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Slow Down on Hero

Hi all,
Had a quick search round these parts to see if anyone has ask about it, and apparently now
I've noticed that the touch flo interface has become really slow again, most notably when bringing down the notification area; it's a good 5 - 8 seconds before it comes down to where my finger is! Another way I can judge it is by playing ThrottleCopter, any lag makes the game unplayable...
The first time, the culprit was Last.fm's offcial app, and gettign rid of it made it all spring-chicken again, but I haven't downloaded any new apps of late...
*Please* don't tell me I need to reboot my phone every week or so to stop it being laggy; That's why I ditch my Tytn II !!!
Many thanks for any help provided, and if you require more info (I'm guessing an app list, or ROM version [Stock from T-mobile]), ask please!

...Does no one else have this problem? It's really bugging me, insofar as that it's becoming unusable without rebooting it again, and not placing calls when tapping a contact in the call history list.

Do you use Peep ?
If you are, log out of Twitter via the social networks section in Settings and try another client like Twidroid (which uses its own independent login)
Made a huge performance difference to me on the initial stock Orange firmware.
Else wait for the T-Mobile v2 firmware or go MoDaCo.

@Joemax:
I don't use Peep or Twitter, and have made sure it's "logged out" in the settings menu, but can't access the Peep settings menu as I haven't (ever) logged on.
Thanks for the reply, as I quite keen to find the source of the problem. The only other thing I've heard thus far is that rooting the phone _can_ give a speed boost, but it's not been confirmed?

Rooting on its own won't speed up your Hero or any handset as far as I know.
But if you root and then replace the firmware with MoDoCo's you will see a speed boost. His ROM is based on the latest HTC firmware release.
The other thing would be to turn off all the background notifications that apps you have put on the Hero are setup to do... not the stock ones, but apps from the Market you have loaded.
Some of these put persistent information in the Notifications panel and these may be slowing down the handset before showing you the panel.
Then enable them one by one gradually until to find the likely culprit.
Some battery monitoring apps and task manager / switching apps, do use too much of the CPU from what I've read.
Worth a try.

Thanks for the help Joemax.
AFAIK, I don't have any non-stock apps that have any b/g notifications, as there aren't a whole lot of apps on my phone (a couple of games, boring utilities like the compass), but I have got the battery status widget, which may be the culrpit... Fingers crossed

Whenever I have used skype my hero lags. I always have to kill skype even when I exited the app correctly. Maybe this applies for you as well? Did you try to kill some apps (check after each kill if performance is better)? this is how I found out the skype issue.

I have TasKiller Full, and I do kill off apps periodically, and haven't noticed skype in the background, although the Last.fm one kept on coming back even after a force kill .
It's a useful app for me (as I use Skype as my main IM), so I'll onyl get rid of it should it be the fault.
Just checked now, as it goes, and there are no non-stock apps running, as it's still slow - taking about 3 seconds for the notification bar to catch up. As for notifications, the only ones I've noticed since the joemax asked the question is Gtalk, Gmail, and the phone ones (sms, missed calls), and the USB one once plugged in.
Oh dear... it's not looking good to find the source, is it? I mean, short of deleting all non-stock apps and putting them back on one by one...

Questions about the Official HTC Magic Android 1.6 ROM

I just flashed the 1.6 ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565929
And have listed the first part of this post in that thread, but I was interested in getting some answers to the second part of this post (I thought it might be relevant to re-post the first part here, just for reference).
My issues with this ROM (I have a rooted MT3G):
- Can't seem to get Touch Input (HTC_IME) working, and just waiting on someone to post a link to a working apk & files (with instructions). The versions I have will install, but causes a force close. TouchPal (an old favorite from my Windows Mobild days) installs and works fine, but isn't that much better than the stock keyboard (although for the 20-key qwerty keyboard, it's better than the stock in that way).
- I get a force close when I go to edit a contact
- I get a force close when trying to use the PhoneBook app (as a contacts alternative)
- Not sure if this is related to this ROM, but I get a force close with Snap Photo Pro when trying to take a photo. It wasn't really usable on Hero ROM's so I hadn't played with it much, so not sure about this one. The non-pro version is fine (and really is sufficient for my needs).
- Installed apps do not show up in AppManager (even if installed with AppManager). They also don't show up in aTrackDog. But they do appear in GPhoneManager and Advanced Task Manager.
- Get the "Problems loading widget" for the calendar widget, but I never use that so no worries for me. Power Control does not seem to give me any issues.
Also, for those that are having trouble using Wireless Tether For Root Users, I got aNetShare working fine - well, at least it runs, doesn't give any errors, but I can't seem to get internet access with my PC yet. I don't recall what ROM I had pulled it from now.
Overall, I think this is a nice and speedy ROM and would use it, but still prefer some of the "core" things found in Hero ROM's, which include:
- The photo/gallery browser. I'm not sure how to block directories of images in the ROM like I do with the ".nomedia" fix used with the Hero photo viewer). Interestingly, the ".nomedia" fix seems to work fine with the Music Player. If there's a good photo viewer in the market (or a "simple" way to block directories), I'd appreciate someone pointing it out.
- I like the contacts program in Hero ROM's, specifically the ability to sync with Facebook.
- Would be nice to take pictures in portrait mode, but not a major thing (I mean, I can take them, but then they'll get rotated wrong when viewing photos).
- The look and feel of the Hero Calendar is nicer, and I haven't really checked any of the available calendars from the market, so not sure if there's a decent alternative to the stock one.
- Multi touch. Not something I use often due to general lag, but would be nice to use on a zippy stock ROM. I mean device-wide, not just for the browser (like for images).
Everything else that is "nicer" in a Hero ROM, I can find alternatives for (like using Handcent for SMS, or Lock 2.0 for a "slide to unlock" thing, etc). I don't need Rosie (and can always get a home alternative if I wanted more than 3 screens) or TouchFlo - unless, of course, that's what the above apps are tied to.
And finally, what might be nice is a list of core apps that can be removed without affecting the system.

How to remove HTC branding on HD2 (T-Mobile - US phone)

(reposted to a more relevant subforum)
Hello All,
It's probably a stupid question for most of the ppl here, but I need to know how to remove all that HTC branding and their eye candy. I'm working on some software and we will be using HD2 for a demo. The problem is that some phone manufactures hire retards that break very fundamental things in WinCE and that destroys my APP completely.
So, I simply want to know how to get rid of all their junk and have vanilla default WinMobile 6.5 installation on that phone.
For curious ppl: the problem with their software that i have is that the "X" button that meant to do some action doesn't do anything in my app, it simply minimizes it and my app doesn't get any notification that the "X" button was clicked. The Acer phone (also with snapdragon) at the beginning had an opposite problem, the 'X' button would always kill my app even if I handle WM_CLOSE/IDCANCEL messages properly, but with latest update that problem was fixed. Latest update in HTC/T-mobile still has that same problem and I absolutely have to find a solution asap. Using some cooked ROM is not an option (cannot be accepted by the customer).
If it's not very clear what I'm talking about: on some old old htc devices after factory reset I had to hold green and red call buttons on the first boot to prevent it from running operator branding junk. That's what I want to do on the HD2 phone from T-Mobile

Hi,
look at some of the ROMs here. There are some which contains only WM without Sense (what you call branding). Other way is just disable Sense in the Settings for the Home Screen and see if your application still does not work.
But to be honest, I guess it's more an issue of your application and WM 6.5 not a "branding" issue.
bye
Sven

It's the issue of that sense thing and has nothing to do with the os or my app itself. I'm not doing any quirks, I simply follow documented stuff on ms web site and it doesn't work.
The top bar that contains the 'X' button seems to be modified or subclassed by their junk code and that's why my app doesn't receive messages that it it receives just in every other mobile phone that I test with (6 and 6.5 WinMo, for 6.5 Acer s200, toshiba tg01, samsung omnia all work just the way they are expected to work). I absolutely can't use any other rom (I can take hummer and do whatever i want with my test device, but for the real demo at the customer site nothing like that can't even be discussed).

As was said, you can get roms without Sense at all, where Sense covers the majority of the HTC customization, or you can simply disable it in the Today Screen setup. Beyond that, if the X button is your only concern, get a task manger and force its behavior to what you want.
The stock HD2 doesn't have a task manager or any change to the smart minimize behavior, so the message sent when the X is hit should be WM_ACTIVATE with parameters fActive = WA_INACTIVE and nonzero fMinimized. If you're used to seeing a WM_CLOSE message, those are WinMo installs where the Smart Minimize button has been customized to close, rather than the HD2 being the modified environment. The stock HD2 does, on the other hand, have a very aggressive memory recovery config that practically allows only one program running at a time. That aggressive OOM killer is why the smart minimize was left at default behavior.

That's what I figured after testing that it has that horrible smart minimize. What about poor guys like me who don't like smart stuff at all? What that aggressive memory recovery thing you mentioned? What does that mean? All current devices have way more memory than os 6 can allow to be used. All shared dlls in total take like 10MB nowdays that leaves all the apps with like 20MB addressable ram. That's the problem and aggressive memory recovery sounds like some buzz word that has no meaning in the real life (unless I'm a total noob and fail to see the "smart" part in the aggressive memory config
Any way I can disable smart minimize? By the way, I figured that I can workaround that smart crap: I made a test app and it works as expected, the only difference is that my app uses different window style flags which seem to trigger smart behavior.

hattmoward said:
Beyond that, if the X button is your only concern, get a task manger and force its behavior to what you want.
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That worked perfectly!
I tried to check HTC task manager : http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-htc-task-manager-v2-0.html
and it did exactly what I wanted. It did not modify anything, it did not add that manager as shown on the download page but it simply disabled smart minimize thing and it's now working as expected/required.
thanks for help!

HD mini ROM upgrade (for South East Asia)

HTC issued an upgrade today. I think this is what you guys have been waiting for. Check it out. I'm downloading it now.
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD mini
Release Date: 2010-07-08
ROM Version:1.36.707.3

Thank you very much , what the difference from old version?

thanxxx...
thanx for notifying...

Officially, these are the improvements:
1. The trimmer bar will slide smoothly while trimming the mp3.
2. Enhance the system performance and stability.
3. Improves the ringtone sound quality.
For me, only #2 and #3 are important.
I've just finished flashing the phone. Have to wait for start up and bring all my personal setup and data back to the phone.
Then i'll give it a test run to check for any noticeable improvements.
From the outset, HD mini seems to run smoothly already before the upgrade. Although i have some basic complaints about the new os and/or htc custom software.
1. Calendar from the Manila tabs is seriously crippled. When you slide to the Calendar tab, or jump to it from the Home link, it takes half a minute before the week's schedule comes up. Unlike the old WinMo 6.1 calendar or old 3rd party calendars that jumps right up without any delays. Secondly, there's no way to make duplicates of schedules. For example, i have a "corporate meeting" scheduled for today. After the day is done, another one was set for the following week. Normally, i'd just copy from today, and then paste into 7-days after. But that's impossible to do in Manila Calendar. I'd have to resort back to the WinMo Calendar, which thankfully is still lay hidden in the sub-menus, to do this very basic task. Third, it's fixed to show 7-days schedules only. Can't add more days to it. I hope HTC will take a look at this serious draw back for the otherwise wonderful phone. (This disability will frustrate business folks.)
2. Text Messaging is eye-candy. Which is good. Except, there's a huge trade off. First, the Text tab shows only last 25 messages, and not intuitive at all. It's shown in the ancient per message style. No threading. Although, you can click All Messages to go into the threaded format. Which brings us to the second biggest problem. It's extremely slow. You click on a person, and the messages will build up slowly, taking several seconds to come up one by one, depending on the volume of the conversation with that person. Third, and the worst worst part??? The old trusty speedy WinMo's own versatile text messaging app was killed off. So you're left with no alternative.
3. Contacts/People app is also seriously crippled. This used to be WinMo's ugly but super versatile function. The very attraction that draws people to WinMo. New Contacts app is either broken or buggy. You can't use cut/copy/paste functions in most of the fields, except the very basic ones. As an example, you can do the cut/copy/paste with Mobile Number, but not the rest of it, ie. Car Number, Radio Number, Home Number, etc. So it's very choosy. Of course, if you dig deeper, you're thrown back to WinMo's own Contacts app. Saved the day? No way. It's the opposite. The new weird looking WinMo Contacts do not allow any cut/copy/paste at all, except for the Notes section. I wonder why do they have to axe this very useful core functionality. But the nightmare doesn't end there. If you change a tiny thing in a particular Contact field, saving it will take ages. Basically freezing up the phone for maybe a minute or so. Most people would have probably pried open the back cover and took out the battery. (Because mini doesn't have reset button.) It really looks like the whole phone has crashed. Until, if you're patient enough to wait, and realize it's just super slow to save an editted Contact.
Apart from these 3 nuisances. The rest of the phone works wonderfully.
So, for now, i can only resort to Outlook editting on my netbook, whenever i need to work on the contacts and schedules. Then sync.
But this means, i can't do these basic stuffs real time, as needed, whenever needed. I'll have to remember all the changes of contacts and schedules for the day. And then do my homework when i get home. It doesn't happen everyday. But still a big drawback. Information tends to get lost along the way.

New ROM brings more stability to text messaging. Still super slow, but error free now. Possibly no more bugs, or eliminated to the minimum.
I got around 2000 text messages and more than 1600 contacts in my phone. Probably the reason making the Messaging and Contacts app super slow. (In HD mini, all of them are linked. Updating something in a contact will be updated all across the whole ecosystem.)
But i had more than 20,000 messages and same number of contacts in my old trusty Asus P750 WinMo 6.1 phone. And there was no slow down in either Messaging or Contacts apps. Not even editting and filling up tons of data in the notes field of a contact can put a dent to it. The Calendar app was also fast. Both WinMo's own and third party apps.

I'm back again for more observations on the new ROM update.
Thankfully, HTC brought back the "Snooze to X mins/hours/days" options whenever a schedule reminder pops up. Really wonderful. I love this.
Thank you HTC, for solving one of my major gripes on HD mini.
I hope HTC can take a look at my other gripes (see above, plus a slight problem with excel), and incorporate solutions for the next update.
Another thank you note for HTC is that, my first unit, which seem to hang a lot, was quickly replaced with a brand new unit. Not much questions asked. Now, that's quality product coupled with quality service. Very good. No wonder HTC is rising so quickly.

just updated it yesterday from the HongKong HTC website(ROM Version:1.36.721.3), i guess it's the same as the one mentioned in this post.
Infact i haven't noticed any special change or improvement after upgrading my hd mini, the sliding between different different tabs seems to be smoother, but still it'll be lagged when moving from the home screen to 9-tabs screen.
Like bart3385 said, the "Snooze to X mins/hours/days" options makes the schedule more friendly and logical(so that i won't miss up any of the coming event).
But there're still some things need to be fixed.
1.G-sensor seems to be too much sensitive= =(not that sensitive in the previous rom. Not a big problem if u aren't interested in teeter)
2.Chinese font is still terrible(when compare to the Hong Kong CHT rom), not easy to read as there's no antialiasing when the chinese character is small.(still not a problem for those who dun read/type chinese)
3.Scanty ram!!!Need to keep killing tasks.

To prepare for the upgrade, I understand that the personal data should be backed up first. That itself isn't an issue for my friend cos her data is sync'd to outlook exchange, and SMSes can be backed up via microsoft myphone.
What about programs eg bsbtweak and other apps that I installed on her phone.. Do these need to be reinstalled? If that's the case I need to bring the various cab files along as well, when I begin the labourious task of upgrading the ROM!
What she really needs is a way to desensitise the touchscreen. She finds it too sensitive

SN to download...
HT04PPZ03245

Any Asian serial number can download the ROM upgrade. HTC is just making sure you don't use this on European units, which the ROM is not intended for. In other words, avoiding mismatch.
Although i have no idea what will happen if you install an Asian ROM in a European unit. Aside from losing all the European languages. Will it work?

I have error "incorrect vender" when I install the Asian ROM in my European unit. Any solution?

rcsoarer said:
I have error "incorrect vender" when I install the Asian ROM in my European unit. Any solution?
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I guess that answers my question. Apparently, the ROM has to match the country of the device it is intended for.
Have you tried downloading a European latest ROM from HTC site, and flashing it to your unit?

saidean said:
To prepare for the upgrade, I understand that the personal data should be backed up first. That itself isn't an issue for my friend cos her data is sync'd to outlook exchange, and SMSes can be backed up via microsoft myphone.
What about programs eg bsbtweak and other apps that I installed on her phone.. Do these need to be reinstalled? If that's the case I need to bring the various cab files along as well, when I begin the labourious task of upgrading the ROM!
What she really needs is a way to desensitise the touchscreen. She finds it too sensitive
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Everything will be lost when you upgrade ROM. Including apps, configurations, data, messages, etc.
You'll have to reinstall all the apps all over again.
You can use Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS instead of MyPhone. Backup to the XML format, so that you can restore all of them back to your phone. You can also backup and restore your call logs.
I always feel safer to backup things to my pc, instead of the internet.

MR.liang said:
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HT04PPZ03245
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This SN doesn't work, can anyone help?

Use your own serial number. Found in the box or at the back of your phone (under battery compartment).

pls any one successes download SEA ROM from HTC website kindly share here, I have try several time with no luck. always uncompleted files.
I try both Asia1 and Asia2 but can not completed download. (I have my own SN, and I think should not the issued).

did anyone realise that the auto updates and events sync from facebook for every 2 hours doesn't work in the new HTC SEA update?
anyone else face this problem?

esnwizz said:
did anyone realise that the auto updates and events sync from facebook for every 2 hours doesn't work in the new HTC SEA update?
anyone else face this problem?
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Me Too .... The facebook auto-sync is not working for me!!!! :-(

Brand New to WinMo, attempting to figure out Omnia 2

I got my Omnia 2 back in March. I am a very beginning user, meaning I do not know how to use roms and cooking and registry editors etc... I was hoping I could get a step by step guide to changing my theme. (if that is what it is called) I would like it to be more intuitive, like the iphone or android. I am also uncomfortable using a registry editor, I do not know what I am doing.
I have been able (with this board and others help) to unlock the GPS, and how to tether the phone to my laptop without using verizon's software.
My main problems:
-the phone is slow, I think because the 10 apps I have installed are all on my device and not in my storage, I have tried to remedy that by installing directly to my storage, but it often doesn't work.
-sometimes after a phone call it shuts down or goes black and I have to take out the battery to turn it back on
-I also can't see the screen in sunlight
-my email isn't being sent out from my hotmail account
I have searched for solutions to these problems, but to no avail. (at least for beginners like me)
Verizon Wireless Samsung Omnia 2 S:i920
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
What other information is needed?
Thank you so much for your help! I will gladly donate to a developers project if I can get some support. (so I don't have to go buy a new phone!)

I've tried answering some of you questions below. hope it helps.
erieboatergal said:
I got my Omnia 2 back in March. I am a very beginning user, meaning I do not know how to use roms and cooking and registry editors etc... I was hoping I could get a step by step guide to changing my theme. (if that is what it is called) I would like it to be more intuitive, like the iphone or android. I am also uncomfortable using a registry editor, I do not know what I am doing.
I have been able (with this board and others help) to unlock the GPS, and how to tether the phone to my laptop without using verizon's software.
My main problems:
-the phone is slow, I think because the 10 apps I have installed are all on my device and not in my storage, I have tried to remedy that by installing directly to my storage, but it often doesn't work.
Try the task manager to close any programs running in the background. That usually slows mine down.
-sometimes after a phone call it shuts down or goes black and I have to take out the battery to turn it back on
Mine too. Join the club. Not a big deal as it will get your phone running faster again!
-I also can't see the screen in sunlight
Have you gone into your settings and adjusted your backlight settings? Might help.
-my email isn't being sent out from my hotmail account
Go into your options in your hotmail account on the phone and you should be able to set up hotmail to be pushed immediately to your phone. you might have yours set to manual.
I have searched for solutions to these problems, but to no avail. (at least for beginners like me)
Verizon Wireless Samsung Omnia 2 S:i920
Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional
What other information is needed?
Thank you so much for your help! I will gladly donate to a developers project if I can get some support. (so I don't have to go buy a new phone!)
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Thank you for your suggestions
I have the setting to shut down programs when I press the x in the corner, so no programs are running.
Yours shuts down too? I think it is ridiculous! You pay $200 some dollars for a phone and have to take the battery out b/c it freezes? It is getting pretty annoying, especially when I have to make back to back phone calls or am trying to get a couple things done.
I was able to adjust the lightness settings, so the screen is bright all the time instead of being dull. I haven't had a chance to test it in sunlight yet. (It's been raining here, and I work in an office)
I do have my email pushed to my phone, but I just can't send anything out. I tried adjusting the settings, and even deleted the email account and then added it again. I'm not sure what else to do.
Again, I really appreciate you trying to help. I didn't think that getting a smart phone would require so much work and research to get it to act like I want it, which is nice easy push button intuitive. Instead, everything is so complicated!

Pushing the X button doesn't necessarily shut down the program, it may simply minimize it. That's why I suggested using the task manager to ensure that all programs are properly closed. I would have thought that windows would have figured out task management by now, but that's why they have the task manager built in. The phone will lock up only when it runs low on main memory which is likely due to too many programs running in the background. With a regular check of my running programs I find that my phone may lock up only once a week at worst.
regarding your Hotmail, do you have the box "send immediatley" checked? Otherwise you need to tap send/receive to send.
As for the screen brightness, I find mine hard to see in direct sunlight but it's mainly due to the shiny screen protector that's on my screen
The phone is a bit daunting to start off with and I have run WM2003, WM5, WM6, WM6.1 and now this Samsung with WM6.5. be patient as this phone can do alot and the best part is, if you invest the time into it, you can customize your phone to the way you like it, not some arbitrary user interface like some of the others. BTW.... stop reading about flashing the ROM and editing the registry for now. Just play with your settings and the settings of each program to get them working the way you want them to. If you are going to start cooking, I'd like chocolate chip cookies please!
AND back it up before you go too far so that if you screw it up badly, you have a back up to go back to.
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I will start using the task manager from now on.
I do have the send immediately box checked.
I'm trying to be patient lol, but i gotta have it now! Like I said before I have had the phone since March, but have been unable to do a lot of customizing. I am not sure about downloading themes, b/c I don't understand what a lot of them are.
Is there a place just to download themes?

Downloading themes means that you are changing the user interface of the phone iteself. first you need to decide which User interface program you want to use, download and install the trial, then search for a theme you like and download and install that as well. Guess what.... more customizing! Are you not happy with the Samsung Today interface that comes with the phone? or are you looking for a completely different experience?
Themes are like wall paper for the user interface program.... eye candy. Every user interface is about showing you pertinent information at a glance on the screen without the need to go digging into apps for that info. different user interfaces will also require differing levels of customization based upon which programs you have already loaded onto you phone and how you want the user interface (UI) to interact with those programs. This level of customization can be easy or hard depending upon the UI, so be prepared for more playing around. Add different themes which will then require more customizing as a theme is esssentially a customization of the UI. Differing UIs will also chane how you access programs, how you can group shortcuts to your liking, and the general experience of interacting with your phone.
Windows Mobile is definitely NOT a iphone experience, where how you interact is dictated by the manufacturer. Your phone allows for a huge amount of customizing to make your phone a truly unique experience.
As for your Hotmail acct, I'm not sure what else could be going on with it as it's really simple to set up and it sounds like you got it nailed. Is it connecting at all?

Another idea on your hotmail acct... have you tried sending yourself a test e-mail at work or at home? I know with mine there is never anything in my sent items on my phone and it might make you think nothing got sent.
Just an idea.....

i edited the power settings, so my screen is bright all the time and now i can sort of see it in the sun

erieboatergal said:
i edited the power settings, so my screen is bright all the time and now i can sort of see it in the sun
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I'd suggest to set it to "Auto"... that way it will be at 100% brightness in direct sunlight while keeping the backlight lower when it's not needed, resulting in a lower battery drain