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Hello Folks !
I know that the issue of "vanishing" SD memory cards has been discussed in the XDA Forum before, and from those threads I also figured that there is a Hotfix patch available for this problem from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948278/
But Microsoft does not offer a download link for that fix
Instead they direct you to their "beg me for it" support site, where they state that owners of pre-installed Vista systems are only offered support on a "pay per support request" basis at the tune of >$60 per ticket :-(
All others are directed to go the website of their device's manufacturer.
But HTC doesn't offer any patches or fixes for the Shift, heck they don't even have an "updated driverrs" section there
But things have gotten that bad on my Shift by now that every time I switch SD cards (even w/o hibernation), I get the exact error the MS note describes and have to reboot Vista to get my SD card back
Can anyone here please(!!) send me that MS Hotfix.
Why do I have to pay to get a buggy SW fixed, simply because I am the legit owner of a Window's Vista version?
Whoever was so screwed up in the head to put Vista on that box in the first place?
If not for the missing drivers for XP (resolution changer and the like), I would have already kicked Vista of that darn thing myself.
Best would of course have been Linux, but the driver sittuation there is even worse (no touchpad, no SNAPVuE, ...)
Please, somebody help me here.
The HTC Shift, such a powerfull device, and such a lousy implementation
Hi,
I clicked your link and then clicked on this link at the top of the page.
Hotfix Download Available
View and request hotfix down.
They detected my Location - Australia.
I filled in my email address and was sent a time & password protected download link to the Hotfix.
They warn that this Hotfix is not fully tested.
I will wait for the official one.
Regards,
Steve
I have the same problem too!
I am using a 16G SD card from A data. In order to use it, I have to reboot the shift. Now I have purchased an external SD card reader, it then works better!
you said you have read all the thread concerning that fix. In one of them, you can download it.
BTW, the fix actually doesn't fix much, but you can still hope.
pharao said:
Best would of course have been Linux, but the driver sittuation there is even worse (no touchpad, no SNAPVuE, ...)
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What are you talking about? We have 100% hardware support for the shift in Linux, everything is working, check my blog.
thaihugo said:
you said you have read all the thread concerning that fix. In one of them, you can download it.
BTW, the fix actually doesn't fix much, but you can still hope.
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I've tried to install this hotfix and it prompts "This hotfix is not meant for your system". I have Vista Bussiness SP1.
pof said:
What are you talking about? We have 100% hardware support for the shift in Linux, everything is working, check my blog.
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Pleeeeaaase, I'm not a fool.
I've read through the posts of the guy who wrote most of the drivers for Linux and by his own admission things like touchscreen only work under Linux if Windoze initialized the device first (dual boot option).
Such clumsy work arounds might be fine for you, but I need this box for WORK, not play.
So I can't afford to have to mess around first to get certain functions running, and I need every single item on that box - be it touchpad, phone or screen rez change...
And anything that requires Dual Boot is unacceptable for work from the get go.
Imagine my project leaders wants me to perform a certain task on the fly and my reply is "OK Boss, just give me 5-10 minutes, I'll have for boot into Windoze for that first" :-(
Either it *all* works under Linux or otherwise I wasted a lot of money on an oversized paper weight.
outparda said:
Hi,
I clicked your link and then clicked on this link at the top of the page.
Hotfix Download Available
View and request hotfix down.
They detected my Location - Australia.
I filled in my email address and was sent a time & password protected download link to the Hotfix.
They warn that this Hotfix is not fully tested.
I will wait for the official one.
Regards,
Steve
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Maybe they build that page for each location differently, but for my current locale (German province), I was exactly looking for that link (even using the "search" function), but could not find it.
If you could post that URL I would appreciate it.
Or maybe that page only works correctly if used with IE ???
pharao said:
Pleeeeaaase, I'm not a fool.
I've read through the posts of the guy who wrote most of the drivers for Linux and by his own admission things like touchscreen only work under Linux if Windoze initialized the device first (dual boot option).
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You are in front of that guy... and yes, that was one of the caveats from the first versions of the touchscreen driver (looks like you haven't been updated since a looong time), now the initialization works correctly and dualboot is not needed anymore.
pharao said:
Either it *all* works under Linux or otherwise I wasted a lot of money on an oversized paper weight.
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As I said before, it does *all* work.
outparda said:
Hi,
I clicked your link and then clicked on this link at the top of the page.
Hotfix Download Available
View and request hotfix down.
They detected my Location - Australia.
I filled in my email address and was sent a time & password protected download link to the Hotfix.
They warn that this Hotfix is not fully tested.
I will wait for the official one.
Regards,
Steve
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OK, I just tried again with another browser.
Now it seems to work OK and I'll wait for MS response.
The thing that worries me is that the web page said "for Vista Business SP2".
But I only got Service Pack 1 and I don't even think that there is an SP2 out yet for Vista.
I checked on the MS website just this weekend and they only listed SP1.
Am I wrong here about the MS Service Packs for Vista???
pof said:
You are in front of that guy... and yes, that was one of the caveats from the first versions of the touchscreen driver (looks like you haven't been updated since a looong time), now the initialization works correctly and dualboot is not needed anymore.
As I said before, it does *all* work.
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So you are telling me that SnapVuE, Touchscreen, Fingerprint Reader, Rez Change, Touchpad, Modem, WebCam, Audio and WM6 connectivity *all* work under Linux?
Be carefull what you claim here, because I am a Linux user & admin and have a "ready2install" SuSE 11.x distro right in front of me!
motowiz said:
I've tried to install this hotfix and it prompts "This hotfix is not meant for your system". I have Vista Bussiness SP1.
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Because it is already included in SP1
thaihugo said:
Because it is already included in SP1
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But if that is true then why do I stell get that error (as I am on SP1) and why does the MS website claim SP2 as a pre-requesite?
pharao said:
So you are telling me that SnapVuE, Touchscreen, Fingerprint Reader, Rez Change, Touchpad, Modem, WebCam, Audio and WM6 connectivity *all* work under Linux?
Be carefull what you claim here, because I am a Linux user & admin and have a "ready2install" SuSE 11.x distro right in front of me!
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I suggest you to tone down, because pof is actually the only guy I know working on linux drivers for the shift. Talking about clumsy workaround is not the best way to thank him. Maybe you can use some smiley here.
May I also remind you that there are some heavyweight professionals on this forum, so claiming your professional problems as a bragging right might be a bit moot for most of us.
pharao said:
But if that is true then why do I stell get that error (as I am on SP1) and why does the MS website claim SP2 as a pre-requesite?
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The fix is for pre-SP1. So it cannot install on SP1
ANd there is no SP2 for vista. You're reading probably something for XP
pof said:
As I said before, it does *all* work.
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Well, I haven't tried it myself, but there are some guys in the comments of your "linux on shift" blog, that claim that there are severe problems with WiFi.
They say it won't work with WEP enabled networks.
Can you confirm this or is there a fix available?
Guancho said:
They say it won't work with WEP enabled networks.
Can you confirm this or is there a fix available?
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It works for me, but i'll have a look at it when I have time.
pof said:
It works for me, but i'll have a look at it when I have time.
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Thanks, I really appreciate your work! It's great that someone works on fully enabling ubuntu on the shift.
And sorry for being off-topic
thaihugo said:
I suggest you to tone down, because pof is actually the only guy I know working on linux drivers for the shift. Talking about clumsy workaround is not the best way to thank him. Maybe you can use some smiley here.
May I also remind you that there are some heavyweight professionals on this forum, so claiming your professional problems as a bragging right might be a bit moot for most of us.
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May I suggest you tone it down yourself?
It was pof who jumped into this thread proclaiming very loudly that his drivers would make *all* under Linux work.
Emphasis on all on his own part.
So if he makes a claim which proofs to be false, then I would call that very unprofessional indeed (not that I allege such at this point, but that is why I listed all the [many] devices his claim would include).
I don't know about the environment in which the "heavyweights" you mention in this forum work, but in my world making a claim like that would get me fired if it proofed to be untrue.
And I'm talking about the kind of projects here where such news travels very fast - and I did mention that I use my Shift for work.
Thus my livelyhood depends on my systems functioning 100% (not 95% or 99%).
And despite me being an avert Linux user myself, I'm not one of those folks who believe I have to get all my stuff for free, thus if I do not find that someone willing to write drivers for free obliges me to be gratefull beyond agony (should they still not work as advertised).
Quite the opposite. I'm among the first willing to pay for my SW as long as it works. I did not choose Linux (for my PC) because it is "free", as screwing up on the job because of a failing System would cost me a lot more than simply paying for a professional operating system.
So if something does not work right (like having to boot into Windows first before I can start working under Linux), I do call it "clumsy" - because that is what it is!
If pof wants to be paid for his drivers, he can PM me about that proposal.
But in any case I'll demand for that stuff to work 100% or else I call it what it is.
Because my boss would call me far worse if I'd screw up because I e.g. couldn't access my info because my HTC Shift went bye bye on the job.
(enough smileys?)
PS thaihugo, the tone of your reply already convinced me to stick with Windoze on the Shift.
Because as lousy as Vista works on the HTC, at least there I do have "bragging rights" (as you call it) to demand working SW - because I paid for it.
That's a lot better than trying to get some freebie working and if it ain't working to be told "hey, what do you want? You got it for free!"
Hi all,
I have a Qtek s100 reported to be the same as the magician
I tried booting Linux angstrom using Haret following the instructions from the wiki.
I also tried openmoko and QTOPIA following instructions there : http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
All tries ended the same way : Haret starts, displays a few lines, says "jumping to kernel", the screen becomes white, and nothing else happens. After a while , the screen is not illuminated anymore, and touching the touchscreen doesn't light it up, whereas the keys do.
I tried changing the runlevel, changing the root= to see if it was due to a bad support of the card reader, nothing changed.
Has anyone already had this problem and solved it ?
Thanks a lot,
Thomas
Hi
I have the same problem.
Try image from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ - it's work great for me .
You can also boot other images like from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ which are the newest but you have to extract kernel and modules from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/Angst...-2008.1-test-20080216-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 image and replace them in the image You want to use. Do not forget to copy also http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/zImage-2.6.21-hh20-r13-magician.bin to use with haret.
Greets
PS
Sorry for my english
Thanks, I found a working kernel...
GPE works well, but it's not really easy without a stylus... But I like gomunicator, and I can recompile it with my smscenter...
I tried OM 2007.12, but "read sms" crashes, and upgrade crashes my install
OM 2008 doesn't start X...
Which distro did you find most functional ?
Thomas
i'm testing now Angstrom-x11-gpe from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ ( fast but it don't have apps for dialing and sms ). I tried image with opie (but it didn't worked for me) and with Angstrom-openmoko from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ which is for me to slow to use (high memory usage) but the most functional.
Are you able to update packages?? I have some problems with this - i can connect to Magician over ssh, but i can't connect from it to the internet - coul you explain how are you connecting your magician to the computer?? are you using linux box?? what commands are you using.
Thanks
help with my magician ....the touchscreen doesn't work with angstromn x11 gpe... solution?? sorry for my bad english
newbie on PDA, seasoned on Liux
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?
cest73 said:
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?
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I just stumbled upon your post by accident - and it seems there isn't much interest in Magician in general
anymore - so in short there won't be full linux support for Magician (unless pH5 - or someone else (you?) finishes it).
Well actually the hardware is almost 100% supported (apart from IrDA, sound recording and camera)
(see here - but afaik the userspace stuff is missing so it doesn't work with the mentioned images.
Usbnet is working (to get you started look here or here)
If know/are interested to expedite userspace you probably don't need any help setting up a build environmend
(but you can always ask me).
The info on the wiki could also be useful.
The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
Motorola A780 (driver available for an earlier kernel)
HTC Alpine, HTC Sable, HTC Universal, HTC Wizard
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).
excogitation said:
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).
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If you're interested take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069
That's the main thread about this subject.
The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
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Camera is OV9640. Also used in FS720.
It seems Magician revisions have two different cameras, but I don't know differences...
Since I have the parts lying around I just took a look and it's definitely an OV9650 - and I'm fairly certain there aren't 2 different cameras - if you definitely have an ov9640 - then there are 2 different ones.
There are 2 different LCD's though - but that has already been taken care of by pH5 (that's why on some Magicians the hh17 and earlier kernels won't boot - again if I remember correctly).
I just took a look and found some stuff related ... I'll attach it here so maybe it can save you some time. (notes in the files may be German)
Since xda-devs doesn't want my file ... I put it here: ov9650 stuff
Also check here especially the driver and m560x ov9650.
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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Well I highly doubt that's going to happen any time soon - but Android "runs" on Apache so that should get someone interested started.
iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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linux yes
android ?????
after some emails with people involve with linux there seems to be issues in porting the android kernel
if you wanna help with the linux port head there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069&page=7
Just a bump to a thread
maybe this should be make sticky, for who knows when the last Magician with Linux user is going to break down?
They might want to slump together a linux build mean while?
Please, don't reply with a quote of this post.
Wing Linux
This thread is a continuation to what happened in the LINUX BOOTS at OPAL! Thanks to linwizard project! thread. I thought it's about time a proper thread is made to get this project the attention it needs.
What is Wing Linux all about
Wing Linux aims to bring Linux and Google's Android operating systems to OMAP850-based devices.
Wait, did you say Linux AND Android?
Yep, you did read that right. If you're running Wing Linux, you are simultaneously running Ångström and Android on top of that. That means you get all of the cool Linux functionality with the intuitive interface and usability of Android.
For more information about Wing Linux please visit the official site. It'll save you from having to read through this whole thread
If I installed Wing Linux, will I lose WM? / Will this brick my device?
No. There's no flashing involved here. Still, it's best practice to have thing backed up before doing anything. I've heard of a few cases were people lost some files from there SD cards.
Great! How can I try this?
I'm glad you asked!
Installation is very easy and smooth, all you have to do is following these simple steps:
Navigate to the Wing Linux site.
On the navigation menu to the right of the main page, you'll find a "Download" link. Obviously, you're supposed to click it
Once the download completes, you'll end up with a zip file that contains a few cab files and 4 text files. Please do open these files using notepad for a quick look. They contain plenty of useful information.
After extracting that zip, and hopefully taking a look at the text files, you'll need to move two of the cab files to your device: rootfs and opal.
From your device, install the two cabs (navigate to them using your favourite file explorer then click them) and make sure to install both files to storage card.
Before proceeding any further, make sure that you still have at least 250MB of free space on your storage card. If you don't then you'll need to do some clean up before you can continue.
Also, make sure to close any open application, otherwise you'll lose any unsaved progress in any of them.
Open the brand new wing-linux short-cut in your start menu.
Hit run.
While Linux is booting up. You'll be asked to input a size for the image file used as storage for Wing Linux (consider it like virtual hard disk). Don't touch anything and just wait, default value (250MB) will be used after a couple of seconds.
Grab yourself a cup of coffee/tea/beer/... then sit back and relax. Installation will take a while.
When everything is over, you'll get a calibration screen. Try your best to get a good calibration on the first time as fixing it later takes some work.
Enjoy Android
Key-map for Android
As the Opal doesn't have that many keys, some changes had to be made:
D-Pad + Centre: works normally.
Green: Dialer.
Red: Default behaviour under Android is like this:
Short press: puts device in standby. This can be changed in the settings (which I recommend).
Long press: Display menu to turn off device, put device in airplane mode...
Volume Up: menu key (it's the key that unlocks the screen as well).
Volume Down: back/cancel.
Power button: It's working, but it doesn't do anything because it's functionality doesn't work in Android yet.
Okay, I'm done playing around and I want to go back to WM.
That's easy:
Click and hold the red button and you'll get a menu.
Select "Shutdown" and the phone will reboot.
Once the phone boots again, you'll be in WM.
I want to completely get rid of Wing Linux
Eh, it's your loss.
Un-install both cabs as you would do for any application.
Check if there's still a folder called "linux" in the root of your storage card.
If there's one, delete it.
What works and what does not work:
For details look at this page here. In short:
For the time being, these stuff work:
Making/receiving calls, although you won't be able to hear the other side during phone calls. But there's a small workaround for that:
When in windows mobile, start Wing Linux during a phone call, that way you'll have sound in Android during calls.
Sending/receiving SMS.
GPRS also works. If your carrier/service providers details are included already, it'll work out of the box. Otherwise you'll need to set up a new APN under settings.
For the time being, these stuff do not work:
Battery (will always report it's 100% full).
Bluetooth
WIFI
Camera
Sound (other than what you'll get with the workaround)
Vibration
LED notifications
Standby/Suspend mode.
Unlocking SIM (Android will accept the PIN code but it won't connect to network, you'll need to disable PIN from WM).
FAQ
Q: When I let the phone sit for a while it goes to a text screen that just rolls android_power_suspend messages?
Right now these message are normal, just hit any key or the screen to go back. The suspend portion of Android is being actively worked on so just hang tight!
Q: I installed and booted Wing Linux and when I attach it via USB to my Windows computer it asks me for a driver for an "Ethernet Gadget". Where can I get this?
Linux has this driver natively. For Windows, there's no driver right now, if you know where we can find one (that is free to distribute legally) please do share it with us.
Q: When I boot for the first time the installer hangs at partitioning 0%, is it not working?
Walk away from your phone, this part will take some time. It will only have to do this on initial install so have faith.
Q: Can I install this to my phone's internal memory?
Not presently. Although the cab file will install, you won't be able to boot from internal memory. Ensure you install to your storage card.
Q: Does this run emulated under Windows Mobile?
Not at all! Although it's started from inside Windows Mobile, HaRET completely replaces Windows with Linux in memory, so you actually are booting native Linux -- No emulation at all.
Q: I successfully entered my PIN and unlocked my SIM card through Android, but I can't get on the network. Why?
This is a known issue -- unlocking a SIM card works, but Android does not follow through with connecting to the network. The best solution to this for now is to remove the PIN from your SIM card.
Q: I opened an application but how to I get back to the main page or quit the program? Where is my back button?
Check the keymap posted above.
Q: When will X work on Opal?
In due time. The project is made of volunteer effort working in their spare time. If you'd like the development to speed up, feel free to give a hand!
Not every single one of the people working on this is a developer. Some, like me, are learning as they go. And none is able to dedicate all his time for this project.
Q: I messed up with the calibration. How can I re-calibrate the screen?
Go to storage card, then go to the folder called 'linux'. You'll find a file called default.txt
In that file, look for the line that says "set CMDLINE", add "reset_ts" to it (between the two quotations). Then boot normally.
Remember to remove that once you're satisfied with the calibration.
(If Microsoft Word asks you to save it in their format, always say no)
Q: I waited a lot but the device won't finish booting after installation. What should I do?
First of all, try resetting the phone and booting Wing Linux again. In most of the cases, this'll work. If that doesn't work, try deleting the "rootfs" file from "/Storage Card/linux". If you don't see that file, delete rootfs.img instead. Then boot back in and it should start installing from scratch.
If you're still having issues, remove everything (refer to the "I want to completely get rid of Wing Linux" section) and reinstall the two cabs.
Q: What version of Android is Wing Linux running?
Right now, it's running Cupcake (1.5). An upgrade is planned.
Q: What version of Ångström is Wing Linux running?
Latest as of time of posting.
Q: I'm trying to use the virtual terminal but the enter button on the virtual keyboard won't do anything. Is that normal?
It happens occasionally. Try pressing the d-pad in various directions then hit then enter button again.
Q: Can I SSH to the phone?
Yes you can
Code:
sudo ifconfig usb0 10.100.0.2 up
ssh [email protected]
The password is "wing".
Q: Is installing to a dedicated partition supported?
Yes it is, for more information check the 'INSTALL' file included in the zip, and that can also be found under /storage card/linux
Q: How can I set up a development environment to help with coding?
Take a look here.
Q: How can I get in contact with developers?
Through this thread, the project's forums and on the IRC channel at #wing-linux on Freenode.net. Please, do not use E-Mails, PMs, IMs...
Personal thanks from me to the following people for making this a reality:
darkstar62 for being the main man behind the whole project. And for going easy on me despite my noobness
The people at Linwizard for creating the base kernel and helping throughout development.
kshaurya for helping me to get the Opal branch started
raditzgds, life02 and zenned for helping to get the touchscreen working on Opal.
HTC for this nice device.
Google for Android.
The people behind Ångström for the base system.
I hope I didn't forget anyone...
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Release Informations
Released Versions:
0.1 released on 2009-02-16
0.2 released on 2009-05-26
0.3pre3 released on 2009-06-14
0.3 released on 2009-06-16
0.4pre1 released on 2009-07-04
0.4pre2 released on 2009-07-25
0.4pre3 released on 2009-08-12
0.4pre4 released on 2009-08-12
0.4 released on 2009-11-09
0.4.1 released on 2009-11-19
0.4.2 released on 2009-11-21
Planned Releases:
Nothing is currently set in stone. Next release can be either 0.4.3 or 0.5.
Things to look forward for in the next release.
Hopefully: Sound and there might be some changes concerning Android.
Latest Change Log:
Will be updated on next release.
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How to help with testing and development on Opal:
The people behind Linwizard and Wing-Linux are in need of the results of running this test:
ali1234 said:
Hi,
Thanks to everyone who came to our sprint and tested things. We got a
basic kernel booting on several platforms.
After looking at the results I started to look at the LCD detection
code. I would like to ask everyone to run this test and send me the
results.
I need testers with any omap7xx phone. You only need to run a haret
script and mail me the output, no kernel boot in necessary. The test
scripts are here:
http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/htc/lcd1.zip
You need a modified version of haret which is included. Unpack the zip
to the phone's internal memory and run haret. Press the "boot" button
like normal. It won't boot linux, it will run the tests instead. Your
screen will flicker during the test, it is normal. It will generate
lcdlog.txt. Mail that file to me or the list, along with any
information you have about your phone. Especially if you have an
after-market LCD, or you know what model of LCD you have for another
reason.
The test works by rapidly switching between LCD mode and GPIO mode on
the LCD controller pins, to check which pins are tied high, low, or
are floating. It does this 30 or so times. Any pin that changes value
is deemed floating. The others are tied high or low (1 or 0). Ignoring
floating pins (zero them) and you get a code which identifies the
panel type of the phone.
More about the LCD detection, including device database and log
processor: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/linwizard/wiki/LCDDetect
Thanks
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While the quote tells you to email the results to ali1234, it would be best if you PM them to me and I'll handle passing them forwards.
Very nice thread with all the info needed
musikmonk that rom is ready contact me today eve or tom i will send u... then u can do testing works.
good discription brother........
i have tried it out already....but sound wifi etc not working.....hopefully the developers will solve the problems in next build....
indresh88 said:
good discription brother........
i have tried it out already....but sound wifi etc not working.....hopefully the developers will solve the problems in next build....
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I guess you dont know that musikmonk himself is one of the developer of android for omap 850 devices
i downloaded it from the web to my mobile...took me a couple of hours but was worth it.
installation was a breeze.
wifi is not a necessary for me...so i am okay with it...
there are some probs tho...like the battery percentage...it is stuck at 100%. even after fiddling with it, it remained the same.
i rebooted to wm to find that battery was about 45%. this issue is critical...i feel. what about you guys??
btw...my sincere thanks to all who toiled so hard...without getting paid...to port this amazing os.
hats off to you guys...and do keep up the good work.
i'm testing android from some week
i test version 0.4.2 and the 0.4.3 pre4
bluetooth don't work... when I turn on the bt the scrren increase brightnees...
for the audio problems if you start winglinux during a call audio works
now i want try your kernel
jagan2 said:
I guess you dont know that musikmonk himself is one of the developer of android for omap 850 devices
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Thanks But I'm still faaaaaar from being a developer. I'm just learning.
freelancer81 said:
there are some probs tho...like the battery percentage...it is stuck at 100%. even after fiddling with it, it remained the same.
i rebooted to wm to find that battery was about 45%. this issue is critical...i feel.
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Ah, I forgot to mention that . I added it to the not working section now.
Right now, wing-linux is using a fake battery driver that always reports battery as 100% full. There's still no working driver and I'm afraid that it might be a long time till there is one.
gp.triple said:
i'm testing android from some week
i test version 0.4.2 and the 0.4.3 pre4
bluetooth don't work... when I turn on the bt the scrren increase brightnees...
for the audio problems if you start winglinux during a call audio works
now i want try your kernel
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Please do try that kernel and tell me how it goes for you.
nice work MusikMonk, i m so happy to see development for android on our phones
Bluetooth works on mine, but not all the time(once in 10 it doesn't)
Thank you so much for sharing your work
Edit: Sometimes,network problems occur after changing kernel
i try your new kernel
now when i start bluethoot its start
but don't discovery my sonyericsson w950i
and the s.e. don't find the opal
but the opal find other device...
soon as possible i try to connect other device and give you some feedback
i hope that you can understand my bad english
one question...
it is possible tu build the kernel 2.6.30 or successive?
its contains more driver
mrushabh said:
nice work MusikMonk, i m so happy to see development for android on our phones
Bluetooth works on mine, but not all the time(once in 10 it doesn't)
Thank you so much for sharing your work
Edit: Sometimes,network problems occur after changing kernel
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Can you please tell me what you tried for bluetooth? I could use some details.
And about network problems, that's normal. It randomly happens with wing-linux, it isn't something specific to that kernel.
Most of the times switching to aeroplane mode and back works. Sometimes you'll have to reboot.
gp.triple said:
i try your new kernel
now when i start bluethoot its start
but don't discovery my sonyericsson w950i
and the s.e. don't find the opal
but the opal find other device...
soon as possible i try to connect other device and give you some feedback
i hope that you can understand my bad english
one question...
it is possible tu build the kernel 2.6.30 or successive?
its contains more driver
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Does it always find that other device or does it only find it sometimes?
About using a new kernel, there are some problems with that. darkstar62 is working on moving upstream to latest kernel and he submitted some patches to the linux-omap tree to get his device (Herald/Wing) supported some were accepted, others are pending.
I tried these patches on Opal but memory card and usb didn't work. I'm waiting till the patches are complete to try again because, right now, I don't know how to fix them myself. I had a couple of ideas that I tried, but none worked.
Oh, and your English is okay. I can understand you fine.
MusikMonk said:
Does it always find that other device or does it only find it sometimes?
i had few time to try this morning
one time bt start and find some device
one time bt don't start
and one time bt start but don't find any device
as soon as possible i'll do other test
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im glad the network problem is not related to the kernel..
as for the bluetooth, it can find my other phone but somehow cant connect with it, also when set to discoverable also no other device finds it
Thank you all I really appreciate your help with testing.
If you guys have the time, can you also give this kernel a test:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1944361/zImage-09-02-10
Edit:
Oh, and can you please give me details such as:
What was the bluetooth state in WM (off/on/hidden/discoverable)?
If you're using WM6.5.x, does bluetooth work normally on the rom you're using? (There seems to be many customized roms with bluetooth problems)
When you searched from Android, if some devices are found, do the name appears or only the address?
Stuff like that...
nice ...work
nice work thank u .
i have test the OS but there are some problem , that i cant make a call and
i cant but it on sleep mode and some time Bluetooth does'nt work .
but until now it's great to see the android work on our mobiles .
.
MusikMonk said:
Thank you all I really appreciate your help with testing.
If you guys have the time, can you also give this kernel a test:
Edit:
Oh, and can you please give me details such as:
What was the bluetooth state in WM (off/on/hidden/discoverable)?
If you're using WM6.5.x, does bluetooth work normally on the rom you're using? (There seems to be many customized roms with bluetooth problems)
When you searched from Android, if some devices are found, do the name appears or only the address?
Stuff like that...
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i did other test
at first i use the original wm6.1
condition of test
wm bt on/discoverable ---> android don't start bt
wm bt of ---> bt start in android, only one time find other device but appears only the adress, the other device don't find the opaldroid
if i can this evening try the new kernel
Results with the new kernel
Rom used:Official HTC WWE Rom
Bluetooth state in windows mobile:Off
Bluetooth activates and can be set to discoverable but no device can find phone and phone cant find any device
VERY RARELY IN THIS STATE IT CAN FIND MY MAGIC MOUSE
Bluetooth state in windows mobile:On
Same as the one before but no rare luck here..(Bluetooth activates and can be set to discoverable but no device can find phone and phone cant find any device)
hi;
Please take a screen shot from your device and put them there!
thanks.
i did some test whit the new kernel
win 6.1 standard rom
bt off in wm---> sometimes find other device showing the adress but other device cant find opal
bt on in wm--->didn't find other device and other device cant find opal
Hello everybody!
I have been playing with the ARM port of Ubuntu and my Archos 70 for a few days now and I got it to boot and login on a root account.
Not a lot of things work. The touchscreen, sound, hardware buttons and 3d don't work (I'm guessing this since Unity doesn't work).
You don't imagine the pain that I had to suffer to get here without input of any kind.
Everything else seems to work fine, slow but fine (X, gnome, etc).
Things that I haven't tried yet are the webcam, the HDMI, the SD reader and the USB (which would help me a lot to get things working faster)
I'll update my post with pics and a link to download the image when it's done uploading.
For those who have been longer on the Archos community or have some experience I would ask you to give me some advice to get the touchscreen working.
Update :(12/03/2011)
Sroll down for a link and instructions on how to install it (The touchscreen works in this new image)
afaik touchscreen is connected by usb internally. check dmesg of android and figure out which driver you need and build/download/whatever it to ubuntu
Thanks! That's actually a great idea. I never thought about that
I did what you told me and it revealed that the screen is a Unitec USB Touch (Win7) with a 227d:0709 ID. I haven't found any information online except for this which isn't that informative either: lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices .html
is it not an option to re-build(and probably modify) the driver based on the gen8 source? looks to me that it is in the source package(gen8gpl-froyo/linux/drivers/input/touchscreen).
@veenstrac of course, as long as there is no ARM assembler code included it shouldn't be that hard to port it to an ubuntu kernel. except for the bit that ubuntu uses a newer kernel (2.6.3x) than archos (2.6.29). maybe some APIs need to be modified to get it compiled and working
I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...
Alexroc94 said:
I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...
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What did you do to modify it and get it to work? I have the same touch screen and I've tried a number of things to the evdev config and none seem to make any difference.
this sounds cool anything i can do to help?
If anyone knows how the evdev can be modified to make this work, can they please share this with the rest of the world? I've tried to no avail. I would really like to be able to use UNR, but it's worthless without a touch screen on a touch screen only device.
I'm sorry I didn't respond to any of the later posts. I had a really terrible week full of exams ...
Anyway, I will be working on Ubuntu this weekend to see if I can solve the rest of the problems (wifi not working, sound not working, crashes ....). But for those who want to try I uploaded the image to Dropbox. Please give me some feedback: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3122179/rootfs.img
Once you have downloaded it you have to install the SDL and replece the Angstrom img with this one. (It won't work if you have the Urukdroid intramfs).
So yeah. Good luck with that and thanks in advance to those who give me some feedback
Hey
I would like to help you out, just one question, are you using the netbook edition or is it the desktop one?
It's Ubuntu Netbook Edition but I make it boot to the "normal" desktop since Unity needs 3D to work.
The graphic card is another thing I am working on since it would be better to use Unity in these kind of devices.
Hello,
If you want to try Linux on Android (for me, A101), you can try old method (with chroot) on Android rooted device (for me, Chulri root method); it's very easy to boot Debian or Ubuntu while Android is running:
link 1 http://www.saurik.com/id/10
link 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899037
But for me, it's just for fun, not to work with this linux. But it works.
hum hum
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing
Yes, that sounds great! Will test it as soon as possible!
double post
Sorry for posting again, but i must precise i can not publish links here so the "http" and more is missed on each URL, those links might be helpful for you guys :
forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
.openaos.org/archives/152
be lucky
tazarus said:
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing
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Thanks dude! I really appreciate when what I do is useful for someone!
And yeah the guy from the archosfans forum it's me
Dropbox has suspended my account for using too much bandwith. So if you want to try it I hope I will have a new version by Monday on another server.
one more
Thanks,
don't worry for your img, i get it just before they closed your DropBox
I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
3w.dev.katlea-studio.com/home.html?PHPSESSID=fik67vlp0mv9c59pg8cm5pt0c3
he says "About wifi: ability to connect and make a ping but the internet does not work. I try to solve this quickly."
good luck again
tazarus said:
I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
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He succeeded actually.
cf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000081
Dear Android experts and users,
I'm aware this attempt has been made for a few times. Still I'd like to give it yet another try. The information published in this area is greatly useful and comprehensive. However one trying just to start working with Android on Blackstone device immediately finds himself or herself totally confused by the myriads of the links, options and suggestions.
Please upload and publish here your complete and proved working Android packages. Let other less experienced users to simply download and enjoy your polished and working solutions.
Many thanks in advance.
Poketix.
I aggree with poketix.. We must have a whole package and some good options of which is the most working package for android
Can I have a new car and house while your at it? seriously guys, it's not a shop here! have a bloody read and stop being so lazy!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962
TP2 forum with complete Froyo 2.2.2 bundle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951817
TP2 forum with complete Gingerbread 2.3 bundle ALPHA STATE.
Just follow the instructions to use the correct startup.txt. You'll also need my ts-calibration, which I posted in one or two threads in this forum, don't use the ones in above threads.
And last, go to the kernel and rootfs autobuild sites to get latest ones (at this time, no difference between the ones in the threads and in the autobuild):
Kernel autobuild
Rootfs autobuild
Interesting reference site
XDAndroid wiki (somewhat outdated)
For blackstone users cam is definately working on FRX05..
but for Cherry Pie Build v3 not yet.. but one of these days it will!
cherry pie build is faster and more stable than FRX05 for blackstone.. could be different on other phones!
As I only use XDAndroid builds I only post about them. If you want to give directions to others, feel free.
Cam working on blackstone with a really fast and stable rom http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6455
Dream on man, maybe in 2020 we will try to use Android on our phones
FRX136546457382892 should work, let's wait a little longer
teti77 said:
Dream on man, maybe in 2020 we will try to use Android on our phones
FRX136546457382892 should work, let's wait a little longer
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With a few tweaks, fixes and workarounds it works pretty well.
I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.
hrk7474 said:
.....
I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.
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I use dropbox for that.......
hrk7474 said:
With a few tweaks, fixes and workarounds it works pretty well.
I only use WinMo when i want to put something on the sd.
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Not even then... I use ES file explorer and use wifi to access my computer files XD
Bad news though... I made the mistake of breaking a boot and my data.img got corrupted Been using WM until I can extract apps from old data and insert them in a new one (a little experiment).
Update about my little testing:
I gave up XD The problem is that I don't have a permanent linux installation anymore (a big mistake on my side), so it's difficult to work with ext2 images.
A USB live distro is good for little things, but not to create a stable testing environment
Luckily I had a recent backup with titanium.
Failed in GB, I tried the FRX05. But it has the same problem as GB:
1. dialer response is slow. Pressing a digit takes 4 seconds to be displayed.
2. Dial from xdandroid, connection ok but no voice from mic and speaker.
3. Dial to xdandroid, connection also ok, voice can be received but mic is dead.
Any idea why? How can I troubleshoot them?
FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?
pohunek said:
FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?
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you can pair devices in Bluetooon when no sound appears when pairing headphone
That was not the issue I asked about. No problem with the headphones in this build either ...
pohunek said:
FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 is definitely working on my HTC Touch HD, including camera, wifi, BT and all. The only issues that remain and I noticed are 1. some minor stuttering of sound while playing music or video, 2. USB mass storage connection requires installation disk on my Vista 64 Ultimate and does not work therefore.
Any suggestions?
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USB mass storage is a known issue, but there are some tips and tricks mentioned in this thread earlier.
As for the audio, are you using g3rm0's 1277 kernel?
BTW guys, StineBD released a new system.ext2: FRX06
hrk7474 said:
USB mass storage is a known issue, but there are some tips and tricks mentioned in this thread earlier.
As for the audio, are you using g3rm0's 1277 kernel?
BTW guys, StineBD released a new system.ext2: FRX06
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Gingerbread new test image is available as well: here
List of fixes from stinebd's blog:
Further tuned keyboard sizing to be useful on VGA (also made the key labels bigger)
World-phone settings support (very important for future RIL enhancements especially on CDMA)
Enabled HSPA icon (someone on GSM please let me know if it actually works)
frxo6 working fine but battery still not good :-(
tried Gingerbread new test image is available as well: here
loads fine but no market place installed? also Enabled HSPA icon did not work for me
FM Radio
Where is FM Radio application in FRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.2011 android??
As well as no handsfree working..