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Any Battery power saving tips?

So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?

ATOJAR said:
So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
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I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app ON rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun

warriorvibhu said:
I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app on rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
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Yeah ive been using the Advanced Task Killer for a while now already.

I have read that usage of ATK is not required at all because of Androids near perfect RAM Management. And you also could come into trouble because android looses a small amount of ram capacity every time you use ATK untill the next reboot.
other than that you could try Juice Plotter and Juice Defender

find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.

rasenzhang said:
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
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use the automatic brigtness option under the phone settings. much better batterty performance

Read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Not sure if these steps actually improve the efficency of the battery OR wheter the S/W behind the battery guage becomes more accurate as it goes through a process that alows it to better estimate the SOC of the battery.
Andy

Yup, even I have read a lot that Android manages the apps in a beautiful way. When I first used Android, the first question that came to my mind was how to exit apps as none of the apps had an exit button. Coming from nokia, sony erricson etc this was an obvious question to ask. Then after some research I found that Android just freezes the apps when we go back. The app is not actually running in the back end.
But anyway, yesterday my battery again went to 8% and on checking the used status, it showed that the android system used 92% of the battery lol.
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.

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One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
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Thanks for this!
I installed this widget and it said that GPS was on even though it wasn't appearing in the tool bar along the top. I had run several apps that use GPS, but had assumed if the GPS icon was gone, GPS was off.
Is that wrong?
(good news if it is, as I was struggling to keep enough power to in my phone to get through the day without charging)
joan

Avoid task killers like the plague. They cause more problems than they solve. Trust the android os to manage ram.
Just discovered the most powerful app I have ever seen called "Tasker". It its only £4, but will make your android so much more diverse. You can, for example, have it go into airplane mode between certain times (i have between midnight and 6am) but periodically check for sms or voice mail every hour. It saves stacks of battery.
I have it turning wifi on only when it knows I'm at home or at work.
I have it turning off wifi, dropping screen brightness down, and playing a louder notification when battery gets to 15%.
It silences my phone when I get within 100m of the two cinemas I use.
It is not the most easy app to use, be patient with it. Look up some of the "recipes" on the internet to get a good tutorial on how to work it. £4 is a steal for something so potentially vast. Its limited only by your imagination.
Oh and having run Tasker for 24 hours, (how long my battery normally lasts) only contributes to a 2% drain, and its adding roughly 6 to 8 hours extra! It would cost you ten times that for an extended battery!

I use an free app called timeriffic to auto disable WiFi
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Try program JuiceDefender....you can download free from Android market.

my battery life is really awful too,i noticed it a couple days ago,that it drains to fast,so i started looking into it,and i found out,that my device won't go too sleep. so in settings/about phone/battery the awake time and up time are the same. i had similar problems on my hero, but there it was the messaging apps fault.
here, i kill everything with advanced task killer,it still can't go too sleep,android battery use shows,that android system is using most of the battery.
anybody else with similar problem?solutions? i have stock 1.25 rom rooted with unrevoked.

What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
Ive head bad things about using task killers too, I dont use on anymore.
Some things i have done that have helped my battery like quit alot actually is turn off Wi-Fi, Turm off GPS, Turned off haptic feedback(vibration when pressing buttons), Screen brightness to automatic & screen timeout too 15 seconds.
I can now have a really good fiddle with the phone and it can last more than a day without needing a charge.

As I understand when screen goes auto shut off, all apps are idle, even WiFi or gps is on. I tried with music on continuously for 2 hrs in flight mode, I still have about 80% power. With gps on for 1 hr continuous, I still have about 80%. With normal use my power can last the whole day.
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What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
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no,the screen turns off,but something still runs in the background what eats the battery,and I can't find out what it is. I tried multiple task managers,and they show that everything is closed.i have it in flight mode,with everything turned off,still something runs,what shouldn't.

Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.

jefmcg said:
Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
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2 updates from me, to help anyone else with similar problems:
1) I uninstalled any recently installed or updated apps** and widgets now I have a 1:6 ratio of awake time. So, fixed?
2) In the meantime I logged a call to HTC via their website. Answer:
With regards to your problem, if the battery is going down significantly and you have turned of applications when your not using them and used task killer. It might be better to call us up so we cann look into it further and we might have to book the phone in for repair especially if you have noticed it not charging properly or overheating at any time.
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Yup, those problems started occurring at the same time as the other, so it looks like I have an underlying hardware fault. Dammit! I don't want to be without my phone for 2 weeks.
joan
**including CardioTrainer! When I reinstalled it I'd lost around 900km of workout history.

Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?

ebioman said:
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
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If you are asking me, the answer is "about 6 hours".
I've (partially) fixed my uptime = awaketime problem. But I obviously have some more serious battery issue.
Hopefully someone else can chime in with happy battery life.
joan

My battery advice to those who need battery help

I keep reading on here about how either someones battery life is either awesome or great or this or that. It seems that many folks on here with great battery life are old pros at milking their phones for the best battery life possible, while others may not know the best methods for getting the optimal battery life they want.
So here are some tips for getting the battery life you want:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
Update: It is recommended that you do not do this very often as some say it could damage the battery in the long term. You should do this early on in the life of the phone as the damage if any would be minimal. This needs to be done regardless. It is the only way for the phone to get an accurate full/zero reading.
Update 2: I have found that after doing a factory reset, you need to do this step again. After a factory reset on 4.1.83 (most recent update), my battery life dropped considerably. After letting it discharge fully and then charging it with the phone off again, I was back to normal battery use.
2) Set wifi to sleep when the phone is not in use. Unless you are streaming data such as pandora or other data intensive programs with the screen off, you do not need it on (I will talk about background data in a moment for those who are going to mention that the phone still does data while it is sleeping). You can change the setting by going to Settings > Wireless networks > wifi settings > menu button > advanced > wifi sleep policy
ofek said:
You should write that after settings it you need to click on menu button->save.
If you will not do this step, every reboot it will restored to "Never" option.
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3) Disable motoblur's account settings sync over cell data. This setting causes all of your account information to sync over your data connection when wifi is not available. This should be disabled as it will constantly sync and drain your battery even when the screen is off. Really do you need you facebook contacts that are synced to your contacts to be updated every five minutes? Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery > social apps > sync over wifi.
Update: Only disable the Social Apps that sync over background, do not disable the Background data. Disabling background data will cause certain things to not work properly, like for instance the gmail app.
Update 2: If you are using the Twitter/facebook/whatever apps (real apps) you should go ahead and remove the associated accounts from Motoblur. You do not need them to sync twice as motoblur will sync them with it's account and then the apps will sync. The downside to this though is that any contact pictures you have synced from those accounts will no longer show up in contacts forcing you to manually add pictures to your contacts.
4) remove widgets. Widgets drain batteries when they are active. Most of them are useless and really serve no purpose other than to try and make you feel important about yourself. I mean really, how useful is a facebook widget that only shows one or two peoples updates? Trash the ones you can live without. If you are using a launcher other than motoblur, go and load motoblur and make certain there are none running on that launcher as those are still active even if you use another launcher.
5) live wallpapers suck battery like crazy. While they are nice eye candy to view, they are not worth the drain they cause. Even when you are in a app, just like the widgets, they are draining your battery.
Update: Some live wallpapers are better on battery drain than others, but they still drain battery either way. I will not use a live wallpaper as it serves no purpose other than eye candy, and eye candy on a phone I can live without.
6) Task killers. Yeah not going to touch this one as everyone who reads these forums should know better by now.
7) check individual programs as you install them and make certain they do not autoupdate content. Pulse news reader is a good example of a program that pulls data in the background even when you haven't used it in weeks. Really is it going to kill you to hit refresh when you load it?
Update: If you are using the AT&T program "Mark the Spot", it constantly is checking device performance and is constantly checking your location for it to "work". Be sure to watch this app as it drains a lot of battery through out the day.
8) turn off bluetooth, gps, and wifi when you are not actively using them. Wifi when on is always scanning the area for networks, bluetooth is always actively broadcasting (on some phones) and who needs gps when you aren't on the move.
Update: If you are experiencing a switch from H+ to Edge frequently such as in your home where you have wifi running and do not have a AT&T cell device, then turn off your data connection. Your phone is constantly trying to connect to the H+ network when it isn't already connected and draining power. If you are on WiFi, then your data connection is not needed.
I have heard Tasker is great for setting up an automatic script on your phone to do it for you so you don't have to think about it, but remember that all extra programs including tasker eat away at your battery and without real world testing, I can not promise you will see an improvement or a loss in battery.
You can also use APNDroid to do it manually if you would rather have full controll of your data connection.
9) Quit watching porn on your phone. Use your computer for that. Ok maybe I am the only one who does this but I doubt it. Alot if the free poem sites use flash videos and the more you use flash the faster your battery drains.
Update: Yes I know this is hard (no pun intended) for some of you to do, but the idea is sound. Using flash videos (the bulk (again no pun intended) of porn videos use flash).
These are not the only ways to have a great battery and this information may not be useful to you, but I can go nearly 20 hours of moderate to heavy phone use and still have anywhere from 40 to 60 percent battery left at the end of the day.
If anyone has any other advice that they feel should be listed here, please let me know and I will gladly add it to the mix.
Good luck folks.
Addition (5/12/11)
10) For those of you with the .83 update, please keep in mind that the update now forces you onto the EDGE (2G) Network if it can receive a better signal/stable connection. If you notice you are on EDGE more often than the H+ network, then disable your data connection. What is happening is that even though you have a solid connection to the EDGE network, your phone is constantly seeking the H+/3G networks thus using much more battery life than before. If you are at home or somewhere where your phone can connect to a wifi network, consider turning off the Data network. You should also disable your data connection whenever you are in a No Signal area. Again the same problem happens when you have no signal.
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Advice from other Members:
From Deggy
I would like to add to the OP's list of things to do to improve battery life:
Turn off date when not in use for a long period of time like work or school. Settings -> Date manager -> Date delivery -> uncheck Backround data and Data enabled. Don't worry, you'll still get your texts and phone calls.
The Market is a big drainer. Market -> hit menu -> settings -> change notify me -> do not notify me.
Those two are the big ones to worry about IMO.
The other tips are either cliche stuff or other people said already. Wifi off, GPS off, brightness down to 0-20%, ect. Auto sync is killer.
I unplug my phone at 9AM and come home from work at 9PM and my phone says 75% with moderate use (Circle battery widget uses 1% increments). 3-4 phone calls. A LOT of texting (wifey likes text me). Internet during 30 minute lunch. Play Words with Friends a good amount.
I don't use live wallpaper but I do use a darker colored static one. Only got 4-5 widgets on my screen. 3 home screens. Using Launcher Pro.
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pookeyster said:
In some of the other battery threads, ppl have been commenting on how they've had success in extending the battery life after a hard factory reset. What that basically does is it deletes and regenerates the batterystats.bin file in /data/system and if the battery was essentially mis-calibrated prior to the reset, the reset fixes it thus giving better measurements. ie. perhaps after 10hrs of usage the phone might say u have 5% left, but in reality you could have 40% left.. the regeneratin of batterystats.bin would recalculate that correctly
if you want the benefits of having that reset process but rather not go through having to restore all ur apps/back them up.. u could always manually go and delete the batterystats.bin file (only if you're rooted). i would recommend deleting the file after fully charging the phone overnight then unplug it so that it generates the file again. if you'd prefer an app to do this for you automatically you could always go to the marketplace and get 'battery calibration' app for free and it does the same thing
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cybal said:
My want to include details about corp email sync. Using "push data" can really chew up the battery and is probably not better then retrieving email every 15 or 30 mins for most people. There may also be a problem with setting a long history time such as 1 month.
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The following was posted on the MotoAtrix forums on Motorola's website. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/51776
I've seen a lot of posts in a lot of threads about how to save battery life on the Atrix. So, I figured I'd start a consolidated thread on the matter. These are the tips 'n tricks I've used, and I can get 2 days of battery life on the Atrix now.
1. When I first got the Atrix, before turning it on, I charged it for 4 hours. After turning it on, I let it run until it died, then re-charged for 8 hours. I did that for a full week. They say that this isn't needed with the new-fangled batteries, but I have always done this, and have always gotten great results.
2. Live wallpapers are not your friend, especially in two circumstances: 1. you use your phone a lot, and 2. you use the stock unlock screen where everytime the phone wakes the live wallpaper is playing. Granted, they don't eat up much battery, but if you're looking to get every ounce/percentage out of your phone, it's a luxury you can leave at home.
3. Did you install a new launcher? If so, did you clear out BLUR? I had my BLUR interface up and running with widgets and shortcuts, etc, etc. When I switched to ADW I noticed an increase in battery drain. I re-loaded BLUR and deleted all apps, widgets, etc so BLUR is blank. I now have great battery life with ADW running.
4. Widgets - ugh. They're pretty, they're big, they're animated, and they eat battery like bees eat pollen. Be mindful of them, and be willing to accept the consequences of the "cool factor".
5. Screen timeout. Yes, it's annoying to unlock your phone every 5 minutes, but you do save battery life with a 1-minute or less timeout option set.
6. Close your apps! Many apps, games especially, are fantastic at running in the background on Android, but they're sucking battery. They all restore to your previous position quite well, so if you're done for a few hours, exit it instead of just going back to your launcher screen.
7. "back" vs. "home" - the back button (the reverse arrow) does a much better job of closing down programs than the home button which just brings up your home screen, leaving whatever you were doing to hungrily consume battery like zombies on a corpse.
8. "manage apps" is your friend - go to your app tray, hit the menu button, and select "manage apps" - you can see all the running apps and kill them selectively. Some, like Facebook, Skype, and others, will stay there as long as the phone is on once you use it, unless you kill it. Be forwarned though, you'll stop getting notifications if you do this - another informed tradeoff. I do this once every few days, or if the Atrix seems sluggish.
9. Screen brightness - the "auto" setting doesn't work all that well, but I highly recommend leaving it there, and/or using a screen brightness toggle widget on your home screen to manage this carefully. Screen brightness on maximum will yield the best viewing experience but it does drain battery the fastest of all.
10. Choose your BLUR accounts wisely - like widgets, if you have LinkedIn and Facebook connected through BLUR, it will run ALL THE TIME. Using the native apps from the market will definitely decrease your overall drain and give you better control over when and how your battery is consumed by those services.
11. Auto-kill or be killed - A good rule of thumb for me is to only auto-end a task if you know exactly what it is, and it didn't come with the phone. Chances are if you don't recognize it, even if it looks like something you don't need running, leave it be. If it's something you installed from the Market, and you want it to auto-end, have a field day. If you put something on the auto-end list that the Atrix needs, it will just keep re-starting it. This draws processor time and battery and isn't worth it.
12. (credit: Itsallgood) Check your profile - "settings -> battery" and look at the bottom half of the screen. The Atrix supports multiple battery saving profiles that allows you to control "night time" and whether to actively sync data all the time, never, or only during certain hours. Push mail and active data sync consumes battery at a steady pace. In addition, 3rd party apps (like Settings Profiles) can be downloaded to further tweak and customize everything from vibrate mode, screen, data sync, and more. The more customized your experience to fit your needs only when you need specific services, the better your battery life will be.
Anyway - that's some to get started, feel free to add more!
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wow nice ill try it i have my atrix for a couple of days and i have been like dissapointed i dont wanna do a factory reset or anything like it ill try ur guide and let u kno

Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
Thx
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Mr.Kakarot said:
Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
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You don't have to disable everything, but the things above such as the background data syncs serve no purpose other than to drain a battery. The sync will complete during the next wifi connection and by time you access your contacts it will be done. Besides it'd not like all your contacts change every 30 minutes.
The idea is not so much to limit the experience of android, but to remove the unused features that do nothing for.you. I mean who really needs a youtube widget when the shortcut gets you to youtube just as easily and doesn't drain your battery.
It's the same idea as startup programs on your computer. They serve no purpose other than to slow your system down. Sure quicktime or itunes might load a few seconds faster, but how often do you really load those programs.
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#9 = cant do
u know how they monitor work computer ?

Great Post
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own

keithr1475 said:
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own
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Are you using the gmail app or the default app? Mine works just fine.
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I'm using the Gmail APP

the gmail app doesnt sync on its own because you turn off auto sync
i recommend you use the power control widget and adjust those accordingly

Definitely a good list of things, but felt like commenting on the live wallpapers thing. From what I've experienced, it seems like it depends a lot on the wallpaper used. I initially thought the live wallpaper was one of the main reasons for the short battery life when I first got the phone so I switched to a normal wallpaper. I had that for about a week and generally saw a lot of improvements in battery life as a result of better management and the calibration cycles. After that week, I came across a live wallpaper I liked and decided to enjoy that feature for a bit more. If anything, it seemed like my battery life got a bit better. I've tested it a little, and there's no doubt that some of my live wallpapers drain battery more than others. I've tried switching between a standard wallpaper and my live wallpaper (galaxy live) and I really don't see much of a difference, if any, between the 2.
Question: Does freezing the blur home screen (via titanium backup) disable the widgets on it? I'm assuming it does, since it essentially makes that home screen non-existent as far as the phone is concerned.

Darrell, There are some really good suggestions. They also apply to other android phones too probably. I had a myTouch4G for a week until I decided that T-Mob just wasn't as good a value to me as AT&T. So I went back. I'll get an Atrix soon, or maybe some Tegra that comes out in a month or 2.

How do you switch to Motoblur from Launcher Pro and back again? Will I lose the customization that I've done?
Edit: Home Launcher

DarrellRaines said:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?

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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?
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Modern lithium batteries actually die faster if you fully drain them then recharge to full. I'm not saying you can't do it every so often for calibration purposes but it isn't recommended as a every day thing.
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We aren't running them down for the batteries health, but more so that the phone will understand what full and what dead actually is.
Do not do this often as there is no point. As for damaging the battery, one website says it is bad while others say it is good. Do so at your own risk. I do not have a degree in science, so I can not say either way, however the steps above done once the phone is calibrated will help.
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After 12 hours of moderate to heavy use today, I still have 50% battery remaining.
For the guy who's email stopped working, do not turn off all background data. That will stop the push settings I believe.
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wait....quit looking at porn on my phone?!??!!?
impossible!
no matter, im not having battery life issues.

Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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[Q] TWO Android systems draining battery??

Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??

JohnnyGui said:
Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??
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Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit

MAX 404 said:
Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit
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Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.

JohnnyGui said:
Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.
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Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get

If it's a conciliation, my android (currently on AOSP) is also running two android systems. Not exactly the same name (Android-System and Android-Besturingssysteem), but you get the idea. You mentioned quite a few things you've already tried, but what about existing widgets and or android apps you've installed? Usually (for me anyway) battery drain is an installed app not exactly behaving nicely.

MAX 404 said:
Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get
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So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.

JohnnyGui said:
So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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Let us know what you find ....good luck

JohnnyGui said:
The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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In my opinion, that's the problem with the default battery information. In my years of experience, it usually never knows the information that you need what exactly is braining the battery. If your battery is still being drained, I suggest to remove most of your apps. Only for a day orso. It should be enough to gather the information to know that at least one of your apps was the cause of it.
It's a pain to do it. But It always has helped me rather than relying on apps of which usually doesn't work out for me.
Also. Might be a good idea to alter your system language from Dutch to English and check the battery info again to search for the duplicate running system on google. You'd expect "Android System" being enough, but who knows that a different language might show a different name.

Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour now in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I tried that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?

JohnnyGui said:
Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I did try that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I guess you're having your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Kudos for the battery mate.

JohnnyGui said:
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Yea, I'm using the Dutch language. But I'm not using the stock ROM of the phone, so hence I am seeing different systems running in the background. But I'm glad the battery is semi-fixed.

Ok, so I changed my phone to English and behold, one of the "Android Systems" indeed changed to "Android OS"
I could have sworn it was like that when my phone was in Dutch.
Perhaps someone with the stock ROM in Dutch could check that out?

No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
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Stefan0vic said:
No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks a lot for confirming this! I guess Android OS is indeed translated to "System" for Dutch S4's.
Have you tried my suggestions in the opening post?

Battery Life Tips and Tricks Thread

I've noticed this phone has hit or miss battery life depending on what you have installed, greenified and frozen. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where everyone could share their battery life tips and tricks on this phone.
Below I posted what I have done to maximize battery life. I have not rooted my phone yet, so none of the below tips require root.
I disabled all bloatware apps that came with the phone. I did not disable any of the Asus applications.
I utilize the Asus autostart manger and denied auto start to all my applications except music applications, messenger applications, and google photo sync.

battery sucks. drain to much.

Just use until you have 5% free battery, this should make at least your day
With Android OS taking so much thanks to lollipop, there is not a lot to hope.

We wont see a good battery improvement until we get 5.1
Luckily, that is in the future for this device acc. to Asus.

Since the issue seems to primarily be Android os draining the battery I don't think most battery saving measures will make a difference. We will just have to wait for an update

When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?

facelessloser said:
When I was looking at the phone reviews people were claiming 8 hours screen on time, I can barely get 2 hours screen on time.
The problem I'm having is that the phone never goes to sleep and is constantly awake. Has anyone else seen this issue?
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I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.

marcof93 said:
I had the same problem after the latest update, no deepsleep in BetterBatteryStats (I'm rooted), I wiped everything and now it goes to deepsleep.
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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad

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Which firmware version are you on. I've wiped the phone once already, did you clear any caches? It's driving me mad
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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.

Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.

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I'm on 2.18.40.12 (ZE551ML of course), I restored the phone from backup & restore in settings (It may take 30 minutes or more). Before restoring I had 45+% of Android OS during the night, now 20% more or less, but, as said, also in BBS I can see deepsleep in frequencies.
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I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?

facelessloser said:
I wiped my phone yesterday and restored back up like you suggested and it seams to have sorted out my wake lock issue. I wonder why that is?
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Glad you solved, but don't know why, maybe they are working hard on the firmware and there are lot of changes that can cause problem, maybe we have to wipe after every update, Intel processor and Lollipop are so unstable right now!

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Someone posted on Zentalk to turn off remote lock and scan for security threats in google settings. Not sure if it helps or not.
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It helps..i turned andriod device manager too

Ok so this is my battery with a normal day of use... Tomorrow ill show the results with your sugestions. My normal days have gsm calls(normal phone calls) whasapp (chat) youtube, twich, game like plant vs zombies 2, look at gmail, surfing internet, taking pics like 25 today.
I notice that battery drains a lot more while photo app open.
I use doble sim as you can see

If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.

Sammaul said:
If you want to test app battery drain, try GSAM Battery Monitor, or for some extra functionality the Pro version. Also very useful to determine what is causing wakelocks when you run into them.
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Really interesting app ill download tomorrow im tring to lock some functionalities from google like sending data for app security and after that will download this and tell you what i got
Thank u sir thats a good one

Everyone is always wondering about Android using the most battery. Without doing some in depth debugging and tracing I would guess Houdini falls under Android. Because the ZenFone 2 uses the Intel processor a binary conversion for ARM instructions takes place with Houdini. More than likely you have a lot of apps native for ARM.

Force closing asus support app and zenui services app from apps setting gives me good amount of battery boost. Apart I have also disabled google books, movies, plus etc. I don't know if its placebo effect but someone can try and confirm. These app tend to restart at times so if you feel the battery decreasing at high rates again, make sure you force close them again.
Roughly speaking, I tend to get 3-5 min per percentage of screen on time with this which totals to 5 to 6 hrs on SOT on continous usage. Without the apps being force closed, I barely get 2min/%. The usage scenarios are normal web browsing, chats etc. This is using mobile data. It gets even better with wifi.
Try and let me know if this helps.

Maybe I don't use my phone as much as other people. I posted this last night on another forum. My phone was unplugged at 07:00, It's now 21:00. I have 80% battery left and the battery monitor shows 3 days left
I have received email, 3 phone calls and text messages. I checked Twitter a couple of times with the browser. I have read Google News a couple of times and played GSN Casino for about 20 minutes.
In Auto Start Manager I turned off Docs, Sheets, Skype, Slides, Translate, Amazon Kindle, Data Transfer and Web Storage. Everything else is Allow, but I have no social networking applications installed.

Its looks like battery life is a right mixed bag. At the start of the week I was suffering wake lock issue, my phone wouldn't go into deep sleep and was constantly awake. I wiped and restored from backup which seams to fix the issue.
Got up this morning and it looks like the wake lock issue is back. I don't know what to do to fix it.
Feel like giving up on the phone and sending it back if I can

A temporary fix for battery drain.

By now, most of you know there is a problem with battery drainage on the Snapdragon version. I along with many other people have fixed this by doing the following steps:
1. Clear Cache
2. Factory Reset
3. Opt out of all background reporting to Google and Samsung. (Google Location is okay)
4. Don't update any of the pre-installed apps through the play store that your not going to use.
5. Turn off auto update in the pay store.
6. Disable any app you don't want in the application settings.
7. Set location settings to GPS only.
8. Set WiFi to sleep when the screen is off or stay awake only when charging.
9. Turn off WiFi and Bluetooth scanning.
Last but not least DO NOT use an SD card unless your phone doesn't have the ejection bug. Every time you see the SD notification your phone is scanning the SD card. This can use a lot of power in the background as it wakes up the phone and doesn't allow it to go into its deep sleep state.
Also make sure you set it up as a new device instead of copying information from an old phone.
(Some are also reporting an improvement by just turning off Google and Samsung background reporting without even doing a factory reset.)
(Also DO NOT disable any packages using a package disabler app) Just disable apps you don't want through the application settings. I along with many others have reported worse battery life after disabling some of the packages.
For those of you (1 of you) saying this is pure snake oil, the following screenshots make for some compelling proof that it is not.
The first set of screenshots are of my battery performance before taking these steps and then some screenshots after taking these steps.

I've also disabled scanning for nearby devices, since my environment doesn't have any I can or want to connect to 98% of the time (and it can/will wake the WiFi w/o charging battery use to WiFi IIRC).
SM-G935A (US AT&T):
Settings > Connections > More connection Settings > Nearby device scanning > Off

I followed these steps this morning. I got excited when I saw in GSam that it was held awake for 0 seconds but since then it's still showing me held awake. Perhaps something I'm installing, I do notice screenwise is much higher for battery drain now. I drained a lot installing a ton of new apps so I can't go by anything yet but it seems the battery is more steadily depleting and losing less while idle. I'm interested in seeing how it performs after I go through this first cycle. Here's some screens
after reset SOT 1:47 58% left
before SOT 5:33 2% left
see how it seems to be more steady now, maybe I'm imagining it.

This post is snake oil.
Any 'fix' that starts with "clear cache" is not a fix.

nobnut said:
Any 'fix' that starts with "clear cache" is not a fix.
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I think that may be throwing out the baby with the bath water ... I don't know whether the cache has a direct effect or not, but the other settings seem to have a measurable impact.

jrwingate6 said:
By now, most of you know there is a problem with battery drainage on the Snapdragon version. I along with many other people have fixed this by doing the following steps:
1. Clear Cache
2. Factory Reset
3. Opt out of all background reporting to Google and Samsung. (Google Location is okay)
4. Don't update any of the pre-installed apps through the play store that your not going to use.
5. Turn off auto update in the pay store.
6. Disable any app you don't want in the application settings.
7. Set location settings to GPS only.
8. Set WiFi to sleep when the screen is off or stay awake only when charging.
9. Turn off WiFi and Bluetooth scanning.
Last but not least DO NOT use an SD card unless your phone doesn't have the ejection bug. Every time you see the SD notification your phone is scanning the SD card. This can use a lot of power in the background as it wakes up the phone and doesn't allow it to go into its deep sleep state.
Also make sure you set it up as a new device instead of copying information from an old phone.
(Some are also reporting an improvement by just turning off Google and Samsung background reporting without even doing a factory reset.)
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I wonder the true reason. I tried those steps before and that does not do the trick for me. Also, Bluetooth will sometimes just decide to eat 5% of the battery for no reason. However, the phone I get for my girlfriend (gold color, I got silver), without any adjustment out of the box can just get great battery life. Like without turn off anything. GPS is high accuracy, everything you mentioned in the post she has it on the regular setting, wifi on all the time, scanning device. The battery just keep doing great for her but terrible for me. I'm so confused regarding to this issue. Then I also tried package disabler on her phone, and it's still doing great.

nobnut said:
This post is snake oil.
Any 'fix' that starts with "clear cache" is not a fix.
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Clearing the cache may do nothing at all. I am just sharing the steps I took to improve my battery life. You're right though. Clearing the cache most likely is not what fixed it.
The other things I have listed though (especially opting out of the Google background reporting) has improved mine and others battery life immensely. Many people have reported much better battery life after disabling the background reporting.
Like I said, I'm just listing what I did to improve my battery from draining 18% overnight in standby to only losing 2% overnight in standby.

The "fix" is to change to exynos
(Just messing guys ?)

johanbiff said:
The "fix" is to change to exynos
(Just messing guys ��)
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Wish I could man. I don't really like buying phones out right anymore ever since getting Jump On Demand through T-Mobile. Having 3 upgrades a year without paying anything upfront is awesome.

jrwingate6 said:
Wish I could man. I don't really like buying phones out right anymore ever since getting Jump On Demand through T-Mobile. Having 3 upgrades a year without paying anything upfront is awesome.
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Yeah I understand. It really is to bad that it has this drain, hopefully they will patch it over soon with a fix for you u.s guys.

johanbiff said:
Yeah I understand. It really is to bad that it has this drain, hopefully they will patch it over soon with a fix for you u.s guys.
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I like the phone a lot so I'm hoping as well. If they don't have it patched by the time the G5 and HTC 10 get here, I still have 1 upgrade left until July so I may take advantage of it and get one of those two.

You most be talking about the s7 because my edge is great it's been off charge for 12hrs and my battery is at 75%

techrider6262 said:
You most be talking about the s7 because my edge is great it's been off charge for 12hrs and my battery is at 75%
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Nope....We are in the Edge forums. If you haven't seen. Many are having battery problems with the Snapdragon version of the Edge. There are many threads you can check out here.
Now I am getting great battery life but I had to put up with terrible battery life for nearly 5 days.

I have att edge and my battery life has been super impressive I didn't do much either just disabled couple apps screen 40% auto bright wifi BT always on location when I need I been averaging 7 1/2 hour sot, kinda reminds me when I me and my wife had g2 I had amazing battery life and my wife's phone sucked ass, I feel like some phones are duds

Anyway to turn of the background reporting without doing a factory reset?

I did the steps above last night and today is my first day. To be honest it seems similar to before but I will give it some time. My WiFi is always taking 50%+ on gsam even before. Any fix for this?

gainstatom said:
I did the steps above last night and today is my first day. To be honest it seems similar to before but I will give it some time. My WiFi is always taking 50%+ on gsam even before. Any fix for this?
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Looks like you have the WiFi bug. I had it as well when I disabled a bunch of packages. Have you disabled any packages?
Also, you could try changing the way your WiFi sleeps. Try changing it to only staying on when charging.
There is no way your WiFi should be using that much power.

Willyman said:
Anyway to turn of the background reporting without doing a factory reset?
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This. Anyone?

JGoldz75 said:
This. Anyone?
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Yes. Go to:
Settings - Applications - Google
Click on the 3 dots in the upper right corner and then go to Usage and Diagnostics.
For the Samsung reporting it is under the Privacy section in your settings menu.
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Looks like you have the WiFi bug. I had it as well when I disabled a bunch of packages. Have you disabled any packages?
Also, you could try changing the way your WiFi sleeps. Try changing it to only staying on when charging.
There is no way your WiFi should be using that much power.
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Yeah I disabled almost all the packages. Do I have to enable some?