I have a very puzzling problem. When I first got the HD2 I installed a few cabs directly to the device. Due to this the device memory very rapidly became used up, which resulted in me having to delete some stuff and re-install to the 2GB SD card. Following this, I think I had about 25mb of free Device Storage on the phone. I now only install cabs etc direct to SD card, today I have roughly 1.4GB of free space on the card.
Imagine my dismay, therefore, when today, having installed 4 or 5 cabs, one being somewhere in the region of 44mb, I'm now completely out of device memory, even though I've installed directly to SD card. My device memory is now showing 0.00mb and I'm constantly getting the annoying 'low storage space' messages.
Any help would be much appreciated.
edit: The 44 mb cab I mentioned has not been installed to phone as apparently it won't let me due to lack of device memory, even tho I'm trying to install to SD card???
Also, when I go into Remove Program setting, all the cabs etc which I've installed from day 1 are listed there, no mystery there! Thing I don't understand is that they are all listed as being installed to phone internal memory. Even though when installed I specifically selected Storage Card and NOT device memory.
What's going on??
Anyone got any info on this please?
Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
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Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
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Thx for reply.
Yes, and the files which I installed today, and now deleted, were in the program files on the SD Card, but it still impacted on device memory. I've now deleted the files I put on today but device memory is only indicating just over 3mb available. Prior to today I'm sure I had about 25mb free. Don't understand it??
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I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
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Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
RoN_HD2 said:
Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
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My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
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My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
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I'm on the stock UK o2 ROM 1.43 which is garbage. Still waiting for o2 to release an update My phone prior to this was the Samsung i900 Omnia which, once upon a time, I attempted to flash with the help and advice of some MoDaCo forum users. Basically I screwed up and had to send the phone to a Samsung Repair Centre. My point is I'm not totally clued up re: flashing/updating ROMs etc. However, I do realise at some point I'm gonna need to get my head screwed on and give it another try. If only to keep the phone up to date etc.
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Great forum guys...already have had some fun modding my 8525.
I'm a convert, new to WinMo, been a Symbian supporter for 5+ years...so WinMo is new to me.
I have a noobish question. I've been loading ringtones, and .cab files onto my phone and seem to be running low on storage.
1. How do I tell how much space is left on my phone?
2. What files can I delete to make some room for important stuff?
I've searched the forum...but haven't found anything conclusive yet.
Thanks!
xj
I can answer the easy question...
To find how much storage you have go to START\SETTINGS\SYSTEM\MEMORY then select the main/storage card tab.
If you're running out of memory you can try unlocking and unhiding the extended rom which should give give you a few extra MB's. Most of the cooked WM6 roms here include Schap's advanced config which will do this for you (or maybe it can be downloaded as a cab file).
As for deleting files - the only safe ones I know about are my data files, unused programs (via uninstal) or some ringtones or other sounds in the windows or windows\rings directory.
to check your memory go to start>settings>system>memory then on the bottom theres 3 tabs..Main, Storage Card, and Running Programs..
Under Main you have Storage and Program.. Program is your ram and storage is your device memory which you can install apps to. Go to running programs and you really should only have activesyn running (if you have an exchange account that is). Anything else open is eating up your ram and will cause your device to run slow.
Now on the bottom of the memory settings it says Find large files using storage memory. Click on find and you can remove whatever you don't want.. (i don't think it'll pull up system files in the search)
My advice is to only install critical apps and apps that will be running on your today screen onto the device itself.. everything else should be installed to yoru Storage card.
If you don't delete cabs after installing them, move them over to yur storage card if you want them for later reference but they shouldn't be taking up device memory after they're installed.
thanks for the input guys, already helping me out. I look forward to being a contributing member of the forums...I'm gonna check out the wiki and sticky threads in more detail to get all the info I can.
Thanks again
As all us Diamond owners know all too well, we are dealing with a pathetically small amount of main memory. I've got virtually no aftermarket apps installed, and my main storage memory only has about 20MB left.
Two Q's
1. Is it possible to uninstall bundled apps? When I go to "Remove Programs" I only see the apps/cabs that I've installed aftermarket.
2. Is it adviseable/possible to install apps to the internal storage card? I've always been under the impression that programs should go in the "partition" where ...\Windows resides, but that may not be true.
Thanks.
1. yes it is possible if u cook your own rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
2. why not ? (you wore wrong )
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2. Is it adviseable/possible to install apps to the internal storage card? I've always been under the impression that programs should go in the "partition" where ...\Windows resides, but that may not be true.
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Every app I install goes in the Internal Storage because, well, what's the point of having 4GB of memory and not using it? I did the same with my previous XDA IIi; everything went onto the external memory card and it's never caused any problems.
cool, sometimes it's good to be wrong!
no way am I cooking my own ROM though. I would totally find a way to screw that up.
no other way to remove pre-installed apps?
and additionaly why install apps??? I have quite a long time apps folders on my internal storage with shortcuts in windows folder and they WORK so I saved space and as bonus doesnt screw up system with aditional installs after HR...
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and additionaly why install apps??? I have quite a long time apps folders on my internal storage with shortcuts in windows folder and they WORK so I saved space and as bonus doesnt screw up system with aditional installs after HR...
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bingo boingo!
Install apps onto the internal storage and create shortcuts in \windows with total commander. It saves memory space and also headache from reinstalling apps after flashing a new ROM.
Hi first post...new phone.....great product, I love it......to get to the point, I have down loaded a couple of simple apps from the in-house market place, the second one "i spy wifi" wouldnt complete because "quote" ...reqs newer version microsoftR.net compact framework, this wouldnt download because I dont have enough free space, even though there is a 4 gb micro card with loads of room.........how do i get things onto the card storage?.......can I put a 16gb card in place of the 4 ?
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Yes you can use 16gb card, normally when you install an app, it give you the option to install on device memory or Storage Card. I install everything on the the Storage Card and I've got a rude amount of apps installed .
Hi, do watch the cache in the main storage - this can fill up.
And, when you install apps from the Market Place it seems these automatically go to main storage and there is no option to install to storage card.
I'm using a 16 gb card with no problems.
thanks for the reply, not noticed an option offered for phone/card storage...will look for it next time....cheers..........
Just to follow on from this can all cabs and apps be downloaded on the card rather than the device? For instance I have cabs for home page transparencies and max manila, text removal on home page etc. Also cab games, official hot fixes, clocks, market place apps as well. And these are ALL on t he device.
Are there certain apps or items that MUST go on the device or can everything go on the card?
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Just to follow on from this can all cabs and apps be downloaded on the card rather than the device? For instance I have cabs for home page transparencies and max manila, text removal on home page etc. Also cab games, official hot fixes, clocks, market place apps as well. And these are ALL on t he device.
Are there certain apps or items that MUST go on the device or can everything go on the card?
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Anyone?
Pretty much everything can go on the card.
but I cannot seem to move anything onto my card, am I missing something ?
Just use file explorer to move the cabs to your storage card. Once you have installed cab's you can do what you want with them, move or delete them. When installing them it will prompt to install on the device or storage card. Choose storage card.
I always install to the storage card but when you install using Market Place it doesn't give you the option it just installs to the device. Does anyone know if this can be changed or if the cab files is stored somewhere so that you can uninstall from device and install on the card??
As far as I know, isn't possible to choose a different location when installing from Marketplace. However, is possible to move the applications from the phone memory to the SD card. To do that you have to use this app. Although there are some applications that you must install in the phone memory.
Many thanks, I will give it a go. I already have SK Tools do you know if that has a similar feature as I've not quite got to grips with everything it can do?
OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!
Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
Hi,
Instead of using Adoptable Storage, make 2 partitions on your SD, 1 FAT32 for photos,music,documents and another EXT4 for apps data. Use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd , i tested it.
You can make 2 partitions using PC or with TWRP Recovery.
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Hi all, so to start with, as the title says im constantly running out of space on the FN model 2015, so ive dived into the forum looking for help. First thing i tried was the sd card hack to combine my 64gb sdcard with the 8gb internal. Harra! it worked, but then i still run outa space as it dosen't seam to to use the sdcard space as i had hoped. It's like it just copys some of the data from the apps to the SD card like normal but without having to go into the each app and selecting external sdcard. Kinda thought no probs I'll download a custom rom with no samsung apps and with a min gapp giving me as much storage space i could get. I can't see one, starting to think there isnt one. So my question is, is it hard for me to take my backup of my stock rom and strip what I can out bearing in mind I'm a bit of a noob and have to follow instructions from the clever ROM makers? not to bothered about increasing the speed and looks just the space. Would be able nice to update them without having to delete a few and re-install the ones I deleted. Any advice on what coarse to take would be great. Maybe theres a ROM I've mist I could use and give thanks for?
Cheers
Running 6.0.1
Drebbs
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Hey i recommend rooting ur phone then download an app called move to sd card from playstore go to settings and choose download locations then select external sd card . Problem solved
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Thanks for your reply! I went down the apps2SD route in the end. Kinda mest it up a bit but have free'd up nearly 1gb of space so thanks, that's more than enough! %) I ended up partitioning the SDcard and linking all the apps I'm not interested in, excel,Skype,Samsung etc. Anyway what i didn't realise was that i had mest the other part of the partition up. Ended up re-formatting the SDcard in recovery back to normal and those apps I didn't want 90% of the data of those have now been wiped %)