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t-mobile's Web'n'Walk tariff with the MDA PRO

Hi all,
I bought a MDA PRO on the t-mobile tariff webnwalk that give 40MB of web browsing per month. The adverts and customer services specifically say web browsing or internet browsing.
I saw in a post the other day, someone saying that that is only for GPRS and NOT UMTS (3G).. Now is this true? The prebuilt mda pro doesn't give you the option to choose one over the other and there are no tariff plan details that say how much 3G data would cost..
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Hi,
i am a german t-mobile customer and here it doesn´t matter if you are connected using gprs or 3g.
Would make absolutly no sense, because the device automatically switches to the fastet network available and it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
The only important factor for the bill is the volume.
- Superbowl

superbowl said:
it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
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You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.

Yes, I am on web n walk in the UK and it's both.
40mb / month gives you just over a meg a day.
Now, if you buy/obtain the pocket MSN software, then you get your hotmail back (woohoo) but MSN messenger sucks bandwidth like there's no tomorrow - nearly a meg in a few hours.
Agile messenger doesn't use anywhere near as much data, and just in case the bandwidth usage was related to 3G, I went into the phone settings and where you have an 'auto' set for networks, choose GSM and it sticks to only GPRS. I later tested MSN messenger on GPRS and it still sucks data like a mofo.
For general purpose use, GPRS is fine and obviates the issue where the software/OS pratts about switching between networks. Web browsing is fine with images switched off and all is good again.
I am currently using about 3-400k/day which means I will need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month to use my entitlement (which is better than having to pay excess data charges cos I sucked too much data over the month).
End result is the same - I am connected to MSN through agile and keep in touch with friends during the day, and I get hotmail integration to the messaging apps.
All slightly OT to this thread, but I thought I would share my experience in case it helps.
Joe

joebongo said:
...I later tested MSN messenger on GPRS and it still sucks data like a mofo...
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Great line, made me laugh :lol: Looks like I should give Agile a go then. Didn't realise it was lighter than MSN.
And back on topic, I'm not on Web 'n' Walk yet (really should get round to switching...) but I spoke to a lovely lady at T-Mobile for ages trying to figure out which tarrif would suit me best, and at some point in the conversation she definitely told me that 3G data is charged at exactly the same rate as GPRS data, and the 40 meg allowance covers both.

Excellent!
We'll I've now done the registry fix to t-mobile Internet option to make sure it really is ALWAYS ON.
I'm in Spain next week and how I can use GPRS from there. You know which partner networks I should try it on and how much it'll cost me?
I've tried t-mobile and they give me different answers from 'you can't use gprs out in Spain' to 'it'll cost you at least £7 p MB'
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Had my stag do in Barcelona earlier this year and I was connected to Movistar for the weekend. GPRS rates were (from memory) about £7.50 per Mb which is what T-Mobile's standard GPRS rates were at the time (not sure what they are now?) I was already over my allowance for the month, so I dont know if my allowance would have been used up instead of having to pay the higer price (doubt it though!)

cr2 said:
You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.
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Ok, it´s possible. But why the hell should i change ?
- Superbowl

No Ones talking about changing.
The point is I wanted to make sure that using UMTS and GPRS doesn't change the billing.
Also, whe you go to another country you have to Roam and I also wanted to know how much that would cost me using gprs? (oh In Spain..) 8)

psteel said:
Excellent!
We'll I've now done the registry fix to t-mobile Internet option to make sure it really is ALWAYS ON.
I'm in Spain next week and how I can use GPRS from there. You know which partner networks I should try it on and how much it'll cost me?
I've tried t-mobile and they give me different answers from 'you can't use gprs out in Spain' to 'it'll cost you at least £7 p MB'
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I used T-Mob roaming in Australia via other cell companies and it cost me 7.50/meg I think.
And, weirdest of all, even tho I had T-Mob GPRS setup for the UK, I didn't change settings, it just worked over there (or appeared to). That was on a SE P910i tho.

That's damn expensive. How can they justify it? It's not like voice calls where you're paying for the foreign country to the uk and then from the uk to where-ever..You're just using the local network to hop onto their gprs network and the web... :evil:
It's about thime this planet got to grips with modern technology..Seem that the public think further ahead than the companies...

£7.50 Per Meg seems like the general consensus then.
Coincidentally (or maybe not?) that's how much T-Mobile charge even in the UK for either PAYG customers, or contract customers with no bolt-ons. (unless they've updated the costs recently)
As for the settings working abroad, GPRS connects via an access point such as "general.t-mobile.com" which is the same the world over. Much like a web address. Each network operator just monitors the traffic to your device, and bills accordingly. Obviously if your abroad, the local network operator bills your home operator and they mark it up 10000000% and bill you in turn.
(At least that's how I understand it)

Call 150 and the guy will tell you that it's for GPRS only. I think he might not have the proper authority of saying it, but then again, as long as this guy is a quotable source i.e. 150-guy; so the fact stands until someone made a 150 call and tell us otherwise

is there only way to get the number of MB currently downloaded with a *#XX# shortcuts ?
same for the number of minutes.. it's a bit pain in the bottom to have to call 150 (especially when you get the help yourself options)

dianna_wills said:
Call 150 and the guy will tell you that it's for GPRS only. I think he might not have the proper authority of saying it, but then again, as long as this guy is a quotable source i.e. 150-guy; so the fact stands until someone made a 150 call and tell us otherwise
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As I said before, the person I spoke to said otherwise. Conflicting information from the 150 crew then...I'll have to check through my new bill carefully once I've switched to Web 'n' Walk 200, but 3G data has never been charged differently to GPRS on my current tarrif (Relax 200 + 55Mb Data add-on).

cr2 said:
superbowl said:
it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
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You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.
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I also have web'n'walk ('flat rate' only for GPRS) so i dont want to use UMTS.
What do you have to change in the registry to use GPRS when UMTS is available??

There is no need to force the MDA Pro to use GPRS on T-Mobile. With the web 'n' walk tarrifs the 40mb is for use on BOTH UTMS (3G) or GPRS.
I can confirm this as I myself am on web 'n' walk 200.

I only ever use 3G on Web'n'Walk 200 (cause I live and work in London), and I haven't been charged for my first 40 Megs yet so no-one on this tarrif should worry!
If you are concerned, sign up on the T-Mobile website for "My T-Mobile". I've finally gotten around to doing this myself, and now I can track my spending easily (even from my JasJar, if I so desire) and change my account options etc, without having to go through the Service Centre every time.
And for those people who have to pay for calls to 150 because they're on a webshop account, you needn't ring 150 ever again (probably!)

Maybe i have a different web'n'walk. I'm from holland and here we have 'pocket internet total' 9,50/month and no time or mb limit. One problem, the t-mobile site says its only for GPRS!
But there is a chance that UMTS is also inclusif, and t-mobile just forgot to mansion that, because i have no charges for umts sofar(MyTmobile)...

joebongo said:
Now, if you buy/obtain the pocket MSN software, then you get your hotmail back (woohoo) but MSN messenger sucks bandwidth like there's no tomorrow - nearly a meg in a few hours.
Agile messenger doesn't use anywhere near as much data
Joe
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This has not been my experience when I used Messenger on my old imate JAM - must test this, cheers. Is Agile Messenger better in other ways too?

Cingular 8125 & Medianet Unlimited: Your Bill

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This thread is only about your experience with the Cingular 8125 using the Cingular "Medianet Unlimited" data plan. This does NOT include experience with the "PDA Connect" plan or experience with any smartphones.
FACTS NOT TO BE ARGUED HERE (ALREADY RAN INTO GROUND):
Medianet Unlimited is the plan for WM5 Smartphones (2125/etc), PDA Connect is intended for full PDA's with touch screens. Medianet Unlimited is currently $20/month versus PDA Connect at $40/month. If you have Medianet Unlimited with any phone then put your sim card in a Wizard/8125, MU will work on the new phone. I am using this combination right now, and many others are also.
QUESTION:
If you have had the opportunity to use your Wizard/8125 with Cingular's "Medianet Unlimited" plan, did you get billed for your GPRS/EDGE data as per kb? I have heard many reports of people either continuing to use Medianet Unlimited without any problems or using it and getting a $1000+ phone bill where they are billed as if they have no data plan. I haven't received my first bill yet while using this combination and I'd like to know what to expect.
For some reason I slightly doubt that Cingular can detect what phone you are using, unless you are using POP email/etc through it. Maybe do they have a list of phone ID's and when you connect you transmit this?
Thank you for your input!

I have an 8125 with cingular's medianet.
only get charged 19.99 every month. have had this setup since the phone came out (Feb i think). Best option out there. I have push email and gmail setup, so i'm sending/receiving plenty of data.
19.99 a month!!!!

8125 cingular
I'm using the media net unlimited plan. I actually just switched not too long ago from the pda connect plan to a media net bundle. All for $20 a month I'm getting unlimited internet, 200 messages(mms or sms) and unlimited cingular video. Unfortunately the 8125 doesn't support the video end. That's why I have a slingbox. BUt when the 8525's come out hopefully I'll be able to utilize the cingular 3G video. As for right now, on my bill i do get itemized billing so it says how many kb's were used but I haven't had a bill that wasn't the amount that it is supposed to be. Minus going over on minutes. Other then that I haven't had any problems with cingular. I was with nextel for the past 5 years and I must say that the billing and service are far superior with Cingular.

No problems here
I have been using MediaNet Unlimited for a few months now.
Not once have I been billed for Data Usage (except for the $19.99). Previously I had PDA Connect & a Text Message Package, MNU is saving me $25.00 every month.
I would ask anyone who claims to have been billed $1,000s to scan and post their bill (blacking out private info of course). Until I see that I can't believe such claims.
I've even tethered to my laptop without additional charges!
The only drawback is that you must use the wap.cingular APN as isp.cingular APN is not available to MediaNet Accounts.

From what I have read on howardforums about the billing issues is that CSR will leave a Medianet Pay per use (PPU) code on the account while adding the package. The PPU code overrides all packages and charges you by the kb for the data that you have used. It takes a phone call to cs and a 3-6 month wait for a service credit when this happens.
There's at least one good reason to not have an auto-debit on your account.
I guess I should state that I'm running an 8125 with media maxx 200. This is my first month so we'll see what happens with my data charges.

Good, it sounds like I won't have any unexpected charges on my next bill and I won't have to go without mobile data. I already decided that I wouldn't pay the $40 for PDA Connect if they figured out that I'm on an 8125 now. $20 is almost reasonable but I'd rather do without it over spending $40. I rarely even use it because it's so horribly slow.
Xoom: I read a lot on Howard forums and Cingular's own public forums about the issue. I was also wondering if the problem didn't stem from the fact that they were using Medianet Unlimited with an 8125, but possibly due to some other issue. I did hear once about the pay per use feature overriding data packages, but people were saying it started when they switched from a smartphone to the 8125. It's also possible that these reports were posted by Cingular to persuade people to buy the $40 plan out of fear.
Anyone else with experience on this also? The more reassurance, the better.

I am also on the 20 dollar medianet package. I've never been charged extra and i use pushmail and am nearly always connected through aim. I use about 150mb of data per month. I really think that all of those posts claiming to have been found out and charged thousands of dollars on both the cingular and howard forums are planted there by cingular. unless your data usage gets unbeleiveably high(over a gb) i dont think they're going to pay you any attention.

same here $20 unlimited media net and have push email and no problems

People getting charged per KB are the dumb asses that have their phone set up to use the ISP apn and not the WAP apn and don't have a PDA package.
If you have a regular MEdia Net plan, you HAVE to use the WAP apn.
Also, Cingular DOES know what kind of phone you're using. The fact is though, it's not against the rules to use a regular MEdia Net package on a PDA phone. The PDA plans are just there for the suckers.
I have a grandfathered MEdia Works package which has Unlimited MEdia net for $20 a month, and I have not seen a single extra penny charged using my 8125. I've used upwards of 150mb of data transfer in a month, and no extra charges.
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I have been using the MNU for $19.99 with a Imate K-Jam (Wizard 200) since January 2006. My wife has been using the MNU on a K-Jam since May 2006. I have used POP3, IMAP, Exchange RCP, HTTP, HTTPS, I think FTP once, and tethered my laptop. Yes, kyphur is correct only the wap.cingular gateway is opened with the MNU option. As I understand there are 2 other gateways at Cingular: the isp.cingular that is enabled with the PDA Connect unlimited plan, and the blackberry gateway that is used by the Blackberry Connect software for Windows Mobile or a Blackberry device.
I have just recovered from 4 months of crazy charges ($3000 neighborhood)that were from international data roaming charges using my K-Jam overseas on a Blackberry International unlimited plan. The charges have now been refunded and I have had to purchase a blackberry for my international travel. The sales person added the plan to my account and had left the wap.cingular configuration in the phone. It was odd that not all of my international data usage was billed. However the amount that was charged was large enough for me to notice and demand a refund from Cingular. For 3 months (billing cycles) they just apoligized for the mistake and refunded the money. The 4 th billing cycle I was getting pissed and after several hour plus conversations with Cingular they determined that I should not have been put on the Blackberry International plan because I did not own a Blackberry. Then they tried to sell me a Blackberry at full retail, no way! Thank you eBay and $100 bucks later I am in Scotland with my Blackberry and no extra charges. But I feel handicapped with the Blackberry and use my K-Jam when I'm back in the states. Unfortunatly with the Blackberry International plan Cingular only opens the Blackberry gateway and leaves the wap.cingular turned off (I bet this helps Cingular avoid those large charges I was seeing in the previous months). Does anybody know the blackberry gateway (ports, proxy, username & password) settings to let a Wizard onto the blackberry network? Right now I have to use the Blackberry connect software on my K-Jam and mobile internet explorer does not work.

i was one with $1000 + bill from medianet with my 8125 but its not for the reasons in the first post. they said the medianet unlimited plan i had has a 2 year contract on it and it had expired. they bumped me onto the 5mb plan and i had over 100mb downloaded that month. i told them it was illegal to switch me without my notification and that they need to offer me a comperable plan when they should have notified me. she checked with her manager and apologized reversed the charges and offered me the media 200 plan which i have been using fine for 3 months now.

umm good one
That s a good question becasue it depends on who sets your account up. if it the wrong person the n you will still be charged the per kb rate. I know I worked for them for two years up untill two weeks ago. thousands of people rate plans get set up wrong but some are true errors. make sure you ask them to go over it and note the accounnt.
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Xoom said:
From what I have read on howardforums about the billing issues is that CSR will leave a Medianet Pay per use (PPU) code on the account while adding the package. The PPU code overrides all packages and charges you by the kb for the data that you have used. It takes a phone call to cs and a 3-6 month wait for a service credit when this happens.
There's at least one good reason to not have an auto-debit on your account.
I guess I should state that I'm running an 8125 with media maxx 200. This is my first month so we'll see what happens with my data charges.
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That's what exactly happened to me. When I switched to MediaNet Unlimited, the stupid CSR left a PPU on my account so I was billed over a thousand dollars. I switched to the 40 dollar unlimited plan to clear up the mess.
After my bill was cleared up, I called back Cingular CSR and switched back to MediaNet Unlimited and it's been fine ever since. I think it all depends on the CSR you are dealing with.

I find it funny how so many people are saying that cingular's 8125 is supposed to be used with the PDAconnect plan per Cingular TOS.
Funn thing is,
isp.cingular.com: PDAconnect
wap.cingular.com: media net packages
blackberry.cingular.com: blackberries
Guess what gateway my 8125 came configured with from the factory?
wap.cingular.com

PDA connect vs Unlimited media net
Just an FYI. I work for Cingular. I can honestly say that many cust are getting away with just haveing media net. However, Cingular is aware of it and I have personal helped customers that had huge bill because of it. I know that Cingular is "fixing" the problem. They cant do a mass fix so they are one at a time pin pointing the customers that are using pda's and "fixing" their bill so that it bills per kilobyte. I know from calling customer service that as of right now they are issuing credits to the customers that agree to move to a PDA connect plan.

i use the me1 package old media works package on my 8125 and my nokia e61 and have not had any problems. i ran thru plenty of data, as a matter of fact last month i used 750 mb and the monthe before that 550mb this month might be a little more im averaging 24mb a day

Great to hear this, so far we have not had one legit response saying that they were overcharged only for the reason of having medianet on an 8125.

My question is how many people here have push e-mail on the MEdiaNet plan? I have to get my boss to send a request to have the company that runs our network to update their server from 2003 to 2003 SP2.
Also, I was talking with a cingular CSR and he stated the with the wap you get the mobile versions of webpages and with isp (pda connect) plan you get the full web page. Which you can change by tweaking your registry to make your device look like IE6.

ok - this thread got me interested. I never went for a data package when I moved to Cingular, but now I cant use IM's at work I was looking at my options.
After I visited a Cingular store in NJ yesterday, the CSR was ready to sell me the MediaNet Unlimited package for $19.99 a month, even though he had seen my O2 XDA Mini branded Wizard and I pointed out that that in the small print it stated not for PDA use.
The one thing that was stopping me signing up was the fact that he said I would not get full html access to all sites and he did not know if I could use MSN Messenger. Then her started talking to me about using AIM over text messaging... I walked out at that point!
Reading the last post, is there a reg hack / work around to allow access to more sites and/or all html access?
Can anyone confirm that they can use MSN Messenger with MediaNet?
Thanks in advance.

I don't seem to have a problem surfing the "regular internet" on my wizard.

Cingular data plan options?

I have an old AT&T converted Cingular account that I originally got with an SMT5600 smartphone. I have been using it in a HTC Wizard for the last year.
I looked at the Cingular version of the Hermes yesterday, and I an tempted to upgrade, but I kind of balked at the data plan cost! the want $40 a month now! I have been paying $25 for unlimited data, and now they want to almost double that!
Has anyone tried, and been successful, putting and old SIM from AT&T or Cingular into one of these - keeping their current old data plan and being able to use 3G speeds?

Bertil said:
I have an old AT&T converted Cingular account that I originally got with an SMT5600 smartphone. I have been using it in a HTC Wizard for the last year.
I looked at the Cingular version of the Hermes yesterday, and I an tempted to upgrade, but I kind of balked at the data plan cost! the want $40 a month now! I have been paying $25 for unlimited data, and now they want to almost double that!
Has anyone tried, and been successful, putting and old SIM from AT&T or Cingular into one of these - keeping their current old data plan and being able to use 3G speeds?
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I have with no problems I have the old Blue ATT SIM with the $24.99 unlimited mMode plane works great in my TyTn with 3G

The biggest factors in considering one plan over the other are the following:
- do you use Cingular's proxy
- do you use WiFi (which doesn't play well with the proxy settings)
- do you use Exchange ActiveSync / PushMail
- are you a big SMS user
- do you care about Cingular Video
- do you need access to ISP.CINGULAR (as opposed to WAP.CINGULAR), which includes a static ip address
PDAConnect (39.99/mo) needs no proxy and works better with PushMail, but does not include SMS or Cingular Video. This is the better plan for me personally.
I say try using the cheaper plan and see how it works for you...

marka2k, you just made my day!
That's great news...
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....

goestoeleven,
I'm OK with current functionality, I would of course not mind the higher speed. I never use WiFi really.
I've heard that the Cingular connection works better than the old AT&T for things like radio streaming...

Bertil said:
marka2k, you just made my day!
That's great news...
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....
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You won't get any new Cingular phone while staying on old AT&T plan. You'll have to buy an unlocked phone elsewhere.

I was referring to buying some generic Cingular phone with their 19.99 plan, and then buying a Hermes unlocked.

get the free phone
Bertil said:
... Maybe the really sneaky thing to do would be to go with any new (free) Cingular phone, get the 19.99 per month plan, and then switch....
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actually, that's what I did. I got a free RAZR phone (good for when I drive the motorcycle). I am on the MEdia Net plan for $19.99 that includes 200 SMS (and/or MMS). The MEdia Net plan works just fine with my unlocked TyTN.
The issue with the proxy is easy to work around. Set up the My ISP connection without the proxy, and the Work connection using the proxy. If you need the proxy, just go to IE and connect to wsp://device.home IE will then connect using the proxy & you can go from there...

from my experience they have never made me get the pda connect crap, i have always had the media net unlimited.. actually i just upgraded my data plan to the extreme that includes the 3k text and i even told them i had the 8525, they said ok and that there is promo where the first month is free and added it to my account

I have a few accounts, one of them being a legacy AT&T Wirelss plan.
The way I look at is, there is no reason to pay $480.00 a year($40.00 a month for 12 month) for a pda connect plan if you do not need the isp.cingular apn or the need to bypass the proxy server.
IMHO, I would buy the device at full retail, keep your AT&T plan and over the long run, save money on not upgrading to CNG and not paying for incoming txt messages.
Dan

Thanks guys!

So it sounds to me that I could take a SIM card from one of my smart card, with the $19.99 unlimited data plan and use it on my 8525. Of course it would now have that phones number. Is this right?
Thanks

Fishdave said:
So it sounds to me that I could take a SIM card from one of my smart card, with the $19.99 unlimited data plan and use it on my 8525. Of course it would now have that phones number. Is this right?
Thanks
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your number is stored on that card, doesnt matter what phone its in (as long as its compatible with your provider)

cingular data plan
I signed up for new service and got an 8525. the media max and plans showed up as options. now with cingular online acct management, I can sign up for smartphone connect (i have) or media max plans, or pda connect for 20 more. the cingular proxy is only needed for connecting to their media net servers. so far I haven't needed or wanted to do that. there is a guide on how to set it up in the forum somewhere as a separate connection.
my download speeds from dslreports wap site are 650-800k. sometimes I have a long wait to download a page, but I think it isn't related to the data plan.
I haven't had anyone from cingular try to make me get pda connect, and i'm pretty sure it won't change the data service quality on my phone.

i just run the My Isp connection and it dont use the proxy, i have a regular unlimited data plan, i average over 400meg a month in data alone and all for the low price of the media max bundle, isnt life great

Anyone got a more detailed FAQ on the ISP settings?
I'd like to know what the differances are, addresses of the proxies..
ETC..
I've been trying to read up on everything..
Thanks!
J

Proxies Proxies Everywhere...
I have an 8525 with the default Cingular Settings.
First off.
Do I need the Proxy Settings?
I don't use any of Cingulars Services, nor do I care to.
I would like to use WIFI more if it worked right. (seams to be the Proxy Issue)
I do use the Web, Connect to servers and other machines, and basically do everything I do I my computer (at least everything I am able to do)
I also travel in Europe at times..
Or if I need one am I able to setup a Proxy Server of my own?
Any Benefit?
Or If I have to use a Cingular one is there a difference between the ISP.CINGULAR.COM, WEP.CINGULAR.COM and the WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM
Thanks
-J

goestoeleven said:
- do you need access to ISP.CINGULAR (as opposed to WAP.CINGULAR), which includes a static ip address
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I've contacted Cingular regarding the Static IP previously. They told me that the Data Plan Unlimited (which I'm on now) does not come with a static ip, that I share my IP with other users. This was a great let down for me, as I've seen other companies provide this with absolutely no problems. Would you be able to direct me on who I need to talk to, or what I need to say, to get this enabled on my account?

I do the 39(think it is 39 second from top unlimited plan).
I pay extra for text messages and save 5$ from the higher up plan (which does come with more messages, but I never use them).
My question is, for $5 more a month would I gain anything else to make it worth paying more?
Not sure what use a proxy and static ISP would be over what I use now.
Thanks in advance!
Q

AMEN Shogun, i use the mediamax 1000 plan. i used it with the 8125 and when i had a Nokia 7710. Never had any problems at all. Even tho when i bought my 8125 the guy in the store swore up and down that there was no way the mediamax would work on that phone. He told me i would be back to change it after a week. lol. I told him to just leave my account alone. i need to check out this 3k plan kuzz i need more text

UK cheapest Internet for Smartphone ???

whot is the best deal for cheapest internet in UK for mideum to havy use
i.e. Voip Skype, Windows Live mesenger ?
preferably SIM only ?

i'd like to know the options too. I used to have O2 pay and go and it burned my credit ridiculously. Orange pay and go is OK atm, i pay a fiver for 1 week. It does seem slow, though. Even when the edge icon is showing, my laptop's internet connection is always sloow; windows reports 230.4 Kbps, dslreports reports 42Kbps but things seem sluggish.

I love my tmobile sim only monthly contract.
£7.50 a month for50minutes, but, because it's a contract, I get 5to add the £7.50 a month web n walk bundle onto it.
Virtually unlimited* data for £15 a month.
* I use lots of push email, messaging, grpahical rss feeds etc.... they've never given me trouble.

X 3 sales consultant
i think your best bet is 3 network. they have the best deal with skype and unlimited browsing at £5 a month. all you have to do is signup for a £15 deal and then include X-series silver in your price plan. you will get a free handset(nokia6120 recomd).then you can take out your sim/chip and pop it into any 3G handset.

shelay said:
i think your best bet is 3 network. they have the best deal with skype and unlimited browsing at £5 a month. all you have to do is signup for a £15 deal and then include X-series silver in your price plan. you will get a free handset(nokia6120 recomd).then you can take out your sim/chip and pop it into any 3G handset.
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That's not bad.
EDIT: Oh hold on "When using the internet, you can't use some websites (including adult websites)" - I don't like isps telling me what sites I can't visit?
Also:-
# Unlimited data* to use on:
# Web surfing (Yahoo! Search, Yahoo! Go)
# Mobile Mail (Yahoo! Mail, Gmail and other ISPs)
# Podcasts
Does this mean I can't access the rest of the internet? Is it still wall gardened?

Sim only on 3
im thinking of getting SIM only offer with free windows live mesenger untill end of 2007 (sounds good)
and question about 5 pounds internet addon ----
cen i wisit site's like XDA-developers etc. will it be imcluded in that 5 pound addon ?
is limit a 1GB a month or what ?
it sed not to be used as a modem, whot will they do if i do use it as a modem ? how would they know ?
will all these work on Windows Mobile 6 smartphone ? (WM6 Treo750 unbranded, unlocked)

been tryin to research this myself too! V frustrating tryin to work out what im gettin for my money with so much *terms and conditions bulls**t!
use my htc touch for work to receive email sending and receiving would be nice to be able to use skype and general internet with out worrying about costs!! web and walk seems to exclude messinger and voip, 02 is offering me 600mins 500txt and 1mb for £35/month or xtra 20mb for a tenner extra and £300 cashback over the year dont know how quick i would use 21mb tho?

Dose anybody know if Three (3) UK network internet add-on include MSN (Windows LIve Mesenger) conversations ?

Best Network for PAYG Surfing (noob with m3100 hermes)

Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc

i dunno about cheapest/best data provider, but for sure noone offers free evenings.
3g service is a capability built into your phone, and a "3g" sim card is just a normal sim card. there really is no such thing.
Wifi IS most definitely free if you connect to your own router.

Thanks for the responce , I know Orange do free evenings....
"Get up to 1000 free texts to anyone every month
and free evening mobile Internet browsing"
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/sim/payg_sim
Apparently the most you can spend is 1 pound a day (on most providers) , is this for 3G as well as / or only for GPRS. And are there any hidden charges?
How have you guys found browsing on your PPC's/PDA's etc?
Also which provider should i choose , who provides the best service in your opinion?
cheers
roy

as i understand it, 100p = 1 pound, right?
It shows that each area/region code has different going rate.
It seems like a reasonable deal, and orange i believe has 2g services (EDGE)
I think it says that the REGISTRATION fee is 1 pound, and the most you will end up spending for data is 2 pounds a day. This works like any prepaid card, you add money, you call people, money gets taken off the card.
It seems like a good deal, but orange has a history of sneaky language.
For example, their "Unlimited Data" actually mean "At 3 gb, we start watching you"

roy8846 said:
Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc
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I think the 3 network is the best , 5 pound per month for 2 g data . it is very good at the moment , I use it for some months and the speed is ok so if you want to use the net on the go you should try to give it a go
buy a 3 simcard
install cap file on your spv m3100 which is all setting for internet
click start/setting/connection
click connection/manage existing connection
click Proxy setting/advanced
stick this network uses aproxy server to connect to the internet
click wap under server enter 192.168.71.35 under port 9201
click ok 5 times
topup 10 pound PAYG and then use your spv 3100 go to http://mobile.three.co.uk/pc/Live/pcreator/live/mwsun
go to my 3
from there you to buy internet add-on 5 pound p/m
you should only go to internet after bouth add-on because if you didnt they will charge very expensitive