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3g problems

Hi. Newbie in this forum. Bought an htc tytn from u.s. but am from Phil using smart carrier with gsm band at 1800. after going thru sev topics, properly identified device as Herm200 rom:1.18.255.3 07/22/06 extrom:1.18.255.106 radio1.03.03.10 protocol32.34.7010.01H.
All phone features working perfectly except for 3G. Smart carrier people cannot help. What could be wrong. Vendor says 3g works on 2100 band. Confusing statement. What can be done? Connects to umts but when video call is pressed will not connect.

Which carrier are you on again? Smart Carrier? .. From what I know no carriers in the US support video calling .. Also, Cingular is the only GSM carrier in the US with 3G which runs on the 1900Mhz band ..
also .. what does your phone display while connected "G" or "U" ... what are your phone band settings .. can you also goto dslreports.com/mspeed and see what speeds are you getting ..

According to GSM world SMART (a Philippine operator) uses UMTS 2100, which your TyTN does definitely support.
Have you checked if your SIM card is 3G-enabled? Most 3G networks require special USIMs for 3G usage.
I just learned, that Cingular uses UMTS 850 and 1900 to be exact. According to the American HTC website the Cingular 8525 supports "Tri-band UMTS/HSDPA high speed wireless data network support (2100MHz and 850/1900 MHz), Quad-band GSM®/GPRS/EDGE worldphone".
Does anyone know if there is a special hardware version, that supports UMTS850 & 1900 or will my European TyTN work on those networks, too?

TyTN is tri-band UMTS .. 850/1900/2100 .. so it should work on these networks without any issues ...
And my bad .. didnt realize that you are trying to use the TyTN in Phillipines ..

You should also check, if the called party has a 3G signal, while you call him. Further make sure video calls are activated by your network operator.

3g problems in the philippines
Everything you guys mentioned in order(am in a 3g area calling a 3g enabled party with a 3g sim card). Even the tech staff behind Smart Communications cannot make it work. Displays U and u. But video call cannot push thru even if pic on front camera shows. There is 1 thin line( or command?) stopping it from connecting. My last option is to borrow my friend's unit and see if her unit's 3g works here then it's my device that's a problem. Thnks for the input. Keep it coming.
Herm200 qwerty rom:1.18.255.3
07/22/06
extrom:1.18.255.106
radio1.03.03.10
protocol32.34.7010.01H.

Hi. I don't know how they did it but Smart Communications did it! Apparently and ironically their 3g sim card is not compatible with the htc tytn but their regular sim is. Thanks all.

are u using 3G now in Phil ?
Is there a Globe perpaid 3G simcard ?

3g problems no more
Hi everyone. After my first thread i have finally got everything on my tytn working: 3g, mms, internet, phone. The problem was on the settings. Smart and Globe, the primary carriers in the Philippines can both work on the phone if the settings are right.

sectorlord,
yes there is 3g and hsdpa along with gsm and gprs and wap in the philippines. and yes you can buy globe prepaid 3g sim card.

glad to hear you've got your problems solved jjc!

Can the Wizard get 3G?

buddy of mine told me that the Wizard can get 3G speeds as well as 3.5G. any of this true?

Only if you use WiFi

Nope, the Wizard's radio is only capable of EDGE or 2.5g Speeds

3g sim card question

Would the sim card from a HTC Tilt (3G) work in say a Razr(non 3G phone)?

The 'phone must be hardware equipped with 3G.
The SIM then provides the 3G software functionality if the service provider has that equipment installed in its cells-and not all do (esp. the 'budget SPs)
Ashley

I know the non 3G phone wont have 3G speeds. I just don't want to have to get another sim card when I switch phones. One is 3G and the other is not.

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Would the sim card from a HTC Tilt (3G) work in say a Razr(non 3G phone)?
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should be compatible unless the Razr locked to a certain telco.
3g work depends in network and celphone not in simcard.
I am using my 4year old postpaid simcard from my himalaya to non-wm 3g phone, works fine.
My new simcard(3g printed on card) works with my himalaya(non-3g)

3G sim cards direct the phone to access the 3G network (UMTS) if the phone is so equipped with 3G compatibility. If a 3G sim card is placed in a 2G (GSM/GPRS) phone it simply provides the phone with the 2G network. There is no need for different SIM cards.
Conversely, a 2G SIM in a 3G phone can only provide the 2G network access so if you are after something like Streaming Video and you have a 2G SIM, this would be your problem
* Service issue hint. If your service went "bye-bye" after you bought a 3G phone it could be because you are on a fringe 3G area and the phone defaults to 3G network even if there is a strong 2G signal in the area. A workaround for this is to hunt up an old Cingular 64k 2G SIM that has not been used on Ebay or someplace like that and use it in your phone. You will lose the 3G network access but will have your old 2G network access again.
** The exception to the rule would be certain older model Nokia phones that show a phone restriction upon placing the 3g SIM in the phone (No, entering a restriction code does not clear the restriction)

3G problems

is anyone running the IOLITE phone on TMOBILE US with a 3G connection?

well, better now than never...here is the answer:
nobody is running 3g on iolite with t'mo...
3g freq on iolite is 2100 mhz, and that is a hardware spec that cannot be changed with softwares updates...
im in Chile and have the same problem...here i can't use 3G network...only EDGE.
sad but true...

Here in Spain, the 3G connection is well, is fast! (with Orange)
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards!

kenslaters said:
well, better now than never...here is the answer:
nobody is running 3g on iolite with t'mo...
3g freq on iolite is 2100 mhz, and that is a hardware spec that cannot be changed with softwares updates...
im in Chile and have the same problem...here i can't use 3G network...only EDGE.
sad but true...
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I'm also have unlocked Iolite and according to spec it have following:
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100
CSD, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA, UMTS/WCDMA, GPS
So I think it should work with 3G network.
I preordered 3G network package from my ISP (Orange, IL) and configure it properly, according to ISP instruction... but whenever I enable Data Connection it always show "G" letter on top bar.
On Iolite support site I read following:
You will see these icons on the title bar when your device is connected to the Internet. G means connected via GPRS. E means connected via EDGE. 3G means connected via 3G. H means connected via 3.5G.
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Somebody know another way how to check with network I connected GPRS or 3G?

igor7: If you are connected to 3G network, your carrier name usually has 3G in name. For example 3G Vodafone instead of Vodafone. You should also check, which frequency is used for 3G in your country. If it is not 900 or 2100 MHz, you can't use Iolite for 3G.
EDIT: It is 2100 MHz in Israel. So next step is to check, if you are within 3G network coverage

torrentonly: The problem was in my sim card... It ~ 10 years old. I received it with my first mobile phone. Therefore it doesn't know nothing better than GPRS . Previously I didn't use internet on Iolite, so I didn't pay attention on this issue. Now, after I upgraded Iolite to WM6.5 and install WAZE navigation software (it use internet connection and preloaded drivers alert, traffic info e.t.c.) I noticed that my connection to slow...

Problem with 3G Services with Orange in Dominican Republic

HI my name is David and I bought a T-mobile My Touch 3G and this is what happend, I got this phone because i like it so much i previously had the G1, i got this new one because it works on 3G HDSPA 900mhz network and that is the Network 3G range of Orange Dominicana but i just got the Edge symbol its connected to the internet but through Edge it got the little "E" how can i fix this problem to have the 3g up and running on my phone its there any software or radio or spl or anything that can fix this please I want to know this because i've tried everything and the 3G on the phone doesnt work yet.
Best Regards,
David Peniche

penichej said:
HI my name is David and I bought a T-mobile My Touch 3G and this is what happend, I got this phone because i like it so much i previously had the G1, i got this new one because it works on 3G HDSPA 900mhz network and that is the Network 3G range of Orange Dominicana but i just got the Edge symbol its connected to the internet but through Edge it got the little "E" how can i fix this problem to have the 3g up and running on my phone its there any software or radio or spl or anything that can fix this please I want to know this because i've tried everything and the 3G on the phone doesnt work yet.
Best Regards,
David Peniche
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Have you checked in your settings? Is "always use 2G" unchecked?

ayush20m said:
Have you checked in your settings? Is "always use 2G" unchecked?
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Yes i've tried everything on this phone and still not working, i uncheked the option "Always use 2G network" and still i got the same problem.

Was that phone meant to be used with Orange? If it was not it could be possible that it's the same thing as when you use a T-Mobile phone on at&t or vise versa; you can’t connect to 3G because both companies have different frequencies.

cmarti said:
Was that phone meant to be used with Orange? If it was not it could be possible that it's the same thing as when you use a T-Mobile phone on at&t or vise versa; you can’t connect to 3G because both companies have different frequencies.
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OK I know that there's diference between those 2 companies T-Mobile and Orange Dominicana but the specification of the cellphone are:
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
and the network frequency that Orange has for 3G HSDPA is 900MHZ and the cell phone should be up and running with the 3G maybe the T-Mobile has another frequency about its 3G network but this cellphone supports also 900MHZ HSDPA that is my frequency here in DR., so there's nothing to fix this problem??

3G Orange Dominican Republic
only htc europe works with 3g orange Dominican republic
tmovile have dif 3g band
sry it will no work :-(