene speed of the phone. Keep the screen dim and stay off the live wallpapers. Good write up!
Thanks for the tips and the profiles.
martyzidek said:
I only have mail to sync and with that if I go into my mail it syncs. I go on Facebook on the browser so I don't use the app and deleted off my phone. Also I don't use Google mail or friendstream which is all deleted fully off my phone. So I don't have to worry. And most stuff that syncs on here to a set time will have a sync button or sync when you use or go into it anyways. So why not have it just sync when you actually check it? My 2 cents.
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I appreciate your thoughts, but it's just as you said: "I only have.." etc. Other people do it differently, so these tips should help THEM. Glad you know what works for you though
phatmanxxl said:
I just turn off the background data, we have more than enough RAM to even need a task manager, I agree it sucks cpu usage and its tedious to close apps constantly and its only needed for low RAM phones these days anyway. Getting +6-8 hours use from a smart phone from moderste use is great Imo. I get great battery life already without much tweaking. I dont get what's the point of underclocking since the 1 ghz is one of the main selling points. I enjoy the obscene speed of the phone. Keep the screen dim and stay off the live wallpapers. Good write up!
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bigmoogle said:
Thanks for the tips and the profiles.
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bludragon742 said:
Great guide; good job!
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Thanks y'all! Please vote on the poll and rate so more people can see this for longer
Glad it's helping
abkrieger said:
I appreciate your thoughts, but it's just as you said: "I only have.." etc. Other people do it differently, so these tips should help THEM. Glad you know what works for you though
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Anything that syncs has an option somewhere on the widget or app. All you do is hit the refresh button and updates. Same with mail. I go into my mail and it then syncs. So if its that important for friendstream or Facebook to update and sync to a certain setting then by all means juice is for you. Just a waste of battery.
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martyzidek said:
Anything that syncs has an option somewhere on the widget or app. All you do is hit the refresh button and updates. Same with mail. I go into my mail and it then syncs. So if its that important for friendstream or Facebook to update and sync to a certain setting then by all means juice is for you. Just a waste of battery.
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Say for example I have:
Weather widget on homescreen, fb widget, friendstream, news widget, two mail apps in background, google voice for vm...
-To name a few. If you use all of these, then you wouldn't also want to:
Refresh weather widget by clicking on it, which pulls up the menu, then clicking refresh - then clicking on your fb widget, which brings up the menu, and hitting refresh - going to friendstream, clicking on it, menu, refresh - same for news widget - same for mail apps - google voice...
The mail and google voice update in the background, and unless you want them always checking, or going in when you remember and telling it to refresh, the best option is to limit when it has access based on YOUR schedule.
The point of widgets is one-look convenience. Two clicks to sync a widget, taking you off the homescreen, defeats the purpose. Maybe not for you, but most people.
Now, adding all those up, that would be about 15 taps on the screen, taking all over the place, just to have your apps/widgets do what they are supposed to do. No thanks. I would rather click zero times, and have EVERYTHING sync at one time, in intervals of my choosing.
To each his own I guess
You use setcpu with kingxkernal?
phatmanxxl said:
I just turn off the background data,
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exactly what is the background data?
what data gets synced in the backgrounds? and if u turn that off, when does it actually sync that data?
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exactly what is the background data?
what data gets synced in the backgrounds? and if u turn that off, when does it actually sync that data?
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You would manually have to sync data.
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You use setcpu with kingxkernal?
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No I've stopped using it with the kingkernels as per his request.
EDIT: It's supposedly HAVS kernels in general.
JUST BUMPIN THE THREAD.
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
Great thread... I have found a good tsk killer called "system panel" it cost a cpl bucks in the market but its worth it... Old task killer apps stored working when froyo was released... System panel still works, plus it gives you a lot more control over your phone by telling you what is using what from your battery... In conjunction with juice defender... Too have the best offense to defend your charges!
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JayStation3 said:
Great thread... I have found a good tsk killer called "system panel" it cost a cpl bucks in the market but its worth it... Old task killer apps stored working when froyo was released... System panel still works, plus it gives you a lot more control over your phone by telling you what is using what from your battery... In conjunction with juice defender... Too have the best offense to defend your charges!
Sent from the MATRIX... while plugged into my EVO... using the XDA app... from a galaxy far-far away.......
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I've had system panel pro since the day I bought my phone
Product F(RED) said:
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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I'll add this to the OP, thanks for the clear description!
Biofall said:
Over the months I have been an Evo user, I have collected some valuable information that all users should probably know in regards to maximizing battery life. Here they are
My tips for good battery life:
1. Turn off all radios when not in use (gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g) using a widget like the default HTC power widget or Switchpro from the market.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks
^^^^**** IMPORTANT DISCOVERY****^^^^
When you turn on your 4G radio, then turn it off, it will keep scanning and turning off all by itself.
The problem is apparently exacerbated by a 4G toggle widget, which causes the phone to automatically turn on 4G at boot. This repeating of scanning and disconnecting severely drains battery life, and sadly, no matter what ROM or kernel you use, there is only one way to fix it:
-If you don’t use the toggle widget, then you have to reboot your phone after turning off 4G
-If you do use a toggle widget, then you have to remove the widget from your homescreens, then turn off 4G via settings, then reboot.
**To check to see if this is happening, download alogcat off of the market. Look for the lines saying: I/Wimax ( xxx): <DC> Try to establish a connection to DC server.
E/Wimax ( xxx): <DC CONNECT> IO error: msg=’/xxx.x.x.x:xxxx –
Connection refused’
Over and over again.
5. Go to menu<settings<wireless & networks<mobile networks<disable always on mobile data
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Wow, this is awesome man. #1 is a huge discovery for sure. we just got 4g here recently and I started having this huge battery drain problem. I have been monitoring my phone with system panel and found "suspend" to running my cpu full bore 100% of the time.
if your search for suspend you can find a few threads here and over at androidforums. no one had seemed to find the issue of why suspend is always running. but it is for me definitely being caused by 4g as you describe.
I didn't think it was 4g because I found a wimax process at 0%
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but after playing with 4g and your ideas here I can make this suspend start and stop at will now.
some screen shots of system panel with the suspend issue on.
here are some screen shots after finding this thread last night around midnight and killing 4g and rebooting.
thanks, this saved me from loading up an older nandroid that I didn't have this issue. but now I know its not rom or app related.
here is what I did to stop suspend/4g from running. I keep mobile data always on unchecked. and I use a 4g toggle from switch pro (well not anymore)
I turned off 4g through my toggle. reboot phone, suspend is still running and the phone will not sleep. I then go into settings - wireless & networks - mobile networks, I then check mobile data always on and then uncheck it. suspend will now stop and phone will sleep. data always on check and uncheck only works after a reboot.
anyways I think this find is awesome! and maybe we should mention that this 4g problem and this suspend process are one in the same. as it seems people have been having this suspend process problem for months on end with no solution.
I really didn't think it could be 4g as I saw wimax process at 0% and a simple reboot didn't end it. I thought it had to be an app.
thanks bro

Can anyone explain awful battery life?

Hi guys,
Found that I had awful battery life today, using Galaxy Pack live wallpaper, and autobrightness (+5)
Is this due to the live wallpaper or why else would I get this problem?
Battery stats posted
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11pe6ozrkhuqvi7/2014-06-11 17.20.21.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gma8puz48ixa88/2014-06-11 17.20.15.png
not looking for solutions, just explanations,
Thanks!!
Task killer, clean master, antivirus??? Or batery should be old or broken.
Its battery live shorter than one day?
verny94 said:
Task killer, clean master, antivirus??? Or batery should be old or broken.
Its battery live shorter than one day?
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Not using any of these. New phone so doubt battery responsible. Do you think its the wallpaper? Just made it through one day at college.
ant2555 said:
Hi guys,
Found that I had awful battery life today, using Galaxy Pack live wallpaper, and autobrightness (+5)
Is this due to the live wallpaper or why else would I get this problem?
Battery stats posted
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11pe6ozrkhuqvi7/2014-06-11 17.20.21.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gma8puz48ixa88/2014-06-11 17.20.15.png
not looking for solutions, just explanations,
Thanks!!
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That must be a really hard battery sucking wallpaper you got there mate. With only 2 h screen on I could last at least 2 days without charging.
Do you have s-voice on and wake up command? These were the only apps that consumed that much as I remember. Or did you run any battery consuming apps? It shouldn't be the wallpaper but you can still try yourself.
If you are on stock rom it could also be the KitKat update. I read a lot about it being pretty battery unfriendly.
4aces said:
That must be a really hard battery sucking wallpaper you got there mate. With only 2 h screen on I could last at least 2 days without charging.
Do you have s-voice on and wake up command? These were the only apps that consumed that much as I remember. Or did you run any battery consuming apps? It shouldn't be the wallpaper but you can still try yourself.
If you are on stock rom it could also be the KitKat update. I read a lot about it being pretty battery unfriendly.
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Im using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.galaxypacklivewallpaper
Dont use s- voice or wake up command, but may have left apps running in RAM maybe. Battery has been 3 hours screen on most days so I dont know whats happened!
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Im using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.galaxypacklivewallpaper
Dont use s- voice or wake up command, but may have left apps running in RAM maybe. Battery has been 3 hours screen on most days so I dont know whats happened!
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Can you go one day without it and post your Battery stats? It's kinda hard to believe it is the wallpaper because:
1. Your screen was only on for 2-3 hours
2. The screen consumption is lower than Android OS and System
Does the wallpaper have any extra features?
Edit. Did you play or stay in the internet?
4aces said:
Can you go one day without it and post your Battery stats? It's kinda hard to believe it is the wallpaper because:
1. Your screen was only on for 2-3 hours
2. The screen consumption is lower than Android OS and System
Does the wallpaper have any extra features?
Edit. Did you play or stay in the internet?
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There are extra features, but I have turned these off.
Did use internet but not for long
I will try changing the wallpaper. Can't think what else it could be - my phone was warming up in my pocket, with nothing in recent apps. Also wouldn't a live wallpaper be included in OS and System rather than anywhere else?
ant2555 said:
There are extra features, but I have turned these off.
Did use internet but not for long
I will try changing the wallpaper. Can't think what else it could be - my phone was warming up in my pocket, with nothing in recent apps. Also wouldn't a live wallpaper be included in OS and System rather than anywhere else?
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It shouldn't be consuming when screen is off. Just checked mine:
4 hours on with screen consuming 47% and still 80% charged locked my phone consumes like 1% in 6 hours
(But I'm rooted and fully modded to your phones defense)
Edit. Unless you can say that it doesn't consume that much when not having the wallpaper I would guess it is a KitKat issue or your battery really has a problem
Final Question:
@ant2555 sorry I don't know since I was rooted since jelly bean I never had the chance to look into that. I just read a lot about it being a known 4.4.2 issue. The 4.4.3 update is said to get rid of that
4aces said:
It shouldn't be consuming when screen is off. Just checked mine:
4 hours on with screen consuming 47% and still 80% charged locked my phone consumes like 1% in 6 hours
(But I'm rooted and fully modded to your phones defense)
Edit. Unless you can say that it doesn't consume that much when not having the wallpaper I would guess it is a KitKat issue or your battery really has a problem
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Ok, I'll get back to you either tomorrow or the day after depending on results.
Final question for now, do you know what the common causes of "android system" using that much battery are?
I've been using that wallpaper for almost 4 months without a drain issue. It's not the wallpaper. (maxelus.net is one of the better wallpaper devs. You need not worry about these causing a drain.)
The wallpaper does have a setting for battery saving in its settings (all the way at the bottom as 'Battery. Wallpaper Speed'). Try turning that on.
From the looks of it, you have Sync turned on. Turn if off. (drag down the notidication bar and scroll to the Sync toggle.)
Also, turn off all location services (In settings and in Google Settings(that's an app)).
And try disabling all sounds under settings --> device --> Sounds --> system. (You can elave haptic feedback on if you want.)
Do you have an SD card in your phone?
I found that my Note 3 lasts longer without one. It might just be a problem with certain brands, but mine would heat up considerably and cause the indexing service to go into overdrive.
If you have an SD card, try running your phone without it for a little while and see if that makes a difference.
I discovered that after charging my phone a couple of times I get a false charge which can imitate battery drain, try this code *#0228# after hitting it click Quick Start, hope that helps, if not do a complete wipe for all apps and only download trusted ones. Good luck
Android is and kernel killing my battery. Don't know what has changed in last few days but I'm getting 5 to 8 hours on a full charge
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columbo said:
Do you have an SD card in your phone?
I found that my Note 3 lasts longer without one. It might just be a problem with certain brands, but mine would heat up considerably and cause the indexing service to go into overdrive.
If you have an SD card, try running your phone without it for a little while and see if that makes a difference.
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Sorry for a few days, delay been doing some extensive testing. I tried without the SD card and my battery stats became even worse! See picture!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tq6tqrm0z7klkr/2014-06-18 17.29.14.png
ShadowLea said:
I've been using that wallpaper for almost 4 months without a drain issue. It's not the wallpaper. (maxelus.net is one of the better wallpaper devs. You need not worry about these causing a drain.)
The wallpaper does have a setting for battery saving in its settings (all the way at the bottom as 'Battery. Wallpaper Speed'). Try turning that on.
From the looks of it, you have Sync turned on. Turn if off. (drag down the notidication bar and scroll to the Sync toggle.)
Also, turn off all location services (In settings and in Google Settings(that's an app)).
And try disabling all sounds under settings --> device --> Sounds --> system. (You can elave haptic feedback on if you want.)
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Yeah, Sync was turned on and I'll try turning it, and location services off (location was on power saver mode before)
However take a look at some of my battery stats they seem very odd.
One day they seem perfectly normal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0pprase2tqiwcq8/2014-06-12 22.38.17.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11pe6ozrkhuqvi7/2014-06-11 17.20.21.png
and the next they seem awful with odd draining issues, and heating up in my pocket during the day. One possible cause I thought of was because the phone was on "increased touch sensitivity mode" so may have been turning itself on in my pocket all day.
Here are some bad days:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0kmo7ppj0n1vc0/2014-06-17 20.13.24.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlmsxhr3v6z2vl4/2014-06-17 20.29.34.png
and on a separate day: the previously mentioned: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tq6tqrm0z7klkr/2014-06-18 17.29.14.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2r5hyc5ji2ez32/2014-06-18 17.30.54.png
ant2555 said:
Sorry for a few days, delay been doing some extensive testing. I tried without the SD card and my battery stats became even worse! See picture!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tq6tqrm0z7klkr/2014-06-18 17.29.14.png
Yeah, Sync was turned on and I'll try turning it, and location services off (location was on power saver mode before)
However take a look at some of my battery stats they seem very odd.
One day they seem perfectly normal: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0pprase2tqiwcq8/2014-06-12 22.38.17.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11pe6ozrkhuqvi7/2014-06-11 17.20.21.png
and the next they seem awful with odd draining issues, and heating up in my pocket during the day. One possible cause I thought of was because the phone was on "increased touch sensitivity mode" so may have been turning itself on in my pocket all day.
Here are some bad days:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0kmo7ppj0n1vc0/2014-06-17 20.13.24.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlmsxhr3v6z2vl4/2014-06-17 20.29.34.png
and on a separate day: the previously mentioned: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tq6tqrm0z7klkr/2014-06-18 17.29.14.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q2r5hyc5ji2ez32/2014-06-18 17.30.54.png
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Ahh, Google Services. That annoying bugger again. It's been causing problems on several devices.
What you can try:
Google Settings > Ads > turn on "Opt out of interest-based ads"
Disable back up under Settings > Backup & reset > uncheck "Back up my data".
Turn off Google Now.
And you can try uninstalling the recent updates to Google Play Services under settings > Applicationmanager > All > Google Play Services. Force stop, clear data, clear cache and uninstall updates (be sure to turn off auto update apps in Google Play Store first or it'll come back nearly instantly).

[Guide] Battery & Performance Tips

Just thought I’d put a short guide together on what I think are some things to do to get the most out of your spanking new Samsung S6 when you get it or you already have it. Most of you guys might already know most of this or might not. Just thought it might help some people. This ain’t rocket science but every little bit helps!
Battery:
This is the hardest thing to do because like a fingerprint everyone has a different set up with apps and how they use their phone (wifi vs 3g vs 4g etc) that screen on time will always vary. Also you don’t want to turn everything off and cripple your brand new smartphone just for your battery. There’s a balance.
However here are some general things to do that do help:
1. Install Greenify from the Playstore. I have found this is the number one way to stop drainage. This app will hibernate apps when not in use. It doesn’t stop their functionality at all but hibernates them.
2. Don’t use Google Now. I think it’s a gimmick and does bugger all for me however if you use it it will drain your battery big time. Of course if you love it then use it!
3. Don’t use location services. Another big drainer. Just use it when you need it. However if you have apps that need it then of course leave it on!
4. Use ‘auto’ on screen brightness.
4. Don't use the Facebook app. It's a massive drain of battery. And Facebook is awful.
5. If you continue to get big drainage then download Gsam battery from the Playstore and look at the ‘wakelocks’ – this way you will be able to see what’s draining your battery. As a general rule your phone should go into deep sleep for at least 80% of the time.
This way you should get 5+ plus hours of Screen on Time.
Performance:
Here are a few things only that really do help with speed and performance - even though this phone really doesn't need it it still helps!:
1. Go to Dev Options and change the transition animation scale, the animator duration scale and the window animation scale to 0.5. This little thing speeds up your phone like nothing else.
2. Root* your phone with Cf auto root. And then start debloating. Get rid of whatever you want by downloading Titanium Backup and going into each app and freezing whatever you want. Freezing is safer than uninstalling but does the same thing. Debloating is a must!
*And yes I know the Knox arguments for not rooting but I've rooted every Samsung phone I've ever owned and sold every Samsung phone I've ever owned.
*And yes I know that you won't be able to use Samsung Pay but it ain't coming out for months and there's too much freedom you get from rooting to not do it because of this.
Just an FYI... Google Now does not drain your battery!!
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Just an FYI... Google Now does not drain your battery!!
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https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en-AU&ie=UTF-8&source=boatbrowser&q=Google+now+drains+battery
poczynek said:
Just thought I’d put a short guide together on what I think are some things to do to get the most out of your spanking new Samsung S6 when you get it or you already have it. Most of you guys might already know most of this or might not. Just thought it might help some people. This ain’t rocket science but every little bit helps!
Battery:
This is the hardest thing to do because like a fingerprint everyone has a different set up with apps and how they use their phone (wifi vs 3g vs 4g etc) that screen on time will always vary. Also you don’t want to turn everything off and cripple your brand new smartphone just for your battery. There’s a balance.
However here are some general things to do that do help:
1. Install Greenify from the Playstore. I have found this is the number one way to stop drainage. This app will hibernate apps when not in use. It doesn’t stop their functionality at all but hibernates them.
2. Don’t use Google Now. I think it’s a gimmick and does bugger all for me however if you use it it will drain your battery big time. Of course if you love it then use it!
3. Don’t use location services. Another big drainer. Just use it when you need it. However if you have apps that need it then of course leave it on!
4. Use ‘auto’ on screen brightness.
4. Don't use the Facebook app. It's a massive drain of battery. And Facebook is awful.
5. If you continue to get big drainage then download Gsam battery from the Playstore and look at the ‘wakelocks’ – this way you will be able to see what’s draining your battery. As a general rule your phone should go into deep sleep for at least 80% of the time.
This way you should get 5+ plus hours of Screen on Time.
Performance:
Here are a few things only that really do help with speed and performance - even though this phone really doesn't need it it still helps!:
1. Go to Dev Options and change the transition animation scale, the animator duration scale and the window animation scale to 0.5. This little thing speeds up your phone like nothing else.
2. Root* your phone with Cf auto root. And then start debloating. Get rid of whatever you want by downloading Titanium Backup and going into each app and freezing whatever you want. Freezing is safer than uninstalling but does the same thing. Debloating is a must!
*And yes I know the Knox arguments for not rooting but I've rooted every Samsung phone I've ever owned and sold every Samsung phone I've ever owned.
*And yes I know that you won't be able to use Samsung Pay but it ain't coming out for months and there's too much freedom you get from rooting to not do it because of this.
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do you have any battery life screenshots of your s6 with these steps done?
This is not untrue advice but it is also not new to this device at all. This is the same advice on android years ago and it's basically saying turn off everything that drains the battery then you get 5 hours of screen on time. Well most people want to use google now, facebook, and location services so that defeats the purpose of the phone. Really there needs to be some serious improvements in battery tech but so far we as consumers are allowing companies to get away with putting sub par battery performance in their flagship phones and we keep buying them anyway. I am guilty of it too but it does not give companies any real incentive to focus on battery life.
poczynek said:
https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en-AU&ie=UTF-8&source=boatbrowser&q=Google+now+drains+battery
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Every link is like 6+ months old. It will not drain your battery if you keep location off...
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Every link is like 6+ months old. It will not drain your battery if you keep location off...
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Of course if you turn location off but that's the point - it's made to be used with location on which will drain battery.
poczynek said:
Of course if you turn location off but that's the point - it's made to be used with location on which will drain battery.
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I have a Tasker profile set to automatically turn on GPS whenever I go into Google Now, then as an exit task it automatically turns off GPS. So no battery drain for me :good:
JoeFCaputo113 said:
I have a Tasker profile set to automatically turn on GPS whenever I go into Google Now, then as an exit task it automatically turns off GPS. So no battery drain for me :good:
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How does this help you get the benefit of google now such as parking reminders, etc?
km8j said:
How does this help you get the benefit of google now such as parking reminders, etc?
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Parking reminders?? I don't need that as I live in upstate NY (Dutchess County)... pretty hard to forget where you park your car lol.
@poczynek
I have a GS4, and I'm looking to get a GS6 soon.
I have read your post and I am not sure if what you claim will bring any evident increase in battery life at all.
1. Greenify - What does it do? Why should I greenify an app? What apps/services did you greenify to give you an increase in battery life?
I can't say for sure but if I ran my GS4 without disabling apps vs disabled apps I bet the battery life/screen on time would be similar.
However I did disable a whole bunch of Samsung and other bloatware apps that came on my phone because I don't want their bugs or services to be running unnecessarily.
I have a looked at Greenify to some detail and thought to myself why bother? All of the services and apps that are running are fine...why would I need another app "Greenify" to manage something that is native in Android which is to simply disable bloatware apps.
Please provide a real example of what you would Greenify, as opposed to simply disable and what/how it benefits you?
I think I have over 70 apps disabled on my GS4 because they are things that I don't use.
2. Google Now - well this depends on if you use Google Now Everywhere, with it's ability to talk to the phone by saying "OK Google". In addition, Google Now has that card system which will send you news and other related cards based on what "you" the user configures. I'm not sure if you do setup all of these cards results in a great amount of battery drain either. I personally don't use Google Now voice activation or the cards, but I have not disabled the app.
I can agree with you that Google Now's voice system will drain the battery, but that's expected because it is always listening (if you enable that).
3. Location Services - by this you mean the GPS/Cell/WiFi location capabilities? I can tell you that I leave my GPS on GPS Only mode. I don't want my phone to use cell towers or WiFi to help improve upon the location of me. I have had no issues with doing this. I do believe if I use cell towers and WiFi to improve my location then the battery drain will be higher, but wouldn't that be dependent on if an app uses the location in the first place?
I mean, if I have my location set to highest accuracy and I leave my phone on over night, there should be no apps that would utilize the location services. Unless an app, for example Google Now decided to check where I am, I don't see the problem of leaving your location services set to high accuracy.
I personally use GPS only and I can confirm that no app triggers the location services during the day or night unless I open an app that requires it, for example Google Maps or a Weather app that I may be using the GPS to gather my location information. PS: I use AccuWeather and I have disabled use GPS for location and rather it uses my actual location based on my city and state.
4. Auto Brightness - although Samsung has one of the best auto brightness sensors for Android, there is much controversy (google it) that Android drains a lot of battery when using Auto brightness because it has to constantly use the light sensor to determine your screen's brightness.
When I got my GS4 I immediately disabled auto brightness and I manually control it, simply have 3 settings. I have 10% brightness for day time use, 100% for outdoor/car use, and 10% with screen filter set to 20% for bed use (late night and early morning). I will be doing the same with the GS6.
I can't speak entirely for auto brightness and whether it saves or consumes battery life, but from my research, people should just manually control it as opposed to using auto brightness, the exceptions are iPhones and Samsung phones.
Furthermore, during my testing, I ran a Geekbench 3 battery life test on my phone with the following conditions.
WiFi, GPS = On
Screen Brightness 10%
Bluetooth, Mobile Data, NFC = Off
Result = 2 hours and 55 minutes (screen on time)
Same test with screen brightness 100%, result = 2 hours and 45 minutes (screen on time).
This shows that in continuous use the real world difference in battery life between 10% and 100% brightness is only 10 minutes. Remember this is for the GS4. I am not sure how the GS6 will handle both extremes in terms of battery life for the screen brightness. My guess is that there will be little difference between using 10% and 100% in real world numbers like shown above.
5. Facebook and FB Messenger - you state don't use it but don't pose an alternative, let's be realistic a ton of people use it, by simply stating don't use it and not providing an alternative is somewhat pointless. My GS4 is rooted and I have been using BetterBatteryStats (BBS) for 2 years now and I can say for certain that FB does not drain the battery. However I can see that FB and Messenger do create a lot of Alarms, about 10 - 30 per hour. But when I look for Kernal or Partial wakelocks I see no correlation to battery drain.
I have even removed both apps from my phone and used my phone during a regular work week and I have found no real world difference in battery life.
However it is possible that FB and Messenger could have had a bug that caused battery drain, I have physically seen this issue with Viber and cross checked with BBS to confirm. But that was an old version of Viber, and since then Viber has been working fine.
I personally helped Jango Radio fix their battery drain issues. For example you open the app press the home key, then you will see that your phone will be awake for as long as the app is sitting in the background. I told the dev team to fix it and they did. I used BBS and watch the Partial wakelocks to confirm the issue.
Your final statement of using Gsam is fine, I've used it too, no battery life monitor is perfect, but at least they can help determine if there is a rogue app.
In terms of performance, I agree with doing 0.5x for all transitions, it does make a big difference. Less waiting for apps to close/minimize or open.
In terms of rooting and debloating with Titanium backup, that is something that rooted users can do.
I agree uninstalling system apps/pre-loaded apps will give you some space back.
Freezing an app versus disabling an app...well disabling should be good enough for people especially since you don't need root.
If you freeze/greenify apps versus simply disabling apps you don't need/use I'm sure the performance improvements would be identical, however I don't think there is much of an improvement regarding either methods.
A simple way to test this is to take a stock S6, run a benchmark, like Geekbench, and then root the S6 and freeze everything that is not needed and run Geekbench again. If there is no real numerical change in the benchmark, then I really doubt you will feel a real world difference in performance.
Let me know what you think.
MysticGolem said:
@poczynek
5. Facebook and FB Messenger - you state don't use it but don't pose an alternative, let's be realistic a ton of people use it, by simply stating don't use it and not providing an alternative is somewhat pointless. My GS4 is rooted and I have been using BetterBatteryStats (BBS) for 2 years now and I can say for certain that FB does not drain the battery. However I can see that FB and Messenger do create a lot of Alarms, about 10 - 30 per hour. But when I look for Kernal or Partial wakelocks I see no correlation to battery drain.
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Browse to Facebook on your phone using Chrome then go to chrome settings and press "add to home screen". Problem solved [emoji6]
I do this and get much better standby battery life. I can't part with messenger though, but you can access your messages from the mobile site too if you don't care about getting notifications.
Let's use the most powerful Android smartphone currently on the market as a dumb phone is basically the gist of the advice given!
Thanks for your tips. Useful for me
Just scored 29hours runtime i thought impossible in first few days. With just lux app and tasker auto sync only. No root.
Edit: with greenify too but i find it useless without root
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Jesus, you've basically disabled your phone, why not just return it and go with a pre-paid flip phone? Listen I understand there's definitely a battery issue with the S6 but come on guys, just have a charger with you until this is addressed via an OTA update or something.
Using GSAM, how do I see Wakelocks and how do I see Deep Sleep?
TL24 said:
Jesus, you've basically disabled your phone, why not just return it and go with a pre-paid flip phone? Listen I understand there's definitely a battery issue with the S6 but come on guys, just have a charger with you until this is addressed via an OTA update or something.
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Good luck with that [emoji1]
There is mucho more things i would like to disable of course. And they are useless to me too. I just shared my settings no need for calling flip phone unless it is samsung i9230 [emoji16]
JoeFCaputo113 said:
I have a Tasker profile set to automatically turn on GPS whenever I go into Google Now, then as an exit task it automatically turns off GPS. So no battery drain for me :good:
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I know this is old, but can you lay out how you set up this tasker profile? I'm rooted, with secure settings installed, but gps is still inaccessible through tasker. tia
fachadick said:
I know this is old, but can you lay out how you set up this tasker profile? I'm rooted, with secure settings installed, but gps is still inaccessible through tasker. tia
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1. Go to profiles
2. Click the "+" in the bottom right
3. Click application
4. Select maps and any other app you want to automatically turn on GPS
5. Add task... Secure settings GPS on

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