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I love the 8125 with the exception of two features, both involving the keyboard.
1. Is there anyway to increase the time that the keyboard backlight stays on? And also, to turn the keyboard backlight on as soon as you open it?
Whenever I slide the keyboard out it's a little difficult to see what's on all the keys, as the characters are a light color and they are on a light-colored background. After you start typing the backlight comes on, but you need to tap one key to get it to light up in the first place. Is there a tweak to have the keyboard light come on when you slide it out? Without having to tap a key? And once it's on, can I edit a setting or reg key to have it stay on until I slide it back in?
2. If you'll notice, the first letter typed will always capitalize as soon as you tap the spacebar after completing the first typed word. This can be nice at times if you're typing in a Word document or something similar. However, typing passwords has become downright frustrating! You definitely do NOT want any letters capitalized when you're typing in a password. Plus the fact that all passwords show only as asterisks when typing them makes the auto-capitalizion hurt more than help. I always have to switch to the SIP when typing in passwords, as I get way too many "incorrect password" popups due, I'm certain, to the capitalization issue. Then, of course, changing to number mode (double-tap the round red dot key)can also be hairy when all you see are asterisks - It's difficult to know whether or not the mode changed when you try to reverse the numbers mode.
I've searched here and on the HoFo site to no avail.
Any help or advice is appreciated!
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
and auto-capitalization can be changed by going to the Input control panel applet, it's on the Options tab "Capitalize beginning of sentence" or somesuch
As for keyboard backlight - no hacks known of for the Wizard :|
BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key.
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Thanks for that - obvious when you know how!
Thanks for the keyboard indicators - very helpful.
Zeboxx, I already set that option, but it appears to only apply to the SIP - not the physical keyboard.
BoycottValvoline said:
In Altissimus said:
In addition to the above, I'd like to know how to accept an autocompletion suggestion from the keyboard, i.e. without using the stylus.
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Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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Great tips, BoycottValvoline! Indicator is working fine. That's a big help.
I don't know of anyone who has managed to come up with a way to extend the keyboard backlight, though.I can't find a registry key that addresses the backlight - doesn't appear to be one.
Keyboard Indicator problem
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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I've done this on my 8125 and I get no indicator when I use the hardware keyboard.
Any help, anyone?
Thanks.
I have an 8125 and it worked fine for me.
Take another look and make sure that you entered everything exactly as shown. You'd be surprised how easy it is to be off.
For example, check Start>Settings>Personal>Input>Word Completion and make sure that "Add a space after suggested word" is NOT selected. (If it is, you may be adding a space after the DWORD value without knowing it).
Plus check your spelling - Case and punctuation must be perfect when creating the registry key.
Finally, perform a soft reset afterwards. Now check the bottom of the screen when the hardware keyboard is slid out. (Make sure first that you have a program open that requires the keyboard.) Try hitting the shift key once, then twice. Same with the Function key. Once, then twice.
Once on, the Shift key shows a "C" and makes shift active for one keystroke. Double tap it and CAPS mode is on and the "C" stays there till you tap it twice again.
Function key works the same, but you'll see a solid dot instead of a "C".
Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?
driven01 said:
Has anyone resolved the problem with making the backlight time stay on longer?
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I haven't tried it, but I found this registry key on another site:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\QKeyLedTimeout
It should be the number of seconds to stay on. Try 30.
Nah, that's on a few sites - but it doesn't work on the Wizard.
It's a hardware issue; no registry fix can do it on the Wizard.
total commander onto 8125?
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
BoycottValvoline said:
Hit arrow key down and then the enter key. As for part two of J-Mac's post, if you're in a program that has a soft key bar at the bottom this simple registry edit will give a hand Caps/Function indicator:
Keyboard status indicator – adds a handy indicator that shows you when caps lock and symbol lock are activated on your keyboard.
Use Total Commander to navigate to \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keyb
Create a new entry with the name EnableIndicator
Assign the new entry a DWORD value of 1
perform a soft reset
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denbobp said:
cna the total cpmmander be downloaded onto 8125? says it is not a pocket pc program when I tried
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If it's an .exe file, you have to install from your desktop through Active Sync. If it's a .cab file, just drag and drop it to your phone the Active Sync's "Explore" option.
Then, navigate to the file on your phone and tap it to begin the installation.
Backlight duration
Sorry to teel you guys , but the keypad backlight duration on the wizard is hardware controlled ! ! ! So no software / registry hack will lengthen / shorten the duration !
I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.
Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.
Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.
Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?
Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?
ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications
Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello
muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.
Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?
any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this
I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it
it also shows up at times when you are entering a password
Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...
Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt
iv got version 3.5 aswel, iv had no problems with it
the only problem i have is that, in landscape mode the key sizes dont increase, it appears small, but never the less a great keyboard
Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.
gt112 said:
Hi xdaman85
Try running Remote Desktop and see if the keyboard behaves there, thats where it dies on me.
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just tried that, no problem what so ever
try this
uninstall, soft reset, install, soft reset, then go to settings, inputs, choose touchpal as default keyboard, then press ok, then soft reset
i know thats long but it should do the trick, seems to me as if that it wasnt installed correctly and theres some errors, so try what i said and let me know if it works
OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.
gt112 said:
OK guys, it seems I am not alone in having prolems with TouchPal on the HD. See this thread on CoolTek's forum.
http://www.cootek.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742&PN=1
I have tried everything, I have uninstalled the kb, reinstalled it. Last night I completely reinstalled the entire phone (hard reset, wipe, reistall) but TouchPal still stops working after a while.
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just the thread, i guess your right, your not alone...but..its still wierd as iv been using touchpal since last wednesday and its still working fine for me
could it be that touchpal is conflicting with another keyboard on the device?
Have you gone to settings/inputs and selected touchpal as the keyboard?
I cant think of any other ideas because its working perfectly for me
Thanks xdaman
Just done a new re-install and it seems ok now. TBH I am now using the version from Cooltek so I may have had myself to blame.
On another note, I am having probs setting custom commands, I have the followig questions, can anyone offer any wisdom ?
You can setup custom commands such as Ctrl+z etc. They can be stored in place holders accessed by tab+downslide on the Control Tab button (the one with the 4 arrows). The instructions for creating custom command scan be found in the manual (section 4.2) here
Here are my questions
1. How do you create a combination command? e.g. They have a built in command called "Select All && Copy". This is 2 commands. How do you create this ?
2. After I mess up all my command buttons. How do I reset them to their defaults ?
3. When I create a command, Is Flag5 the ASCII key code? The manual is not specific on this. Also, if Flag5 is the ASCII code, why do I need to then enter the Alphabet index of the letter ?
4. I only seem to be able to edit the top Custom command button. If I try and assign values to the lower buttons, the edit appears in the top button. Is this a bug ?
cant install/wont install
downloaded the cab file..after it ran..it looks like explorer window pops up and tried to o something..anyway it says the page cant be found..tried loading in both card and local and get the same response..it does tell me the it was unsuccessful in loading
i gues its the lastest becuase i downloaded from the site
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Hi folks
I love this forum and am so glad its here, it seems to be the only place where ppl can get support for the HD right now.
I am using the TouchPal keyboard 3.5. It installed fine and I started using it and configuring it grand etc. But after a while it stops responding.
If I click on the small keyoard icon at the bottom of my screen, no keyboard pops up whatsoever. If I go to settings and change the default keyboard from TouchPal to say - Full Querty and press OK, the change does not take place (If I go back into settings, the keyboard is reset to TouchPal).
So I am left wthout a keyboard and I have to do a full restart of the phone. If I uninstall TouchPal all is well and the keyboard system reverts back to working normally.
Has anyone else expereinced similar ?
Many thanks for any help
gt
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Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?
you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"
I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart
@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"
thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?
anyone knows this?
SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.
Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.
When I want to use the keyboard and have the Full QUERTY keyboard selected, it's in numeric mode. When I tap ABC to get to the alfanumeric mode nothing happens. What is the solution?
Axum
Did you try tapping on the right side of the keyboard button so you can choose which keyboard you want to use?
Right hand side there is a abc button, is it not there?
yes, I tried that, both full or compact QWERTY is not working when I select them and then tap ABC. When I select the standard Windows Mobile keyboard, then I get a Qwerty keyboard that I can use.
I had this problem earlier on the same phone (but I did a hard reset then) and now the problem is back.
The problem started when I selected 123 for the first time in the Full Qwerty mode.
Axum
Anything installed before the problems started?
I've had this problem before as well. Do you have any other SIP's installed?
I have the same problem, except mine also does it with the
123
456
789
Caps0Symbol
keyboard. Yes, a horrid explanation, but I have no clue what the English word for it is, since I'm running Danish OS.
go here for a few fixes
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=617541
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=507768
same happened to me today, and it came back after doing the regedit fix
i found that the change to T9 mode in advance config or HDtweak was what was causing it to come back
have now disabled all the T9 options throughout and seems to have stayed put
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
CorruptedSanity said:
How do I completely remove t9 from full qwerty? I dont even want to see the little bar that appears when I begin to type.
Thanks
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Go to touch input settings and uncheck everything.
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
CorruptedSanity said:
I did, I no longer get suggestions but the knob or switch is on T9 by default when I begin to type and I get the bar above that duplicates whats being typed (in an sms for example).
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Hmm strange sorry man I got nothin. Maybe disable supportmssip in hklm/software/tegic/et9 ?
Ok I noticed that its on ABC not t9 when I attempt to enter text on tasks for note for example, but text entry in sms is set to t9 by default. Weird, shoulndt it be consistent between applications.