Push Email and Connection Manager - Networking

Bits of this post have popped up elsewhere on the forum but have never (AFAIK) been fully addressed.
I am using a Wizard running on the T-Mobile network. I am subscribed to their "Total Internet" service courtesy of my employer and use the T-Mobile My-Email service to keep an eye on my personal emails.
The reason for this post is last week I upgraded to a new ROM which was primarily built for the Cingular network. I chose not to install the extended ROM but instead applied a number of cabs that I have written / collected that keep my phone working and looking like my phone...However I forgot to install the cab to configure the T-mo email client. - This got me thinking, how do I use the stock push email functionality within WM5? The icon is there in Connection Manager but it is disabled. I have looked on the internet for other push email solutions but they all rely on their own PPC client. Nothing that I have seen appears to use the embedded functionality. Can anybody explain how this push email functionality all hangs together?

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Blackberry configuration

here are two files to configure blackberry for microsoft exchange and lotus notes including pdf file with instructions
tried to set this up before and drew a blank big time entered the info as it requested pin and imei but it kept saying i was a registerd user ,spoke to a decent bloke at 02 got to speak to him 2mora see if blackberry can reset my account even thou ive never used it strange anyone manage to get an account set up at www.o2email.co.uk .....
Pen6uin, where did you find the PIN to enable registration.?
The Pin
Can be found once you open up the blackberry software and go to settings, make surfe you click 'enable' and 'start', it will then be below the IMEI. I must add that O2 told me quite emphatically that this service will not be available until Jan. 2005.
blackberry service
For what its worth; I called O2 this morning as was told the Blackberry service was due to be available from 1 Nov, but there is a small delay.
The lady I spoke to went away and checked with the "data team" and told me it should be available in the next couple of weeks....
(Surprisingly; she was aware that the new rom release for XDA II included blackberry software; usually the call centre staff seem to be the last to know such things)
Was playing around with the Blackberry software installed the in 1.72 ROM but don't think i can use it as i'm not subscribed with O2 UK
What about Wallaby ?
Any hint whether this BlackBarre application can be installed in anyway on an XDA 1 ?
I lifted the HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab
from 1.72.181 extended rom from hobbit http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12526&highlight=blackberry
and tried to install in on a Qtek9090 (xdaIII, pda2k)
Everthing installs OK but when I am to connect to the device from the PC it claims that the "Services are not correctly configured"
I have checked for configuration files and settings in the registry but at a quick glance it seems that the configuration is hardcoded in some dll.
I have BlackBerry Enterprise in Sweden (Vodafone as carrier)
I wont give up yet but if anyone else succeds please write a few lines!
Best regards!
ok after a conversation with a rather upto date call center bod he has told me to call customer services and (get this he called me back lol ) they need to activate blackberry on my account and then try again apparently he said most off the setup is to be done on the handset so he will keep an eye on my account and then call me again (i feel honoured )when i have it activated to tell me the set up.what a nice man
pen6uin said:
ok after a conversation with a rather upto date call center bod he has told me to call customer services and (get this he called me back lol ) they need to activate blackberry on my account and then try again apparently he said most off the setup is to be done on the handset so he will keep an eye on my account and then call me again (i feel honoured )when i have it activated to tell me the set up.what a nice man
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Let us know when he gets back to you.
Have you got the logon to the site yet?
Did you have to ask for APN 57 (blackberry.net) from CS?
ok my quest continues ......
after speaking to cs this morning they put me onto data support who again are very knoledgable think there has been some training going on at 02 ,anyways he checks my account again and the usuall 'O' let me see if i can do it from here still no joy,he calls cs and does mention apn bydandie
he then transfers me to cs to give security details for the gzillianth time lol to activate it and says it should be activated within the next 24 hrs ...... so we shall see i will give an update asap
my surgestion is to mention the apn switch on for blackberry when calling cs to avoid the data support call .
Im getting the same issue about IMEI already being defined, and requested to log in with existing userid (which I havent set up).
Id also like to use my exisiting work VODAFONE SIM, which is GPRS enabled to our corporate BES (but Blackberry service removed) - will this work? (XDA is unlocked).
Finally anyone know if there's a true Vodafone/QTEK 2020 ROM upgrade - we've got these as work as well.
Blackberry Working!!!
Ignore my last posts - Ive now successfully got the XDA working on our corporate BES.
Was really a case of just following the instructions in the docs above, ensuring Blackberry enabled account (couresty Voda) being used.
No sweat.
Probably still some things to sort out for web based service though.
Andy
Hi. Great news!!! What is the actual cab file putting the BB functionality on the device? I would like to avoid installing the whole new ROM if at all possible. Has anyone tried installing just the BB? Thanks
Today I had time to test the BlackBerry client (look at my post above) HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab on a Qtek 2020.
And I got it working without any trouble
However, installed it on a 1.66 device and after a while the Bb client disconnected from gprs and I had to connect it again.
I connected it against a Blackberry enterprise server and, could successfully send & recieve mails and make address lookup to the GAL.
It also recieved the IT policy but I dont know what policy settings it applied :shock:
When I tried the same package on my Qtek 9090 it was very sluggish and never connected, so the client abviously works very close with the radio stack!? If anyone has better results than me please let me know
Best regards
Thanks for the guidance. Got the cab. Now, here's the golden question. What does BB enabled account mean? If I have GRPS connectivity is that not enough? I am guessing in order to control pricing packages there may be certain ports used by BB that the carrier blocks and then when you pay the fees for BB enabled account they simply enable them. Is this the case? Thanks for your clarification.
chosl said:
Today I had time to test the BlackBerry client (look at my post above) HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab on a Qtek 2020.
And I got it working without any trouble
However, installed it on a 1.66 device and after a while the Bb client disconnected from gprs and I had to connect it again.
I connected it against a Blackberry enterprise server and, could successfully send & recieve mails and make address lookup to the GAL.
It also recieved the IT policy but I dont know what policy settings it applied :shock:
When I tried the same package on my Qtek 9090 it was very sluggish and never connected, so the client abviously works very close with the radio stack!? If anyone has better results than me please let me know
Best regards
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Does this cab file install other applications other than the BB client? Coz I dont want to install any other app except the BB client on my XDAII since its an Asian ROM 1.66.
I worked my way through the guide doc for Exchange all the way up to :
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
This checkbox is grayed out on my device. Were you able to select this checkbox? Thanks
k_kirk said:
I worked my way through the guide doc for Exchange all the way up to :
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
This checkbox is grayed out on my device. Were you able to select this checkbox? Thanks
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hey kirk. what rom version are you using? i am about to install the cab file on my xdaII 1.66

TMobile and XDA II Blackberry

Can someone tell me if they have been able to configure the XDA II Blackberry to work with TMO in the US? Is this even possible...
No I dont think so yet. Uless you can connect to the UK blackberry enterprise server. You might want to go to their website find that link and set it up there. It might work anywhere your phone is (i.e. if you are a business travel) The US Blackberry webclient is set up right now only for Blackberry decvices right now i belive. Also the current server set up does not alllow picture transfer. Limmited file trypes. only word, excel, powerpoint i belive. Blackberry has always been weak in the attachment department. I think this is the reson you dont really see it on the handheld side yet. Im not sure what O2 UK has cooked up or if they are running the newest implimwntation of the Blackberry enterprise server. But where ever you are to get a @o2.blackberry.com or @tmo.blackberry.com address and store and forward someone has to have the BB server, and have it configured to support the device type you have.
In the mean time some interesting things.
1. the Webclient service ONLY pushes mail to your device every 15 minutes. So nothing more special then the PPC can do already. You can set your device to poll for new messages every 15 minutes. (I think in the end the BB webclient implimentation is going to be a let down, nothing new, nothing special, just something, more to sell you.)
2. If you are a member of ClubImate sign up for clubmail. You'll get access to an echange server that can be set up on the device side to get your mail as it arrives. Basicly the same thing as BB except its sync'd not just dumped onto your device for safe keeping like BB.
Just an FYI.
Unfortunatly the most stable solution I have used so far is the HP iPAQ 6315 mail trigger system. Seems to work the most reliably over all the others. The big downer is it costs SMS charges everytime you get an email, is near impossible to port to a non-iPAQ6315,
but works flawlessly.
Yes you can if your SIM is blackberry enabled. ie. If you currently have a corp blackberry device, you can take the SIM out and pop in into a XDA II with blackberry connect installed. I'm receiving Corp and bwc e-mails on my XDAII updated with the latest O2 firmware xx.181. You need to download the balckberry configuration software from O2 or search the forum as some kind soul uploaded the software here. For corp e-mail, you need to have connection to exchange server and chnage the PIN number of the device since it is based on your IMEI.
Good luck!
David
Thanks David.
I have 1.7xx.181 with Blackberry Software installed. I have a Blackberry SIM.
How do I get the PIN Changed?
Finally got it working...
The only problem I have is that the outgoing mail... It goes through the device hits my Corporate Lotus Notes but doesnt reach the recipient..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=68068#68068
This is the thread with bbconfig files for lotus notes and exchange. Check to see if you have the service books on your XDA II. Did you have blackberry functionality via notes before?
May be your IT poeple hard coded the blackberry PIN to your account
Managed to get BlackBerry functionality running on my XDA2. I call it now XDA2Berry...
Quick questions I am hoping someone can help with :
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Thanks & Best Regards
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
Not currenttly possible. Tasks, events and contacts ability will apparently be there for XDA when BES 4 is released
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
No, but I too would love to know!
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Same for me I think it's not currently possible for that - I did ask.
Thanks for your kind reply. Any idea when BES4 is coming out? Regards

Useful Utility for PocketPC - Comments please....

I connect to 4 or 5 different wireless lans in the various places I work and also to GPRS.
For each one the connection to the internet will be with a different provider and therefore the SMTP server I need to use for sending mail will be different, or may even be a POP service running on a local Exchange server.
This is a pain. I have written a utility that solves this problem by allowing you to switch smtp server for all your mail acccounts in any mail client quickly on the fly.
Basically you configure any mail clients to use an smtp server called virtualsmtp and then you set up all the different smtp servers you use by IP address in the utility.
The utility sets a host record in the registry for virtualsmtp pointing to whichever smtp server you want to run.
It's called SMTPSwitcher (very imaginatively) and runs from a notification icon in the system tray.
It's a bit flaky at the moment (mainly windowing problems and issues with the NotifyIcon) and I also can't delete the server entries because RegDeleteKey always returns error 5 : Access Denied.
If anyone wants to test it or has any ideas or comments please post here.
I'd be happy to test it for you
nice software. I was wishing for it last thursday when I had to send mails from the wifi access point of a friend.
I would be glad to test it (qtek 2020, windows mobile 2003), once my phone decide to work (it did a quick 3 seconds journey in my wc today. oops)
OK. I can post the app here.
1) There is no install program at the moment, just an exe file.
The best way to install is to just copy to your PPC.
You can run by clicking on exe or create a shortcut in your startup folder.
2) It is written in c# for the .NET compact framework so you must have the .net CF installed which you probably have anyway.
3) The biggest problem at the moment is that the Remove button does not work properly.
If you need to delete entries from the list you will need to use a registry editor. The entries are stored in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\SMTPSwitcher.
4) Sometimes the app stops responding and wont display its form when you click on the icon. If this happens you can try to terminate it using the Settings->System->Memory->RunningPrograms option or do a soft reset.
I will be trying to fix the Remove button and unless I can find a fix for some of the problems that cause the app to stop responding I will probably remove the feature that lets you run it as an icon.
I had this problem ages ago where i would go to a friends house or a wifi hot spot but of corse could not send email.
To get round this i purchased a domain name and email account with easyspace. this works well for me, as it done not matter how i am connected either GPRS, or WiFi i can still send emails from just the one account.
The only problem just noticed the other day is if i use orange UK it works fine on GPRS connection but not if its a 3g connection, Orange are looking into this.
Please dont take this as critisisum your program is a excellent idea, I just like the idea of not having to take any notice of how i am connected and email working
John
Subscribing to a roaming smtp service is another way round the problem as is using webmail.
My problem is that I have 5 or 6 mail accounts in different domains and a lot of roaming smtp services will not relay for any domains other than the ones you have with them.
I have uploaded a new version which has a DNS resolver built in.
Instead of typing in the IP address of any smtp server you want tp use you can enter the name and it will look up the ip address assuming you are connected to a network.

BlackBerry Connect (BBConnect) for Wizard (T-Mobile MDA)

Hi,
Maybe I am beating a dead horse but could somebody please help me with these questions about BBConect.
Device: T-Mobile MDA with ROM version 2.26.x
Questions:
1. What are the advantages of using BBConnect (other than receiving emails from BB Servers)
2. Where does it write emails to (Outlook Inbox or any designated folder)?
3. If I use BBConect can I still use ActiveSync to synchronize with other Outlook Inbox folders?
4. I have seen somewhere that the WAP proxy needs to be changed: How does it affect other apps like T-Zones? Can I still connect to the Internet using GPRS?
5. How easy is it to install, configure & operate BBConnect?
Also if somebody could give a step-by-step install guide (all pdfs I downloaded are not in English), that will really help out.
Thanks in advance.
Before answering, I can tell you that rom 2.26 and the current BB connect client do not work. You will have to use a different rom. For me, based on postings on teh forum, qtek 2.17 and cingular radio 2.25 work well.
Now to your questions:
1. What are the advantages of using BBConnect (other than receiving emails from BB Servers)
replacement for bberry service and device. if your company has a BES server, you can now use your MDA to get corpoarte email. (I do not believe it works with blackberry internet service)
2. Where does it write emails to (Outlook Inbox or any designated folder)?
designated folder
3. If I use BBConect can I still use ActiveSync to synchronize with other Outlook Inbox folders?
yes
4. I have seen somewhere that the WAP proxy needs to be changed: How does it affect other apps like T-Zones? Can I still connect to the Internet using GPRS?
yes. BBerry will use a different connection. My MDA deals pretty well with switching from one connection to teh other (automatically)
5. How easy is it to install, configure & operate BBConnect?
if you have the right ROM, pretty easy. see the other posts on teh forum. But you can't6 use rom 2.26 yet.
Thanks for the answers.
I guess I will wait for T-Mobile to update the ROM.
I am not against running other ROMs, it is just that I have bricked couple of devices and wasted too much time to get the data back.
-G
Is there any option to have blackberry and MSN Messenger simultaneusly connected?
not really: they use different GPRS access point.
I know this thread is dead for some time, but I would like to get ne1fl0w5 wave here.
I have a Qtek 9100 from Claro (Telmex Brazilian sub). It was running 2.22.17.1 PTB ROM and 2.46.11 radio rom. First tried all BBConnect clients available (they were many). All installed but would halt at "Not connected" after first provisioning of the device and connection through GPRS/EDGE. After duly CIDunlocking the Qtek at imei-check (mine is a G4, I forgot to mention), I took a deep breath and decided to give it Vodafone's ROM a shoot.
I followed these instructions and managed to make it work.
Now, to your questions:
Questions:
1. What are the advantages of using BBConnect (other than receiving emails from BB Servers)
First of all, I have to say that I find (or thought, at first) BB email services excelent, but the devices really bad. Those little keys are small even for my 9-month old baby. Besides that, that trackwheel will certainly cause repetitive stress injuries. I used for less than a day and my arm started aking (please, don't say I am fragile) In addition, it was not made for lefties such as me. And the 8700g does not have an efficient cursor (for instance, if you are to delete a letter in the beggining of a line (or two words before the cursor), you would have to delete everything and retype the text.
For those reasons, I prefer the Qtek...
As per the system itself, I have to say that emails are delivered really fast to each of them. In Blackberry connect, the calendar items are also syncronized correctly as well. However, it did not sync my contacts (and it is probably not meant to), as opposed to the Blackberry device, in which both were available.
2. Where does it write emails to (Outlook Inbox or any designated folder)?
Designated folder. You can chose which server folders you want sync'd as well.
3. If I use BBConect can I still use ActiveSync to synchronize with other Outlook Inbox folders?
Yes. However, BBConnect uses a dedicated GPRS connection and it will compete with Outlook for the radio. You will probably have issues if you are looking for concurrent exchange push functionality.
4. I have seen somewhere that the WAP proxy needs to be changed: How does it affect other apps like T-Zones? Can I still connect to the Internet using GPRS?
Whenever you connect to do anything else, your BB connection will be lost.
5. How easy is it to install, configure & operate BBConnect?
It was hard to install all Roms required to make it work, but once you have this part finished, it is very easy to get things going.
Also if somebody could give a step-by-step install guide (all pdfs I downloaded are not in English), that will really help out.
The post above gives you all the directions (except for creating the blackberry.net connection, which is not necessary).
Sorry for the lenghty (and completely out of time) post, but I would like to share this with you.
Also, I would like to say that I was not very impressed with the way things eventually got working. first thing I noticed was that the reconciliation with the server was not complete. For instance, read messages did not display as such at my server, only at the device. In addition, the BB service uses lots of storage and memory.
In the end, I prefered my Qtek 2.22 rom (much faster to load) and much better loking style. Because of all this, I have just reverted to Qtek's rom and decided to go with email redirection to an external exchange sp2 account. Although we have that in the office, they have high security standards (but forgot to prevent email redirections).
Rafael K
BB Connect on WM6
Blackberry is running smoothly in Universal with WM6 Rom all thanks to c0rnholio. He figured out a way to change the string that will work through decoding>changing>encoding and flashing and finally a small aku registry change.
I was wondering if same thing can be done with wizard.
Here is how-to from c0rnholio
I managed quite easy to get BB Connect running (for company email via BES).
I had the 2.24 (Mr Clean) OS ROM, 2.24 Bootloaders and 2.25.11 Congular Radio. I knew that would not support BB.
I took the OS and ExtROM from the QTek 2.17 package, changed the pagepool to 8MB (BB was said to be a memory consumer), repacked them to a new nk.nbf (with only OS and ExtROM), upgraded, installed BB Connect 2.1.2.31 (downloaded from the Vodafone.de website) and voila!
By just following the Blackberry Connect tutorial (also downloaded from vodafone.de) I had it going.
Good to know:
-I did this exercise after I received my Blackberry device from my employer (I was happy with the functionality, not with the device). So I was sure that the BB functionality was Ok for my company email account.
-When I generated the key for my PDA PIN the Blackberry device was no longer functional (I can think of reasons why).
-I did not have to use the SIM I have in the Blackberry device, in my PDA I am still using my Voice SIM (which also has a data plan)
Hi
I'm also working on getting BBconnect to work with the newer roms. I managed to get it to work with the latest Tmobile rom 2.26. But Crossbow still no luck.
I looked at the solution for changing the strings, but unfortunatly the strings mentioned are not in the crossbow rom...so can't change them (I guess they're different?).
I have contacted Faria; he seems to have a way to tweak the system so that it will work. He's currently on holiday but as soon as I have some info I'll post it here.
Did you try to get it to work on the latest aku3.3 rom?
now works
I've got it now working on all roms...including Crossbow. There is a detailled explanation in the developing forum that shows how to change the rom for BBconnect to work.
Is there an easy way to do this?
I am not a complete newbie, but I am certainly no expert in hex editing, so I was wondering if there is an wasy way to make it work on other Wizard ROMs, including the Brazilian provider I am hooked with.
Currently I am using Tmo's ROM, but there are a lot of features in this ROM I do not use and that take lots of space...
Thanks
Hacking isnt that difficult, it's just that you need to understand how it works.
The thread in Development & Hacking says it all.
I think (just have to dare to flash the hacked os now!) I managed to hack the official AKU3.3 WWE ROM.

U1000 Supports Push Mail Confusion!

Sorry guys, I have never used Push Mail before, but I have been reading about them and apparently getting myself more confused. I know that it's a way of getting your email constantly from a server so you don't have to keep pressing send/receive button(Pull).
Does Dopod 900 support Push Mail as well? How about XDA IIs? I looked at all the activesync, and they all looked the same to me. All of them support Exchange servers. How could I differentiate whether a PDA support Push Mail? Is it hardware base? or it's purely Software? What is it to look for in a PDA whether a system supports Push Mail?
Thanks in advance guys
Whether a PDa supports push mail depends on the version of WM5 it has. As I understand it, the version of WM5 has to include the MS AKU 2. That enabled push mail, provided that your email server supports it - it needed Exchange Server 2k3 and SP2. Note that there are some publicly available push email servers
apd said:
Whether a PDa supports push mail depends on the version of WM5 it has. As I understand it, the version of WM5 has to include the MS AKU 2. That enabled push mail, provided that your email server supports it - it needed Exchange Server 2k3 and SP2. Note that there are some publicly available push email servers
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How does it relate to Blackberry Client?
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How does it relate to Blackberry Client?
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Blackberry is completely separate and is also supported (as I understand it) on the Advantage - it is supplied with the Ameo
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Blackberry is completely separate and is also supported (as I understand it) on the Advantage - it is supplied with the Ameo
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Ok This push technology or BlackBerry, does it mean that your U1000 GPRS must be turned on continously?
I was also wondering whether as a personal user without corporate resources I could have this. I just simply configure my pocket PC the old ways. I'm using a telephone company's free email account that was with me for many years.
Then, to my surprise, the microsoft voice command started speaking to me that I have mail coming in while the unit was left alone. I no longer need to get in to press the send/receive button in order to get my mail. It just comes to be automatically - no tehcnial complexity to think about.
There are some free push email services around - google them.
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Whether a PDa supports push mail depends on the version of WM5 it has. As I understand it, the version of WM5 has to include the MS AKU 2. That enabled push mail, provided that your email server supports it - it needed Exchange Server 2k3 and SP2. Note that there are some publicly available push email servers
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Hope i am not hijacking this thread but after searching the Forums without success... can anyone please help on why i cannot receive yahoomail on my Ameo running WM5? when i click "send / recieve" i get the following in the status bar
1. connecting
2. logging on
3. recieving headers.
then an error message " Messages cannot be downloaded to your moile device, check your connection settings " and a second message " message cannot be sent, check server settings and try again"
thing is the same settings work on both my Universal running WM5 and TYTN II running WM 6.
thanks...
Well, I finally bought Blackberry Curve 8320 for my push email purposes. And it's great. I only need to pay $20/month fee with unlimited data for send and receive email as well as Browsing internet using APN Blackberry.
Now the question is can I do the same with Blackberry Connect? Or blackberry connect only supports the email but not the browsing capability?
Anyone actually notices the difference between Blackberry Connect and Blackberry Curve 8320?
Thanks in advance,

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