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size and build quality

how do you guy's live with the chunky size of the unit and is the build quality as bad as some reports ?
thank you

i am on my 4th mda
1st: crashed a lot and keyboard not quite set right into the frame - wireless manager button sticks up slightly
2nd: metal top plate offset and scratching my ear
3rd: loud creaky hinge with loud clicks
4th: camera fault - big white dot on photo's
on my 1st exec i have a misaligned keyboard as with mda 1, and minor camera pixel dropouts
i think build quality is pretty awful, and will keep* my exec and get the mda swapped out for a vario or something.
* might take it back and see if I can get a fully functional device from them, after all I paid 99 pounds for it :lol:

I had one MDA Pro and now I have an XDA Exe and both were/are excellent, great quality devices.
About the size - I had all the previous XDAs so I got used to the big phones already. I'm not using any bluetooth headsets, and I always carry it in my jeans back pocket , no problems at all for me.

I am on my first and only Jas Jar - the thing is brilliant- no problems at all. As for size, I always use mine with a BT headset and voice command when making or recieving a call, so no problem there either.

I am on my 3rd Jasjar. First was taken away by my boss. 2nd had an Arabic/English keyboard and did not like it. Now on 3rd unit for over 2 months. All had excellent build quality. No complaints from me whatsoever.
Kind Regards

Mine seems fine so far. Havent noticed any problems and im usually one for spotting things. Was worried about dead pixels but both my wizard and uni are clear as a bell.

i find the entire flimsy plastic body of the MDA Pro to be quite a weak design. I put my first one in my pocket, jumped in the car, drove for an hour, took it out and the phone had been bent in my pocket slightly. No apparent external damage but the screen had a beautiful crack right through the middle.
At one of their shops they accused me of damaging the device myself, but fortunately the insurance paid out, even though I had to pay an excess. I have never had any problems with my XDA2 or my MDA3 and for this to happen within 5 days of actually getting the phone, I am not very confident it will last 18 months.
Furthermore I keep discovering pieces of software are not included - Messenger (which is a shame as always good for long journeys on a train) and most of all - Calculator - I can't believe it, not even the old basic one.

I think you should look once again :wink:
There is a calculator in PROGRAMS
and the MSN Messenger is in POCKET MSN, first position from the top

lloydalikes said:
i find the entire flimsy plastic body of the MDA Pro to be quite a weak design. I put my first one in my pocket, jumped in the car, drove for an hour, took it out and the phone had been bent in my pocket slightly. No apparent external damage but the screen had a beautiful crack right through the middle.
At one of their shops they accused me of damaging the device myself, but fortunately the insurance paid out, even though I had to pay an excess. I have never had any problems with my XDA2 or my MDA3 and for this to happen within 5 days of actually getting the phone, I am not very confident it will last 18 months.
Furthermore I keep discovering pieces of software are not included - Messenger (which is a shame as always good for long journeys on a train) and most of all - Calculator - I can't believe it, not even the old basic one.
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No offense but why would you drive for an hour with an MDA Pro in your pocket. Surely glove box, dashboard, passenger seat or a passenger holding it for you would have been preferable.
To be fair you cant blame the design for that. If youve had it in your pocket and obviously bent it in some way, then the screen being damaged isnt beyond reason.
Its no good buying one of these devices and then expecting it to fit in a shirt pocket like it isnt there. Its a big phone, end of !
As ive said before, the design seems ok to me and its everything I have expected it to be so far. Maybe in months to come I might find one or two shortcomings but not so far.

Maybe my opinion will sound odd to most of you, but I really find Wizard much more "bulky" looking than the Universal. This thing is so thick!!! Even if overall in size the Universal is bigger, it's got excellent proportions and it just "looks the bollocks!!" as my friend said :wink: Of course I'm talking about the XDA Exec which for me looks way better than M5000 or MDA Pro...

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Of course I'm talking about the XDA Exec which for me looks way better than M5000 or MDA Pro...
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Totally agree with that comment! Just swapped from an MDA Pro to an XDA Exec and it actually seems smaller. I guess what they say about black being more slimming is true

rottie said:
Maybe my opinion will sound odd to most of you, but I really find Wizard much more "bulky" looking than the Universal. This thing is so thick!!! Even if overall in size the Universal is bigger, it's got excellent proportions and it just "looks the bollocks!!" as my friend said :wink: Of course I'm talking about the XDA Exec which for me looks way better than M5000 or MDA Pro...
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Couldn't agree more, I think the Wizard looks FAR bulkier, yet because it's a bit smaller and traditionally-XDA style, people say THAT's the smaller of that and the Exec.
The Wizard is a good phone, admittedly. However, a lot of excess plastic if you ask me.
And black is the ONLY colour for the Universal! hehe
Ant

I have the Universal and the wife has the Wizard, I am costantly amazed at what both devices are capable of. When using my Universal in the car it sits on the dash with the four rubber feet, screen open and on display, works and looks fantastic. I love the larger screen on the Universal and also like the 3g support. As for size I prefer the Wizard, It just feels more comfy to hold and use like a phone, I still feel weird holding the Universal to my ear, I don't use a BT headset yet, keep trying to find a surgery that can give me a bluetooth implant behind my ear :shock: I actually find myself using the keyboard on my Universal less and less now, and opting to leave it screen out and use the onscreen keyboard. The twist is nice but I am sure its is already getting slack. I guess my ideal device would be a hybrid of the two, wishfull thinking and totally over the top but, same size as the wizard, same screen as the universal and with 3g but the screen, imagine opening a wizard with the base being thicker than the screen and as you slide it open the screen tilts up and can rotate so its perpendicular to the keyboard so it looks like the universal, keep going and it ends up facing the keyboard and would close back down screen facing in, no need to twist the screen about a single swivel anymore.
I may even knock up a short avi so you can see it in action.
Regards

I am on the whole , pretty happy with my Exec
The only thing that bothers me is that it seems (only very slightly) slower than my old Magician !
I have had to learn how to answer calls on it (i.e if it rings while it is closed then LEAVE IT CLOSED TO ANSWER IT ! ) Which leads me to my only real gripe - No way of seeing who is calling with the clamshell closed
As for the size thing - anyone who buys one of these knows exactly what they are buying into - I personally have no problem with big phones wouldn't want the Exec any smaller

I've probably said it too many times... I love my phone! in spite and despite of...
When you love something that much, you get to love every bit of it.. bulky size and all. I still look sheepish when answering a call with a brick in my ear but I glow when all my officemates jot their notes on a paper while I just type it on my dopod900.
I still go berserk when the ringtone suddenly changes to another despite my change in the registry but I think I can live with going to settings and all..
So there, Im gonna borrow McDonald's slogan and say "Im Lovin' It!"

I do not see any problem with the size and build of the Uni.
I have the first XDA for 3 years or so, and now I use both the Uni and the XDA. Because I have been using the XDA so long, I do not have any problem with the Uni. They are both relatively about the same size and weight and same usage. Nobody laughes at me when I hold the big phone next to my ear, because I have done that for years with my XDA.
I laugh at myself when I noticed how funny its when having a bug (BT headset) in my ear now.
Overall I really like the Uni though it still cannot replace my XDA fully in certain environment where I do not want to take the risk of having the Uni handles the job. But in office and home, Uni is perfect.
Software wise, when the XDA came out, the software loaded were really buggy, it took years before finally everything became really stable, so with that matter of fact, I could accept Uni at its right now with hope it will be close to 100% perfect in the near future.

jasjar with no build or quality problems, and I love everything except the name. (I'm still planning to get around to using that sugar cube.)

I'm pretty impressed by the overal feel of my Qtek. The plastic feels very strong, it doesn't look or feel like a cheap plactic box. The rotating hinge works flawlessly, but when I put my screen in laptop modus, there is a very minimal play. But I guess this is normal? Can anyone confirm!?

More Quality HTC engineering

High Tech Crap have once again surpassed themselves with the Wizard.
My stylus is held in by sticky tape and the paint flakes off, however even worse my good friend Alex's died a few days ago of its own accord. He thought maybe it had just run out of batteries so he plugged the charger in and within seconds it got so hot that it burned him and melted all the internal stickers off. god knows what would have happened if he'd left it.
Just a warning. Sounds like a lawsuit to me

Your issues seem atypical--I've been reading through this forum for a few months now and haven't come across a single one where somebody said their Wizard blew up/melted/what have you. Sorry you're having problems, but isn't that what a warranty is for?

Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.

I disagree with your assessment. See here.

Well when your house burns down, don't say I didn't warn you
Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.
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They should do. You'd think for the price these things would be built to the highest standard. They MUST know these things are issues when they start producing these. Either that or they did NO product testing. I don't understand how it passes EC quality control.
If you bought a car and the paint fell off you'd expect it sorting out. I bet the paint won't flake off the Sony Ericssion p990.
If each of us here wrote to HTC/Trading Standards/our service providers we could get a brand new handset each.
In fact, if I start a petition on here that just requires name and email address, and sent it to HTC, threatening to send it to trading standards, how many people do you think would sign it if it meant a free device for each of us?
Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.

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Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.
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I am really sorry to hear about your issues. However, you must understand that the K-JAM is nowhere near the Casio E-200 as far as quality is concerned. I went through 3 E-200's and the product line was so bad, Casio eventually pulled it off the market and not soon later exited the PPC market altogether.
I am on many forums and have heard relatively few complaint other than the standard stylus-loose issue and maybe just a complaint here and there that the paint on the blue "E" for internet explorer came off. Considering that the Wizard comes from Imate, T-Mobile, 02, DoPod, etc it seems relatively few people have the same issues as you mention. Personally, I beleive either you treat your device harshly or you got one from a bad production batch. I have had my K-JAM for 8 months already, and aside from the stylus being loose nothing else is wrong with the device.
If you are that dissapointed, get on the phone with support and demand that you want a replacement unit. Tell them exactly what you complained about here that you didn't expect such an expensive device to peel and chip. See how that goes.

Please read properly.
My device is fine. I was talking about my friend's device. I assure you, I take excellent care of mine.
My point was that there should be safety mechanisms to prevent things getting so hot to the point that they melt and pose a fire risk, no matter how badly you treat it (which he didn't).
The only faults on mine are the loose stylus and the flaky paint -both known problems. My point is that for £400 you shouldn't have to put up with either. I mean, if you buy a cheap, low quality phone for £20 I bet the paint wouldn't flake off, so why do HTC who charge so extortionally for what should be quality products be forgiven for cutting corners and selling shoddy hardware?
Also, it's only because of the gurus on here like Vijay and Buzz that our devices work at all. We shouldn't have to rely on these guys working volentarily to try and patch up the bugs left in by HTC/Microsoft. It's not even like the odd bug; EVERY SINGLE ROM is full of serious errors that HTC know are there and affect even basic functions. I am grateful to buzz/vijay, but it sholdn't be their job to do it. They don't get paid to do it. For the price we pay, you should expect maybe the odd bug, but not some of the ridiculous and obvious errors that HTC sell these devices knowing about (talking more about the BlueAngel/Universal really, but alot of people report Wizard bugs too)
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
I think if just a few hundered of us petitioned, threatening to involve trading standards, it might just give HTC a kick up the arse, show them that we won't just put up with this stuff because they can't be bothered fixing it and get them to put a little more effort into ensuring the hardware and software quality of their next device.
Viva la revolution

Sleuth255 said:
I disagree with your assessment. See here.
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That maybe so but it doesnt change the fact that the paint flakes off.
What would the conversation to support go like ?
Consumer " Hi I bought a device from you and the paint is flaking off. "
Support " Yes but the device will survive should it be dropped in water "
Consumer " Really ? "
Support " Yes. "
Consumer " I didnt realise. Sorry to have troubled you. "
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right.... I guess I deserved that....
I'm actually wondering if HTC actually makes all the various cases for these devices. Or, do they sell the basic insides as an OEM provider and the end seller provides the rest. This wouldn't apply to Qtek devices of course as these probably would be completely produced by HTC.
Case in point: I'm not aware of paint peeling or loose stylus issues on the 8125. Perhaps somebody can correct me here.

now this is funny!!! I have not had any problems with the phone yet. But i would sign if anyone started it. I will stand by my boys in arms hehehehe
but i do think there is a diffrence between a car and phone, that the phone takes alot from being in a pocket or something ( how about we all put car paint on our phones) and a car is made to withstand rain and so fore. But i do think that it should be abit better for the price.

mike freegan said:
Please read properly.
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
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I seem to remember the old Citroen BX's cost a lot of money in their day and the paint flaked off... people still bought them though.... and they still worked... not to mention the fact the wheel could fall off and it would work too :lol:
seriously though. i agree that the paint flaking is a bit of an issue, and the stylus not seating properly is poor design. I do think however that fighting via a petition for them to replace our devices with equally as faulty devices is a waste of time. Example for this is my friend and I both have owend smart roadsters. they both slightly leaked as with nearly all cabriolets, but he moaned and demanded they fix it (i didnt!)... it went in for the supposed leak fix and came back worse than before and he had to reject the car (upsetting himself at the same time because he really loved that car for what it was). I just dont quite see why i would want to cut my own nose to spite my face right now

Cry me a river, this is what is known as the bleeding edge.
Look what you are holding in your hand, its a miniature PC with bluetooth, wifi, a phone with gprs/edge, a PDA with a full keyboard. This is an incredibly elegant device. Yes my stylus falls out but when I took it apart I was totaly impressed by the elegance of the design, flawed maybe but not the china crap I've seen. Also understand how the supply chain works. HTC contracts out with flex or foxcon or whomever which actually manufacture these, most all electronic mfg do this. So as a mfg you are dependent on the quality of your sub, yes you can and do police them but with a mobile workforce you are going to get quality issues. It's just the way the world works and as was said, that's what the warrenty is for unless of course you flashed a new rom or opened the case and voided it, then tough luck.

Well, I would agree with thompsd. I mean, HP and others have phones that work much stable, better and the paint doesn't flake off. So, why don't you just go ahead and buy yourself an HP Phone? I'm not sure about your reason, but I just can't affort an HP, and I don't really like the bulky HP (though their recent device looks promising, not sure about the price).
Hey, consider the HTC company is like.. how old? Oh man, give them some slack. I think they are pretty good in putting in so many things into such a small unit and if they aren't that good with their paint job, so be it. However, having said that, I'm still expecting them to be getting much better soon, inside out. Go ahead with your petition thing and good luck.
BTW, how does the 'easily scratched' iPod case ended?
Anyway, as for the fire thing, it is not an HTC issue only. The invincible Apple had laptop camp fire here and the mighty Dell had their contribution on the conference.
My advise is, don't leave any electronic stuff left unattented.

@ JNGold
First of all sorry for deviating from the true subject of this thread.
I am glad that you are happy with the build quality of your wizard. Since you have been using your device for 8 months I would like to know if the keyboard sliding mechanism is showing any signs of wear / looseness. I am interested in this because previously I owned the i-mate pda2k (HTC magician) and over few months of use the keyboard became quite loose to the point that it would slide open by its own weight if held vertically.
I am now considering going for the HTC TyTn once this is out. My only apprehension is the quality of the slide mechanism and your comments would be really helpful.
Thanks and Regards

Why do you repeat buy HTC if you're having such issues with their devices?

My point is, if HTC can do such an excellent job (and it is excellent) of getting so much technology into such a small space, and charge so much for their devices, why not just spend the extra 5 minutes to make sure the paint doesn't flake off? I don't understand why they think they can sell something which is faulty.
It's a device designed to be mobile and carried in a pocket (hence pocket pc/windows mobile). For £400 you are entitled to expect that the paint will be to a reasonable quality like EVERY other phone on the market.
I have just noticed that every HTC device has a whole host of small flaws that could be avoided so easily and at no extra cost, if they just thought about what they were doing. My friend has programmed for Windows Mobile and he tells me that they know its full of bugs and clashing scripts because of a lack of cummunication between departments, but they just release the software anyway, where an extra couple of days resolving the clashes between each application would solve the problem.
I mean, someone's worked really hard making all the hardware fit in the case which is the difficult part, but then not bothered designing or testing the stylus issue, something which is obviously gunna suffer from wear and tear.
I don't want a replacement device, but I just think that if we scare HTC/our service providers a bit with threats of trading standards, and show that alot of us are interested then it might make them spend the extra couple of weeks testing their next device and making sure it works well before they sell it.
I mean, the Sony Ericsson P990 does everything the wizard does, and more, but I bet they made sure the paint doesn't fall off and the stylus stays in. high functionality does not have to mean low quality.

Err... Can't speak for the p990 but the p800 I had suffered from peeling paint and stylus issues as well (cracking styluses, styluses that fell off) as well as a notorious keyboard design that actually worked until you put it in your pocket and broke the two tiny tabs that held the top of the keyboard away from the screen. So Sony-Ericsson isn't the acme of product perfection you hold them to be.
The only peeling paint I have had with my wizard has been the qtek label on the bottom. Which to me was no great loss.
To me the biggest issue with this phone has always been the software. Which honestly has improved dramatically since the 1.x firmware days.
I knew going in that the wizard had the potential to be a disaster of a phone hey lets see, an innovative package and feature set and new software from Microsoft is quite the triple threat for product mayhem but 9 months into it I have little to complain about.
That may all change tomorrow when the phone decides to self-whimilate or some such thing. but for now I'm content.

Paint problem really that bad or not?

Hello, im buying Touch HD and I saw people whining about paint getting damaged and dropping off. I have had 2 Diamonds, people said the same thing about these but I have never had paint problem myself.
So could you tell do you have this problem or not with paint. other threads are spoiled full with "it sucks" comments from same people 10 times which makes it hard to read is it major or just some people scratching phones with keys.
Maybe even tell when and where you bought your device from. This effects do I buy HD now or when invisible shield comes for HD.
Thanks!

If you dont have touch HD please press "View poll results"
Thanks

I can only vote once so I will add this: 2 of my friends have the HD and 4 colleagues have the dianond or the pro. NONE of them have paint chipping, only one has a single chip as a result of dropping it on a brick floor.
At this point, the only thing that really puts me off about this phone is the endless complainin and whining... it must be a certain type of person this phone attracts because e.g. the iphone 3g had similar and even worse problems: freezes, very poor call recepion, memory leaks, ****ty battery performance, super weak cracking and scratching plastic back cover and still it gets a religious following of people who believe and support it till the bitter end... ignorance? i doubt it, the iphone is an amazing phone, just like the HD.

I've been using HD for about three weeks now, and don't have any signs of paint coming off anywhere. I carry it in my pocket without any shield or case (although I don't carry keys or anything like that in the pocket).

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I can only vote once so I will add this: 2 of my friends have the HD and 4 colleagues have the dianond or the pro. NONE of them have paint chipping, only one has a single chip as a result of dropping it on a brick floor.
At this point, the only thing that really puts me off about this phone is the endless complainin and whining... it must be a certain type of person this phone attracts because e.g. the iphone 3g had similar and even worse problems: freezes, very poor call recepion, memory leaks, ****ty battery performance, super weak cracking and scratching plastic back cover and still it gets a religious following of people who believe and support it till the bitter end... ignorance? i doubt it, the iphone is an amazing phone, just like the HD.
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I think the reason people winge on here is because we are geeks. fact. we want it to be the very best technically and also to look at. The Iphone is aimed at a different market. maybe the more fashion concious? i.m happy with my HD and I've been using wm since the first spv. go and get yourself one. they are great, I wish the rom chefs would get on it though. hope dutty starts cooking soon!

Have been using it for the last 2 weeks and I have purchased from orange. I had no problem with the body /paint. I am quite a heavy user and don't use any case.
In addition,every day at least for 2 hours, I use it for listening to music over A2dp, using opera and rss hub as well as checking, replying email/sms, freezing issue people mention did not happen once.

what the heck - I'll vote on this one
phone is now 2 weeks old, direct from Orange.
I tend to be reasonably careful with it - buit no more so than I've been with any other phone really.
This means it usually (but not always) get's carried around in it's sock.
It doesn't get put in the same pocket as my keys.
I not at all careful though when putting the stylus in / out.
No paint issues at all, nothing, nada, zip. Looks exactly the same as it did when I got it out of the box
That said, from looking at the (few) posted pics on the other poll, I would say that there is definately a (small!) batch of phones out there where the paint hasn't been put on properly.
In my opinion (form what that's worth LOL), those owners should be sending them back for a replacement unit.
A chip of paint coming off - could be anything.
A chip of paint where it has left a spot of paint in the middle of the chip - that doesn't sound right to me.

ok I'll bite....
had device for just over two weeks. Overall very impressed, just found opera a little slow, but not unuseable.
Then the paint started coming off. I haven't dropped it, it's been well looked after. At the stylus slot, there is maybe a 2 mm strip where the paint has flaked off. I found the more i used the stylus, the more the paint came off.
Then I found it coming off near the home button. So it would only get worse.
IMHO this is not acceptable for a £500 handset. That is a LOT of money. I'd rather the handset finish was better than the trendy packaging.
So I mailed HTC and they told me to return it.
I will wait until this has been resolved before getting another.

I dont own one so I didnt vote, but yes I would say there is an actual issue with the paint.
Just look at these polls
xda-developers - 37,9% having problems
A swiss forum - 9,4% having problems
A german forum - 17,5% having problems

My paint go off. Less than one week of normal use (never fallen, never clashed or shocked). Scandalous, 600 euro paid.
My serial start with "HT843..."

Thank you for your replies. maybe there was some batch with problems, but it doesnt seem too big problem to make me not buy touch hd :>
less than 20% with problems - some user faults (not blaming anyone) - and some inaccuracy from poll, cant tell everyone who voted has HD.
Id say it isnt so big problem and since stores and HTC said to replace the device its fine for me. Sooon touch HD <3

I was fortunate enough to read about this before I started using mine, so I've been EXTRA CAREFUL, and haven't had any problems so far... >fingers crossed<

I've had no problems, but then I'm being quite cautious after seeing the paint chipping others have experienced before I got my HD.

ordered my HD yesterday, I hope it was just one faulty batch or something, getting invisible shield asap it comes to zagg.

for what its worth, i had my HD ordered on the 19th of Nov. and after using it for 3 days i noticed two extremely small paint peals on the top left corner. device has been cared for like a baby!

Time to buy invisible shield :> ordered mine 4 days ago, should be coming sooon to save my HD from scratches and stuff.

I got mine since 4 weeks now. Carry it without any cover in my jacket or my pants. Sometimes together with my keys "shame on me". It even made one hard contact with the floor from 5feet. Not one scratch. Got lucky.
But since I read here, maybe invisible shild isn't a bad idea at all.
are here already some closeups of HD with IS installed?

If i knew this i would happen, i would have never have bought mines.. completely amateurish

Yes my paint comes off too.
Have a spot on top, 1 on the left and one on the right side.
All three are non-scratches, but 'round-ish' spots were the paint fell off.
On the bottom side the paint around the USB connector flakes off very baddly.
Going over it softly with my nail, you can feel the paint chip off like mad.
I was one of the first to own an HD in the Netherlands.(reference to the possible batch problems)
I'll post photos and serial later.

Paint scratched but only by keys
I scratched my phone badly with a set of keys placed carelessly in a rucksack. In a few weeks of ordinary use no other parts of the phone (except the parts scratched by the keys) show any sign of damage - even around the USB port where I always try inserting the cable the wrong way around appears undamaged.

Fit of anger, Throw X1 :(

I had a huge fit of anger today and threw my X1 down on the floor. It bounced off the carperted floor, and hit the steel wall of my cubicle. The battery cover flew open and the battery flew out.
The slider is now loose. I went to the SE service center and they said that they've to import a part from Sony to fix my phone.
Luckily no more issues. everything else works fine, no cracks and paint peeling off.

Can I ask the reason you throw your X1 is because of the phone or work? I have a sudden urge to throw my X1 too as it kept hanging on me...

Ouchies!
Hopefully everything works out with parts replacement,
..and whatever you where angry for

Haha... Your story amused me. I'm glad it survived I once threw my cell-phone in rage with full force into a brick wall, drunk, late at the night of my graduation... Hehe. It smashed into pieces. That was ten years ago though, and it was no big loss since it was a big old clumpsy Nokia that hit the dust

Get anger management courses.

wht else, girl problems, can't live with them, can't live without them
Everrything else works fine though, and it'll take 6-7 days for the new part to be shipped. Have to wait till that.
But 1 point i'd like to make, after the most of man handled, not even scratch or a crack... and mine is 08W44.... can anything be deduced from tat?

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and mine is 08W44.... can anything be deduced from tat?
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That it's two weeks older than mine?
Glad to hear it survived mate, I threw an old nokia 6210 at a stone wall back in the day when they were new (same reason as you. women, eh?), and it somehow survived... I doubt my beloved x1 would survive such a collision but I also doubt that I'll let myself get that heavy handed with this phone

I've broken an NEC in half using just my hands.
It all depends on who you're dating I suppose.
Oh, and I've slammed the receiver of a normal cord telephone onto a desk so hard it broke off the whole earpiece. Same girl. Looong time ago.

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It all depends on who you're dating I suppose.
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How true!!! Very true!

next time throw it at the girl [evil face], and see what will break
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joking

(ironic mode: ON)
girls = phones
-at first you love them
-you decide its worth investing
-you achieve expected sattisfaction- or not
-with time they disappoint you somehow
-then *you shoud make up your mind and decide whether to keep or change* because:
there's a lot of phones out there to choose from
there's always a better one coming
(ironic mode: OFF)

- - how can u said like that.
Newer phones are getting better -> fact
Newer girls are getting better -> you did not learn

I seriously started this thread to tell you guys how sturdy the Xperia is, and look at what it's turned into

lmao how very amusing

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I seriously started this thread to tell you guys how sturdy the Xperia is, and look at what it's turned into
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It is because girl issue is more interesting(and exciting) than our sexy X1

if your willing to thow a phone over a girl its time to get a different chick.
now i agree the x1 is very sturdy my phone has taken acouple falls. all of them battery cover and battery came out of the phone it self. the pices were acouple feet apart. minor scratches in the plastic ring around the 3.5mm jack and my batt cover is scratched. my slider is still nice and stiff and i have no peeling plastic, no cracks. have had the phone for almost 2 months and goes through more usage then phone reviewers review phones.

My phone about 2 phones ago hit the wall with max force I remember.
During a night shift, for some reason I had a moment of blind rage
What sucked was that all my contacts was stored on the cell and it was totally destroyed =(

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Pro tip: Don't throw $800 phones, least of all because of girl problems. In fact, show off the $800 phone to attract more girls (and more girl problems ^^).
As for me, I never throw my phones but it's good to know that it's durable; I always carry my phone in my left pocket, and when I'm skateboarding my left leg is almost always forward (in other words, when I fall I tend to land on it or it will eject from the pocket if I'm going very fast). My SE K550i survived plenty of falls, let's hope that X1's quality construction does the same.

The "Stupid thing i did to my HD2" Thread

Hello there.
At first, I'm german and this is my school english and i wasn't realy good at school, so i'll try my very best and hope it will be readable.
I have my HD2 now for 5 month so it near to the half year.
As you know it'S not the cheapest thing in the world i had a few moments with it when i thought to myself: "God how stupid was that?".
The first moment i was thinking that was in the first week of using my HD2.
It was in the morning. standing in front of the mirror in the bath i had my hd2 under the mirror runing some music for a better start in the day. It stood upright beacause of the rubber end that i was thinking it will give enough grip to hold it right there. i was brushing my teeth and at the and i turned on the water spit out the crap and then it happend. i thing there was condensate unter my HD2 and the grip was suddenly gone. know you have to imagine slowmotion. my hand goes to the water-tap as i wanted to turn of the water. right in that moment the HD2 slipped off from the frame above the washbowl.it arived in the moment when the water stoped an the last drop was gone. there was my HD2 in the washbowl dry as the desert and looked into my face as it wants to say " you know that was lucky you stupid ashole". And that was exact that what i was thinking right in that moment.
no scratch and not a tiny drop of water on it. that was nearly a miracle.
the second time was very evil. i had to add the fact that i have a cat.
so i thougt, make it save to carge my HD2 and searc the highest point in the house. so i put it on top of my closet. i thought that the cat would never get up there and know the suprising thing in this story. the cat didn't got up there ever. to be true the cat didn't have anything to do with that .
i was in another room and then i heard that sound i never heard before. i never heard it because i didn't know the sound of vibrating HD2 on my hardwood closet. then there was another sound. i think it was the sound of a faling HD2 and the alu cover flewing around the room.
as i got aware of that i went into the room my HD2 was charging and it was on the floor screaming for help. so what happend was i didn't expect that the vibration of a incoming call was that hard, that my HD2 could fall of the closet. so it falls 2 meters down throws the back cover away and that was all. No scatches no broken display nothing. just the back cover falls of. the phone was still ringing and the first thing i said to my mother who was calling : "you nearly broked my HD2". I will never put it on top of anything. from that day on i'll charge on the floor.
so i've had a few moments like this and till today there is nothing broken or scratched. when i clean the disply it looks like fresh out of the box. so i think im the stupidest HD2 user on earth and i'm happy that this thing is the strongest phone i ever had. the first time i think that the mony was good invested.
so what about your storys?
ps.: hope my english wasn't that bad.

Guten tag lokiderelb!
Your English is certainly better than my school German!
I personally have a story from less than a few minutes ago.
I popped the HD2 on my work desk (which is quite smooth and slippery) next to my keyboard, and near the edge of the desk.
I did think to myself it was a bit near to the edge, but the keyboard is in the way, so I can't knock it, right?
What did I do? I knocked it, *with the keyboard* and it bounced off the desk, onto the handle of my chair, onto the foot of the chair, then onto a solid floor.
About a metre off of the floor, with several obstacles along the way
It ended up screen-down on the floor, a wash of fear went through me as a million pictures of smashed HD2s and iPhones* flashed before my eyes, like my life would in a near death experience...
I picked it up, making sure I didn't run it over with my chair (that would be my luck!) and slowly turned it around. Now, you know you get that fear wash through you, and a much better wash of relief? Well I got the latter.
My HD2 is now firmly on my desk, right in the middle!
* (my mate has broken several iPhones like that)

I can hear my heartbeat while reading your story
I wonder where is the limit to get this phone broke.
I saw pictures of broken displays and everyone knows the "knife vs HD2" movie on youtube. (i never will be able to give that a try).
ps.:thanks for the compliment.

I bought one.

hd2
sad stories btw why dont you buy a nice case for your mobile?

I bought one.
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Mhh. I respekt your expirience with HD2 and also could exept your point of view for the HD2 also i can't confirm that opinion , but i realy think this isn't the right thread for this.
do you know what spam is?
sad stories btw why dont you buy a nice case for your mobile?
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there comes a nice thin leader cover with it and most of the time i don't use the hd2 its in there, but to get the hole expirience of this device you can't keep it inside of any case, even it won't be very comfortable.
but my long time expirience with HD2 makes me wonder if i could ever broke it.

lokiderelb said:
from that day on i'll charge on the floor.
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until the cat knocks the wardrobe over...

lokiderelb said:
Mhh. I respekt your expirience with HD2 and also could exept your point of view for the HD2 also i can't confirm that opinion , but i realy think this isn't the right thread for this.
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With all due respect, just because you dont agree with my opinion, it doesnt make it invalid and it doesnt make it spam.
It was just meant to be a bit of humour about my regret of having purchased this phone.

So than it was ment ironic or some other kind of humor. But it would have been easier to understand with some of these --->

I got over excited on the day got it and nearly bricked it by flashing, funny thing is been flaahing my T/diamond 1 & 2 for ages lol, luckily this website saved my ass

Okay. Here's my story.
I like to listen to music a lot with my HD2. it was after 2 weeks of owning the device, (TMOUS), and I JUST took off the silicone case it came with because it made it hard for me to slip HD2 in and out of my jacket pocket.
Anyways, I was listening to music with the pair of earbuds connected to the device, and I saw this stray cat right in front of me. The cat was friendly for some reason, and started to rub on my legs.
So i bent over to pet the cat.
As I bent over with my arm extended, the earbuds pulled my phone from my pocket, and since I was leaned forward, the phone slipped out!
I haven't experienced that kind of slow motion yet, but it happened. I immediately moved my handto follow the device, but my hands were too slow or far away to save the phone from hitting the asphalt road.
At the last second my foot somehow moved on its own, and broke the fall.
I have a slight scratch on the corner of the phone, but it's pretty concealed with the case.
I'm NEVER taking off the case again.

Put my digital camera back on the desk without really looking... oops, actually on the HD2 that was exactly at the same place. Got 2 scratches on the screen from the screws on the camera bottom, after 3 weeks...

LOL Funny stories. Well, my story is short and it doesn't have a happy ending. I went for a walk and used my 4 day old HD2 as an "MP3 Player". I pulled it out of my pocket and dropped it face down on the sidewalk. CRACK. The glass shattered. The end. The moral of the story is, a touchscreen phone is not a "walkman". One fumble and it's going for expensive repairs.

Funny/sad stories This is for the HD1, so apologies for cheating, but it was still in the last year (October)
I cancelled my phone insurance two months into owning my HD. That very day I left it on an outdoor table with friends for one minute while I popped to the loo. This was the very first time I'd decided not to treat it like a real-life baby, and I paid for it, because I returned to a phone dripping in beer and my friend with a very guilty expression.
It survived almost working for three months, but then I got annoyed and got the HD2
Anyway, anyone want to buy an HD1? It's in excellent condition

smeddy said:
Funny/sad stories This is for the HD1, so apologies for cheating, but it was still in the last year (October)
I cancelled my phone insurance two months into owning my HD. That very day I left it on an outdoor table with friends for one minute while I popped to the loo. This was the very first time I'd decided not to treat it like a real-life baby, and I paid for it, because I returned to a phone dripping in beer and my friend with a very guilty expression.
It survived almost working for three months, but then I got annoyed and got the HD2
Anyway, anyone want to buy an HD1? It's in excellent condition
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lmao!
mine's not too funny it's more of a mystery.. (crazy ninja face)
one day i put the phone in my pocket, nothing special, walking around etc, i took it out of my pocket and the camera glass was smashed to bits
to this very day im still clueless
i guess i need bigger pockets

*eh...
For some reason I double posted on an accident.
Sorry.

Haha that was an awesome story! but cmon, you cant blame your mum for it hehe
I was just thinkin before i read the post that someone will say "i bought one" and lo behold some one did. if you dont like the phone, RETURN IT or give it to me! i wont mind having two hd2s!

i was browsing on the web..
while i waiting the youtube buffer( the internet here so slow....)
i hand on my hd2 and start a movie clip..
i was also charging my itouch with that d*mn broken cable
because of something i want to put back my hd2 on the desk
and i touched that d*mn cable and i get electrocuted
and my hd2 fell to the floor so hard...
since then, i charged my itouch far away from my hd2
sorry for bad english

Bent
I crushed it in the car door. Now the LCD is cracked and the chassis(?) is bent so the battery cover won't fit. Does anyone know if its worth selling it for spare parts (e.g. camera module/buttons/batteries)?

Well, I bought a Case-mate Barely There for HD2 and put it on. And for the 1st time put it off it nearly scratched my HD2 corner. I returned it right away. That's my only sad story