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Moving From Program To Storage

hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?

what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....

and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage

I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.

from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice

anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing

also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?

the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM

success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb

Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.

THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers

"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.

move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works

I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.

laura_kim said:
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.

i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"

Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version

Problem with Device Memory (Lack Of) on HD2

I have a very puzzling problem. When I first got the HD2 I installed a few cabs directly to the device. Due to this the device memory very rapidly became used up, which resulted in me having to delete some stuff and re-install to the 2GB SD card. Following this, I think I had about 25mb of free Device Storage on the phone. I now only install cabs etc direct to SD card, today I have roughly 1.4GB of free space on the card.
Imagine my dismay, therefore, when today, having installed 4 or 5 cabs, one being somewhere in the region of 44mb, I'm now completely out of device memory, even though I've installed directly to SD card. My device memory is now showing 0.00mb and I'm constantly getting the annoying 'low storage space' messages.
Any help would be much appreciated.

edit: The 44 mb cab I mentioned has not been installed to phone as apparently it won't let me due to lack of device memory, even tho I'm trying to install to SD card???

Also, when I go into Remove Program setting, all the cabs etc which I've installed from day 1 are listed there, no mystery there! Thing I don't understand is that they are all listed as being installed to phone internal memory. Even though when installed I specifically selected Storage Card and NOT device memory.
What's going on??

Anyone got any info on this please?

Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?

I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons

Bravoexo said:
Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
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Thx for reply.
Yes, and the files which I installed today, and now deleted, were in the program files on the SD Card, but it still impacted on device memory. I've now deleted the files I put on today but device memory is only indicating just over 3mb available. Prior to today I'm sure I had about 25mb free. Don't understand it??

ephestione said:
I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
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Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?

RoN_HD2 said:
Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
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My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing

ephestione said:
My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
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I'm on the stock UK o2 ROM 1.43 which is garbage. Still waiting for o2 to release an update My phone prior to this was the Samsung i900 Omnia which, once upon a time, I attempted to flash with the help and advice of some MoDaCo forum users. Basically I screwed up and had to send the phone to a Samsung Repair Centre. My point is I'm not totally clued up re: flashing/updating ROMs etc. However, I do realise at some point I'm gonna need to get my head screwed on and give it another try. If only to keep the phone up to date etc.

Memory problems on HTC HD2

I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?

sktools helped me free up 50mbs

TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.

work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2

[Q] not enough storage space

i flashed WP7 today, everything went smoothly, and it seems nice and fast but it keeps popping up a message sayng that i don't have enough storage space and that i should delete some music/photos. obviously there's not much to delete so i assume that I'm either doing something wrong or the current build that's available out there can't access all the storage it should have been able to..
any ideas?

Connect your phone and start zune. In setting of zune, click phone, and in a sub setting there will be one called reserved space. Go on it, and you'll see a bar where you can increase or decrease space on your phone for apps and stuff.

great. will try this. thanks!

I have the same issue - Zune tells me that 83MB of memory is available, and 0MB is free. I have a 2GB card in the phone, so I suspect it's not picking it up. I hadn't formatted the card or anything, so perhaps I missed a step towards making it work..?

I figured it out - the first time I'd booted into WP7, I took the SD card out since it seemed to cause MAGLDR to attempt to boot into an old Android port. It seems WP7 will only use an SD card if it was present on the first boot. Reinstalling WP7 and keeping the SD card in for the first boot seemed to do the trick!
I don't know if there is an easier way to tell WP7 to detect an SD card, but this worked for me. Of course, it does involve resetting everything all over again, but at least the activation code works the second time too!

Kailkti said:
Connect your phone and start zune. In setting of zune, click phone, and in a sub setting there will be one called reserved space. Go on it, and you'll see a bar where you can increase or decrease space on your phone for apps and stuff.
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Thanks, I did this and it still wont sink. It still tells me me I have no space.

Improve said:
Thanks, I did this and it still wont sink. It still tells me me I have no space.
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Same here i tried the solution-
It says reserved space 415mb and free 0mb :S- 1gb card-
Help? please? :'(

Same here my 2Gb card is only showing 15 mb of available space and I cant even transfer music or install any apps. can some pls help me
thanks

jessesam said:
Same here my 2Gb card is only showing 15 mb of available space and I cant even transfer music or install any apps. can some pls help me
thanks
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Have you format your microSd before flashing?

point to setting->About
Reset Your phone and waiting phone restart.
Connect to Zune and check your storage spaces.
I did it and have more than 1GB free spaces with 2GB microsd card.
Hope this help!

I tried it still not workiing I took out the SD cards and formatted it still its not working.

Removed

reset
Had the same problem... , solved!
Went to settings - about - reset phone.
Ok, you need setup everything again, but I now have far more than 3gb on a 4gb sd-card.
Hope this will help you!

vickythelizard said:
I had the problem of the phone running out of storage space. (without using an sd card)
It is a very simple and quick fix.
All you need to do is:
1. Sync with Zune
2. Click on Settings
3. Click on Reserved Space
4. By default its set to 0% - increase it to at least 50%.
(This reserved space is for your emails, pictures, music, texts etc i believe)
5. Restart your phone.
You can check the amount of space on your phone by going to
On your phone click on
1. Settings
2. About
I hope this helps.
You will then have available storage.
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I tried it like 2 times still it didnt work

in setting/about: it says..520 mb available (on 1gb card)...but zune doesnot see this even after changing the reserve space setting

tried everything still my avaliable space showing up is around 175 mb on a 2gb card . Even when I take out the card it showing the same amount of space I am pretty sure my card is working and I even increased the reserve space on the zune software.

any news on this? same problem here . I've tried both my 16GB SDHC that came with the phone and my 2GB. neither are recognized by the phone. I've tried allocating more reserve space but to no avail. This is what Im seeing after doing the registry modifications (with or without an SD card inserted on the phone.)

thank you very much... i got it finally......

i formatted my 8gb micro sd card on my comp before flashing.
then i flashed wp7 while i kept the sd card inside the phone.
it didnt format my sd card during flashing. i still have 6.3gb space when i check the space in wp7

ok, it was reported that for zune to work,you need atleast a 4gigs space...will try with bigger card

[Q] Phonememory.

Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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This needs to go in the Q&A forum, not the development forum.

Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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u can try one ap2sd rom capabile or ap2ext.

Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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or try search
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

Yea but i am already run appmonster and i run all apps from sdcard and still i only get 14mb Free and still want to use all phonememory that is avalible.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

ap2sd, data2ext is different

Try the ROM in my sig. 320mb of free storage after you freed up 24mb from magldr.

with data2ext you make an ext2/3/4 partion on your sd card and the phone shows it as phone memory,but it depend on the ROM if it uses data2ext or sometimes you can choose it in a configfile. so just try another rom, my favorite is coredroid, a Desire HD ROM but very fast and with widgets in the notification bar like Galaxy S

Just to make this clear. By internal storage, they mean the ROM of your device. So that means you have 512 ROM. And ROM is the space for where the OS/bootloader, radio, apps, get installed.
Therefore when you say there is only 125 mb space free, that means that the android rom you just installed & bootloader took up the 387mb ROM you so claim to be missing. So is anything wrong with your device? Conclusion: No. Solutions? The people above have given them.

In my phone, when i run appmonster it says:
Phone 114,00MB / 24,05 MB Apps: 49
SD 14,83 / 6,93 GB
Maybe i missunderstand but the phone complain against my phone-storage.

ap2sd, data2ext is different

Installed coredroid and now i dont have any problems with space
Didnt know what the problem was so i reeinstalled another version of Android and it seems to work nice, it is very very fast.
Thanx for all your help.
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