I think that a post like this must be done, because I can't find anything right, and i have read many other people questioning about :
my device HTC HD2 Leo must be the best mp3 player!
-2 days ago I was thinking: yeah this hd2 is a great device, but to complicate to do some things and ecc.. I'm not a programmer, i can't do by myself I alwas have to wait to find solutions and twaeks.. even music, i can’t import a simple playlist.. i don't know.. I never try an iphone. Probably is simpler, it's almost a legend, it's firstly an ipod… At least music will be perfect... i will think about..
-yesterday i tried an iphone: i wanted just to test the music software, but i immediatly realized: Wow is this an iphone?!?! it seems a toys!!! and the music soft it's even less powerfull and functional then i was thinking! Always too enphasys on this object! it just slide well!... and i can't do anything different here..bhaaa
No matches, come proudly back on my wm hd2... !! at the end it really eats all other devices,and i have to solve his problem!..
Spending again time in serching, finally i found a way to manage music pc-device for good. yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!! more complex than expected, but damn, it works. As usuall for McGuiver’s breed\wm users .
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The first problem is the music software on pc, you can choose obviously what you want, tranfer just songs has no problem for all. The problem is playlists exporting in ALL cases. I want my (sorry it needs months) mood-auto-playlists, or 4-stars-upper or everithing else both on pc and device with the ability of playing them when i want..but…but…but.. nothing?!?!? Are you joking me?? it’s so strange I want it, without rebuilding all playlist on device?!? Not perfect sync pc-device and reverse device-pc..just my playlist on device when i sync..
unlucky, it ‘s so because of some issues in devices and pc software options ...
1: pc music software in my experience:
Windows media player 12: good default software but limited. Even if is the windows software, now it can't tag music, and syncing it's unable to export the playlist file on device, only songs. (i belive probably we will see a windows phone7 ad hoc software, there no answers to that strange support, probably they want to make wm7 more attractive..)
MediaMonkey: the best music managing player! and not only the best, if you really want to organize music in deep way, it's the ONLY allinone solution. but as for the hd2, you have to search and learn a lot on the net, I had many problems in first experience. In the end, it can do everything on devices and pc. There's just one problem, it exports well playlists(m3u) but on wm device with storage card they were ‘wrong’written. argh! (but now i can solve!)
Itunes: personally i don't like it, but it's a good manager. Nothing really better against the others, it’s just comfortable if you have an apple device. if you depend from it, you can find solutions like pocket tunes software, or else.. but why when i have MM, and many software music player device?
Winamp, foobar, vlc.. they where appreciated software too, but for me MM still does everything better..
2: I conclusively choose MM. But how export well playlists? The problem remain that when I export a playlist, MM can’t recognize the songs file path written in playlists. So you’ll have readable lists imported, without the right file association. If you look in playlists opening them with notepad, songs playlists path will be: music\artist\album\song ..instead of the right (for most device player) storage card\music\artist\album\ songs…
In these way the only device software able to read these ‘wrong’ playlists will be that great free software called S2p from A_C, that can be extended with S2U2too. It works well, and probably on any wm device, but in my opinion on my Hd2 I would like something even better if possible..
I took a look on other software, and even if they are not all free, they all have their + and -. Playlists are featured not so much and well too.. Between them I personally prefer these two:
Pocket Player: the best in general,scrolling ,playlist,nowplaying,ratings,albumart..
haven't tried with 10 gigs jet, but it’s really the most powerful, usable, music oriented one.. even if some things are still not perfect, I hope they will be fixed on 4.2 release. It reads M3U playlists and other.
Htc audio manager(manila/sense music tab): It’s the only one with that beautiful landscape mode. - : must be tweaked to scan the right folder on SD, navigation has not alphabet scroll, and at the end I think that PP works better, but it’s good and already installed. It reads just ASX playlists file.
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Converting:
Everithing you choose, the important is to understand the right file format for playlists on your device player. HTC->asx, PP->m3u, others->…………. And converting will make you free
As said the only auto-exportable playlists files, seems to come only with MM, and being my player I’ll work with these. It ‘s stupidly complex, I have to admit, but … works! Hoping that someone in future could make it simpler (in MM or in wm devices, please!!):
After I sync device with MM importing mp3s and playlists files, written playlists’ songs path, as said, will be readable but wrong\incomplete for all player except s2p. And all the other players remain unusable in this way.
To solve, the only solution I found is to convert that file in working one, and you need two tools:
-m3uToAsxConverter (for pc) http://electron.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29731
-and PlaylistManager (on device) i don’t remember link, sorry( Google it)
In this way, if you drag and drop the imported-device-not-working-m3uplaylist-file ( that has not ‘storage card’ write in paths) on m3uToAsxConverter.exe file. It will be converted automatically in an asx file (good for htc audio manager) with also the right path rewritten.
Now re-import manually the converted playlist on device, and open that with PlaylistManager.
If you want to insert it in HTC AM, go for file , save as HTCoption….
Or if you want it for others players, choose simply save as , for example in PP folder, and convert the asx file again in an m3u file.
Finally you’ll have all your playlists on device too, remembering ,thanks to McGuyver, to update them when something change on the pc library.
That’s so! Yhahuuuu
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Hoping this could help others, I’m quite a newbie in Wm world, so I don’t know if all this is the best solution , but in all the time I spent searching about, this is the only working way..
Let me know if you discover\do something better please!
where we want to go without XDA !
a big kiss from italy
Thanks for taking the time to share. I just started looking for a solution to this today!
A simpler way?
TommyRose said:
I think that a post like this must be done, because I can't find anything right, and i have read many other people questioning about :
my device HTC HD2 Leo must be the best mp3 player!
Converting:
Everithing you choose, the important is to understand the right file format for playlists on your device player. HTC->asx, PP->m3u, others->…………. And converting will make you free
As said the only auto-exportable playlists files, seems to come only with MM, and being my player I’ll work with these. It ‘s stupidly complex, I have to admit, but … works! Hoping that someone in future could make it simpler (in MM or in wm devices, please!!):
After I sync device with MM importing mp3s and playlists files, written playlists’ songs path, as said, will be readable but wrong\incomplete for all player except s2p. And all the other players remain unusable in this way.
To solve, the only solution I found is to convert that file in working one, and you need two tools:
-m3uToAsxConverter (for pc) http://electron.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29731
-and PlaylistManager (on device) i don’t remember link, sorry( Google it)
In this way, if you drag and drop the imported-device-not-working-m3uplaylist-file ( that has not ‘storage card’ write in paths) on m3uToAsxConverter.exe file. It will be converted automatically in an asx file (good for htc audio manager) with also the right path rewritten.
Now re-import manually the converted playlist on device, and open that with PlaylistManager.
If you want to insert it in HTC AM, go for file , save as HTCoption….
Or if you want it for others players, choose simply save as , for example in PP folder, and convert the asx file again in an m3u file.
Finally you’ll have all your playlists on device too, remembering ,thanks to McGuyver, to update them when something change on the pc library.
That’s so! Yhahuuuu
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Hoping this could help others, I’m quite a newbie in Wm world, so I don’t know if all this is the best solution , but in all the time I spent searching about, this is the only working way..
Let me know if you discover\do something better please!
where we want to go without XDA !
a big kiss from italy
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The path in the .m3u is dependent on where you tell MM to save it. So I moved all my files to a folder in this path on the pc: "c:\storage card\music\ . . ."
Then I saved the playlist to the "c:\" and the playlist now includes the "storage card" part of the path. You don't have to put in root at c:\. I can go anwhere, but you have to save the playlist in the level above "storage card"
When I moved it to the HD2, it did not work! I saved a new song on the hd2 to the same playlist, moved it back to the PC to see why it would play, and not the songs saved by MM. It turns out that MM saves the path as "storage card\music\ . . ." It does not put in the initial '\" in the path. It should be "\storage card\music\ . . ."
So, now after I save the play list with MM to c:\
1. Open playlist with notepad
2. type Ctrl+H (Replace)
3. type "storage" in 'Find What'
4. type "\storage" in 'Replace with'
5. select 'Replace all'
6. save the file
7. sync to hd2
That's it. The file is on correct format with the full path. The point is to have identical paths to the music on both the hd2 and PC.
Hope this helps . . .
Strange behavior...
Hi!
I read through your small guide and did not get any answer to my problem so here goes:
I had my songs in one folder on my SD card, i had made two playlists.
Then without removing thoose two playlists i moved my whole music folder into where it should be in My Documents/Min Musik <-- Swedish path!
Now to my problem, as you can see in the picture i have two playlists with a different icon (Blandat and Sade) on it, thoose to is not removeable
why and how can i remove them manualy? I have searched through my whole device without finding them.
Please can you help me...
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I use Windows media player to hold my music and playlist on my PC, i then make an auto sync of my HD2 with wmp for all my playlists and they all work perfect in sense?
my music AND my playlists on my PC gets transferred and recognized perfectly?!?
EDIT: by the way, for tagging my mp3's with information AND build in image witch also gets shown everytime in sense, i use NCH stamp id3 tag editor.. works like a charm
low-dogg said:
I use Windows media player to hold my music and playlist on my PC, i then make an auto sync of my HD2 with wmp for all my playlists and they all work perfect in sense?
my music AND my playlists on my PC gets transferred and recognized perfectly?!?
EDIT: by the way, for tagging my mp3's with information AND build in image witch also gets shown everytime in sense, i use NCH stamp id3 tag editor.. works like a charm
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dogg,
Thanks for sharing. Could you please share versions of wmp on pc? ALso, what type of playlist (.asx, .m3u, etc) is created on PC? does it sync as-is, or converted to another type on hd2? Also, what is the folder structure of your music (and playlists) on both PC and HD2?
Thanks . . .
This is my solution for those who use Itunes and especially those who prefer to use the simplicity of the unix platform within the mac.
The software for syncing my music is called double twist which runs both on Mac or PC, this great piece of software recognises the HD2 straight away and imports everything from your itune library which you just copy to your SD card. It even now support itune s the Android Market for those that may want to port Android to their HD2 in the future when it becomes available.
Once you have connected your beloved HD2 a sync music panel appears with 2 options, sync all music or selected playlists, I use this section for only syncing my podcasts because that is the only thing that changes each week, this is how I do it;
1. Create a playlist in itunes called podcast
2. start up DT and go to library > music> source >itunes and select the podcast playlist you created
3. Now go to the file menu > library > add to library
4. Now the playlist will appear every time you connect and you just need to refresh this playlist which can be doe automatically in the preferences.
Every week I start up itunes and wait for it to finish downloading my subscribed podcasts and then drag them into my podcast playlist, after deleting the previous weeks podcast. Now just start up DT with HD2 connected and press the sync button and my podcasts are now on my my HD2
This solution is excellent for those who realised that owning a MBP running virtual box with windows 7, best of both worlds. This set up allows you to take advantage of the apple MBP and still be able to flash ROM's from the one set up.
<p><em>hope</em> this helps</p>
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dogg,
Thanks for sharing. Could you please share versions of wmp on pc? ALso, what type of playlist (.asx, .m3u, etc) is created on PC? does it sync as-is, or converted to another type on hd2? Also, what is the folder structure of your music (and playlists) on both PC and HD2?
Thanks . . .
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This is probably WAY too late, but as I had to sync my first WMP playlist to my HD2 today and ran into the same issues as everyone else before finally working out the secret, I thought I'd update this thread. Best of all, you don't need to download or convert anything, syncing does work as it is supposed to.
- First of all Restart both your computer and HD2 (this is a precaution and can't hurt).
- After making your playlist in WMP attach your phone via USB as normal. IMPORTANT: when your connection options appear, make sure you select 'Active Sync' and NOT 'Disk Drive' (even though this would be a faster transfer the playlists won't come across this way). Press Sync on WMP.
- After Sync in WMP is complete, make sure you ALSO 'Sync All' in Active Sync. This might take a while and may even create an error at the end. Don't worry. If you don't do this, you may find that even though the Playlists appear on your HD2, none of the Music actually plays.
- Launch your HD2 Player and let the scanning complete, but don't play anything.
- Unplug and Restart your HD2.
- Now (hopefully) your playlists will appear AND play.
Ra-ey
Am I reading this thread correctly...
Does the HTC Sence player read .asx playlists only?
If so where does the playlist have to sit for the sense player to pick it up?
If I read this correctly should it go in the phone root?
If so I have a problem: I have placed one there and the sense player can't see it :-(
I am using MusicBee to create and export my playlists in.asx format. I can even get it to map the paths correctly from PC path to HD2 path so may have a simple working solution if I can just get sense to recognise the .asx file.
Any help on where I should locate the .asx file so that sense player will see it greatly appreciated.
I can't even find the ones that I have created manualy through the sense player itself!! WTF does sense do with them??
Regards
Clive
HTC HD2 playlist location and format
I have done some investigating. It appears that the audiomanager does NOT use ASX format playlists, but basically m3u style with just the path to each song, one song per line. The location of playlists is \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\playlists
The tricky part seems to be that playlists are in a BINARY format. If you use Playlist Manager to convert a playlist for audiomanager, then copy that playlist from \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\playlists you will be able to open it in Notepad and it appears to be an ordinary text file. In fact, you can add songs to it in notepad, save the file, copy it back to \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\playlists and after a soft reset the playlist will have your new entries. However, if you were to copy and paste the text in that file to a new text file, copy that to the HD2 and soft reset the new playlist will appear empty.
Examining the files shows the playlists produced by Playlist manager are substantially bigger than an equivalent plain text file. A hexdump shows that each character is padded by a hex 00, and there is some extra stuff at the start.
In short, Playlist manager (http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82) is the way to go. Make plain m3u playlists (making sure the path is relative to your phone, not your pc, as described in other posts), open them in playlist manager and use it to export them to HTC audiomanager - then soft reboot.
BTW, playlists made this way can't be edited in the phone. Changes will be lost when you reset. Deleting them seems to be a bit tricky, too.
Edit: Playlists created on the phone are stored in a single binary file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\AdioManager_Eng.vol
Does anyone have a good recommendation for syncing iTunes playlists? I've been doing some google searching but haven't found a solid answer. I've tried a program called TuneSync which is suppose to sync playlists OTA.
It seems to only partially work for me... it has copied the music files over, I can browse them by artist or genre... but the actual playlists don't show up.
Any ideas? TIA!
TAXI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is Taxi?
I've tried TuneSync, and now have tried DoubleTwist. They both do the same thing, I can sync the music files, but the playlists themselves don't show up.
I browse the SD card, and I can see all the M3U playlists sitting there. If I try to open one manually, it says File Type Not Supported.
Does this phone not handle M3U playlists???
Been doing some more reading, it sounds like the SGS doesn't support M3U. Weak.
So how the hell do you create playlists other than manually on the phone itself??? I'm completely blown away by this glaring lack of functionality. I expect this type of behaviour from Blackberry, not Samsung.
iSyncr for Android is supposed to support play lists in iTunes.
It's limited unless you buy it though.
Give Isyncr a try. It's the best solution I've found so far. It syncs over USB it's quick and handles Galaxy playlists perfectly.
The really neat thing is there's nothing to install on the PC. You install ISyncr from the marketplace, it copies a EXE to the SDcard or SD (which ever you choose). Connect the Galaxy to the PC and then run the EXE on the PC. The program opens Itunes and you select playlists.
It has options to remember the playlists and remove items not in the playlists (from the folder you select). It doesn't have wireless syncing but I think that's a small price to pay for the speed.
carphead said:
Give Isyncr a try. It's the best solution I've found so far. It syncs over USB it's quick and handles Galaxy playlists perfectly.
The really neat thing is there's nothing to install on the PC. You install ISyncr from the marketplace, it copies a EXE to the SDcard or SD (which ever you choose). Connect the Galaxy to the PC and then run the EXE on the PC. The program opens Itunes and you select playlists.
It has options to remember the playlists and remove items not in the playlists (from the folder you select). It doesn't have wireless syncing but I think that's a small price to pay for the speed.
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I gave it a try. I'm on a Mac, but same kind of deal, after connecting to the computer I run the computer version of the program.... it comes up and tells me I don't have a valid license. I mucked around with it for an hour, read some support forums, eventually got frustrated with it and uninstalled it (got refund on android marketplace).
So I'm still at a loss.
I'm on mac and isyncr works fine with me. I don't remember what I did though. I surely paid. I select a playlist and it is uploaded to the device. I have to use parallels with kies (awesome work by samsung, btw /irony) but isyncr is ok with my mac no VM needed.
(I'm realizing now I'm not the only mac boy going into android. I guess Mr. Jobs is somehow pushing us out. That's my feeling anyway and sorry for the offtopic).
+1 for isyncr. Works really good on a mac. Supports podcasts as well. well worth the 2.99 bucks!
Does anyone know where, in internal memory or on SD card, the phone stores its playlist files?
I have created a couple playlists on the phone itself. If I can find where those files are stored, maybe I can open it up in a text editor, figure out the formatting/configuration, and then write something simple to generate playlists that work with this phone.
TIA!
davanw said:
What is Taxi?
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Lol. Sorry, an attempt at humour seeing as you're on an android forum talking about that piece of sh1t software they call itunes. You don't have to use it, yet you do?
How about 'get your coat' ?
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iTunes Agent works great!
With any competent file manager app that allows accessing the network (SMB, SFTP, Bluetooth), you can simply copy your itunes directory (or any portions there of) to your phone or sd card.
You don't really need a sync app unless you have a REALLY large library.
Bynar010 said:
Lol. Sorry, an attempt at humour seeing as you're on an android forum talking about that piece of sh1t software they call itunes. You don't have to use it, yet you do?
How about 'get your coat' ?
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Hahaha gotcha. Yeah, I absolutely hate iTunes. But I've been with Mac so long now that I'm significantly invested in it. My library has over 200GB of media. It would be a nightmare to export it all to another solution.
icebike said:
With any competent file manager app that allows accessing the network (SMB, SFTP, Bluetooth), you can simply copy your itunes directory (or any portions there of) to your phone or sd card.
You don't really need a sync app unless you have a REALLY large library.
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Like I said, my library is so large that syncing playlists is the only real way to manage it all. I don't want to listen to a single artist, album or genre, hence the need for playlists.
Haven't been able to figure out where the playlists go myself - this would be good to know for future development.
I have noticed that I can add playlists using WMP 12 - the only problem is that if I try to resync the same playlist it seems to append the contents of the existing playlist on the phone... odd. I basically delete the playlist on the device when I want to resync from the computer.
davanw said:
Does anyone know where, in internal memory or on SD card, the phone stores its playlist files?
I have created a couple playlists on the phone itself. If I can find where those files are stored, maybe I can open it up in a text editor, figure out the formatting/configuration, and then write something simple to generate playlists that work with this phone.
TIA!
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Hi there ..
I have a problem with my device. Actually i dont really know if its because of my device or my fault.
I have a mp3 playlist on my computer. Its synced via dropbox to my work computer.
When i try to use my playlist at work, the file never works. Its because the playlist also stores the exact location info,
Not only "be my lover.mp3" it stores as "c:/be my lover.mp3" format.
So my work computer does not have a be my lover mp3 in its C, it never playes.
I remember that in the beginning of mp3 times, i did save playlist files and they always worked in other folders, i could move my albums as folders and i had no problem with that. Now if i move my album folder, the playlist would not work because of false references..
BTW when i try to sync "be my lover.mp3" format (no exact location info) playlist, my hd2 wont accept it..
Is there a way to make my playlists work somehow?
How are you guys doing this??
What format are you using for zune playlists..
I only have 2 playlists on the locations that i'm defining on my zune, bu unfortunately zune never recognises one of them.
I'm using Aimp
Hope this helps..
you make playlist with Zune?
just tested working fine
under Collection - Music select songs, right click - Add to Playlist, select name of Playlist... sync...
dxdy said:
you make playlist with Zune?
just tested working fine
under Collection - Music select songs, right click - Add to Playlist, select name of Playlist... sync...
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If i do my playlist this way, i will lose all my playlists on my computer when i format it.
And it will be impossible for me recover them anyhow.
I am creating my playlists using AIMP (winamp-like player).
I'll tell you how i do it.
I'm going to settings, collection, i press manage for the music folders to be synced..
And selectioning my new folder that i have just prepared with its playlist exported via AIMP.
Right now i have 4 folders marked over there.
My music, public music (which actually are not important at all), playlist1 and playlist2.
My zune starts to process the files inside the folders and then in my collection i can see that playlist1 is in the playlist tab..
Playlist2 is not recognized.. so that i cannot drag and drop it to my device...
Playlist1 is drag and droppable! if ıyu want to delete the playlist including the songs all you have to do is unselect the playlist1 in your settings, collection, manage option..
Why??? i have no idea..
For external playlist support please look here
I tried both PLS, M3U and AIMPPL...
There should be a way.
OK folks, i've just found the way..
And thats easy one...
I'm gonne post a new tutorial for that later
It would seem to be a little "exploring Americas the second time" but i'm so much sure of that a lot of you guys dont know it...