Hi. Is there any alternate application for TSC on WM5? I am using it to connect my PDA to Remote Desktop via GPRS. That's not problem but my display has limited resolution (QVGA) to view all content of the remote desktop. I need some function to modify the resolution of Terminal Computer (like standard Windows XP Remote Desktop apllication). Thanks.
Why not use VNC or LogMeIn etc?
You can also use Nydiot to do this artificially.
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Thank you. VNC seems to be a good choice. Only small (rather big ) broblem remains.
I used to enter just name of my business server in TSC in format like xxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx.xx (no numbers). Taht's all and it worked. Now it is not enough. VNC automatically adds some "5900 port number" and even I change to other port (i.e. 3389), program is not able to connect (5900 port) or to communicate (3389 port) with the server. So it seems to me, that TSC used some specific port number (hidden to me) and my question is WHICH? Or is there any other problem? Thanks.
If you're using a firewall, ensure this port is enabled for this app. If ypu 're using a router, ensure this port is forwarded to your pc.
Can't remember the default port, just google for it. You can also try run > mstsc.exe on your desktop to check.
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Sorry for my ignorance but I don't quite understand. I was talking about VNC client in my PDA and it looks like you are talking about desktop PC. But yes, I can connect to my busines server via desktop PC but problem is with my PDA. Anyway thanks for your advice, I'll check Google for that damn port
IIRC the port is the same on PDA and PC. Launching mstsc.exe on your PC will permit you to find the PC's default port number, which should also be the same for the pda. Enter that into VNC server AND client.
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O.K. I have another stupid question. I have launched "mstsc.exe" but only information I've got is that about my server name and some other in "Options menu". That's what I already know. Where is the port number witten?
to change to TSC on a different port, say if you changed it 3390 (instead of 3389) enter hostname.com:3890 to change the default port on the server edit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp
the entry needs to be made in hex (3389=00000D3D & 3390=00000D3E)
VNC always defaults to 5900, but this can be changed on the server, and on the client you just add :X where X is an increment above 5900 so if the port is 5901 you connect to hostname.com:1 & 5902 you connect to hostname.com:2
I'm not sure if I am reading this right and my apologies if I'm stating the obvious.
If you want to use VNC on your PDA you will also need to install VNC on your actual server and configure as a server.
Unfortunatly VNC & rdp (terminal services) use different protocols so just changing the port number to match won't work.
RDP/Terminal service is included in Windows XP & 2003/2000 (if installed/configured) VNC is a third party application.
i think were a bit lost here
anyway, heres some ver of vnc for pocketPC.s
some free ones
http://home.utah.edu/~mcm5849/wince/vnc.html
and some commercial ones
http://software.brighthand.com/product.asp?id=5563
http://www.mochasoft.dk/vncce.htm (the one i use)
personally i like tsc, as you can change the screen size.
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I'm not sure if I am reading this right and my apologies if I'm stating the obvious.
If you want to use VNC on your PDA you will also need to install VNC on your actual server and configure as a server.
Unfortunatly VNC & rdp (terminal services) use different protocols so just changing the port number to match won't work.
RDP/Terminal service is included in Windows XP & 2003/2000 (if installed/configured) VNC is a third party application.
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You are absolutely right and you don't have to apologize because the stupid one is me I really didn't know that VNC server shall be also installed on desktop. But in that case there is no solution for my problem as my employer will not install any VNC on his server.
marclouis said:
...personally i like tsc, as you can change the screen size.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
Viktor: there aren't (m)any non Microsoft terminal services clients.
The standard PDA client is not very good, limited resolution, not fullscreen.
You can use VJFullScreenTSC to get rid of the softkeys/make it fullscreen, but a better or additional solution is to use Nydiot or similar virtual screen manager to extend your screen resolution. This apparently lets you use a much bigger screen resolution on TSC.
If you have access to the server, you can just run the VNC server yourself. It's a tiny program, no complex installation, I use it to control my PCs from work.
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PS The Crossbow Remote Desktop client is much better apparently. If you can wait, it'll be worth it.
Give Mocha Remote Desktop a try. It works pretty well and lets you change the port easily.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
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yep, when connecting you have option "limit size of server to fit on screen"
i dont use this, its just too small. its the only time i change my screen to landscape, getting a more useful working area. true, i only want access to a dos prompt, services or notepad.
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"tsc"...do you mean Terminal Service Client on WM5 platform? There is not possible to change screen size, is there?
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sorry viktor, yes tsc=terminal service client
Another option could be to install VNC on your PC at work if the admin will allow the required firewall rules.
Then use the PPC VNC client to connect to your PC and then access a DOS prompt, Services or notepad.
Also logging onto the server from your desktop could be possible through the desktop version of Remote Desktop Connection.
I do something similar in that I use the PPC TS Client (& VJ's excellent VJFSTSC on a Universal) to logon to one server setup for Citrix and RDP access and then use the Remote Desktop Connection to connect to any other server/client that I wish to access.
Nyditot's Virtual Display also works well with the PPC version of the TS Client and allows 800x600 & 1024x768 resolutions provided Virtual Display is set to those resolutions prior to connecting. You would then use virtual display's navigation controls to move around your desktop
(VJFSTSC works but hiding the SIP is a bit hit & miss because with nyditot VJTSC required menu options to be selected twice and you often end up with the top start bar returning.)
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yep, when connecting you have option "limit size of server to fit on screen"
i dont use this, its just too small...
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But that function doesn't "shrink" screen size of the server to fit into my PDA display. Marking this checkbox will only cut the the central (320x240) part of the server screen without any possibility to scroll. So it is even worse case than to leave it unmarked...
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But that function doesn't "shrink" screen size of the server to fit into my PDA display. Marking this checkbox will only cut the the central (320x240) part of the server screen without any possibility to scroll. So it is even worse case than to leave it unmarked...
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Viktor, that is wrong, tsc should give you a tiny little screen, with limited content, but for example if you run cmd or services, you get a usable (non scrolling) screen.
i dont quite know what you want to achive, but a way to get 25% of a screen is to use vnc (server) on a machine withe the screen res changed to 640x480, change your fonts & menus to small. you see where i'm going?
what u need is a DELL VGA x51pda and teathing it to your tytn! then u can access your remote pc and view it just like at your office with VGA display!
this is y i so desperate need a VGA pdaPhone with tri-band hsdpa.
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Hi,
Is there a App like Remote administrator for PC
for the XDA2 ?
something where i can see on my XDA2 LCD a Screen of my PC
desktop and interact with the PC from screen taps on the XDA2.
open folders, start programs, mebe even xfer files etc etc
yeah vncview.exe
works pretty much like normal vnc between 2 computers
One I use is Pocket Controller from SOTI, very good.
I use NetOp Remote Control. Super!!
why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
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why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
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Hi ArticCat, would you mind to make a step buy step explanation on that?
:?:
Thanks in advance.
This works only on Windows XP Professional, NOT on XP Home.
Works with a Wifi card and in the USB cradle, didn't test it yet with an USB BT dongle since mine is in back-order or with GPRS.
PC
- make sure you have administrative rights
- Right-click "My Computer" and choose Properties
- Choose the tab Remote
- activate Remote Desktop (Allow users to connect remotely to this computer)
- the logged on user automatically has access to the pc. If you want to add additional users, click on "Select Remote Users" and add them.
XDA
- goto Programs->Terminal Services Client.
- fill in the name or ip-address of your pc and hit "Connect"
Works fine, but I find the resolution of the XDA II to low to be practical.
Think this would work much better on a Toshiba e800 with 640x480 res.
Enjoy,
Jos
Thanks a lot for the fast response.
Looks like there is something missing, I get a "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection setings, tap setting" message.
There is not very much to configure undet the settings tab, so it's a bit frustrating.
Any ideas?
:wink:
I have no connection configured, just the XDA II in the cradle and it works.
Thanks a lot!
To my surprise it worked as you mention once I tried again. Couldn't figure out what was wrong the first time.
i used the SOTI and yes i can see the XDA screen on the PC.
But i was looking for the same util but the other way round.
i wanna see the DeskTop screen on the PDA
You need this prog: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/downloads/pocketpc/remotedsp_eula.mspx
Allows you to show the display of the pda on the pc-screen and control it with mouse and keyboard.
And it's for free!
yes thats wot the UTIL dose i have now.
but im looking to..
display of the pc-screen on the PDA and control it
This is what you want....
http://www.soti.net/bot.asp?Cmd=Products
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...onId=0&catalog=30&txtSearch=pocket+controller
Arthur,
Let's get things clear.
You want to control the pc from the XDA?
Just use terminal services client on the XDA in combination with the remote desktop feature of Windows XP Pro, as described in the earlier postings.
Or use VNC, you can download the client for the pocket pc here:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
and the server for the pc here:
http://www.realvnc.com/download.html
Jos
hi jos yes you got it
one problem i have is when trying to connect via GPRS i get the msg NO MODEM AT THE OTHER END ?
Arthur, did you get this sorted in the end.
I was already running the server program on my main pc and downloaded the pocket pc vnc veiwer. Cant get it to work so far tho, is there any settings you have to change on the XDA?
Has anyone used any kind of PPC VNC viewer on their universal yet?
Any recommendations? Know of any that work on WM5?
Thanks 8)
Yes, http://dotnetvnc.sourceforge.net/ is the most compatible one, as it's written in pure dot net.
The only downside to this client is that you have to initiate the internet or wi-fi connection manually - this VNC viewer will not try to connect for you. Enjoy
Actually thats not strictly true. This is a great VNC Client and will automatically initiate a GPRS/3G connection. As far as Wifi is concerned, boviously it won't switch on the wifi automatically if it is off.
Only thing I found was it was slower than other PPC versions, but it has so many useful features, portrait/landscape orientation, client side and server side scaling, full screen mode, right mouse click etc...that I am prepared tom put up with the speed deficit.
Incidentally you can speed up the automation process by saving a site with username and password as a file, so that you can automatically launch it without typing in the address or password. You can also add that file to the end of the VNC Viewer program shortcut, then copy it to the Programs menu in the StartMenu folder, and literally one click will take you to your computer running the VNC Server, without any inputs (assuming you are not paranoid about passwords on your device!).
I have Real VNC installed on my desktop system and cant access it through my jasjar web browser its just comes up a blank page, anyone know of a way to access realvnc form the jasjar, it would be soooo coooooll
Thanks
Chris
You have to go into the VNC properties on the PC and click the legacy tab - then tick the Only Use Protocl v3.3 box.
It wont look good though as WM5 uses pixel doubling by default so everything will be big If possible, use the inbuilt Terminal Service client (ie if your PC is running XP, 2003 or 2000 server) or see the below link which tells you how to hack pocketpc apps to enable them for VGA resolution;
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?threadid=105793
Good luck!
Alternatively you could get rid of VNC and register with www.logmein.com which works like a dream through my XDA IIi
VNC
Just found this and it works perfectly and is excellent to look at too,
http://dotnetvnc.sourceforge.net/
Cheers
Chris
I am using the .NET VNC Viewer 1.0.1.16.
Was working fine with VNC Server Free Edition, v4.1.1 but settings imported to 3.3.
However, all of a sudden one night - and no settings had been changed - I get a message on my Exec saying "The server is not a VNC server!"
The IPs are the same, the MAC addresses are the same. Nothing changed from one night to the other, yet now I cannot access despite reinstalling the server side software. Anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Ant
bn632189 said:
If possible, use the inbuilt Terminal Service client (ie if your PC is running XP, 2003 or 2000 server)
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Does XP have Terminal Server capabilities?!
How does one run a Terminal Server on XP Pro?
I've set up LogMeIn, but it's left me dissatisfied. I don't like the fact that it's website based, and it's a little slow for my tastes.
I've attempted VNC and Remote Desktop but, sadly, it's a little over my head. I'm by no means a noobie, but I've never dabbled in remote desktop type work before.
Is there a simple tutorial for setting up VNC or Remote Desktop clients for the Wizard? I could really use one. I've been trying to search for it for a few days, and I turned up absolute zilch.
Thanks!
both VNC and remote desktop would need to be enabled on your workstation / server / computer and make sure that either the required ports for VNC (port 5900+) and Remote Desktop Connection (port 3389) and open your firewall or the windows firewall is turned off.
if you are trying to use VNC / RDP, using your GPRS/EDGE connection then there's more tweaking which needs to be done ... this would entail you to go to your router/firewall and open ports 5900 (VNC) and 3389 (Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Connection) and point these ports to the right IP Address (which would be the IP address of your workstation).
if you have any questions about remote access just email me back ... i use my XDA Exec, Qtek 8500 and all the other PDA's i have to access my network at the office as well as at my clients all the time ... both through VNC and through Remote Desktop Connection ....
what program do you need on the wizard to do remote desktop?
right now i can remote desktop to my work computer from my laptop at home. is it similar? thank you.
There should be a remote desktop client already installed on your Wizard. Look in the Programs folder for "Terminal Services Client". It works pretty much the same as it does on big Windows.
As dumb as this is, I really need a step by step to help me out on this subject.
I'm unsure what is needed to get the Remote Desktop Client working. I have XP Pro. I have a "Remote" section under my home computers system properties. However, the one tutorial I could find asked me to go into Add/Remove Windows Devices and apply some sort of setting there. Upon doing so, I was asked to insert my Windows XP CD which . . . I don't have.
If I don't need that CD, I am open to doing either Remote Desktop or VNC. Whichever is preferable, I guess. I don't know which is more full-featured, which one is quicker, etc.
So I need help getting started. What do I do?
Hey Dr.Other
Okay here is a step by step to enable remote desktop on your computer ( much better then VNC in my book but I am sure others may disagree..so in the end its personal prefrence...I just like RD (remote desktop) better cause I can stream music if I wanted and its also encrypted (I think I read that some where) any way here it is for remote desktop.
Guessing you are useing Windows XP Pro
Right Click on MY COMPUTER ( on your desktop)
From the menu that opens up Click (Left click) on PROPERTIES
You will see a few tabs in a window called System Properties
Click on the REMOTEtab
Check the Box under the Remote desktop area that say ALL USEERS TO CONNECT REMOTELY TO THIS COMPUTER (its not in caps)
Next click on Select Remote User and click ADD
TYpe in the users name (what ever name you use to login with)
Hit Okay till your back to your desktop
Phone:
Start\Programs\Terminal services Client
under servers type in the IP address of your computer ( Hint try it locally 1st if you have wifi in your house and then click connect) its a bit difficult to naviagate and the colors are not the best ( which leads me toa question ...look at the bottem for the Q ) but it will do...I have hcked email looked at my fav places for a book name I had bookmarked but forgot etc. its really cumbersome but in teh end it may get the job done. Though Fair warning your icons and stuff will be bunched up on your desktop computer once you RD from your Phone
RD to your phone..... What ? can you remote desktop to your phone ?
I think so...if you enable terminal service port on the device you maybe able to connect to it from your computer ...but I am still trying to figure that one out
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
geekserver said:
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
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Even if you could it would slow the process down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I wouldnt even have a background on as it slows to a crawl.
Finally Microsoft have got their act together and provided a pretty good RDP client.
Crossbow's client is much better than previous versions offering friendly full screen support with which it is simple to toggle betweet RDP Mobile and other applcations.
(On a Full screen RDP session just press the Ok button to be presented with a Yes/No box offering to disconnect, selecting NO will leave the session intact and just , move it to the background without needing to logon again.)
Also from a fullscreen session just hit either of the buttons mapped to the softkeys to toggle back to windowed mode (Start bar visible).
Encrytion has been improved as RDP mobile nolonger requires the connection to be downgraded to Client Compatible.
I'm not forgetting the other documented features such as a coice of 256 Colours or High Colour (16 bit) and the ability to map audi from the server to the PPC.
Considering VJ's excellent VJFSTSC app was usually one of the first things to be installed after a rom upgrade I'm glad Microsoft have made their client not just usable but they have provided a long overdue (No change between 2003 & WM5) overhaul.
Taking things a little further I was surprised that Nyditot's Virtual Display works on Crossbow and the RDP client will allow a 800x600 screen (probably any res you choose) provided that the Fit to screen option is used.
Taz, I was slow to update VJFSTSC because I 'had a feeling' about remote desktop.. I don't know if there's any point continuing with my app, but I can think of some improvements to the new client, so maybe I can move in a different direction.
Many thanks for the review though. How do you find performance?
V
Try to get remote [email protected] 16 colors.
And now for a couple of pprblems with the new RDP Client
Hopefully these will be addressed by Microsoft before Crossbow/WM6 is officially released.
1. Remote Desktop Mobile will nolonger initiate a VPN through the Exceptions list within the Connections' settings. If you need to connect through a VPN you now need to connect to a VPN manually before connecting through Remote Desktop Mobile.
2. The auto fill for the Computer you wish to connect to can be a little awkward.
Once a few computers have been added, trying to connect to an additional computer with a similar name/IP to one already cached can result in RDM automattically filling in the details of a prev entered computer.
Trying to delete part of the pre-empted details results in the whole field being emptied but as you start to type the computer details again the autofill adds a previously entered computer again. The workaround is to enter the new computer name in one of the other fields and cut/paste it into the 'Computer' field.
VJ if you are considering a VJRDM application here are a few suggestions.
1. Maintain a list of computers & credential within your own application so that selecting which computer you wish to connect to will automatically launch RDM and connect to the required computer.
2. Include an option to automattically choose the Internet/Work connection and if your own database of details is maintained, allow these settings to be saved alongside the Username,Password, Domain and other settings.
3. The ability to program a WM device's hardware keys for CTRL, Esc, Alt and other Windows functions whilst using RDM without needing to reprogram these keys at the device level would be excellent
(ie launch VJRDM and the E-mail key becomes CTRL, Home becomes ALT but only whilst VJRDM is active. Whilst using other applications these keys retain their original function.)
4. Finally an option to temp disable push e-mail whilst connecting over a VPN would be handy as it would save activesync closing the VPN connection eveytime it tries to connect and shutting down the VPN.
Even with the above couple of problems DRM is far better than the terminal service client.
Does anyone know of a small application to launch a VPN without having to wade through the Connections' settings?
onlineemails I was about to suggest setting the colour depth on the server but it appears that XP and 2003 have a min depth of 8 bit (256 colours)
Hi all, is it possible to copy all the files from WM6 RDM on to a WM5 Universal, therefore being able to use the more advanced RDM on WM5?, as RDM is the ony reason i would upgrade to WM6.
Thanks
Does anyone know the file names for Remote Desktop in Crossbow?
Hi,
I am looking for a better Remote Desktop client for WM5 on my HTC Hermes.
With screen resolution setting...
Unfortunately I couldn't find anything useful.
Maybe I could use the new client from WM6.
How can I find it ?
Can anyone who has WM6, send it to me please?
Or maybe you can suggesta good client for WM5 ?
Thanks
can remote desktop be used when the universal is not connected to a home network, but through the internet with gprs/umts??
i havent got logmein working with crossbow yet :S
logmein works for me. I'm using Midgets vanilla rom at the mo.
stupid me... it does work with IE, just not with opera :$
can I use higher res than 640*480? my school's term server is requesting a minimum resolution of 800*600...
is there anyway to get wm6 remote dsektop in wm5?
i had my brother forward port 3389 from the network server to my pc and now the remote desktop works perfect with the gprs/umts connection
way better then LogMeIn