unwanted touchscreen calibration - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

I keep my magician in my pocket all day, with the screen and buttons locked using screenGuard.
Increasingly I take it out of my pocket to find it demanding I re-calibrate its touchscreen.
This is particularly annoying if I'm trying to answer a call, because the green button won't answer it until the screen's calibrated.
So, what's causing this? Is it some button I'm holding that screenGuard isn't catching? I have no idea.

Hello,
So you mean your screen alignment changes often? Do you have a protective film on top of your screen?

No, as best as I can tell the screen does not lose alignment.
Something unknown is launching the calibration program while the device is locked.

the shortcut for aligning the screen is the centre buton on ur directional pad button and the calender button pressed together. maybe ur scren locking program is not working. try keeping it out of the pocket for few days and see what happens!!

Hi , i think that the swet coming from ur pocket enter under the touch screen , so don t put again in ur pocket ,,

Now look, we TyTn folks do not have sweaty pockets - heard it all now - sweat sensitive TyTns, perhaps we need to spray the screen with Sure for Men? and all those female TyTns will come to the rescue?

i have found when i kept my magican in my pocket it requires screen realignment at times.but if i leave it in its case i dont get the problem.
dont know why but i guess its due to the extra heat.

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How is your Universal holding up?

I've been using my Exec for little over a month now, no scratch on the casing nor screen, but I just noticed the tampo print on the side camera and backlight buttons are rubbing off.. No biggie but I'm a bit anal about these stuffs. How is your Universal holding up so far?
As far as the front camera (the one for video calls) is concerned it is okay because my screen protector came with two small round pieces to cover this camera as well as the lense of the main camera.
Yes the print on the backlight button is almost gone after about 1 months of usage. I also find that some marks (about 10 at the moment) developing on the screen side of the cover. This I believe are being formed as the top of the keys rub against the screen side of the cover when it is closed. Rest of the finish I find is pretty good till now with no abnormal wear of the pait work or anything else.
Kind Regards
why the backlight button? what does it do? i have had 3 of these things now and none of them have ever done anything when i press the backlight button.
just curious
joe
I think all it does is turn the monitor light back on if it's off.. same thing as if you just tab on the screen
joebongo said:
why the backlight button? what does it do? i have had 3 of these things now and none of them have ever done anything when i press the backlight button.
just curious
joe
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You have 3 Universals! WOW!
If I am not mistaken, he probably remapped the backlight button to lauch an application. Here is how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34377
yeah, one jasjar with vodafone - rip off data charges and they just wouldn't let me sign up for decently priced data chunks, and it had a dodgy screen, and 2 mda pro's - the first kept crashing so got sent a proper new replacement which is good so far.
keyboard marks on jasjar
hi everybody. i want to use my jas jar with the screen side outwards.. what happens is that i notice the keys of the keyboard tubbing against the metal portion of the cover (the outside) when i turn the screen outwards. will they cause marks on the surface.?
Keys are made of rubber like material so it is very unlikely that it will cause scratch marks. I have a Piel Frama case which has a film like material covering the keys. Thats the best solution if scratching the device is your main fear
hi
using mine in laptop mode ever since i got it in mid oct, no scartches on screen and none of the buttons lost markings and except for two marks on side of screen because of the two elevated rubber protectors, no other scatch or mark any where else on the body.
I dont use any screen portector or any case but always make sure that i dont have anything else in my pocket except Exec like keys etc
hi .. sadly there are no o2 exec or imate jasjar cases availabe here in india. if anybody knows please let me know .. thanks
You can purchase them online from Piel Frama or Brando or PDAir or Proporta....
The pivot worked loose, but there a thread on how to fix it.
Going to try later this week.
bougt it in october, not really been using it but every thing is still ok. It needs resetting very 2 days coz it crashes. it cashes mainly in contacts list and other time during the change over from landscape to portrait.
never had a pda before.
does this happen much to others?

Touch screen stopped working :-(((

Hi,
The touch screen part of my universal has ground to halt to the point that it won't work.
There doesn't appear to be any cracking and I don't recall dropping it or sitting on it.
I work a fair bit outside and can get quite a bit of dust and dirt in my pockets and am wondering if it could be due to dirt getting into the connect on the hinge.
Has any one else come across problems with the hinge?
I'm reasonably adept with a screwdriver - are there any things to watch out for when disassembling to check it over?
Hi..
If u can open with the Universal guide posted in the forum then try clean ing the connectors on the Right and Left of the Clamp Shell part with Iso Propyl Alcohol.
Before opeining you can try pressing mildly with yr fingers, at all the forur corners..it can start working..else do the above...
Hi,
OK, the screen seems to be working OK this morning, however I seem to be getting a sort of ghost effect where it appears as though the phone icon and the volume icons are getting pressed resulting in the volume controls and the phone/flight mode popup appearing on screen.
I guess it is all down to dirty connections.
Do you have a link to the thread about dismantling the hinge, I can't seem to find it.
Thanks.
re isopropal alchol
only use 99% alchol to clean contacts anything below that can cause corrosion on printed circut boards and contacts.
any progress yet.
mine stopped working today too.
but when i took off my screen protector, it worked for a while.. now its dead again.
I think the screen protectors may cause this problem, as I too had this problem with a screen protector; but when i took it off it would work and and off. I cleaned the screen up and after a few hours my screen was working again!
being in Australia I go to the beach allot. with my jasjar.
the sand gets stuck in the sides of the screen putting pressure on the screen and disabling any input. just a thought that it could be the same with u.
hope u sort it out, otherwise claim it on warrenty sooner than later.
The problem I have with the screen is that occasionally the touch screen side of things appears to stop working and also the the volume, wifi and phone dialogs keep on appearing as if I am pressing the relevant icons in the top bar.
I'm guessing some dirt has got into it somewhere or there is a loose connection, but am struggling to open up the screen's case to inspect it.
6680abhi said:
I think the screen protectors may cause this problem, as I too had this problem with a screen protector; but when i took it off it would work and and off. I cleaned the screen up and after a few hours my screen was working again!
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i took off my screen protector and it worked an hour...
got home, prepared to go to the T-mobile store.. then cleaned my screen ( without protector ) with a small cloth and it was working again.. so weird..
lets wait and see what happens ..
It's not really that weird: If some dust, or something equally small gets between the screen and the plastic frame, it can put enough pressure on the screen, and so the touch screen takes it as a constant (or intermitent) input, invalidating any other action on the rest of the screen.
I just received my Aquapac waterproof (and sand/dustproof) to use my Jasjar hapilly in the beach! :lol:
oh so annoying, my volume sliders keep popping up now..., as if some one keeps tapping, cause when not in Land scape mode when i open the "START" menu. it scrolls down, the same input/tap as wher the volume is in Landscape mode
There must be something wrong ... my screen still isnt working properly
one possible solution for touch screen not working
guys.... although I dont need to register onto this portal and it took me 15 minutes to register (fault of my own) but I got so much relieved with the solution that it deserved 15 minutes of my effort ;-) I hope it helps someone...just like it did help me....
I own a P835 Asus mobile and from past 2-3 days was having problems - start menu continuously appearing and my taps not getting recognized. Since yesterday my screen suddenly stopped responding to any taps or scrolls altogether.... buttons were working fine but not the screen..... i spoke to the facilities centre this morning and was about to take it to the shop but due to my laziness...didn;t go.....
Thanks guys.... what you mentioned above is very correct.... it was just a tiny molecule of dust that the screen was interpreting as my input and finally refusing all my taps..... I just cleaned the screen and the speaker side with the mere stylus n things started working.... thanks a lot.... more than laziness was this worry cause I just bought this piece a month before....
so people...before takin it to the shop....try this one too.....huhhh.....

Keypad + screen issues (after reassembling)

I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.
i would like to know too cause my buttons just stopped working. so the talk, end, message, Internet explorer, ect. but the left down up right and center button work.
I have the exact same issue.
All the keys (not keybord keys) randomly stops working. I am so used to it now, that I dont even try to answer the phone with the green key button.
The screen fades to white, sometimes (maybe 1-3 times a day).
The screen is white when awakening from "sleep mode", turning on and off the screen fixes that after a while (50% of the time white screen when from sleep mode).
I have found out that putting a finger nail between the keyboard and the screen, on the right hand side, when in closed position, and then putting the screen back on, gives me a 99% chance of funktional display.
The problem also accurs in the "full keyboard position", But putting the finger nail in the same spot helps.
So I think the problem of the connection is in the keyboard part of the phone, since those slide contact always are on the right hand side, and the display contact shift side.
I would lite to know if any body have a permanent solution for this.
(I have now opend my phone yet, and I have tryed the putting thin plastic between the display and the cover, with minimal success)
thanks for your time
alkizmo said:
I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.
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These are the exact symptoms of the "SCREEN FADING INTO WHITE" problem. See this thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
The common causes for this are a bad connection to the D-PAD controller PCB (in the technical manual they mention it should be carefully checked and the really small screews with same torque making a 90 degree with the PCB), a bad controller (that was my case, had to order a new one) or not enough pressure on the square black chip on controller (some people seem to have fixed it by putting a plastic sheet in between the chip and the case, to apply constant pressure).
I suggest you try to re-open your phone and reconnect the D-PAD PCB as carefully as you can, double checking the connection and the screws there.
I did fix my problem, by ordering a new PCB and replacing the old (probably bad) one. It started to happen after I dropped my phone and it's the only thing that worked. Now my phone is as good as new.
Hope this helps!
Similar Issues with screen
I have similar issues;
Anything thats on the foreground gets closed by the 'x' button and if I slide it open the start button gets continually pressed!
Seems to be the top right corner of my TS thats at fault
sometimes it's fine....most of the time its not!
Andy.
I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?
lepic2019 said:
I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?
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You can rule out the ROM and M/board in my view for this specific problem. Your issue is very similar (and I think has the same cause) as those who find programs close randomly when in portrait mode and when they open the keyboard the start menu often pops up untapped.
I think this is just a case of a bit of pressure being put on the screen top right corner. Some folks have tried the business card run around under the bezel fix and had some success others have had to return for replacement/repair.
Some have taken the device apart and removed the gasket around the screen under the bezel, but this is not guaranteed to work.
Others have replaced the screen and for this particular problem it is very rarely successful as the screen is not normally damaged.
If you have a warranty use it - all of the above "fixes" are warranty voiding.
Mike
Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.
lepic2019 said:
Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.
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It will be interesting to see what results you get. You'll need the old rubber band technique to hold the battery in place while you do it!
Mike
Well it's not due to the case squishing the sides of the screen as I just dismantled my hermes, wired it all up in bits on my desk, powered it up and still the screen has a dead spot in the middle and phantom taps in the top right. Temperature is normal room temp, approx 22deg c today.
I'm not sure the exact mechanisms of how these touch screens work out where you are tapping (resistance, voltage), but it looks like there are 3 separate strips running around the screen. 1 goes straight across the bottom, two goes up the LHS and across the top and 3 goes up the RHS. Therefore there is a gap between strips 2 and 3 in the top RH corner. Coincidence? hmmm It seems to me for it to register a tap in the top RH corner, strips 2 and 3 would register low voltages (or high resistance) and bottom wouldn't register at all. Thus suggesting a fault with the PSU that powers the touchscreen. Taps near the edges work because they are near the edges and therefore the resistance is not too great and can be detected, taps in the middle and worse off because they are far from all the detecting edge strips.
Does anyone think that there might a registry tweak for boasting power to the touchscreen?
Hermes Whie Screen Problem
To fix the "white screen" problem, you have to take your unit apart, and reconnect the ribbon cable.
I have a new 8525 and it started happeneing to me, so I took it apart this week, and reseated the ribbon connector.
Fixed the problem.
Has anyone here read and understood all that is said here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/library/aa919680.aspx
Perhaps someone could compare the touch.dll in Black Majik to WM5 - should be the same right?
How come that HKLM/hardware/devicemap/touch doesn't show the touch.dll driver as drivername? Keyboard has it's driver...microsoft says it should say drivername = touch.dll
Do you all have that in your registry?

Smart use of Proximity sensor can kill the need for the lock screen

The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
hm. try pocketShield?
it locks and unlocks your device by use of the light sensor.
Interesting. I will use it for now.
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
Apparently this will happen even without the help of the XDA community...
I've just sent the following email to PocketShield:
Hi,
I would like to know if you are working to utilize the HD2's proximity sensor for unlock (like you did for Omnia). If so, when should we expect a version with this feature ?
Thank you very much.
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This is their answer:
That’s the idea, but can’t confirm that yet because we are not sure if hooking into the proximity sensor will be possible. Hope yes, as in Omnia2. Just received our new HD2 today and will start to dive into it next week.
Best Regards,
Jim
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so has anyone tested this for the hd2?
http://www.pocketshield.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
Noam23 said:
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
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Use TouchLockPro. It has both light and proximity sensor and it is free.
kweiss10 said:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
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Looks like the guy from the answering machine has found a new job
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
Noam23 said:
The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
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You are wrong about one important detail though. The screen is very sensitive and can easily be pressed through the lining of your pocket, and even through fairly thick fabric like jeans.
it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
saintnickxiii said:
it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
jamieeeee said:
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
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In the case of Pocketshield, it won't. Because all sensors only turn on during a short period of time (seconds). Once you unlock or turn off, sensors go to sleep. This is one of the reasons why "auto lock" is not possible, because that will indeed involve a permanent monitoring on the sensors.
saintnickxiii said:
it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
X1-owner said:
You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
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oh, i didn't know it was that sensitive, then, i can really see a need for an apps like this.
but, what about just a normal case? slip it in and out? i mean, i think that COULD solve your problem in a 'no thrills' sorta way... but it wouldnt be as exciting now would it?
madbird said:
hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
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this of course is also true.
taking this into account, i would suggest everybody ground themselves. lol, no... just kidding. i don't even think that would help.

Problem while on hands free....the phone is unlocked in pocket!!!!!

Hi all
So i got my HTC HD2 nice feel to it....but..
2 things :
1:while i have handsfree on i answer a call as always and the phone unlockes in my pocket a.s.a i answer and then...well buttons keep pushing and calls keep shutting off e.t.c
i called HTC and they said nothing they can do and that there is a 3rd party app to fix this....well i am to "stupid" cause i cant find it..
plz help.
2:Very sensitive screen and i have dificulty figuring out hoe to change that..
thnx allot guys for "listening" hope to get some answers...esspecially for nr1 its a pain....
Hi,
I know you are new on here but a few threads up from yours you would have found this one...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Take time out to read it and you should find answers to at least some of your problems.
Good luck
WB
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
loomx said:
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
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Whilst the screen is capacitive, the material of a pocket may be thin enough to still allow a key press to register.
Also I believe the hard keys would still be available to press and could hang up the call.
I think there is an issue with the keypad becoming active while on a call.
I've used this phone since launch and it's driving me nuts.
One of the main problems is the proximity sensor which should turn off the touch screen during an active call intermittently doesn't work.
I called my wife today and cut her off at least twice because of this bug.
There is a reg tweek to reduce the sensitivity of the screen- you have to google it.
SMS is alos occasionally sticking.
I'm going to start a new thread to ask if 1.61 cure these issues.

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