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I have this issue where my music seems to be in a great mess. Is it possible to somehow set the media player to view music folder by folder?
Perhaps you need to tag it properly? Mp3tag is a good program for that, if that is indeed the problem...
Erm...are there any guides for tagging? Because I have no idea what that is. Even though I placed the songs I wanted to together into the same album, I ended up with multiple albums with different songs but same album name,
Well
Computers are like me, anal perfectionists. The name "This is an album" and "This Is An Album" an "This is an album" are 3 totally different things. If they are not correctly tagged, with EXACTLY the same name, they are not the same as far as the phone is concerned.
Tagging is simple, use mp3 tag, loads your songs and fill in the form fields (album, arsits, title ,etc then save. Make sure they are identical for each song by same artist/in same album.
To help make sure, select all similar tracks of the same artist or album together before you fill in that field, that way you ensure the exact same data is input in all of them.
Although it makes little to no difference to WM player I also sort my music into folders.
Music +
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......+Artist1+
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......|.......+Album1
......|.......+Album2
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......+Artist2+
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..............+Album1
..............+Album2
..............+Album3
It's just good housekeeping more than anything and keeps things tidy and simple. Besides, some other program (S2P)actually sort by folder in their library view.
P.S. I also recommend mp3tag, it's pretty close to perfect.
Ah...wait...you mean for the music to be in the same album, the artist must be the same? So exactly what are the factors that determine the music being in the same folder? (It goes by artists? Not by albums? And you mentioned titles. How can the titles be the same for all the music?)
Oh and despite the fact that I changed the tags for the albums, it somehow remains the same in itunes and the Media XPerience Panel. Oh and this is how I change tags. I highlight the whole set of music I want to place in the same album. I right click and press "extended tags". I then edit from there. Is that right? What do things like export/convert etc. do? (Oh and I do save.)
Only if you group them that way, of course if the artists are different just make sure the Album is exactly thesame on each track. I for example keep all compliation/etc albums in an artist called "Various".
That's the issue! I have edited the songs I want together by placing them into the same album by using "extend tag". And yet, The album cannot be found on the Media Xperiance and the Itunes.
No need
You shouldn't need to use the advanced tags, in fact I removed everything from advanced tags that was non standard leaving only album, artist, title, genre and maybe year. I also found that if I edited them directly on the card it didn't work. They aren't updated. I moved them to the PC, edited, deleted any files related to library on the phone then moved the music back.
I don't understand very well your question, because if you choose Menu - Open File - and then select your folder, but don't open it, click on "Read", it reads the files that are in the folder you selected.
But I recommend you doing playlists from your PC with Windows Media Player and synchronize them with your phone. Or there is a nice freeware, MPlayListManager which can create playlists directly on your phone.
Anyone have a Mac solution to this? I use iTunes as my library manager but it seems to me the music information isn't edited by iTunes.
Hi. I'm new to this so apologies if this problem has already been answered. I've bought and installed a 16GB sd card in my HD2 and have transferred a fair bit of music to listen to. However media player is playing albums in an incorrect order (seemingly random, not alphabetical). When I transfer an album from the sd card to the 'my music' folder on the device, it plays in the right order! I've tried neptune which plays in the correct order but that won't respond to my bluetooth headset (when I press play, it automatically uses media player). Now when I copied and pasted an album onto my device which was also on the sd card, media player displayed the tracks twice in the correct order 1-15 consecutively (1-15, then 1-15 again). I deleted the device version and the sd card version went back to the seemingly random order. Can anyone solve this irritating problem?
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Could I just add that when I say the problem is with windows media player I am reffering to the music player within HTC sense. Please help!
I have the same issue, very irritating , could anybody help please??
A poor solution
Right, until I can better this I'm gonna cut and paste the album I want to listen to from the sd card onto the device.
No
No, that doesn't work
Have the same problem with the HTC music application and Windows Media Player. Pocket Player and Pocket Tunes don't have this problem.
A solution that works!
Right, it's like this. Got to settings>personalize>home screen tabs and uncheck 'music'. Open 'Windows media player' either by playing a song off your music folder or adding a quick link to it. Then click 'library' and get it to scan for al your files. Now use windows media player as your player not HTC sense and it will all be fine. Thank goodness!
is there the same resolution for the HTC player?
Thanks mate. Now I can see it works fine on the Windows media player. but thats a pain to use with those annoying menus. I like the HTC player as its very much like the iphone player & its easy to use. Has anyone found the fix for the HTC player or is there another good working player thats similar to the iphone player.
Cheers
Shala
Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
Found a solution for you...
you will need a registry editor for your HTC Touch Pro. I recommend the PHM registry editor (google it).
Locate the following key. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum\Ignored and modify the key Music Gizmo1 to the path you want the music file to be stored. I created a folder on the SD card named MUSIC and updated the path to \Storage Card\Music then rebooted the phone and all is well. Now I can turn off my phone, pop in the SD card and copy all my tunes over and bam.. I have all my songs at my finger tips. I hope this helps
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I'll be trying it later today.
hi,
if this does not work, i can share my application. It scans your music folder and generates playlists in the correct order.
it uses mp3 and wma tags for cd and track sequence. it works well for me but sometimes you need to clean up tags on desktop before copying music.
I have a 16 gb card as well and all my albums are ordered correctly using playlists instead.
I am sure using media monkey to synch gives you an option to push playlists as well and should give desured results.
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Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
I'll be trying it later today.
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Damn, it didn't work. Quite disappointing.
Now how about this app that you mentioned?
And I can't find such a function in Media Monkey, any ideas?
Regarding media monkey please have a look at here:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/tutorial-syncing-music-and-playlists-3761/
You will need to connect the device in usb disk mode and then you can synchronise playlists when uploading tracks.
I will upload the application later on today or earlier tomorrow morning. I would however recommend the option above first as the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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They are. I'm also picky.
But yeah, the Media Monkey solution does sound smoother, I will try it out.
Thanks.
Hi again,
I have attached the files to this post. I still think, if Media Monkey option works for you thats the way to go. But this little tool helped me with the track order issues I had.
If your files are not in \Storage Card\music folder, you will need to set the location using the botton next to the text box.
Then you need to point the location to save the playlists. For me "\storage card\playlists" worked with every version of manila I used (Polaris, Diamond, HD, HD2)
It only supports mp3 and wma so there isnt much point to add more extensions, however you can remove one to exclude files of that extension.
Once all set up, you need to chose file - > Create playlists and application will scan your files and save the playlists in desired location.
I am using it with 16GB card and on Hd2 its pretty fast.
Here are some limitations:
1 - Extra information is created in the palylist file but still, when you select the playlist in manila player, it does not show fields like artist.
2 - Although some tags are valid, they cause errors in the application. I have some very old track I converted from CD's records mid/late 90s and if I see the issue on the mobile, I just run an application like Musicbrainz Picard to reftesh the tags and it all working again.
3 - If you have multi cd albums and disc numbers are not tagged, the track order may not be correct.
I always use usb mode to copy tracks and for me this tool works good enough to create the playlists the way I want to listen.
Hope it helps someone.
Simple Fix that worked for me
I to had the same problem with CD coming up in the wrong order in the player in HTC sense. When I checked what CD's were in the wrong order I noticed that they were all ones I had purchased off itunes and that the track information wasn't being picked up by my windows desktop. So i converted all my itunes music to MP3s using real player converter and now all of my library is in the correct order.
Hello,
I have the same problem. However, the tags are properly showing in all of these software :
MusicBrainz Picard
Windows Media Player
Windows 7 properties
So the track numbers seem to be correctly assigned. But still, the album tracks don't appear in the correct order for several albums in the HTC audio software.
The playlist utility keeps crashing on me, too.
By the way the HTC support regarding this issue is *terrible*, they keep telling me that the player sorts the music by "last time you played it". Nope. It doesn't. If so, when I play a single track, it would either pop at first place in the album or last place, depending on what they meant in their ballistic explanation (1 sentence). It, obviously, doesn't, and a player acting like that would be the stupidest music player in the world.
Does anyone have a solution ?
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
Thanks in advance for any anwsers,
Regards
IcePanther said:
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
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I barely tried and didn't have any luck. Since then I've given up..
Oh, okay.
Thank you for your input, anyway.
This thing with the HTC support is starting to get on my nerves, especially how they still try to convince me that the problem will go away if I hard reset the phone (nope, done two times already due to FixOperaFlash ruining my config, and still the music player doesn't work)...
I have figured a work around to the track order problem.
Download mp3tag you can find it on download.com or just google it.
I opend up all my music and looked at the albums that were out of order.
They seemed fine. I just right click on the track and saved the tag. I though why not nothing else seems to work.
I resynced the album and it was in order!
I guess try it out and see if it works.
S**t man , it worked !
HUGE thanks to you !
By the way I just opened the whole library (which was already on the phone), selected all, and clicked on save so it refreshed all tags. And after deleting /Application Data/HTC/Audio Manager/AudioManager_eng.vol so it regenerates the library, it worked like a charm.
ok so i rly like the htc music widget and app all around. my question is this
i moved my top rated music from itunes to my sd card. in itunes i make it a must to have all my music well organized from artist album and album art.
once i copied my music to the sd card from itunes some tracks have the the info and album art but the majority of the songs are under unknown artist and dont have the right names to the songs. ive checked in itune and they are well organized in there. all my music is aac as well
any advice?
Basically, iTunes sucks.
Works fine for me, try converting the tags, then delete them from the card and add them again.
Use TuneSync.
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Works fine for me, try converting the tags, then delete them from the card and add them again.
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what convertion method have you used? ive tried a few and receive the same results
I'm right clicking and converting to 2.4. All my info is showing up right away.
I've found that sometimes if you use a sync program, it won't change the tags when you sync. You have to delete the file from the device and resync
Before, I also thought my mp3s were perfectly organized with iTunes. I was horribly mistaken. I used Media Monkey to check all tags, as it seems more thorough than iTunes and covers several versions of ID3 tagging.
Then, I realized that you cannot simply put a large number of mp3s in 1 folder, e.g. \sdcard\Music\, or else for some reason the music player cannot generate the thumbnails for all album art (found in \sdcard\albumthumbs\), and you will end up with blank album art for many of your songs. So if you already have your music organized by artist, album, etc., you're all set. But I liked being able to drag and drop my music from my iTunes playlist instead of searching my music directory for songs one by one. So I used the drag and drop method to copy all my mp3s to \sdcard\Music\ (could be any folder you want, really). Then I used Media Monkey to browse to \sdcard\Music\, then I selected all files and used the organize feature to create directories by artist, album, etc. Finally, all of my album art showed up correctly.
I haven't found any way to do the following. (Please correct me if I've passed over anything)
But I'm looking for both a music and gallery app, that allows me to choose the directory path that I only want those respective apps to scan. I.e. if I wanted to exclude my downloads folder from showing up in the gallery. Or my saved voicemail folder from showing up in music.
Honestly I'd love this to be native functionality I'm afraid it's not, but if it could be worked into cm7
Anyway if you have any ideas on how to achieve this, please chime in!
in your sdcard try to find a ".nomedia" file and just copy and past that into any directory you dont want media to be picked up from
unfortunately I don't think that will work for what I want.
Here's an example:
as a result of my ocd like tendencies for music organization, every folder of an album has a jpg or png of the album art in it. (yes I could delete this file, but I'd prefer to leave it on account of being stubborn and I think that's how my album art shows up in the music player.)
If I put the .nomedia file into that, I would lose the image from showing up in my gallery app, but it would also stop the music from showing up in the music player, wouldn't it?
That is why I would love to have the option to have my music (from settings) only search my "music" folder, and have gallery only search "dcim" and say "downloads" folder.
I know this is kind of nitpicky, but I really think it should be an option. Maybe I'm not so much looking for an instant solution, but rather others opinion on whether or not this should be available functionality.
Also correct me if I'm wrong about the .nomedia file in the above mentioned instance.
Late night bump.
Am I really the only one bothered by this?
If you have a .nomedia file in a folder, it will be excluded from music and gallery searching. There is no way to choose specific folders to include with stock apps, so just create an empty file with that name in the folders you want to skip.
Delete the album art JPG/PNG files; all modern music players for PC allow you to save album art to the media a tag instead of a seperate file. The seperate file is proprietary Microsoft invented crap.
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Thanks, deleting the files worked. I'm just trying to remember when and how I embedded the album art into the songs
I still think android could improve how it handles media. But maybe that's just me.
Give MediaMonkey a go, if you're as fussed about your music collection as I you will fall in love the batch tagging and organizing features are unmatched.
Edit: If you want to use autosync/autoconvert in MM it will require the paid registration for gold features. Also, AAC encoder is an extra paid addon... but it can encode MP3 and WMA native. It does ogg, but ogg has non-standard album art embedding... which Android doesn't pick up.
Edit: if you want just a batch converter that can embed album art, try dbpoweramp - mature, industry proven, and also freeware. Its miles ahead the bloatware/shovelware converters out there!
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I'll definitely look into it thank you
ok so basically i organize certain music into certain folders the way i want to listen to them. sometimes i don't even organize them by the same genre. it's just a personal preference. in IOS, i would just make a respective playlist for each folder and i would have my music organized the way i want.
however on my nexus 4, even when i transfer my music by the folders i made, it i would just use the metadata and organize the music the way it wants, totally ruining my structure. how can i make it so the music would stay in whatever folder i put it in?
Uh like you said. You need to properly tag your music files, then make playlists.
Or use a file explorer and play/launch your music through folders. (Lame)
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Uh like you said. You need to properly tag your music files, then make playlists.
Or use a file explorer and play/launch your music through folders. (Lame)
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so sad....tagging my music won't help because it will still use other meta data to organize the music is a stupid way (according to me that is)
i thought android was better and had much more freedom and now i finally use it, i'm discovering alot of annoyances, and even flaws since some features are discarded. oh well, i guess there are plus and minuses to both OSes, so far i still like ios more. but let me use the nexus 4 for a couple of weeks before the final judgement
I really don't understand what you are doing but android doesn't move music files into any folders that I am aware of on its own once they are on the phone. If you used a file explorer they should be on phone exactly where you put them. The music player, any of them as they all work pretty much the same, can display the music files by artists, album, genres or playlists but not by special folder names. For instance say you setup your music in a folder called hip hop, the music player can only show you the artists and albums in there but not the folder itself because that isn't how they are setup to work but the hip hop folder will still be in the same place you put it. Personally I prefer WMP, tried iTunes and hated it, to sync my music playlists to my phone and don't really worry with how it is organized (by artist and album as that's default for anything) as long as the playlists work and sync properly.
Yeah, what exactly is your issue? It doesn't make sense.
If your metadata is screwed up, that's fine, just copy your music into folders how you want.
Then use any of the millions of file explorers available on the market to view your folders and tap on the music you want to play and it'll launch in your default music player (or its own).
Anyways, there's plenty of alternatives you can do with metadata.
If you have an mp3 named track01.mp3 u can name it whatever u want with id3/metadata name the artist "britney spears" and it'll show up as britney spears in the music app.
Or if you have a bunch of random songs and u want it to be "rage music" make the artist on all of them "RAGE MUSIC" or name the album "RAGE MUSIC" then it's all there.
Or like I said previously, properly tag your songs and make playlists like you did with itunes.
I think what it is is that the iPhone displays music with a file browser and not a music player and that's why you can see specially named folders. Don't know as I've never owned one and it doesn't really appeal to me.
Edit: Nope just looked at someone iPhone at work, it opens up a music player just like android. But it must have some type of file browsing ability if it can show folders not conventionally named.
In what format are you storing your metadata? I use ID3v2 tags so that the information is imbedded into the mp3, particularly the album art, and travels with it from device to device. Not sure what Apple supports.
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Edit: Nope just looked at someone iPhone at work, it opens up a music player just like android. But it must have some type of file browsing ability if it can show folders not conventionally named.
In what format are you storing your metadata? I use ID3v2 tags so that the information is imbedded into the mp3, particularly the album art, and travels with it from device to device. Not sure what Apple supports.
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Yeah iphone does NOT do folder browsing in the itunes app. No idea what the OP is talking about. He can do whatever he wants to do and better if he does it all with id3 tags. or simply use a real file browser.