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install TTN5.21 from SD card?

Does anyone know a way to install tomtom 5.21 straight from sd card on wm5, without having to install via my PC/activeysnc?
I can do it on my xda2i by just extracting the cab from the 5.21 exe file and putting that in the 2577 folder on the sd card. Works great, so if I get a device lockup and have to hard reset, I'm not going to get caught out and have to trek home for my PC just to reinstall tomtom. I just insert the SD card and everything installs itself. Sweeeeet.
But try the same on the wizard (and I guess any other wm5 device) and the install fails. I'm guessing its just a tomtom thing as their site does say you can only install using activesync. But thats so lame. It would be great if someone has found a workaround?

Install 5.1 first onto the SD card using the howto (and test). Then install 5.2. Move the new files that 5.2 CABs insist on putting in main memory (in /Program Files/Navigator, /Contacts Navigation, /TomTom) to the corresponding directories on the SD card (Note that the directory names are slightly different - keep the 5.1 names).
I've not had to test 5.2 yet, but 5.1 seems to work OK running purely from SD after a hard reset (i.e. with nothing installed to the PPC). The only thing I had to do was recreate the shortcut in the Start Menu. You might not be so lucky with the Contacts integration, but I don't use any of that.

Thanks for the suggestion, but it hasn't fixed the problem.
I've got around it by just copying across the ttn.cab file from the 5.21 exe onto the main memory of wizard and running it from there. This 1 cab file seems to install everything that the 4 cab files installed in 5.0 and 5.1.
It would still be nice if it would install straight from sd card, but at least now I don't have to install from my PC anymore - which was the main problem.

Need Help Transfering

I have a HTC wizard fully loaded with appz and games. I just recieved my new 2GB miniSD. I want to know the easiest way to transfer all the files from one miniSD to the other, that way I don't have to re-install everything.
There's proably some hidden files and stuff since I have programs installed onto the card. Also I don't think the new miniSD is formated yet. Please help ASAP.

Zaiaku said:
I have a HTC wizard fully loaded with appz and games. I just recieved my new 2GB miniSD. I want to know the easiest way to transfer all the files from one miniSD to the other, that way I don't have to re-install everything.
There's proably some hidden files and stuff since I have programs installed onto the card. Also I don't think the new miniSD is formated yet. Please help ASAP.
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The Files can be transferred directly through The Cable connection By Using WINDOWS EXPLORER but Many Apps share common files which are copied in the Windows or the system folder or even the root.
They might not work on the other Wizard.
Take Backups..whatever you do
All the best :wink:

Moving TomTom from MicroDrive to MiniSD

Hi people,
Since I started to use my HTC X7500, I have TomTom Navigator 6, including all the needed stuff like maps and voices installed on the MicroDrive.
No problems there, but I now wanted to move the entire TomTom Navigator 6 from the MicroDrive to a 4GH MiniSDHC card.
I moved everything and TomTom starts and works, except for the voices. There are no voices!! The "VOICES" folder which was previously in the root of the MicroDrive, now is in the root of the MiniSDHC card, as it should.
Yet TomTom won't find any of the voices, so I can't access/use them.
When I place a copy of the "VOICES" folder to the MicroDrive again, TomTom WILL find the voices and can use them.
Now the question is, how can I get TomTom to use the voices from the "VOICES" folder on the MiniSDHC?
It obviously keeps looking for them on the MicroDrive.
I already uninstalled TomTom with removing all remaining .cfg and .ini files I could find, but after reinstalling the situation still was the same.
Thanks for the tips!!

try:
just copy data05 (for english) these two files. put them in the same foder where u have navigator.exe.

Thanks for the tip.
But what if I want to keep the entire (50MB or so) "VOICES" folder?
There should be a way to have TomTom forget about the MicroDrive and to use the Storage Card?

i believe u need registry editing.

royalmail said:
i believe u need registry editing.
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Yeah.... where and what?
Searched everything containing "tomtom" and "voice".... didn't do.

JayRayMee.NL said:
Yeah.... where and what?
Searched everything containing "tomtom" and "voice".... didn't do.
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Put them on the SD card, and delete the ini file in the voices folder before starting tomtom.

Wiz said:
Put them on the SD card, and delete the ini file in the voices folder before starting tomtom.
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Unfortunately that didn't work..... still no voices when I try that.
The strange thing is that a new "voices" folder containing the "collected.ini" file appears on the MicroDrive when I've started TomTom.
I guess it @#@$! keeps looking on the MicroDrive.
More tips?

I'm using an ETEN X500, but I think the answer may be the same.
The collected.ini file, together with whichever DATA*.CHK file you choose, is by default placed on Main memory - in my case \Program Files\Navigator\voices
If you delete the collected.ini file, you can choose a new voice (the 50Mb file for which can be on your card) but TomTom will again by default store the new collected.ini + *.CHK files on Main Memory.
I've never found a way to change this behaviour, but the "voices" folder on Main Memory is about 650kb, so I live with it.

Ok, but why is it possible to use the voices folder on the MicroDrive then??
That was my situation at first. Since I figured everything works faster when stored on the Storage Card, I decided to move everything.
The thing is that TomTom works, but that the voices are the only thing he keeps looking for on the MicroDrive....

Even after the official WM6 ROM upgrade, the voices will only work when the folder is present on the MicroDrive.
Come on, there must be a way...... or not?

I think you should search for any folder names "voices" (usually in \Microdrive\voices, \storage card\voices, \program files\navigator\voices). Remove all of them, only keep the one you want to use (i.e. on the SD card). also make sure there is no "collected.ini" file left. This file will be re-creteated at the next Tomtom startup.
I believe Tomtom looks in the root folder of all memory devices (main memory, microdrive, sd card, etc.) for a folder called "voices".
Anyway, it does work for me (I have moved all tomtom stuff from the microdrive on the SD card too and it works).
S.

Why not try a regular (non-Athena specific) install (like 6.030 from TT direct, or 6.032 from the Kaiser)?

silviu.h said:
I think you should search for any folder names "voices" (usually in \Microdrive\voices, \storage card\voices, \program files\navigator\voices). Remove all of them, only keep the one you want to use (i.e. on the SD card). also make sure there is no "collected.ini" file left. This file will be re-creteated at the next Tomtom startup.
I believe Tomtom looks in the root folder of all memory devices (main memory, microdrive, sd card, etc.) for a folder called "voices".
Anyway, it does work for me (I have moved all tomtom stuff from the microdrive on the SD card too and it works).
S.
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Thanks for the tip.
Tried that, ending up with the "voices" folder without collected.ini only in the root of the Storage Card.
I even deleted the navigator.cfg file from program files\navigator\ and guess what..... it didn't work!!
While running TomTom there are no voices available and when I close it again, a voices folder containing collected.ini have been created in the root of the MicroDrive and in program files\navigator again......
Then where on earth does it get its instructions from to look on the MicroDrive?? Need to kill that!!

Waht version of Tomtom are you using? I have 6.030.

silviu.h said:
Waht version of Tomtom are you using? I have 6.030.
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6.00. Is it a version issue?

Might be, my "old" version 6.xxx (before 6.030) couldn't event find the maps when they were elsewhere than \My documents (which caused some problems as the maps are often >150 MB). You should try to upgrade to 6.030 (besides they say that the internal GPS is managed better after tghe upgrade even though I didn't notice any improvement on this topic).

I had a similar problem, it didnt matter how many files i deleted or even uninstalled, it still couldnt find my post codes or voices, but after I did the upgrade to wm6, I then reinstalled tomtom direct to sd card, and now the voices are working again, I wonder if there is a hidden file somewhere that needs to be deleted.

SOLVED!!
Well folks,
I got my hands on the latest TomTom Navigator 6.03 and the problem has been solved. I uninstalled Navigator 6.00, moved the entire "voices" folder to the Storage Card and then installed 6.03. Works a charm!! The voices are useable on the Storage Card now.
It seems to be a real "6.00 problem", since a lot of people I know have had the same problem, as well on the HP iPAQ hx4700, which has both a SD and CF slot.
Another great thing in 6.03 is the new "Internal GPS" GPS selection feature. Just select "Internal GPS" as your GPS device and the fix and accuracy is better than ever. No trouble like COM-port or baudrate, just the setting.
Happy now!!

MiniSD data disappeared, HELP!

Hey everyone,
for some reason, my MiniSD card looks empty all of the sudden.
didn't do anything special.
i just see a Outlook folder, and it had 1.8GB of music and programs.
when i click memory i see 1.8GB of 2GB used.
but i just dont see all my data.
what should i do to repair it?

If you have a card reader remove card from phone and put it in there, computer should see everything, then when you put it back in the phone it ought to be good.
otherwise just remove it reset the phone and then put it back in again, that might just about do it.
rootbit said:
Hey everyone,
for some reason, my MiniSD card looks empty all of the sudden.
didn't do anything special.
i just see a Outlook folder, and it had 1.8GB of music and programs.
when i click memory i see 1.8GB of 2GB used.
but i just dont see all my data.
what should i do to repair it?
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Well, that didnt work.
i ran StorageTools on it, but then it just deleted the rest of the missing files and gave me the whole miniSD as empty.
so i did a hard reset and reinstalled all my software
and today it happened again
all the data is lost again
what do i do?

I have the same! Once in a while I loose files from my storagecard. I have to reinstall the programs.
I made a copy to my PC, so I can copy back if again I loose files. But I really don't know why this strange behaviour happens.
Maybe it's the card itself?

So its not even just me
anyone else had this issue? found how to solve it? i had it day after day.
do you also have the problem where the card looks like it hasent recovered the space?

It's an old problem. If you use search, it turns up few dozens.
Are you using WM6 or WM5? WM6 reportedly has better driver support for SD(HC).

I'm using WM5.
2GB cards arnt SDHC?
i tried searching but didnt find anything that looks like that problem.
want to help me out with a link?

I have this file loosing problem with WM6 and WM5, but not so often, maybe once or twice a month.

Hmm... it was reported that WM6 would solve this problem but it turned out that it's not true.
Perhaps you guys should try the application called sdsentry, which would save your day.

happened to me a few days ago.. something to do with losing power and killing the file allocation table (or something like that).. I used a program called 'GetDataBack for FAT' and got almost everything back.

MiniSD Data dissapearing workaround
1. Stop ALL programs running from miniSD (plugins, background progs, etc.)
2. Trinity On, remove miniSD card.
3. Soft reset Trinity.
4. Using File Explorer (since this could be the only option available), DELETE the "STORAGE CARD" directory.
4. POWER OFF Trinity.
5. Insert miniSD card
6. POWER ON, voila!
Use it at your own risk, it worked for me just fine.
For Admin: Since thius is a pretty common issue for Trinity owners it may be a good idea to make the message STICKY.
Cheers, Fanelul

Yeah this is a pretty common problem. I had a patriot 2gb nonSDHC card once which had this problem, recurred all the time, changed to kingston and never had it again.
This is probably gonna be your best choice unfortunately.

I had the same issue some days ago with my Trascend 2GB , that's what I did:
1- via a card reader I saved all data in the minisd to a tempdir on my desktop
2- reformatted minisd in FAT
3- copyed all files again from the tempdir to the minisd and reinserted in my Trinity
4- All my files are back again
This help only if you can see your files on the desktop via the card reader..obviously..
Bye

fanelul said:
1. Stop ALL programs running from miniSD (plugins, background progs, etc.)
2. Trinity On, remove miniSD card.
3. Soft reset Trinity.
4. Using File Explorer (since this could be the only option available), DELETE the "STORAGE CARD" directory.
4. POWER OFF Trinity.
5. Insert miniSD card
6. POWER ON, voila!
Use it at your own risk, it worked for me just fine.
For Admin: Since thius is a pretty common issue for Trinity owners it may be a good idea to make the message STICKY.
Cheers, Fanelul
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fanelul,
how can you delete the "STORAGE CARD" directory since you removed the miniSD card before? As you know when you remove the card the directory disappear from file explorer list..
Bye

I've had this problem twice.
What I did when data diasppears was:
1) soft reset
2) use the file explorer of ppc
3) you should see 'storage card' AND 'storage card2'
4) delete 'storage card' and leave 'storage card2' alone
5) soft reset
6) you should get everything back whe the ppc reads 'storage card2' as the offset storage card when it changes back to 'storage card' minus the '2'
Hope this helps many.

isnt the case
Hey, this isnt the case, sorry.
i dont have Storage card2.
anyway, i just got this thing again
this time i lost all the folders on the miniSD
but the files that were flat on the miniSD are still there
i think ill try buying a new miniSD card.
if that dosnt work ill send the Trinity for repairs.

Hi,
I've same problem since I use a PNY 2 Go sd card.
To solve it quickly I switch off the screen (hard button on the right top), remove and replace mini SD, and it's ok.
No problem with my 1 go....
After my christmas trip I'll replace Wester_Europe map by French_map and burn my 2go card....

I had a similar problem too. But not all the data disappeared from my minisd.
I used to store images taken from the camera in the rootSD/MyDocuments/images.
My Trinity deleted ALL the data inside the MyDocuments directory, and the data inside Windows directory.
This happened after a soft reset. My Trinity was frozen and i had to soft reset through the lower button.
When it turned on again didn't find any of the programs installed.

Missing Directories on Memory Card

Hi @ all,
since a few days most of my memory card directories disapperaed. There are only the My Documents folder (which is empty, too) and a TEMP folder I created left on the card.
Although I searched for some threads like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324 all attempts failed.
The space on the card is still occupied and when re-installing programms a new Program directory is created with the same name as the dissapeared one. I have one program when the installer claimed to remove the previous version first before re-installation. So it seems to find something (but I assume in Windows directory or registry).
How will I get the dissappeared folders back? Is there any other chance than formating the SD card and re-installing all programs?
I'm using bepe's cooked German WM6 V0.96 (the last one) and a 2 GB miniSD-Card. It worked quite well since a year now...
Thanks for help,
TC

TC25FFM said:
Hi @ all,
since a few days most of my memory card directories disapperaed... when re-installing programms a new Program directory is created
TC
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... y lo cagaste, me temo.
trinity, for some reason, spoils the FAT and reestablishes it with new data. the FAT is like a directory of "where to find what on disk".
as yout fat doesn't work properly, especially it doesn't show off the used sectors or clusters, all new storage will overwrite and destroy this way part of your old data.
so if this happens, remove inmediately the sd-card, put it into your PC card reader and pass it trough file appropiate rescue programs and you'll mostly find almoust all files.
so take a breath, download file rescue pgm's to your PC (some work better, others have many options, others ...) and have a try.
after the rescue, format the SD in your PC.
mine is just passing the rescue :-( and it's rescueing about 1600 files yet
regards