Where to Install an Application : ROM or Memory ? - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i Software Upgrading

Hi Pug,
thanx for your all post and help. I want to know that, Do I need to install an application in ROM, becuase As far as I know If I install app in Memory then it will be lost if my device run out of Battery/Backup Battery, Correct me If am wrong.
Q1. So my query is, If above is true then can I install an app in ROM if so then how, please suggest me complete steps, becuase I know on my O2 XDA IIi (WM2003 SE) there must be free sapce in ROM. Also let me know If I can know how much free space left on ROM/ExtROM.
Q2. Is is true that an application installed in Storage, will also preserve when battery run out from device ?
Waiting for you response.
Arun

The backup battery support all the storage memories. If ever the backup batteries run dry, everything will be wiped out regardless of where you store it, with exception of a storage card (",)

Not really. If the files are placed in internal storage (flash) folder, they will remain even after hard reset. The problem is that many apps need registry entries to run properly and after a hard reset registry returns to factory state.

sorry for the misleading error

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Extended_ROM

Hi all,
Need your advice. I just found that under the below memory i have an additional storage (Named Extended_ROM), it is 15.97MB & used 15.18MB, free only 0.79MB. Do you have any idea what is the storage for? Can I remove & free some memory? Thanks
I am currently on ROM 2.06. When i check with my pals, who is still at ROM 1.66, they do not have this additional Storage.
Start/Setting/System/Memory/Storage Card
I have 3 options
a. Storage Card (my 256MB SD card)
b. Extended_ROM (Dont know what this is)
c. Storage (Should be XDAII memory)
Rgds
This part of ROM (Read Only) is allocted for extra (region or operator) related bundle that is customizable to owners liking 8)
It is untouchable except that it is customizable :!:
You can add and remove from and to it just like your typical folders...for instance, the camera, album, operator based codes and other stuff are among the Ext_ROM
Hi
Ext_rom is the most important place when a Hard Reset (format) happen.
The Ext_rom has all the programs that is installed when a Hard Reset happen. So, if you delete it, you will not be back to normal when you do a Hard reset.
Usually the Ext_rom is hiddn so no body touch it.
In case you want your Ext_rom to have some special program that will be loaded every time you do a format, you need to add the programs in the Ext_rom.
Look carfully in the Ext_rom and you will find a file called "config.txt".
You can open and read the config.txt file.
In this file you will see a list of commands in some order.
These comands are the programs that will be loaded or installed each time you have to do a format (Hard Reset)
I hope this give you some information.
Hi all,
Thanks for your kind reply. It give me a better understanding of what this is.
Is there anyway i can make it disappear or so called hidden it & not show under my memory storage? As mentioned, My extended Rom is shown whereas my frens XDA II & XDA IIs doesnt, both on original rom.
Rgds

Whats the best way to upgrade to WM6?

hi there.
Ive a 2 gig sd card and loads of stuff stored all over the place. if i download Windows Mobile 6, whats the best way to migrate everything? will the unit upgrade link win2k does to XP ?
Mark
No. Rom upgrades wipe the device clean. You will lose all files and programs on the device. Files stored on a memory card will still be there but any programs installed to a card may not function after the upgrade.
yup. And usually you need to perform a hard reset before your upgrade process. So, don't forget to backup all your important stuff.
Also, you might not want to restore your files from a wm5 back-up. I tried it and nothing worked correctly. Had to load each program and tweak from scratch so make note of any serial numbers you may have for your programs.

Unable to start camera not enough storage in available to complete this operation

I started this new thread as the previous one on the same topic did not give any satifactory answers to this problem
I also the Windows mobile 6 upgrade to my HTC 8525. I did a restore of my previous data with sprite software. All went very well until I tried to use the camera.
I got "Unable to start camera. Not enough storage is available to complete this operation."
I have plenty of space in storage. The camera just refuses to work.
Searching the forums, I have only found one thread who has gotten this error message. I followed all the possible permotations to fix this. I tried to do a hard and soft reset and cleared my memory (both storage and program). Uninstalled several programs. I have a 2GB micro SD card with over 500MB of free storage on the phone. The camera still refuses to work.
What should I do next?
try removing the sd card then soft reset the device and when it has completed restarting windows insert the sd card and it should ask if you want to store images on there instead of main storage.
same deal
I did try that. It did not prompt me for anything after I reinserted my SD card. Any other suggestions.
Thanks
R.
r3001n said:
I did try that. It did not prompt me for anything after I reinserted my SD card. Any other suggestions.
Thanks
R.
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ive had this same problem for a while now and have resorted to using coolcamera.. my guess is that it has something to do with the backup. the problem on my end dosent come up until i restore a backup from spbbackup... so note what programs you have, hard reset, and start fresh...
the camera will be working.
This is because not enough ram is available, simply close any apps running in the backround and try again.hopefully u can end programs with X-Button. some of the "cooked" roms have way too many services running at boot and it almost impossible to make enough ram available.
fixed problem
Ifigured out this was a problem with the sprite backup software. For some reason when you back up some older programs with sprite and then do a system restore after having changed from WM5 to WM6, you loose the camera function. I fixed the problem by reseting my device to original manufacturers settings and then reinstalling the programs one by one without using sprite backup software. It was very time consuming ad I had to retrieve my saved data files and contacts before resetting the device. But my camera works fine now!
it happened to me some days ago aftyer restoring backup
a clean solution:
look for the camera oem package of pandora, look for the recistry settings in the .rgu file, translate it to a regedit4 compatible .reg file, execute it, and problem solved. it is a problem registry related. hope this helps

Problem with Device Memory (Lack Of) on HD2

I have a very puzzling problem. When I first got the HD2 I installed a few cabs directly to the device. Due to this the device memory very rapidly became used up, which resulted in me having to delete some stuff and re-install to the 2GB SD card. Following this, I think I had about 25mb of free Device Storage on the phone. I now only install cabs etc direct to SD card, today I have roughly 1.4GB of free space on the card.
Imagine my dismay, therefore, when today, having installed 4 or 5 cabs, one being somewhere in the region of 44mb, I'm now completely out of device memory, even though I've installed directly to SD card. My device memory is now showing 0.00mb and I'm constantly getting the annoying 'low storage space' messages.
Any help would be much appreciated.
edit: The 44 mb cab I mentioned has not been installed to phone as apparently it won't let me due to lack of device memory, even tho I'm trying to install to SD card???
Also, when I go into Remove Program setting, all the cabs etc which I've installed from day 1 are listed there, no mystery there! Thing I don't understand is that they are all listed as being installed to phone internal memory. Even though when installed I specifically selected Storage Card and NOT device memory.
What's going on??
Anyone got any info on this please?
Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
Bravoexo said:
Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
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Thx for reply.
Yes, and the files which I installed today, and now deleted, were in the program files on the SD Card, but it still impacted on device memory. I've now deleted the files I put on today but device memory is only indicating just over 3mb available. Prior to today I'm sure I had about 25mb free. Don't understand it??
ephestione said:
I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
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Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
RoN_HD2 said:
Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
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My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
ephestione said:
My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
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I'm on the stock UK o2 ROM 1.43 which is garbage. Still waiting for o2 to release an update My phone prior to this was the Samsung i900 Omnia which, once upon a time, I attempted to flash with the help and advice of some MoDaCo forum users. Basically I screwed up and had to send the phone to a Samsung Repair Centre. My point is I'm not totally clued up re: flashing/updating ROMs etc. However, I do realise at some point I'm gonna need to get my head screwed on and give it another try. If only to keep the phone up to date etc.

Please help-always my internal storage becoming full

please can anyone help me.2 day it happned for the 1st time.then i did a system reset.but againg it keep saying memory full delete some unnessocery data.then i did a system reset again.but the situation is same.then i remove default wall papers and songs.then i got a free space of 7.2mb.it was only 5 miniutes.it keep saying memory full againg.then i cheked the status of ma storage .used 54mb.availble 0mb.what can i do now.please help
no need ot start 2 threds about the same subject
Hard Reset
1. download MemMaid (trial version works for 15 days), and use two functions: 'Clean' to delete unnecessary files, 'Storage Usage' to check what's eating your memory
2. do some searching here on xda on how to move IE and Opera cache to Storage Card
you are probably on Rom 3.14 and still have HSPL on it , remove HSPL and it should be fine.
after that if you still want HSPL then use HSPL3
Did I miss something? WTF how are you all giving him advice without knowing basic info? Its bad idea trying to help people without knowing what they run in first place.
To OP:
Which platform, rom?
Which HD2-US/HD2-EU?
If you are using WM then you can use ClearTemp app. Also you might want to get some more memory extended rom in that case if your default available memory is that low. Also try manually changing your cache folder for browser and other apps to /sdcard. So they don't take space on your internal memory.

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