Hi Everyone
Got a Wizard (badged as an O2 XDA MINI-S) about 4 weeks ago but having nothing but problems with the phone functionality.
The problem:
The phone will loose connection to the O2 network. I could be in the middle of a phone conversation for 3 mins or so and it will act like it has lost reception. I look at the screen - it shows the call still connected and the signal strength shows full. Then the screen will say disconnected and the signal strength will drop to nothing yet the GPRS indicator will still be there. I either have to reset the phone or switch the phone to flight mode and back out of flight mode! This problem occurs if i make calls or recieve them.
I bought the phone on the standard ROM from O2 then upgraded it to the ROM version 2.21.4.101 which gave me the push functionality AUTD. I didn't use the phone long enough to tell if this problem occured after the ROM update.
Thanks to Faria and Machinagod's postings on here i was able to CID unlock the wizard to try a different ROM to see if that cured the problem. So i put the IMATE K-JAM ROM version 2.16.9.1 on yesterday, didn't add anything else on it, still the same problem!!
Any ideas anyone? i'm pulling my hair out now!! :evil:
First i would try cleaning the sim contacts, both on the sim and device. Sometimes faulty contacts lead to this problem. (poss faulty sim - have you another sim you can try?)
Next i would contact o2 to check there is no fault at their end e.g. faulty transmitter, computer systems.
If none of these solve the problem then its prob a faulty radio on your device and i would exchange for a new one.
First i would try cleaning the sim contacts, both on the sim and device. Sometimes faulty contacts lead to this problem. (poss faulty sim - have you another sim you can try?)
Next i would contact o2 to check there is no fault at their end e.g. faulty transmitter, computer systems.
If none of these solve the problem then its prob a faulty radio on your device and i would exchange for a new one.
First i would try cleaning the sim contacts, both on the sim and device. Sometimes faulty contacts lead to this problem. (poss faulty sim - have you another sim you can try?)
Next i would contact o2 to check there is no fault at their end e.g. faulty transmitter, computer systems.
If none of these solve the problem then its prob a faulty radio on your device and i would exchange for a new one.
Do you have a SD card inserted ?
If so remove it for the day and see if the problems persist.
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
The SIM card works fine in other phones (i've not had this one for long!) so i hope thats not the problem but i'll give it a shot. I'll try getting rid of all the contacts etc on the sim and phone and see what that does.
SD card - yes i have one inserted now but the problem was still happening when i didn't have one in there.
Any other suggestions?
Thanks for your help so far
Latz said:
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
I'll try getting rid of all the contacts etc on the sim and phone and see what that does.
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heheh i think he means the actual contacts on the SIM! you know the metal bit of the SIM that makes contacts with the pins inside the phone!
not your phone book contacts!
HAHAHA LOL Stupid me!!!
lol thanks for pointing that out. :lol:
right - that didn't work anyone else have any ideas what could be causing this?
meschle said:
First i would try cleaning the sim contacts, both on the sim and device. Sometimes faulty contacts lead to this problem. (poss faulty sim - have you another sim you can try?)
Next i would contact o2 to check there is no fault at their end e.g. faulty transmitter, computer systems.
If none of these solve the problem then its prob a faulty radio on your device and i would exchange for a new one.
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I am having the exactly same problem.
I am going to request a new SIM card from O2 as I think it is due to the SIM. Will let you know my result.
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right - that didn't work anyone else have any ideas what could be causing this?
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Exchange your phone - maybe a faulty radio in your phone. You could try a new sim but as you said you've tried it in other phones and they are ok.
Darklondon - thanks very much i'd appreciate the feedback!
Meschle - i've got to say i think i agree the phone has a problem! i just hope that if darklondon manages to resolve his issue with a sim card mine will work with the same resolve.
I also have this problem. Im on the T-Mobile network in the netherlands. When it cuts off you can see that there is no more radio contact (there is a cross on top). It then resets the radio and gets back. Within 10 seconds of the cut off i can be called and call back????
it's been a month since my last reply and I havenot yet change my SIM yet :shock:
however, i think i found the problem, at least, i think so.
the constantly cut off issue, for me, it's due to the overclocking. initially i overclocked my CPU to 264, which brought the instability to kill the "phone" program constantly. if you have any task manager try to kill a "phone" program, and you will see the signal bar goes off completely.
so, i changed my overclocking to 242. problem solved, no more cut off now.
wow really?! but i'm not overclocking .... mayube i should! i don't see the phone program in task manager?
I can see the "phone" program or say thread with SmallMenuPlus and vBar. And sometimes I can see more than one.
hm, I don't see a "phone" process with Memaid, but I'll try the reducing of overclocking too, since I have the same problem. 240 is the nearest option to 242 though in my omapclock...
Lars
I've found that this problem occurs using many of the AKU2 ROMS out there along with an application that requests a GPRS connection on a very frequent basis (GoodLink for me, MSFP, Agile Messenger for others).
The problem is that the application requests a GPRS connection, and for some reason the device decides to drop the call in order to connect.
For myself, this started happening after upgrading from a 2.17 summiter ROM, and continues regardless of what ROM post 2.17 I use. I've also tried flashing many different Radio ROMS, all to no effect.
I've been back to 1.8, and that's solved the problem. I'm now using a 2.17 ROM that I flashed today to see if the problem persists there.
This isn't an overclocking problem - as I never overclock.
I have a AKU2 ROM installed, though I never use GPRS (way too expensive here). So that can't really be it I guess...
Related
I have this weird problem with the JJ. I have 2 SIM's with 2 different Operators. The JJ works just fine with one SIM .....
BUT, when I insert the other SIM, I can make calls normally, but I can receive only ONE call (i mean it, ONE), after that the damn thing won't receive calls anymore! (Like the phone is turned off or unreachable)
After trying to make calls for several times it does work, but again, one incoming call and that's it.
I tried that SIM in the 8800, it works just great.
Anybody has an idea on what's going on?
Thank you guys..
PS! I did post this in another topic, but needed some attnetion from you guys, so posted it in a new topic!
It is SIM free btw ..
Come on guys, 80 views and not a single reply.
I need to you that SIM in the JJ.
Could it work by a Radio upgrade or something?
OK, please tell us which version of ROM and radio stack you have.
Sure,
ROM 1.30.69
Radio 1.09.00
Thank you Richard.
the reason there are 80 reviews and no replies is cause nobody knows.
this is an anomoly, way out in left field, that I have never seen ever in all of the forums.
1. get a new sim card
2. get a new sim supplier
3. stop swapping them, and use the one that works
4. take the phone back under warranty and have them fix it.
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
SooSpecial said:
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
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Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
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No they aren't ... I tried to hard reset the Universal with that SIM installed, nothing changed, still can't receive calls.
And once the problem happens, GPRS won't connect as well..
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
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Already called them, they can do nothing about it, I traced our mail server using their GPRS, it stops some where is London! :lol:
I will try to down-grade the Jasjar with the old firmware. It might work :?:
Thanks buddies!
Can the Radio only be downgraded? Or I will have to downgrade the ROM as well?
You can downgrade the radio only, Find the radio you want on the ftp and then upgrade or downgrade just that
Here is what I tried so far..
1) Installing Qtek latest ROM, still didn't work.
2) Downgraded to Radio 1.06.00 and the problem is still there!! :evil:
Looks like I will be selling the JASJAR as soon as the P990i is here! :evil: :evil:
I suspect troubling SIM is UMTS (3G) enabled, AND has poor 3G coverage. JJ sees UMTS and spends its time trying to connect, but can't quite pull it off. I'm battling with this and trawling this board indicates that this is the issue; weak UMTS which you only experience witht he one SIM.
Using O2 Exec.
Device working perfect like PDA with GPRS & SMS functions but then I try to call it's loss signal. After "call ending" it's fidn signal again.
Already undergo to install diferent versions of ROMs & RADIO. Try to unlock to make sure that phon not locked.
Somebody HELP!!!
PS. Then SIM installed & I turn flymode I can't off it but then SIM is not installed switching performing without any problems.
PSS. sorry for english
Have you tried ...:
a) a SIM by the same provider
b) another provider's SIM
Make sure that your SIM also works in another phone. It may be unlikely that your current SIM could be the problem.
I have also a strange problem when i send an SMS larger than 300 characters it spends me money but it doesnt send it !
Triband81 said:
Have you tried ...:
a) a SIM by the same provider
b) another provider's SIM
Make sure that your SIM also works in another phone. It may be unlikely that your current SIM could be the problem.
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SIM from another cell operator, but it's of course working.
Then it might be a good idea to have your SIM replaced.
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Then it might be a good idea to have your SIM replaced.
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Tested three SIMs from different operators? the result same :-(
All SIMs work on another phones.
Have you tried reinstalling the ROM that worked in the 1st place? Otherwise you'll have to consider taking to a shop.
Signal Loss Problems
I am having the same problems. I even had T-Mob send me a new phone with the same result. Did you ever find a solution?
I am also having same problem, the agency informed me that there is a damage in the internal board and it cannot be fixed. this is rediculous...
Rolland said:
I am also having same problem, the agency informed me that there is a damage in the internal board and it cannot be fixed. this is rediculous...
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bull****!
i sent my pda for repairs (to fix a different problem) and after two weeks they came up with the same answer,
but a day after i got my pda back, i changed batteries and found out it was a battery problem, and not a board problem!
thats a few hundred bucks of differens!
they seem to find it as a "default" answer, instead of saying "we don't have a clue what the hell's wrong".
I have an O2 XDA mini s as its so called, and an Orange Sim (both UK)
Now I can make/receive calls fine, but when I try to send a message, or goto the "phone" option, I get the message below. Nor do any contacts from my sim show up.
"The phone is not ready. Wait 15 seconds and try again"
Does anyone have some advice to resolve this as its pretty annoying!
I did try a search and got no results, so please forgive me if this is a topic that has been given the run around before.
Regards
Sam
Sounds like the simcard is dirty try taking it out and inserting again happens on probs every1 phone sometime.
Another option would be to go back to your cell provider and request they give you another SIM card
sounds like you might not be getting a strong enough signal to use the phone...or send out messages...consider flashing your radio rom to something higher (do a search for radio rom). radio rom flashing usually won't effect the os or ipl/spl...so you can keep all your existing settings. newer radios have more information on towers...so it has a chance to get a better signal...or at least that's what i've been told...
2.19.11 is common for cingular...but there's a post somewhere on changing something that will let you use higher radios with cingular without too many problems...personally, i'm messing around with 2.69.11 (t-mobile) and i haven't had any problems...
Tried cleaning the sim card to no avail.
As with regards to the radio rom, im sure thats the issue as i can make phone calls fine, so im getting a signal. It just seems accessing the sim card and texting is the issue
Its bugging me because its an awesome phone. Im wondering if its due to it being a different network branded phone to the sim card im using...
Sam
Ozington said:
Im wondering if its due to it being a different network branded phone to the sim card im using...
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if that's the case, you may need to sim unlock your phone? but if you're making and receiving calls, you should be fine...
if the sim card is old, or the service provider was taken over...or something of that sort, maybe your sim card has a problem...something like this was a problem back in the US when cingular bought out at&t...the problem was resolved by consumers going to cingular to get a 64kb sim card rather than a traditional 32kb...perhaps something of that sort is happening there?
I suppose that is a possibility,
I will try using the unlocking tool, but im not sure it would be the sim as it is only 2 months old. I just didnt like the phone i got with the contract so bought this.
I will certainly try. I kinda wish i'd just bought the Orange version of the phone
Oz
@Ozington. If you can make calls, chances are your phone is already unlocked. Did you bought this phone 2nd-hand? The previous users may have done something to it. Soft reset your system and tell us all your stuff (especially the Radio/GSM displayed) displayed on the first boot screen.
Alternatively, if you want to avoid all O2 crap, hardreset your phone and during init setup, soft reset it (poke it) just after you have done your security settings. If it is not using official ROM (e.g. no O2 stuff around to be seen), make a guess on the ROM used, and you can also try upgrading an official ROM (safe to do so).
Hanmin,
The phone was bought from ebay, but was brand new sealed, all in o2 packaging, the seller stated it was unlocked. It was all factory packed and the seal wasnt broken..
The Device info is as follows:
Rom Version 2.21.4.1 WWE
Radio 02.07.10
Protocol 413.1.03
ExtROM 2.21.4.101
Does this mean anything?
Regards
Sam
I'm doubtful that it is factory sealed and unlocked. From the information you gave (although not those I've asked for), seems that your phone ROM is a bit, old. Go to O2 webpage and download an update for the ROM (I'm not sure, but I think they have an updated ROM).
To check your ROM version, tell me the battery icon on Today screen, is it on the top left or bottom left. Top left battery icon means it is AKU2, the updated version.
To throw a spanner in the works the battery icon is in the top right?
Thanks for your help. What info did i miss out? (Please bear in mind i have no idea what im doing with the more technical side of the phone!)
Regards
Sam
I briefly had this problem as well. In my case, I could also receive text messages, but still could not send. I changed OS's and it was fixed. The problem only seemed to happen with one of the new OS6 roms. It was intermittent, and even resetting the phone seemed to solve the problem occasionally and briefly. I have flashed my device too many times, but think it was the most recent Touchflo version that had the problem for me. I was using radio 2.69 Ipl/Spl 3.08. I hope this might help. Good luck.
Orange SIM & Unlocked T-Mobile MDA Vario
Hi Guys,
Just a quick note to say that I have a similar problem with my new Orange SIM.
All the GPRS works fine, calls send & receive OK, POP3 email works a treat but no text messaging and when I try Start > Settings > Personal > Phone .. I get "The phone is not ready. Wait 15 Seconds and try again"
I have no answers to this but from all the searching I have done over the past few days to try and find a cure this problem seems to be common to Orange SIM cards. All I can think of is that the Call Centre Message Number needs changing to get the txt messaging to work.
The phone has worked fine on other networks - no GPRS but text messaging & phone calls
Any advice gratefully received !!
Hi guys first poster so be nice
I've got the same problem but came from T-Mobile to Orange.
My IPL / SPL is 1.03 so I'm going to upload the newer versions on the fourm to my phone and see what happens tommrow. Havn't got the time at the moment but I'll post up how I get on.
Do you guys think this is a good approch to the problem I've got?
Hi Sasyboy
You posted just after me. I got my phone working great on Orange now. It has taken me 3 days !!
You'll have to be careful on how you do it. I just jumped in and it caused me a lot of work and time. and a long period where I thought it was bricked 'cos the bootloader screen stayed on and I lost all comms with the MDA
First make sure the CID is unlocked, you must read this:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I wish I had. This may seem a long way of doing it, but you don't want an expensive paperweight do you ??
After you have unlocked the CID and updated everything as per the Dr P stickie (link above) and it is working, you then need to get the Wizard_Love ROM upgrade. I tried after doing all the Mr P instructions in the stickie but still kept getting the "Phone is not ready...." so I decided I then needed the Wizard_Love ROM upgrade. This took me ages to find, I tried to d/load it via uTorrent but only got 25% and then found it on a Russian website - anyway I have it now, and as I said you'll need it, PM me and I'll get it to you.
You will have to download several files and set half a day aside. If you are struggling PM me and I'll get the files to you as I have them now.
I just need to get the Ornge MMS settings right and then all is fine. GPRS, POP3 email, Internet, Txt messaging OK now, SIM manager works fine (didn't even have it before!) and can access all phone settings for call divert etc
Good luck. Any queries I may be able to help, but I'm no expert. I have spent hours looking at this forum and all the answers are there it is just getting them in the right order.
How do all,
Really happy I updated everything and now it all works fine. Thanks to the community. I love this phone and now with updates it's even cooler.
Hi All,
I am new to this forum, however was using my HTC Elf for the past one year. All of sudden I started facing problem in making or taking calls. The Network on the screen remain full and complete still I am unable to make calls (i.e. the call drops, cannot be completed) or can't recieve the calls (i.e. caller gets my cell unavailable or switched off). This doesn't mean it happens always. Coincidently the calls are through without any problem at one go. The Authorized Service center at my city told me there was the problem with it's Network IC (I really don't know what's that) and he suggested me to sell of the phone asap. My cell is out of warranty so can't really offord to replace the mother board. I have upgraded the Radio ROM but is of no use.
Please help me in resolving this issue.
Many Thanks.
Which network are you on?
Do your friends face the same drop calls issue too?
Have you tried hard reseting it?
Please backup before hard reset.
HI Jeremy,
here in India I am on Airtel Network and no one face the drop call issues. This is absolutely the phone problem as the same SIM card works perfect in other phone. I had unlocked my phone, upgraded the Radio ROM and hard reset it, but the problem still persist.
khant007 said:
HI Jeremy,
here in India I am on Airtel Network and no one face the drop call issues. This is absolutely the phone problem as the same SIM card works perfect in other phone. I had unlocked my phone, upgraded the Radio ROM and hard reset it, but the problem still persist.
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Oh.
Mmm, I think the motherboard inside the phone has issues than.
You have tried all ways to clear the phone?
Have you tried other ROMS?
This issue seems to be popping up quite a bit recently. Or maybe that I've just started noticing it since I started having the same problem.
Yes Jeremy. I have tried all the versions of ROMs. And infact other simcard also act same in my phone. Even I believe that motherboard has some issue. The Service center had told me the "Network IC" problem (though I didn't believe that) and to replace the motherboard (without warranty) would cost me 70% of the handset cost.
No point repairing motherboard, must as well get a new windows mobile phone.
So yeah.
I ran out of ideas already.
The only thing I can help you with is to, backup all your contacts to Google Sync, get a new iPhone or O2, than use that same protocol to transfer your contacts and calender data and mails to your new phone.
Cheers.
I am having a problem with my HTC Touch P3450 phone for the past 2 weeks. Although the GSM signal looks good, I am not able to make/receive calls. I am on "Phone" mode (not Flight Mode or similar). Everything else (WiFi, programs etc.) works fine.
My operator is Turkcell and I live in Istanbul, Turkey. The phone was purchased from the United States.
I have done a ROM update to ROM version 1.17.707.2B WWE but the problem still exists.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of problem? I suspect that this issue has something to do with the 3G upgrading process going on in Turkey.
Can you try to use your friend's sim card and see whether it works.
Is it something like a dropped call?
I tried two different SIM cards, one with my operator and one with another operator. I am still having the same problem.
The problem is that I cannot make any calls at all, rather than dropped calls.
Also I cannot take any calls, when I call myself from another phone it goes to voice mail as if the phone is turned off.
I guess it is a hardware problem then.
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I tried two different SIM cards, one with my operator and one with another operator. I am still having the same problem.
The problem is that I cannot make any calls at all, rather than dropped calls.
Also I cannot take any calls, when I call myself from another phone it goes to voice mail as if the phone is turned off.
I guess it is a hardware problem then.
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I think its time to change your phone's radio. go to the elf-upgrading section to find out more.
I have the same problem
Hi, i have the same problem. When I make a soft-reset on my Elfin it has signal, but just 3 or more minutes after i cloud not make any calls and if someone try to call me they receive the message that my cellphone is off. Rigth now i am performing a radio upgrade and i will let you know if this is the solution for the problem, if you are done with this please let me know how to solve this.
Hi I have the same problem with this phone, can some one of you tell me witch is Radio ROM is the best for HTC ELF.
Thank you guys
I think that this is a common problem on Htc Touch, cause i have exactly the same problem.
I have this problem too
I upgraded new radio 3.34.90 but the problem still make me angry
Call ended itself, i tried 3 4 sims from 3 4 operator
Same problem.
i have same problem sometimes network gone automatically but signal shows full but after reset it starts perfect. thn after somtime same prob?
is thr any solution?
same problem here (P-3452 Elfin)
bsnl sim not working
Hello there.....
I am from Bangalore,India. i was using BSNL SIM for 2years. suddenly one day the Sim was dead. i thought sim problem so replaced 2 times after that got AIRTEL Sim. now its working fine. the problem is with 2 or 3 carrier operators. STRANGE!!!!!!!!
i have this problem too nobody to help pelease
tanx
please some one help me.....
I have been investigating this issue on and off for a few months now on one of my elf’s. I originally bought this phone off eBay to test stuff, and found no signal was being received when I got it. The auction did say this so fine. Checkmend says it is not blocked in any country, and is not stolen etc. Therefore, it is definitely something on the phone opposed to networks.
The phone can pick up signal, it noes networks exists, and can identify them, however, when registered and "connected" it does not pick up messages, and when I try to make a phone call the signal completely drops.
I like others have tried many roms. I have even tried every signal radio. I have also tried 6 different working Sims across a number of operators.
Basically, I think this issue is hardware, I mean, there really isn't anything else that I can think off. I have done some reading, and I *think* it may be down to the PA chips. There are 2 off these in the phone, one for Radio signal, and the other for Bluetooth, and wifi. (I think that is it).
These are located just above the battery on the back of the circuit board from what I can see, protected by 2 parts. One removable (two top screws - also contains the speaker) and one fixed into the middle part of the body.
I've done some playing, and it seems may be easy to break, either by dropping the phone, or even possibly by something as little as keeping the phone in a pocket and sitting on it.
I am not sure where I can go from here. I may need to investigate this further, but it is looking like it is going to be a dead end, considering I am not able to BGA solder to replace it, and expect the cost in doing so outweighs buying a new phone. I'm going to look into signal amplifiers, and see if I can find one that’s not just a piece of tin foil, and actually works. It will be interesting to see if that will improve the signal far enough for the phone to be usable once again. I may even just try with some kitchen foil, or by plugging in an external aerial (which I do not have yet, and may be costly, and therefore no point). If the external aerial works, I guess the chip could only be damaged, and not able to get enough strength itself.
This is only a theory on what I think is wrong with my Phone, and may be different to what everyone else’s is. But i thought I should put it out, to see if anyone else is able to confirm/kill my idea. It is a theory after all, they are made to be proven!
If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to pitch them, I like hearing what others are thinking, and it may be possible, although I admit very unlikely, that we could find a resolution to this issue!
Stu
@ashkan62 , can you provide a detailed problem please, this may give me something more to look at that I have missed.
wow. that's really informative. I've done upgrading radio roms too and even the spl. but nothing happened. hope your investigation on this works. thanks for the info.
or how about upgrading the o.s.? did someone tried that? coz I'm planning to upgrade my elf wm6.1 to wm6.5 and onyx 4 to onyx 6. would that work? what do you think?
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or how about upgrading the o.s.? did someone tried that? coz I'm planning to upgrade my elf wm6.1 to wm6.5 and onyx 4 to onyx 6. would that work? what do you think?
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I think it can't harm to try, be sure to follow the right procedure.
Yeah. I'll try to do the upgrade this week. I'll inform you if anything happens. (like bricking my phone. )