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remote control ma ppc with ma pc via gprs??? how??!??
is there no way to control my pc from my ppc!??!!?
something like remote desktop(windows have..) ??
Most remote control software works using a regular network connection through active sync.
This should thus be possible with pretty much any nework connection, including gprs. Basically just dial gprs, get your phone's ip address, and use that for remote control. I think. In theory. But not fast.
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Hang on. what are you asking? control you PPC from your PC or vice versa.
Either way, look into VNC.
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no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
another program?
JuNiOr_Gr said:
no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
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I would have thought so.
You'll need XP pro for the remote desktop server to be built in though. XP home does not have it.
Failing that, VNC, look here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
You can do this easily via GPRS. Simply connect to the internet via GPRS, and then start up Terminal Services Client on the ppc, insert the ip address of your pc, and step through the authentication dialogue. Of course you will have to make sure that your pc (running WinXP) has World Wide Web Services installed, so as to enable Remote Desktop via the internet.
Hope this helps.
i tried via terminal services , add my ip(of the pc) open the port from router, from my coputer click the allow other people to connect to this pc(also there i added ppc's ip) but could connect. i got an error from ppc.
i am using win xp pro .
i there another application like terminal services ??
VNC?
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VNC?
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couldnt download it
can u tell me which file? that one which sais PocketPC win2003?
i download that and a error came out
Did you enter your PCs IP address as seen on the PC, or did you enter the external internet IP? They are 2 different numbers, and regardless of whether you have ports open or not you wont be able to connect directly to the PCs network IP address.
If you're using an ADSL router then go to the configuration or settings page and find out what your internet IP is.
Re VNC
I've used this one quite well:
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc2.htm
But there are other free versions I imagine.
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@JuNiOr_Gr
Which Port did you open for Terminal Services?
Did you then connect to you Internet IP from your PPC or to your local IP?
If you use VNC you have to open the VNC Port (default 5900).
Ist there a software firewall (e.g. XP Firewall) installed on your PC?
For terminal services to work you must have a password set on your XP account. Otherwise it should work with port 3389 forwarded. I use it fine from my Magician over GPRS.
Only thing is that it's a shame you don't seem to be able to turn off desktop background, themes etc that you can from the Desktop version of Terminal Services Client as this would improve speed.
I've set up LogMeIn, but it's left me dissatisfied. I don't like the fact that it's website based, and it's a little slow for my tastes.
I've attempted VNC and Remote Desktop but, sadly, it's a little over my head. I'm by no means a noobie, but I've never dabbled in remote desktop type work before.
Is there a simple tutorial for setting up VNC or Remote Desktop clients for the Wizard? I could really use one. I've been trying to search for it for a few days, and I turned up absolute zilch.
Thanks!
both VNC and remote desktop would need to be enabled on your workstation / server / computer and make sure that either the required ports for VNC (port 5900+) and Remote Desktop Connection (port 3389) and open your firewall or the windows firewall is turned off.
if you are trying to use VNC / RDP, using your GPRS/EDGE connection then there's more tweaking which needs to be done ... this would entail you to go to your router/firewall and open ports 5900 (VNC) and 3389 (Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Connection) and point these ports to the right IP Address (which would be the IP address of your workstation).
if you have any questions about remote access just email me back ... i use my XDA Exec, Qtek 8500 and all the other PDA's i have to access my network at the office as well as at my clients all the time ... both through VNC and through Remote Desktop Connection ....
what program do you need on the wizard to do remote desktop?
right now i can remote desktop to my work computer from my laptop at home. is it similar? thank you.
There should be a remote desktop client already installed on your Wizard. Look in the Programs folder for "Terminal Services Client". It works pretty much the same as it does on big Windows.
As dumb as this is, I really need a step by step to help me out on this subject.
I'm unsure what is needed to get the Remote Desktop Client working. I have XP Pro. I have a "Remote" section under my home computers system properties. However, the one tutorial I could find asked me to go into Add/Remove Windows Devices and apply some sort of setting there. Upon doing so, I was asked to insert my Windows XP CD which . . . I don't have.
If I don't need that CD, I am open to doing either Remote Desktop or VNC. Whichever is preferable, I guess. I don't know which is more full-featured, which one is quicker, etc.
So I need help getting started. What do I do?
Hey Dr.Other
Okay here is a step by step to enable remote desktop on your computer ( much better then VNC in my book but I am sure others may disagree..so in the end its personal prefrence...I just like RD (remote desktop) better cause I can stream music if I wanted and its also encrypted (I think I read that some where) any way here it is for remote desktop.
Guessing you are useing Windows XP Pro
Right Click on MY COMPUTER ( on your desktop)
From the menu that opens up Click (Left click) on PROPERTIES
You will see a few tabs in a window called System Properties
Click on the REMOTEtab
Check the Box under the Remote desktop area that say ALL USEERS TO CONNECT REMOTELY TO THIS COMPUTER (its not in caps)
Next click on Select Remote User and click ADD
TYpe in the users name (what ever name you use to login with)
Hit Okay till your back to your desktop
Phone:
Start\Programs\Terminal services Client
under servers type in the IP address of your computer ( Hint try it locally 1st if you have wifi in your house and then click connect) its a bit difficult to naviagate and the colors are not the best ( which leads me toa question ...look at the bottem for the Q ) but it will do...I have hcked email looked at my fav places for a book name I had bookmarked but forgot etc. its really cumbersome but in teh end it may get the job done. Though Fair warning your icons and stuff will be bunched up on your desktop computer once you RD from your Phone
RD to your phone..... What ? can you remote desktop to your phone ?
I think so...if you enable terminal service port on the device you maybe able to connect to it from your computer ...but I am still trying to figure that one out
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
geekserver said:
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
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Even if you could it would slow the process down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I wouldnt even have a background on as it slows to a crawl.
Hi. Is there any alternate application for TSC on WM5? I am using it to connect my PDA to Remote Desktop via GPRS. That's not problem but my display has limited resolution (QVGA) to view all content of the remote desktop. I need some function to modify the resolution of Terminal Computer (like standard Windows XP Remote Desktop apllication). Thanks.
Why not use VNC or LogMeIn etc?
You can also use Nydiot to do this artificially.
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Thank you. VNC seems to be a good choice. Only small (rather big ) broblem remains.
I used to enter just name of my business server in TSC in format like xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx.xx (no numbers). Taht's all and it worked. Now it is not enough. VNC automatically adds some "5900 port number" and even I change to other port (i.e. 3389), program is not able to connect (5900 port) or to communicate (3389 port) with the server. So it seems to me, that TSC used some specific port number (hidden to me) and my question is WHICH? Or is there any other problem? Thanks.
If you're using a firewall, ensure this port is enabled for this app. If ypu 're using a router, ensure this port is forwarded to your pc.
Can't remember the default port, just google for it. You can also try run > mstsc.exe on your desktop to check.
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Sorry for my ignorance but I don't quite understand. I was talking about VNC client in my PDA and it looks like you are talking about desktop PC. But yes, I can connect to my busines server via desktop PC but problem is with my PDA. Anyway thanks for your advice, I'll check Google for that damn port
IIRC the port is the same on PDA and PC. Launching mstsc.exe on your PC will permit you to find the PC's default port number, which should also be the same for the pda. Enter that into VNC server AND client.
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O.K. I have another stupid question. I have launched "mstsc.exe" but only information I've got is that about my server name and some other in "Options menu". That's what I already know. Where is the port number witten?
to change to TSC on a different port, say if you changed it 3390 (instead of 3389) enter hostname.com:3890 to change the default port on the server edit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp
the entry needs to be made in hex (3389=00000D3D & 3390=00000D3E)
VNC always defaults to 5900, but this can be changed on the server, and on the client you just add :X where X is an increment above 5900 so if the port is 5901 you connect to hostname.com:1 & 5902 you connect to hostname.com:2
I'm not sure if I am reading this right and my apologies if I'm stating the obvious.
If you want to use VNC on your PDA you will also need to install VNC on your actual server and configure as a server.
Unfortunatly VNC & rdp (terminal services) use different protocols so just changing the port number to match won't work.
RDP/Terminal service is included in Windows XP & 2003/2000 (if installed/configured) VNC is a third party application.
i think were a bit lost here
anyway, heres some ver of vnc for pocketPC.s
some free ones
http://home.utah.edu/~mcm5849/wince/vnc.html
and some commercial ones
http://software.brighthand.com/product.asp?id=5563
http://www.mochasoft.dk/vncce.htm (the one i use)
personally i like tsc, as you can change the screen size.
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I'm not sure if I am reading this right and my apologies if I'm stating the obvious.
If you want to use VNC on your PDA you will also need to install VNC on your actual server and configure as a server.
Unfortunatly VNC & rdp (terminal services) use different protocols so just changing the port number to match won't work.
RDP/Terminal service is included in Windows XP & 2003/2000 (if installed/configured) VNC is a third party application.
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You are absolutely right and you don't have to apologize because the stupid one is me I really didn't know that VNC server shall be also installed on desktop. But in that case there is no solution for my problem as my employer will not install any VNC on his server.
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...personally i like tsc, as you can change the screen size.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
Viktor: there aren't (m)any non Microsoft terminal services clients.
The standard PDA client is not very good, limited resolution, not fullscreen.
You can use VJFullScreenTSC to get rid of the softkeys/make it fullscreen, but a better or additional solution is to use Nydiot or similar virtual screen manager to extend your screen resolution. This apparently lets you use a much bigger screen resolution on TSC.
If you have access to the server, you can just run the VNC server yourself. It's a tiny program, no complex installation, I use it to control my PCs from work.
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PS The Crossbow Remote Desktop client is much better apparently. If you can wait, it'll be worth it.
Give Mocha Remote Desktop a try. It works pretty well and lets you change the port easily.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
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yep, when connecting you have option "limit size of server to fit on screen"
i dont use this, its just too small. its the only time i change my screen to landscape, getting a more useful working area. true, i only want access to a dos prompt, services or notepad.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
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sorry viktor, yes tsc=terminal service client
Another option could be to install VNC on your PC at work if the admin will allow the required firewall rules.
Then use the PPC VNC client to connect to your PC and then access a DOS prompt, Services or notepad.
Also logging onto the server from your desktop could be possible through the desktop version of Remote Desktop Connection.
I do something similar in that I use the PPC TS Client (& VJ's excellent VJFSTSC on a Universal) to logon to one server setup for Citrix and RDP access and then use the Remote Desktop Connection to connect to any other server/client that I wish to access.
Nyditot's Virtual Display also works well with the PPC version of the TS Client and allows 800x600 & 1024x768 resolutions provided Virtual Display is set to those resolutions prior to connecting. You would then use virtual display's navigation controls to move around your desktop
(VJFSTSC works but hiding the SIP is a bit hit & miss because with nyditot VJTSC required menu options to be selected twice and you often end up with the top start bar returning.)
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yep, when connecting you have option "limit size of server to fit on screen"
i dont use this, its just too small...
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But that function doesn't "shrink" screen size of the server to fit into my PDA display. Marking this checkbox will only cut the the central (320x240) part of the server screen without any possibility to scroll. So it is even worse case than to leave it unmarked...
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But that function doesn't "shrink" screen size of the server to fit into my PDA display. Marking this checkbox will only cut the the central (320x240) part of the server screen without any possibility to scroll. So it is even worse case than to leave it unmarked...
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Viktor, that is wrong, tsc should give you a tiny little screen, with limited content, but for example if you run cmd or services, you get a usable (non scrolling) screen.
i dont quite know what you want to achive, but a way to get 25% of a screen is to use vnc (server) on a machine withe the screen res changed to 640x480, change your fonts & menus to small. you see where i'm going?
what u need is a DELL VGA x51pda and teathing it to your tytn! then u can access your remote pc and view it just like at your office with VGA display!
this is y i so desperate need a VGA pdaPhone with tri-band hsdpa.
Finally Microsoft have got their act together and provided a pretty good RDP client.
Crossbow's client is much better than previous versions offering friendly full screen support with which it is simple to toggle betweet RDP Mobile and other applcations.
(On a Full screen RDP session just press the Ok button to be presented with a Yes/No box offering to disconnect, selecting NO will leave the session intact and just , move it to the background without needing to logon again.)
Also from a fullscreen session just hit either of the buttons mapped to the softkeys to toggle back to windowed mode (Start bar visible).
Encrytion has been improved as RDP mobile nolonger requires the connection to be downgraded to Client Compatible.
I'm not forgetting the other documented features such as a coice of 256 Colours or High Colour (16 bit) and the ability to map audi from the server to the PPC.
Considering VJ's excellent VJFSTSC app was usually one of the first things to be installed after a rom upgrade I'm glad Microsoft have made their client not just usable but they have provided a long overdue (No change between 2003 & WM5) overhaul.
Taking things a little further I was surprised that Nyditot's Virtual Display works on Crossbow and the RDP client will allow a 800x600 screen (probably any res you choose) provided that the Fit to screen option is used.
Taz, I was slow to update VJFSTSC because I 'had a feeling' about remote desktop.. I don't know if there's any point continuing with my app, but I can think of some improvements to the new client, so maybe I can move in a different direction.
Many thanks for the review though. How do you find performance?
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Try to get remote [email protected] 16 colors.
And now for a couple of pprblems with the new RDP Client
Hopefully these will be addressed by Microsoft before Crossbow/WM6 is officially released.
1. Remote Desktop Mobile will nolonger initiate a VPN through the Exceptions list within the Connections' settings. If you need to connect through a VPN you now need to connect to a VPN manually before connecting through Remote Desktop Mobile.
2. The auto fill for the Computer you wish to connect to can be a little awkward.
Once a few computers have been added, trying to connect to an additional computer with a similar name/IP to one already cached can result in RDM automattically filling in the details of a prev entered computer.
Trying to delete part of the pre-empted details results in the whole field being emptied but as you start to type the computer details again the autofill adds a previously entered computer again. The workaround is to enter the new computer name in one of the other fields and cut/paste it into the 'Computer' field.
VJ if you are considering a VJRDM application here are a few suggestions.
1. Maintain a list of computers & credential within your own application so that selecting which computer you wish to connect to will automatically launch RDM and connect to the required computer.
2. Include an option to automattically choose the Internet/Work connection and if your own database of details is maintained, allow these settings to be saved alongside the Username,Password, Domain and other settings.
3. The ability to program a WM device's hardware keys for CTRL, Esc, Alt and other Windows functions whilst using RDM without needing to reprogram these keys at the device level would be excellent
(ie launch VJRDM and the E-mail key becomes CTRL, Home becomes ALT but only whilst VJRDM is active. Whilst using other applications these keys retain their original function.)
4. Finally an option to temp disable push e-mail whilst connecting over a VPN would be handy as it would save activesync closing the VPN connection eveytime it tries to connect and shutting down the VPN.
Even with the above couple of problems DRM is far better than the terminal service client.
Does anyone know of a small application to launch a VPN without having to wade through the Connections' settings?
onlineemails I was about to suggest setting the colour depth on the server but it appears that XP and 2003 have a min depth of 8 bit (256 colours)
Hi all, is it possible to copy all the files from WM6 RDM on to a WM5 Universal, therefore being able to use the more advanced RDM on WM5?, as RDM is the ony reason i would upgrade to WM6.
Thanks
Does anyone know the file names for Remote Desktop in Crossbow?
Hi,
I am looking for a better Remote Desktop client for WM5 on my HTC Hermes.
With screen resolution setting...
Unfortunately I couldn't find anything useful.
Maybe I could use the new client from WM6.
How can I find it ?
Can anyone who has WM6, send it to me please?
Or maybe you can suggesta good client for WM5 ?
Thanks
can remote desktop be used when the universal is not connected to a home network, but through the internet with gprs/umts??
i havent got logmein working with crossbow yet :S
logmein works for me. I'm using Midgets vanilla rom at the mo.
stupid me... it does work with IE, just not with opera :$
can I use higher res than 640*480? my school's term server is requesting a minimum resolution of 800*600...
is there anyway to get wm6 remote dsektop in wm5?
i had my brother forward port 3389 from the network server to my pc and now the remote desktop works perfect with the gprs/umts connection
way better then LogMeIn
can anybody tell me how to setup remote desktop from HTC to my PC (I am using Windows 7)
Step by step please guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCs4GQma7IQ
With that guide I made it work, good luck.
I did exactly everything in this guide and even set a corresponding exception in the Windows firewall (also tried with Windows firewall off) - but the mobile remote desktop program always tells me there was an internal error... But what the heck could that be?
Dont bother the remote dt program is ****e, im currently using vnc which is a bit better, but rather lacking also.
Is it me or did that video not mention setting up your windows machine to allow connections.
Make sure remote desktop is enabled on your PC and make sure it is allowing connections from computers running any version of Remote desktop(2nd option) third option works between windows 7 machines but wouldn't allow my phone to connect.
Your error sounds like it is being caused by something on the phone end though so i dont know if that will help.
Those with remote desktop working can you get it to go landscape? Mine works fine except i can't get landscape mode. Also anyone know of a app that can send wake up requests to a machine? I have this on my laptop so i can wake my pc over the internet and then log in. Anything similar out there for win mobile?
allowing a connection through windows firewall alone is not helping, if you have other system securtiy programs that also has a firewall. or maybe your router has a firewall too. you should try and forward the right port (3389) in the software of your router.
I opened port 3389 on the router, I activated the correct remote desktop option on the PC (Vista), the IP is right (wrong IP adress throws a different error, so the program gets that far)...
I guess you have Windows 7 Home version
Have you tried using 16 bit high colour option? Mine said it couldn't connect when i turned it down to 256 colours.
Edit: Windows 7 x64 btw
OK on my windows7 x64 ive turned on remote desktop and set it to allow connections (2nd option) and i still cant connect, what do i type in user/pass on the hd2
-ive setup the portforwarding on my bethere box
-tryed both color modes on hd2
does it have to be over wifi or can it be over 3g?
Your user name and password for windows.
You MUST have a password set up on your windows account to be able to use remote desktop. If you don't have a password set up remote desktop and other network related access will not work. I.e using the phone to access shared windows folders.
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Your user name and password for windows.
You MUST have a password set up on your windows account to be able to use remote desktop. If you don't have a password set up remote desktop and other network related access will not work. I.e using the phone to access shared windows folders.
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ok ive added a password to my pc but still wont work, i think i tmay be something todo with this steps
2. Open a web browser, and type 192.168.1.1 to access your router. If you don't know the default username and password (usually admin/password), Google for it.
3. Enter port forwarding. Add a new entry using your local IP address, and the start/end port of 3389.
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my router is a THOMSON TG585v7 and to log into it i need to type http://192.168.1.254 so i did and the only thing like port forwarding i can find is the Toolbox\Game & Application Sharing menu and in their i can type the ports but cant type the local IP address as their no where to add it, ive added a pic that might help you help me
If you are accessing the machine via your wifi(i.e your own network) you should be able to do it without any port forwarding.
So punch in your machines local IP and your username and password. That should work(make sure it is using your WiFi and not still connecting via 3G). If you wanted to be able to do it via 3G/wifi(external network) then you will need to get port forwarding working.
Edit: Port forwarding guide for you. I think this is roughly the same version of router you have just different branding.
http://www.portforward.com/english/...mson-Alcatel/SpeedTouch585/Remote_Desktop.htm
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If you are accessing the machine via your wifi(i.e your own network) you should be able to do it without any port forwarding.
So punch in your machines local IP and your username and password. That should work(make sure it is using your WiFi and not still connecting via 3G). If you wanted to be able to do it via 3G/wifi(external network) then you will need to get port forwarding working.
Edit: Port forwarding guide for you. I think this is roughly the same version of router you have just different branding.
http://www.portforward.com/english/...mson-Alcatel/SpeedTouch585/Remote_Desktop.htm
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so in the last part of the setup i need to manually define it as the local ip, still not working if that's what i should do
The last step is applying the forwarding to your PC. So you should be able to pick your PCs name in the drop down box.
Have you tried just doing it over your local wireless network(forget about port forwarding for a minute.) Enter the local IP(could also just try entering the name of the PC though im not sure if that works) of your PC as the computer then your user name and password.