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Ringtones

Just got my xda2 a few days ago and found how cool you can make the ringtones. With the old nokia stile phones you could go to the web site selling tones and just rip the midi files directly in to data suite and transfer them. well sites started to make the preview as an mp3 making it very hard to convert them back to midi. well how cool is it that i can now go and get polyphonic tones of the pay sites and just convert them in to wave files and set them as ringtones. Or if you not like poly tones just cut down an mp3 file with 'real soundin' music and convert that. ohh i like it

Have you already tried to record something like "Mom is calling! $your_favourite_ring" and use it with personalized ringtones? Or "Incoming short message detected!" - sounding like StarTrek?

Hi,
Yip its very very cool!!!!
And you can also try wma files
Or go to my page and get some there for free
Cheersssss!!!!

Ring Tone & Video Problems

Hi,
I can't play MP3's as ringing tone. Also can't play MPEG & AVI within Windows Media Player. Could someone please help. I have only recently purchased my XDA, so any pointers would be muchly appreciated.
I have updated to the new rom version 172181 and still have this problem.
Could someone please advise.
Many thanks.
Steve.

Windows Media Player doesn't support AVI and Mpeg formats on Pocket Pc devices.
To play mpeg formats you need PocketTv or others programs.
To play AVI files you need a BetaPlayer or Simply install Album Program from XDA2.
Also,You can't play Mp3's as ringtone because you need to convert first them to Wav files or Midi..To convert use any Wav-Mp3 Converter on i-net.
Good Luck!

Im currently looking into and seriously considering writing a program that allows more formats of music/sound to be used as ringtones, i quite like the sound of MMF and MOD files and i think they wud sound cool as ringtones. I hear that windows mobile uses VOIP to handle incoming calls so im hoping that the API is accessible and i will be able to write a program which "monitors" phone activity and will intercept incoming calls etc. If anyone has any knowledge on this that they are willing to share please do so
Marc

yeah that would be usefull of cause most people just use converter programs on the pc to make all those formats into wma and use them that way
because it would require some programming to play the good old mod formats because you need the sample file aswell to play the patteren of the mods

True, there are some pocket pc MOD Dlls though that i could perhaps make use of, they may not be freeware but a lot of applications distribute fmodce.dll so i could just make use of that if it were present on the users device. Id also like to see the midi mapper on the xda changed as well coz in my opinion its pretty crap!
Marc

Download the Lemmings Clone from Jacko Biker.
It contains full source code - that does also include a MOD Player LIB.
( eVC 3 and 4 compatible )
That is a good starting point to improve this LIB ( However, it works already very good and stable )
Cheers,
Scorpion

ok, ill take a look at it sometime today. is there any requests for what people would want in my app so i can put it into the design?

ok, ill take a look at it sometime today. is there any requests for what people would want in my app so i can put it into the design?

If you try are looking for lemmings you'll find it has vanished from nearly everywhere, apparently thanks to SONY contacting the site owners to have it removed.
http://www.professor-oak.com/lemmings/
Anyway, I found a chinese site which still has it. If that happens to vanish, I've got a copy if anyone needs it. (FYI It's not brilliant - seems to have no volume control and exiting requires a soft boot).
http://down1.tech.sina.com.cn/download/pda/2004-05-08/5095.shtml
ghuth

MIDI as Alarm

Hi,
I read that it is possible to have MIDI files as alarm sounds so i put a midi file i use on my old SE in the windows directory and when i go to choose the alarm tone i don't see it. is this supported in MDA Compact? what am i doing wrong? please advise. thanks

were did you read this? afaik... you can use midi, wav, mp3, wma for ringtones (via caller id app) windows mobile uses wav and wma for ringtones, but wav only for alerts. hope this helps.

I think it was on the AlarmToday user forum. i thought something was wrong. anyway, thanks for replying, it's a shame that midi cannot be used for alarms i don't think it's a technical or logical impossibility but microsoft works in mysterious ways i suppose. if there's a workaround or a program that would do this i would greately appreciate it if someone could point it out. once again, many thanks

Well, if you have a midi player for pocket pc installed you might be able to pull it off with AlarmToday.
On their site I read:
"Powerful custom alarms to play music (including complete songlists, MP3, WMA, OGG or Realplayer), open documents or applications and much more"
This should in theory make it possible to create an alarm event that starts the midi player software with the midi file of your choice.

Why not convert your midi file to wav it's very simple and then you can use it as an alert?

Do you know the wav file type is so much bigger than the other types of audio?

I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files

Thanks for your thoughts
stratguy said:
I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files
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I still use a SE P800 smartphone and what you just wrote is what I had to do. WAV files are big but with a bit of creativity in making an alert or ringtones it is just to easy. " Ask and you shall receive"
X-man germ

Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:

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Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:
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No, I am not a musician. My username is just a nick name from my first name and the germ part is only short for Germany.

Cool thanks, germ is a term we use in the music biz. Thats why I wonered :lol:

Maybe my music taste in "Rage against the Machine" which leads left can explain why I choose my name. Power to the People.

Wat Software do U use to do this? I am looking for a software that can transform anything in everything (mp3, wav) from original CD's. and cut them in small durations. I don't find that...

I use CDex, which BTW is a free program. I love it

Very Very upset

I have tried umpteen times to get my ppc6800 to see the new mid. files loaded onto my phone, i do not know when there is a new text until its too late to reply,
I put the mids in windows folder, ring folder and every where else, still the drop down list does not show them. HELP ME PLEASE , before i revert to my caveman tactics of beating this thing into the rocks until it makes me smile!!
WHY would anyone, anyone put out a phone, that by default has only a smigent of a notification to let u know that u have a text or e-mail?? I would understand if u could make it repeat, and or LOUD, but u have a better chance of hearing a nat fart than u have of hearing their default sound!
So if anyone out there has fixed the problem and would like to share the answer, PLEASE help me..

Put them in documents and settings.

I just tried that
Thank u for ur reply, i did as u said, even soft started, and two wav files showed up, in the drop down menu, but they make no sound.
charlie

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I have tried umpteen times to get my ppc6800 to see the new mid. files loaded onto my phone, i do not know when there is a new text until its too late to reply,
I put the mids in windows folder, ring folder and every where else, still the drop down list does not show them. HELP ME PLEASE , before i revert to my caveman tactics of beating this thing into the rocks until it makes me smile!!
WHY would anyone, anyone put out a phone, that by default has only a smigent of a notification to let u know that u have a text or e-mail?? I would understand if u could make it repeat, and or LOUD, but u have a better chance of hearing a nat fart than u have of hearing their default sound!
So if anyone out there has fixed the problem and would like to share the answer, PLEASE help me..
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Are you trying to use it for the ringtone or the reminders/alarm?
For ringtone it should work. But for reminders and alarm you can only use .wav files. and you should put the wav file in windows folder.

I put all of my MP3's into the Ringtone folder and they work fine. For alerts and txt msgs I put the .wavs or .mp4 files into the Windows directory and they work.
Maybe it doesn't support midi?

Use QuickTime and export your MIDI files to WAV. That's what I do.

Not to be an @ss, but why use midi when you can use mp3's?

Possibly because there are many songs out there that were produced purely as Midi files. Or maybe the guy composes his own stuff on Midi?

gobmonster said:
Not to be an @ss, but why use midi when you can use mp3's?
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Because MP3's are much slower to start playing.
If you load a Midi or WAV it'll play right away, mp3's can take 2 or 3 seconds to start playing.

soo i think im in a little over my head

hello, first off im not very computer savy shall we say. i can do basic stuff and follow directions very good thoe. i just bought a htc p4300 which i believe in the wizard i really just want to figure out how make my own ring tones for now. do i need to sync the phone to my computer ? i down loaded some music to the phone already is there a way i can just use a song off my playlist as ring tone. any help would be great. thanks and again im a newbi to the smart phones so please be easy on me

well i figured out i have a g4 so ill go look in that section

custom ringtones need to be added to /my documents/my ringtones/ in main memory.

i tried to sync the song from my computer using windows media player but i couldnt get it to work. is there a way to do it right on the phone its self. again sorry for the dumb question but im just not to computer litereate compared to some of you guys out there

Yes, you should sync your phone to a computer, it will make this much easier for you.
First: get the sound file you want to use on your computer. edit it using Audacity, or convert it to WAV and use the Windows Sound Recorder, if all else escapes you. The final output should be .wma format ONLY (you might get away with using mp3, but I never did). Use the freeware program SUPER to convert files from any audio/video format to any other. For best results, convert to WMA at 16 bit stereo, 44KHz sampling rate, 96kpbs bitrate. Also, keep your ringtones under 30 seconds in length, or bad things will happen while your phone tries to play enormous ringtones and act like a two-way radio simultaneously.
I assume you still have Windows Mobile 5 on your phone (or you would have already bricked it if you tried to upgrade it), so you can download ActiveSync 4.2 to sync your phone to the computer (don't use 4.5, 4.2 is best for the Wizard with WM5, G3 or G4). This way you will be able to sync contacts, email, etc. but more importantly for this use, you'll be able to browse phone directories from your computer.
Deposit your new mp3 ringers in \Windows\Rings on your phone. Be patient navigating through the \Windows folder on your phone. There's a lot there, and it usually takes a while to open.
Then just switch your ringtone like you would any other. (I found that I needed to add a space between the end of the file name and .wma, as in "ringtone .wma" for it to work properly, your mileage may vary.)