Memory Management? - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General

Hello,
actually I´m trying to install all programs and data which may be helpful for me on my new Vodafone compact s.
But very fast I run into data memory limitations.
I´m using a SD card and the installers give me the choice to install the programs either in the device or in the storage card.
What is your advice:
which type of programs or data should be stored inside the device or on the storage card (compatibility of programs with operation from SD card..., any differences in access speed..., what happens when I change the SD card and the installed programs are missing ...)???
Cheers, Gerd

Almost all my programs are running from my 4GB SD, no problems so far….
But what I do have on main memory (because they’ll slow down the device otherwise) are
1.Resco Explorer
2.Photo Contacts Pro
3.PocketPlus
4.PocketBreeze
5.TCMP
Hope this’ll help :wink:

All the programs that I use on my Today, I used to put on my device memory. The rest on the SD. Be sure you read the programs, they used to tell us where is the place to save it.

Hello and Thank You for your answers!
The actual state of my investigations is also that almost programs can be installed on the SD card.
One exception: the .NET 2.0 from Micro$oft, which I need for WifiFoFum doesn´t run from the card
Cheers, Gerd

I installed NET framework 2.0 on my SD card, no problems there.

no matter where you instal cf .net it goes to main memory like voice command. safe bet is today plug in's in main everything storage, because crucial updates won't really let you choose. it just appears that way.

Problem: Voice Files for TomTom Nav. 5 on SD
With the voice files for TomTom Navigator 5 I had a problem with installing on SD card:
I installed all (program, maps etc.) on SD card and it worked well, beside that it was not possible to select the stored voices. After installing the voice files in internal memory (doing this, TomTom insisted, that the files allready are installed ...) the voices could be selected in the settings menue of TomTom.
Cheers, Gerd
P.S.: with the largest map (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Poland and Czechia, more than 400MB) TT needs about 1 minute tu start up.

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install TTN5.21 from SD card?

Does anyone know a way to install tomtom 5.21 straight from sd card on wm5, without having to install via my PC/activeysnc?
I can do it on my xda2i by just extracting the cab from the 5.21 exe file and putting that in the 2577 folder on the sd card. Works great, so if I get a device lockup and have to hard reset, I'm not going to get caught out and have to trek home for my PC just to reinstall tomtom. I just insert the SD card and everything installs itself. Sweeeeet.
But try the same on the wizard (and I guess any other wm5 device) and the install fails. I'm guessing its just a tomtom thing as their site does say you can only install using activesync. But thats so lame. It would be great if someone has found a workaround?
Install 5.1 first onto the SD card using the howto (and test). Then install 5.2. Move the new files that 5.2 CABs insist on putting in main memory (in /Program Files/Navigator, /Contacts Navigation, /TomTom) to the corresponding directories on the SD card (Note that the directory names are slightly different - keep the 5.1 names).
I've not had to test 5.2 yet, but 5.1 seems to work OK running purely from SD after a hard reset (i.e. with nothing installed to the PPC). The only thing I had to do was recreate the shortcut in the Start Menu. You might not be so lucky with the Contacts integration, but I don't use any of that.
Thanks for the suggestion, but it hasn't fixed the problem.
I've got around it by just copying across the ttn.cab file from the 5.21 exe onto the main memory of wizard and running it from there. This 1 cab file seems to install everything that the 4 cab files installed in 5.0 and 5.1.
It would still be nice if it would install straight from sd card, but at least now I don't have to install from my PC anymore - which was the main problem.

install apps in storage card

ei guys how can i install apps in my sd card coz xda mini has small built in memory...
my phone went hang freezes when loaded of installed apps..
specially the .exe installer the phone doesnt ask if i install it to sd memory or phone memory its direct installed in my system memory
pls...help
thanks
when you install via activesync, it will ask you if you want to install to default directory.. click NO and it will let you choose "Storage Card"
wow! thanks for the help i found it so easy....
thanks
ei i install flashdash onto my sd card but the system memory decrease...why?
Sometimes the app allocates some files to the main memory so that it can be standby even when the PPC is turned off.Some time just a lot of log or temp files.
BTW:If you install CAB files,use CabInstaller to specify the location to Card.
Cheers,
Tian

Storage Card issue

Is there a fundamental difference between how the Storage Card is handled between Mobile 5 an Pocket PC??
After several different problems I have now managed to get PrymeNav V1 to install and run - up to a point.
The Map Installer claims the storage card is full and will only install maps into Main Memory. Unfortunately most maps are too big to install in MM.
This version of PrymeNav predates Mobile 5 and I assume that it would install to SD card on older versions of Windows. So what's the problem now??
As far as I can tell PrymeNav doesnt set any registry entries or have an ini file.
Clive

Moving TomTom from MicroDrive to MiniSD

Hi people,
Since I started to use my HTC X7500, I have TomTom Navigator 6, including all the needed stuff like maps and voices installed on the MicroDrive.
No problems there, but I now wanted to move the entire TomTom Navigator 6 from the MicroDrive to a 4GH MiniSDHC card.
I moved everything and TomTom starts and works, except for the voices. There are no voices!! The "VOICES" folder which was previously in the root of the MicroDrive, now is in the root of the MiniSDHC card, as it should.
Yet TomTom won't find any of the voices, so I can't access/use them.
When I place a copy of the "VOICES" folder to the MicroDrive again, TomTom WILL find the voices and can use them.
Now the question is, how can I get TomTom to use the voices from the "VOICES" folder on the MiniSDHC?
It obviously keeps looking for them on the MicroDrive.
I already uninstalled TomTom with removing all remaining .cfg and .ini files I could find, but after reinstalling the situation still was the same.
Thanks for the tips!!
try:
just copy data05 (for english) these two files. put them in the same foder where u have navigator.exe.
Thanks for the tip.
But what if I want to keep the entire (50MB or so) "VOICES" folder?
There should be a way to have TomTom forget about the MicroDrive and to use the Storage Card?
i believe u need registry editing.
royalmail said:
i believe u need registry editing.
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Yeah.... where and what?
Searched everything containing "tomtom" and "voice".... didn't do.
JayRayMee.NL said:
Yeah.... where and what?
Searched everything containing "tomtom" and "voice".... didn't do.
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Put them on the SD card, and delete the ini file in the voices folder before starting tomtom.
Wiz said:
Put them on the SD card, and delete the ini file in the voices folder before starting tomtom.
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Unfortunately that didn't work..... still no voices when I try that.
The strange thing is that a new "voices" folder containing the "collected.ini" file appears on the MicroDrive when I've started TomTom.
I guess it @#@$! keeps looking on the MicroDrive.
More tips?
I'm using an ETEN X500, but I think the answer may be the same.
The collected.ini file, together with whichever DATA*.CHK file you choose, is by default placed on Main memory - in my case \Program Files\Navigator\voices
If you delete the collected.ini file, you can choose a new voice (the 50Mb file for which can be on your card) but TomTom will again by default store the new collected.ini + *.CHK files on Main Memory.
I've never found a way to change this behaviour, but the "voices" folder on Main Memory is about 650kb, so I live with it.
Ok, but why is it possible to use the voices folder on the MicroDrive then??
That was my situation at first. Since I figured everything works faster when stored on the Storage Card, I decided to move everything.
The thing is that TomTom works, but that the voices are the only thing he keeps looking for on the MicroDrive....
Even after the official WM6 ROM upgrade, the voices will only work when the folder is present on the MicroDrive.
Come on, there must be a way...... or not?
I think you should search for any folder names "voices" (usually in \Microdrive\voices, \storage card\voices, \program files\navigator\voices). Remove all of them, only keep the one you want to use (i.e. on the SD card). also make sure there is no "collected.ini" file left. This file will be re-creteated at the next Tomtom startup.
I believe Tomtom looks in the root folder of all memory devices (main memory, microdrive, sd card, etc.) for a folder called "voices".
Anyway, it does work for me (I have moved all tomtom stuff from the microdrive on the SD card too and it works).
S.
Why not try a regular (non-Athena specific) install (like 6.030 from TT direct, or 6.032 from the Kaiser)?
silviu.h said:
I think you should search for any folder names "voices" (usually in \Microdrive\voices, \storage card\voices, \program files\navigator\voices). Remove all of them, only keep the one you want to use (i.e. on the SD card). also make sure there is no "collected.ini" file left. This file will be re-creteated at the next Tomtom startup.
I believe Tomtom looks in the root folder of all memory devices (main memory, microdrive, sd card, etc.) for a folder called "voices".
Anyway, it does work for me (I have moved all tomtom stuff from the microdrive on the SD card too and it works).
S.
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Thanks for the tip.
Tried that, ending up with the "voices" folder without collected.ini only in the root of the Storage Card.
I even deleted the navigator.cfg file from program files\navigator\ and guess what..... it didn't work!!
While running TomTom there are no voices available and when I close it again, a voices folder containing collected.ini have been created in the root of the MicroDrive and in program files\navigator again......
Then where on earth does it get its instructions from to look on the MicroDrive?? Need to kill that!!
Waht version of Tomtom are you using? I have 6.030.
silviu.h said:
Waht version of Tomtom are you using? I have 6.030.
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6.00. Is it a version issue?
Might be, my "old" version 6.xxx (before 6.030) couldn't event find the maps when they were elsewhere than \My documents (which caused some problems as the maps are often >150 MB). You should try to upgrade to 6.030 (besides they say that the internal GPS is managed better after tghe upgrade even though I didn't notice any improvement on this topic).
I had a similar problem, it didnt matter how many files i deleted or even uninstalled, it still couldnt find my post codes or voices, but after I did the upgrade to wm6, I then reinstalled tomtom direct to sd card, and now the voices are working again, I wonder if there is a hidden file somewhere that needs to be deleted.
SOLVED!!
Well folks,
I got my hands on the latest TomTom Navigator 6.03 and the problem has been solved. I uninstalled Navigator 6.00, moved the entire "voices" folder to the Storage Card and then installed 6.03. Works a charm!! The voices are useable on the Storage Card now.
It seems to be a real "6.00 problem", since a lot of people I know have had the same problem, as well on the HP iPAQ hx4700, which has both a SD and CF slot.
Another great thing in 6.03 is the new "Internal GPS" GPS selection feature. Just select "Internal GPS" as your GPS device and the fix and accuracy is better than ever. No trouble like COM-port or baudrate, just the setting.
Happy now!!

Installng TT6 to microdrive

Hi Guys' - I can't seem to find anything about this (maybe too bleeding edge ) but I don't want to commit my miniSD slot to just running TTN6.
Does anyone have any hacks or proceedures for getting it to run off the microdrive instead. I have the full package - DVD + miniSD.
I tried copying the entire 1GB miniSD to a folder on a 2GB one and trying to manually install from there. It does install but upon running claims it can't see any maps...grrr.
Regards
//copperwave
go Tiger!!!
you need to put the maps in the root folder of the sdcard/microdrive
pocket mech
pocket mechanic can move programs from one drive to another, cleaning up the registry, links etc.
but can it move programs from sdcard to another sdcard with only one sd-slot?
well you could still move it to the microdrive first and then change the cards.
mojo2000 said:
you need to put the maps in the root folder of the sdcard/microdrive
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Quick update - Fixed
I copied the contents that were in a separate folder on my working 2GB minSD to the root of the card and one quick install later thunderbirds are go!
Thanks Guys!
//copperwave
new card
well, if you're just upgrading cards.. do it on the pc, with a cardreader to/from your HD.. much faster

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