O2 stuff: "Windows\Mobile Solutions\O2ActiveUI" - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I got my Wizard (O2 XDA Mini S) just over two weeks ago.
It came with the latest O2 ROM pre-installed already - so no need to upgrade.
When I first turned it on, it gave the option for a "Basic" install or a "Corporate" install.
After reading various threads here & elsewhere beforehand, I chose to just do a "Basic" install, & try & remove any left over O2 crap, rather than do a Corp install & then go through all the various extra settings to do etc. (plus I'd read posts where people said a tweaked Basic seemed more stable to them than a Corp).
Anyway.
After the Basic install, I deleted the O2 shortcuts from the Startup folder (think there was only a couple), & chose to uninstall "Mobile Solutions O2ActiveUI" using the "Remove Programs" app in the Control Panel.
On uninstalling O2ActiveUI, the Removal app told me that it could not be fully uninstalled, & asked if I wanted any mention of the programme removed from the list. I said Yes.
I then deleted any more O2 shortcuts I could find, including O2 Active, O2 Hotspots, etc., from within the Start Menu.
On browsing through my device, I've found the (presumably complete?) remains of the Mobile Solutions O2ActiveUI folder, within Windows.
It's got the Task Manager, some help stuff, stuff for setting up connections, the Active stuff, & various other bits.
Does anyone know if it's safe to delete this folder & all sub-folders?
Has anyone else been in my situation where they've done a Basic install, & then stripped out the remaining rubbish by deleting the MobSolutions O2ActiveUI folders from Windows?
Will it affect anything? (apart from losing the Task Manager - no loss to me - & presumably losing some of the help stuff). It won't affect the connections, or MMS, etc. etc., or the running of anything will it? I assume it's all just really only there for O2Active, & not needed if you never run O2Active?
I've attached a few screens of the various folders.

Is it really crapware??
Hi....
Is O2 Active stuff really THAT bad??
I also did the basic install but I let O2 Active remain just to see what the heck is it all about. Apart from random closures of O2 active UI, I havent seen a significant drop of performance.
I felt UI providers like SPB's software was more of a performance hog than O2 software.
What all are the alternatives to UI software and why is it mandatory that O2 stuff be removed?
Sid

Oh trust me, it's THAT bad.
When I first got my XDA (a 2i, but the platform's irrelevant really in this), I just did a regular install.
The O2 Active software lagged my device to hell and back, it realllyyyyyyy made it chug, it was horrible to use and a pain in the arse closing every time. The menus: clunky. The options: in stupid places. The menus: badly laid out. Oh, and I'd have to reboot the bloody thing on average once a day, but more often than not twice. It just made it slow to a crawl and then killed it softly. I did end up manually removing the software but when I hard resetted my device (for another reason... I messed up the registry, oops ) I did a Corporate Install and never looked back.
For instance, Corporate Install on my device doesn't do stupid things like hide the standard WM2003 clock on the top bar (the O2 installation removes the appropriate registry entries from the reg hive)... You just have to think, ok fair enough you have a clock on your O2 Active UI... BUT WHY REMOVE THE NORMAL ONE! The O2 AUI has some really, really stupid 'features', and it's a huge performance hog. If you want your phone to run as nature (well, Microsoft) intended, get rid of the O2 crap.

Is it really worth upgrading from the Latest Qtek Rom to this one?
If there is no extra memory etc just o2 stuff then I cant be bothered to upgrade and add all the programs back on.
but if it is faster then I guess I'm gonna have to upgrade AGAIN!!

Is it really worth upgrading from the Latest Qtek Rom to this one?
If there is no extra memory etc just o2 stuff then I cant be bothered to upgrade and add all the programs back on.
but if it is faster then I guess I'm gonna have to upgrade AGAIN!!

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Pocket IE does not like to stay open in the background

I have been running 4.00.11 for quite sometime now the 2 main problems I have with this version is
1) If I'm using PIE & task switch or go to today or any other applications, when I try to come back to PIE it's been closed. I then have to re-open PIE & it loads my default page not where I was. It seems very tempermental in this version closing down whenever it is in the background, but not all the time. Very strange. Since I am using data each web page load this seems like a error that would benefit the service provider. :roll: Odd since I never had this problem in earlier versions (keep in mind all these versions are on the same build) Hmmmm?
2) If I reg hack to put my cookies, history, & temp internet files on SD & I get disconnected from the network it will, from that point forward start using main memory again. If I delete these files from main memory it then starts using SD card again which tells me the reg hack was never actually changed back to what it was before my edit. How strange is that? For some reason it just starts using RAM even though the registry is set to tell it to use SD. Go figure? Again not ever occurring in previous versions.
Has anyone else experienced this? Just curious.
I still think Ozone version was still the most stable minus the Alarms issue which still plagues many of the non-phone edition 2003 devices.
It would be nice to see a ROM version based on Ozone minus the alarms issue & the 2 battery icons w/the new version of WinModem coming from O2 included in the new O2-XDA2. I think this would be an ideal ROM. Just a blind item suggestion... :wink: and of course whatever other little programs can be fit 8)
Try freeing up more ram.
I find if I multitask too many the os will start closing them especially PIE and EzWap when you have
web pages open.
Oh yah cache for PIE dont work too well either it always reload from the net when I go back to previous pages.This is true for the deaktop IE so I dont know what the cache is suppose to do.
For EzWap it does reload from cache but maybe because I am usually surfing Wap pages.
Oh sorry I did not notice your saying that you are alright with earlier versions.
All I can say is its a mystery
Maybe we should start a poll to see how many successful wm2k3 upgraders.

Phone Application

I am new to the whole PDA form so please forgive me if this is obvious but I have not found the answers on this site.
I have an O2 XDA mini s and am slowly getting the hang of it.
Problem: On closing all running programs in task manager I loose the use of the phone keypad, pressing the green call button brings up the phone application but minus the number keys, calls can still be made through contacts. A soft reset is required to recify.
?Related problem: In task manager, there are programs running that are not visible on the list (if I press below the last visible item something is selected and I can "goto" it.
Plus on occation the listed item takes me to a different program ie. selecting media player takes me to Word (no set pattern though).
All help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
StefanF: what task manager are you using?
V
Sorry, just to clarify, PDA is "as out of the box", so just the WM5 task manager.
Thanks for your interest, I have followed several of your posts and seen your site. You have some great programs I would like to use, particually like the big phone buttons and close application tool but am quite scared of this thing.
It may be a while before I mess to deeply.
Stefan: that sounds like an odd problem.
The built in task manager is useful but not very comprehensive.
If you want to view all running tasks etc, there are much better programs out there, many are freeware. If you can't find any better, check out one I've posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=190257#190257
It's not written by me, I've just re-added some features.
Note - closing the phone (cprog.exe) is not a particularly good idea unless you really need it, because some other apps expect it to be loaded (eg contacts)
My programs
Some are ok. You might want to try my program VJOkButt if you just want to close apps to keep your memory healthy. But that's subject to taste and it's not clear how useful - although on the Wizard, it might be helpful.
The big phone buttons are actually just for the universal, it's not designed for Wizard. Basically it's for VGA phones that are using the ful VGA hack.
I've got some other stuff coming out soon. Stay tuned :wink:
V
Phone application
Thanks for the info.
I think, from what you have said, I need to know what I am doing to shut down the phone application as it is never my intention.
Pitty about the big button program. Why is there not full customisation of the screen (as in desktop PC's, can change the size of buttons, scroll bars... both of which are to small for finger use on this)
As a side note, when I am in an application the menus and any selections within make a click upon pressing ie. in word, Menu>Cut each selection makes a click. I have all tap sounds off but the only way I can stop it is to turn the master volume all the way down. Any ideas?
Once again, thanks.
You have to overwrite some of the default sounds with empy sounds to disable all click sounds. At least that's what I did, but that was a long time ago..basically you use your pc, make an empty .wav file, and overwrite the necessary files in your \windows\ folder. If you're interested in doing this and need more help, shout out!
Closing the phone - yes, you would probably not close it without knowing what you're doing. I presume when you're not using the task manager you're not having the phone problems?
Try a program called CETuner to help play around with your scrollbars etc. It's good for modifying colour themes and various settings on the go. Another program worth looking at is Tweak 2k .net.
V
Many thanks.
Personally i'm currently using Magic Button to close apps and act as a task manager. http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/magicbutton.shtml
It allows you to close or minimise apps, and by clicking the "house" icon on the windows bar you can also close all, soft reset etc. Final point on it is that you can see X number of running apps and touch to swap to them, or "hide when inactive" and "keep alive" so you dont close (or even see) some apps - i keep messages & phone in this state to improve response times but close use close all to kill everything else.
Danger using Task Manager
Stefan,
I had the same problem. Ideally you should use Start/Settings/System/Memory/Running Programs to close down active tasks. Yes, the Task Manager does it and you can launch it from the menu, but it is a bit dangerous (as I found out). The Phone app appears in Task Manager as an unnamed icon and its icon looks like the Windows Media Player one (at least it does on my XDA Mini S). Shutting this down will do exactly what you describe (I started a thread called 'Help I'm stuck in Contact History on this).
By all means use Task Manager if you want to, just don't shut all apps, leave the unnamed 'media player lookalike' icon.
Cheers. :wink:
To the original poster:
I had this problem when i got my XDA at first. To be honest, i think its the o2 active stuff that messes up the phone app.
My suggestion is this: back up any important data, then do a hard rerset of your phone. When the screen comes up about Standard, Corporate or Basic install choose the Corporate option and use the passcode 0506. this will allow you to use the phone without any of the o2 crap and since i done it i've had no problems with the phone.
just to let you know, this will stop the phone setting up its own GRPS and MMS settings, but if you phone o2 ar go into a shop then they will happily send them to you.
Hope this helps.
Task Manager or Active ?
I suspect that it is shutting down the phone app that's causing the issue not Active. I agree, get rid of Active if you don't like it (I use Basic so I still get the MMS settings), but I don't think Active is the cause.
Just my humble opinion of course.
I'd completely overlooked that StefanF was using o2. I'm an O2 and Orange user, but O2 active has never touched my system. Sounds like that's quite an oversight by them if the O2 Task Manager allows you to close the phone app... not recommended!
V
Oooer indeed
My friend has an XDA Exec (Universal) and he had lots of problems with the phone app which I strongly suspect were much the same thing. (although his apps in task manager were not unnamed, he had multiple phone apps running). I didn't know the Task Manager was an O2 add-on, I assumed it was a WM5 feature.

A beauty but what a quality beast

G'day all
I recently got myself a lovely HTC wizard (branded O2 XDA Mini S, ). It's a device I've been researching for a while so I was very much excited to try out my first WM product when it arrived this morning.
However, for all it's beautiful design, it's really been a bit of a big pain on several ways. Most significantly and immediately noticable is the very sluggish interface. Some things, like notifications, I can dismiss fine, but the majority of actions, such as starting a program, opening one of the left-hand buttons or switching to landscape mode, take several (maybe 10) seconds to happen and even then the screen will only be partially and very slowly redrawn. This seems to only occur at the 'today' screen (other programs are pleasantly snappy). Anyway, it's rendering the today screen pretty useless and since it's the starting screen it means everything is taking much longer to do. Is this just my device or is this a recurring issue?
Cheers
Have you reinstalled without the o2 Active stuff (basic mode option I think). It the real hog.
Other than tat have a look around the messages is the forum for various registry hacks to speed this baby up.
It does work well, you just have to tweak the heck out of it.
So it's a matter of going around deleting stuff that 02 put on?
Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.
wilesd said:
Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.
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This is exactly what I've done on my mini S...O2 Active is really doggy, the interface looks fine, but mini S can't affort....
Basic intall with SPD Plus work fine for me....I can now play mp3 & mp4 files smoothly with beta player, connect BT GPS receiver with TT5...
To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.
Dunno if this works on the Wizard but on the magician, if you map one of your buttons to the "Start" menu, then you can do a lot of program switching without going via today page - and the whole re-draw of it.
Particlulrly if you chose wisely the 5 programs that you can specify for the start menu.
jacro said:
To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.
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The soft reset method is OK if you don't use MMS as the MMS app will not be installed, if you want to use MMS though the Basic install is better
I cleaned my mini-s the hard way
Hard reset, soft reset, then installed some of the extROM cab files manually and setup the GPRS manually too. Wizard now runs ok, its not fantasticly fast, TTN5 still takes time to load, and incoming calls while it loads cause problems (but thats only 15 secs!). Magic button is great, pick the apps you need to keep open (phone, text messages, etc) and "keep alive" and "hide when inactive" then just use close all to keep the RAM free.
Alright - I'll try one of these hard/soft reset cleans. But...
Another problem I've been having is that ActiveSync refuses to detect my device over USB. The USB connection seems fine (Windows XP detects new but unkown hardware - seems to lack an RNDIS driver or something), but a sync I can't make work.
So I can't install anything again. After a hard reset will applications such as phone and messaging be restored or will the require a reinstall (that I can't do)?
Also, remapping the buttons sounds like a brilliant idea. I'm not so big on IE so if I made that my start menu toggle I could reach a whole load of things one-handed. One thing that oft annoys me is when you have to close a program or dialogue box with the cross in the top-right. Can that be remapped to, say, the voice recorder button so I don't have to keep awkwardly touching the screen?
That Magic Button sounds handy also - freeware by any chance? I'll google it in a sec. It's annoying (well, peculiar, coming from a PalmOS background) to have several applications running at once - all that's needed is the phone/messager apps and perhaps the music player.
Thanks for all yer replies!

Brand New to WinMo, attempting to figure out Omnia 2

I got my Omnia 2 back in March. I am a very beginning user, meaning I do not know how to use roms and cooking and registry editors etc... I was hoping I could get a step by step guide to changing my theme. (if that is what it is called) I would like it to be more intuitive, like the iphone or android. I am also uncomfortable using a registry editor, I do not know what I am doing.
I have been able (with this board and others help) to unlock the GPS, and how to tether the phone to my laptop without using verizon's software.
My main problems:
-the phone is slow, I think because the 10 apps I have installed are all on my device and not in my storage, I have tried to remedy that by installing directly to my storage, but it often doesn't work.
-sometimes after a phone call it shuts down or goes black and I have to take out the battery to turn it back on
-I also can't see the screen in sunlight
-my email isn't being sent out from my hotmail account
I have searched for solutions to these problems, but to no avail. (at least for beginners like me)
Verizon Wireless Samsung Omnia 2 S:i920
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
What other information is needed?
Thank you so much for your help! I will gladly donate to a developers project if I can get some support. (so I don't have to go buy a new phone!)
I've tried answering some of you questions below. hope it helps.
erieboatergal said:
I got my Omnia 2 back in March. I am a very beginning user, meaning I do not know how to use roms and cooking and registry editors etc... I was hoping I could get a step by step guide to changing my theme. (if that is what it is called) I would like it to be more intuitive, like the iphone or android. I am also uncomfortable using a registry editor, I do not know what I am doing.
I have been able (with this board and others help) to unlock the GPS, and how to tether the phone to my laptop without using verizon's software.
My main problems:
-the phone is slow, I think because the 10 apps I have installed are all on my device and not in my storage, I have tried to remedy that by installing directly to my storage, but it often doesn't work.
Try the task manager to close any programs running in the background. That usually slows mine down.
-sometimes after a phone call it shuts down or goes black and I have to take out the battery to turn it back on
Mine too. Join the club. Not a big deal as it will get your phone running faster again!
-I also can't see the screen in sunlight
Have you gone into your settings and adjusted your backlight settings? Might help.
-my email isn't being sent out from my hotmail account
Go into your options in your hotmail account on the phone and you should be able to set up hotmail to be pushed immediately to your phone. you might have yours set to manual.
I have searched for solutions to these problems, but to no avail. (at least for beginners like me)
Verizon Wireless Samsung Omnia 2 S:i920
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
What other information is needed?
Thank you so much for your help! I will gladly donate to a developers project if I can get some support. (so I don't have to go buy a new phone!)
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Thank you for your suggestions
I have the setting to shut down programs when I press the x in the corner, so no programs are running.
Yours shuts down too? I think it is ridiculous! You pay $200 some dollars for a phone and have to take the battery out b/c it freezes? It is getting pretty annoying, especially when I have to make back to back phone calls or am trying to get a couple things done.
I was able to adjust the lightness settings, so the screen is bright all the time instead of being dull. I haven't had a chance to test it in sunlight yet. (It's been raining here, and I work in an office)
I do have my email pushed to my phone, but I just can't send anything out. I tried adjusting the settings, and even deleted the email account and then added it again. I'm not sure what else to do.
Again, I really appreciate you trying to help. I didn't think that getting a smart phone would require so much work and research to get it to act like I want it, which is nice easy push button intuitive. Instead, everything is so complicated!
Pushing the X button doesn't necessarily shut down the program, it may simply minimize it. That's why I suggested using the task manager to ensure that all programs are properly closed. I would have thought that windows would have figured out task management by now, but that's why they have the task manager built in. The phone will lock up only when it runs low on main memory which is likely due to too many programs running in the background. With a regular check of my running programs I find that my phone may lock up only once a week at worst.
regarding your Hotmail, do you have the box "send immediatley" checked? Otherwise you need to tap send/receive to send.
As for the screen brightness, I find mine hard to see in direct sunlight but it's mainly due to the shiny screen protector that's on my screen
The phone is a bit daunting to start off with and I have run WM2003, WM5, WM6, WM6.1 and now this Samsung with WM6.5. be patient as this phone can do alot and the best part is, if you invest the time into it, you can customize your phone to the way you like it, not some arbitrary user interface like some of the others. BTW.... stop reading about flashing the ROM and editing the registry for now. Just play with your settings and the settings of each program to get them working the way you want them to. If you are going to start cooking, I'd like chocolate chip cookies please!
AND back it up before you go too far so that if you screw it up badly, you have a back up to go back to.
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I will start using the task manager from now on.
I do have the send immediately box checked.
I'm trying to be patient lol, but i gotta have it now! Like I said before I have had the phone since March, but have been unable to do a lot of customizing. I am not sure about downloading themes, b/c I don't understand what a lot of them are.
Is there a place just to download themes?
Downloading themes means that you are changing the user interface of the phone iteself. first you need to decide which User interface program you want to use, download and install the trial, then search for a theme you like and download and install that as well. Guess what.... more customizing! Are you not happy with the Samsung Today interface that comes with the phone? or are you looking for a completely different experience?
Themes are like wall paper for the user interface program.... eye candy. Every user interface is about showing you pertinent information at a glance on the screen without the need to go digging into apps for that info. different user interfaces will also require differing levels of customization based upon which programs you have already loaded onto you phone and how you want the user interface (UI) to interact with those programs. This level of customization can be easy or hard depending upon the UI, so be prepared for more playing around. Add different themes which will then require more customizing as a theme is esssentially a customization of the UI. Differing UIs will also chane how you access programs, how you can group shortcuts to your liking, and the general experience of interacting with your phone.
Windows Mobile is definitely NOT a iphone experience, where how you interact is dictated by the manufacturer. Your phone allows for a huge amount of customizing to make your phone a truly unique experience.
As for your Hotmail acct, I'm not sure what else could be going on with it as it's really simple to set up and it sounds like you got it nailed. Is it connecting at all?
Another idea on your hotmail acct... have you tried sending yourself a test e-mail at work or at home? I know with mine there is never anything in my sent items on my phone and it might make you think nothing got sent.
Just an idea.....
i edited the power settings, so my screen is bright all the time and now i can sort of see it in the sun
erieboatergal said:
i edited the power settings, so my screen is bright all the time and now i can sort of see it in the sun
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I'd suggest to set it to "Auto"... that way it will be at 100% brightness in direct sunlight while keeping the backlight lower when it's not needed, resulting in a lower battery drain

my htc hd2 keeps crashing - PLEASE HELP

Hi there,
I have been using htc hd2 for nearly 6 months now and have installed:
cookies home tab editor 1.85
few apps like g alarm, sky browser, torch and a carrera watch
Trouble is my fone keeps crashing and its annoying the hell out me
Can you guys work with me to figure out why? Like can I post something on here that will enable you to figure out why it is happens?
It just keeps freezing and I have to take the battery out and put it back to get rid of the problem, its so annoying...
So any help and advise would be appreciated
Many thanks
P.S. Trouble is whilst I am happy with the way my fone looks now i.e. the wallpaper, the carerra watch , I am certainly not happy with the freezing so how do I avoid this? Please I'm desperate - thanks in advance..
no support?
no assistance?
can somebody please help
I'm assuming you're using stock rom?
I have the same problem with CHT 1.85,; i use the new Energy Rom and the built-in version. Try to use the standard lockscreen, this was for me a help to get less crashes. I think it depends to CHT and some manila versions.
If you want to flash a new rom, here are many threads that will help you.
Yep I am using the stock rom
So are you saying my problem is because of the CHT editor 1.85 I am using?
Should I remove it in that case?
Do you think I should change to the energy ROM?
I just do not want my HTC HD2 phone to crash, it is so annoying - having said that I enjoy the features CHT editor 1.85 provides is there an alternative?
Please help me before I restore to factory settings
Thank you
Your problem looks al lot like thism posted on 27th of august. (If you could read dutch)
Translated:
Have you ever experienced crashes / black screen when switched on or spontaneously restart HTC HTC Sense on HD2? Here is what I call the most important tips that can help the HD2 of his problems to help:
Note: If you have no problems of course you do not have to. But there appear regularly posts from frustrated people who just seem to have problems. Especially for them, it is intended, although the tips can help anyway HTC HD2 less taxing and therefore easier to react.
The cause of the problems related to self-Sense, which obviously does not run well on any machine. In particular, the background activities of Sense (Data services, weather, etc.) could be "sensitive equipment" for problems.
HTC Sense off is a rigorous but effective solution (Settings, Menu, More, Today, Items, uncheck Hide HTC Sense).
A Sense replacement as SPB Mobile Shell can provide a solution when the interface of Windows Mobile will not (and are most of us, right?).
Sense if you still want to keep using these tips will be given from the trouble:
• Remove sites that you do not need from the Weather application, so the phone in the background is less active (Tap the Clock Sense, Menu, delete Cities)
• Switch to reason that data services that you do not need, such as shares, Twitter and Facebook, in Settings, Data Services.
• Put in Settings / Locations continuously collect location data from
• Remove old SMS permanently (usually first removed and then permanently removed from the SMS application, Menu, Deleted Items, Menu, Clear).
Also keep in mind that if you install third party software, such phenomena also occur (the latest version of Co0kies Home Tab -1.8.5 - notorious example is when you turn it to lock screen). Even then these tips may help, but it will be clear that this is not saving can be when there are errors in the software are installed.
One that opinion is outside the scope of this article, installing a custom ROM. I mention it for completeness, but I'm not a fan of a solution that precisely because the category is third-party software. The experiences are varied, and the popular ROMs appear at every turn to new versions to fix bugs. There is a risk that you're digging a hole to the other gap. But who is desperate ....
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