Would the sim card from a HTC Tilt (3G) work in say a Razr(non 3G phone)?
The 'phone must be hardware equipped with 3G.
The SIM then provides the 3G software functionality if the service provider has that equipment installed in its cells-and not all do (esp. the 'budget SPs)
Ashley
I know the non 3G phone wont have 3G speeds. I just don't want to have to get another sim card when I switch phones. One is 3G and the other is not.
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Would the sim card from a HTC Tilt (3G) work in say a Razr(non 3G phone)?
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should be compatible unless the Razr locked to a certain telco.
3g work depends in network and celphone not in simcard.
I am using my 4year old postpaid simcard from my himalaya to non-wm 3g phone, works fine.
My new simcard(3g printed on card) works with my himalaya(non-3g)
3G sim cards direct the phone to access the 3G network (UMTS) if the phone is so equipped with 3G compatibility. If a 3G sim card is placed in a 2G (GSM/GPRS) phone it simply provides the phone with the 2G network. There is no need for different SIM cards.
Conversely, a 2G SIM in a 3G phone can only provide the 2G network access so if you are after something like Streaming Video and you have a 2G SIM, this would be your problem
* Service issue hint. If your service went "bye-bye" after you bought a 3G phone it could be because you are on a fringe 3G area and the phone defaults to 3G network even if there is a strong 2G signal in the area. A workaround for this is to hunt up an old Cingular 64k 2G SIM that has not been used on Ebay or someplace like that and use it in your phone. You will lose the 3G network access but will have your old 2G network access again.
** The exception to the rule would be certain older model Nokia phones that show a phone restriction upon placing the 3g SIM in the phone (No, entering a restriction code does not clear the restriction)
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I run the unlock exe file on my XDA. Now it accepts Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile but not the 3 network. Any idea why ?
Erm because "3" is literally as it sounds. 3rd Generation. Orange/T-mobile etc etc are all 2G. Yes they have all released/releasing 3G networks/phones, but your device is a 2G phone. It won't support 3G SIM cards. Sorry.
well the early 3g sims did work in 2g phones of cause not on the 3g network then it would just roam 2g networks like 3g phones does when they cant get a 3g signal
but 3gblocked it in later models as far as i heard
Here in the US I am using T-Mobile, wich doesn't have 3G yet. So, I probably don't have a 3G sim in my Hermes, and everywhere I go, I always get only a G next to my phone icon. However, when I went to Toronto, Canada, this past week, the G changed to a U. Does that mean:
1) UMTS network was detected, but all it did was detect it, and keep using GSM?
2) UMTS network was detected, and I was able to connect to it, because the 3G in a 3G sim cards is for internet access only,
3) the U is for internet connection availability only, and doesn't affect the cell voice phone part of my TyTN?
or
4) I somehow got a 3G compatible SIM card, and had I wanted to, could've been charged $10 every 8 to 10 seconds for downloading REALLY fast (I get charged $10US a meg if I use web outside of USA)
Hello rassah,
In order to have a 3G service you do NOT have ot have a 3G SIM (also known as USIM). The network is backward compatible and will allow you to use whatever your SIM card (or the network) authorized you.
I am also TMO subscriber and in some countries I could use UMTS and in others only 2.5G (GPRS/EDGE). Technically you have no limitations to do so so its up to the commercial arrangements between TMO USA and the other operators.
So the bottom line:
a. Your device detected UMTS and the network allowed your device to be attached to the 3G network (hence you saw the "U").
b. You probably have a SIM and not USIM (like you mentioned TMO still does not have 3G network ready for commercial use).
c. It is perfectly OK technically to connect to a 3G network even if you have 2.5G SIM card (pending you are authorized by the network to get such a service).
You can do a simple test next time you are in Toronto or other place where you see the "U". Go to www.dslreports.com, they have speed tools, try to perform a speed test and if you are connected with "U" you should get 3G speed results (again, depends on the network and the quality of the signal.. you will see a result of something between 200k to 300k i would guess)
PS: You are right about the cost per meg. But look at the 3G speed as you get what you want but just faster so the bottom line is - you are being charged the same as 2.5G just get work done sooner
My provider doesn't offer 3G yet, just EDGE. However, if I get a 3G 64k USIM card and have my SIM card's info copied over, will it work and when I'm roaming in a 3G network area, will I get 3G speeds?
thanks
Device: A2017U
Software: Stock, rooted (if it matters), B29
Sim 1: Tmobile gsm mode (connected to tmobile) for voice only
Sim 2: freedompop gsm/hspa mode (connected to att), for data only
Issue: Device keeps losing connection to tmobile when sim 2 is enabled. My immediate area has relatively poor tmobile coverage so keeping it in 2g (gsm) mode extends battery life. It'll stay connected for a bit, then drops, and doesn't regain until I disable/re-enable sim 2. I haven't tried disableing/re-enabling sim 1, but that may also work.
It seems there's some incompatibility when gsm mode is set.
I haven't tried swapping the sim cards yet as the freedompop sim has been removed from its plastic (both sim cards + sd card currently installed).
I wonder if the issue is because in general sim1 has greater priority, and is being used with a lower/inferior network standard (gsm vs hspa). When both are set to gsm/hspa, no disconnect issues, but signal is a good 10 db weaker on the tmobile side.
Thoughts?
Try flipping the sim orientation, see what that does. I'd also try to let your voice only sim camp on umts. Tmobile has been cannibalizing 2g and lots of the newer towers don't have 2g installed on them.
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Try flipping the sim orientation, see what that does. I'd also try to let your voice only sim camp on umts. Tmobile has been cannibalizing 2g and lots of the newer towers don't have 2g installed on them.
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I'll definitely give that a shot.
Further research (tmo ........................ att ) , shows that tmo gsm operates at 1900 mhz, while att hspa also operates at 1900. Since the dual sim set up on here is active standby, I wonder if the different carriers operating at the same freq has something to do with it.
Harmtan2 said:
Try flipping the sim orientation, see what that does. I'd also try to let your voice only sim camp on umts. Tmobile has been cannibalizing 2g and lots of the newer towers don't have 2g installed on them.
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Swapping sims didn't change anything. Looks like I'll just leave it on 3g and call it a day. In fact, most of the usage is data, so the voice sim can be turned off most of the time. I use gv for my primary number, there's an immediate email notification for any missed calls even if the caller hangs up.
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OP5 suport (like OP3T) to be 1 sim on 4G (data) and second sim on 3G (voice) ???
post screenshot with sim configuration
thanks
I can only set the data sim to 2G/3G/4G but the second one is only 2G/3G (only need 2G but can not set it).
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I can only set the data sim to 2G/3G/4G but the second one is only 2G/3G (only need 2G but can not set it).
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my second sim carrier only support 3G (voice and data - band 2100) and 4G (only data)
and from what you tell me it can work
on other dual-sim phones second sim can be only 2G
Where you from? 3G is quadband, so it will work, just maybe not in the USA.
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Hi
OP5 suport (like OP3T) to be 1 sim on 4G (data) and second sim on 3G (voice) ???
post screenshot with sim configuration
thanks
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Only one SIM can be set as the active Data SIM at any one time. The other SIM can still work over UMTS ("3G"), so the OP3/3T/5 are not affected by AT&T's 2G Sunset. You can still get the calls/text over UMTS.
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Only one SIM can be set as the active Data SIM at any one time. The other SIM can still work over UMTS ("3G"), so the OP3/3T/5 are not affected by AT&T's 2G Sunset. You can still get the calls/text over UMTS.
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If I understand you correctly, the data SIM is software selectable. This would allow me to switch between the SIM cards based on 4g availability.
PS Other posters seem to indicate that only the SIM in the first position can be used to access 4g.
Explore3 said:
If I understand you correctly, the data SIM is software selectable. This would allow me to switch between the SIM cards based on 4g availability.
PS Other posters seem to indicate that only the SIM in the first position can be used to access 4g.
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Yes. On the 3/3T there was even a toggle in the notification/status bar to switch the Data SIM immediately without needing to head to Settings.
Could someone please confirm with a screenshot showing that the second SIM on the OP5 supports 3G while the first SIM is using 4G or 3G?