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Push email through wifi

I am wondering whether push email is functioning through wifi on the prophet? I have wifi coverage over my city, and would prefer it then getting billed for GPRS...

Push Email client from Microsoft will not work over WiFi, it is meant to generate business for mobile providers
But Siemens and other mail server solutions companies offer push email over WiFi for WiFi Providers - but I think no one is offering it yet.
Note: Be carefull with push email over GRPS. Depending on individual settings this can generate a lot of traffic without downloading a single email. One engineer told me about 15 megs traffic just for polling the Exchange server, without downloading a single email. Of course you can work out conservative settings, but better get a GPRS or UMTS data flat...25 euros here in Germany (www.base.de)

Are you 100% sure of this?
Microsoft's implimentation of Push e-mail uses HTTP(S) so therefore should not be limited to the transport unless the implimentation is restricted on the device in some way?
All the information I have totally contradicts your statement, can you please justify it can as I fear it is absolutely incorrect.

Dear, I don´t have to "justify" anything. Do your own research, ask Microsoft MSDN like I did, and then write about it. Enjoy.
PS: The original question was - as I understood it: Can MS push email client for Mobile 5 work over WiFi.

Why you do not use POP3/SMTP or IMAP through WiFi ?

Thanks guys
Thanks Lucas, I think that pretty much answers my question.
Cheers.

You can setup a schedule like i did in activesync to poll email over wifi every 5 min and disable push.
If you want to use gprs, then just change schedule to sync as new items arrive and enable push in comm manager

What happens when out of wifi range?
Jamichy, what happens if you go out of wifi range with your settings? Do you get an error message or something you then need to respond to each time you are out of range?

Usually, activesync will try to sync, but does not generate any notifications. If I launch activesync, it shows me the time of last sync with exchange server on top line.
If i leave push settings on, and connect to wlan, Activesync Generates an "Attention Required:To syncronise you need to have a cellular network connection" message...
So when I'm at home or work, i disable push, and on the road i keep push enabled. BTW, Direct push can work using both GPRS web and wap settings

Rom 2.26 - Direct push in comm manager greyed out

I just updated my phone from the 1.08 rom and in the comm manager I now have a 'direct push' button but it is greyed out. Any way for me to use this feature?

You need an Exchange Server 2003 with SP2 now that your phone is Direct Push ready with the Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) with this ROM upgrade. If you don't have access to an Exchange 2003 server I believe that Mail2Web can be used, though I've no knowledge firsthand. And I'm sure there's others, just use the <search> here or google it.
Good luck!

yes, it is possible to use this feature with this rom (I am). the first step is to get access to an exchange server. If you do not have a corporate exchange server, I would recommend trying it out with the free service from mail2web.com first (this is what I use) simply b/c it is free. If you need more features later, you can always upgrade... To start, go to activesync on the phone. Go into options and click configure server, and enter your server details (can be found in help on mail2web, or from your corporate IT department) Make sure that it is set to sync as new items arrive... That icon you saw in the menu should be in color... If not click it to enable push...
The way I use it is I have gmail forward a copy of all incoming mail to the mail2web email acct. the phone syncs with the exchange server automatically when I get a new mail. I also sync contacts, tasks, and notes...
Remember that this remains connected to the net at all times, although not using much data, and it auto downloads new mail ect... so if you don't have unlimited data, I would watch it closely, at least to start off...
I would definitly try it out, personally I love it. I hope this helps and if you have any problems please let me know. Lastly I wrote all this on my wizard, so please pardon any spelling or grammer errors...

i planned on using mail2web, but the button is greyed out. wouldnt i needto be able to select it to set it up?

As Starcruiser1229 said, configure in ActiveSync. Direct Push button is an On/Off toggle while ActiveSync is where you configure.
I have my own Exchange server and am not familiar with hosted servers but maybe here at http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/ you'll find what you need.
Good luck.

yes, they call the service mail2web live... I wish I had my own exchange server! anyway, good luck with the setup and if you need more help just post...

thanks a lot. sorry for my misreading. im gonna try it out now. thanks.

Exchange ActiveSync Attempts Sync Every Minute

I'm experiencing a serious Exchange ActiveSync problem. Sometime in the past day or two, my Exchange ActiveSync (I currently sync to a hosted Exchange account with 1&1) starting synchronizing every minute, regardless of whether there was any changes or anything new to sync. It does this no matter whether I tell it to sync as new items arrive, manually, or on some schedule. I have definitely customized my device (3rd party programs, etc.), but the only things I changed over the past day or two was:
- added an IMAP account and set it to check for new mail every 30 mins (it seems this is the only way to enable IMAP IDLE - i.e. it downloads new mail as soon as it comes in) (this is my work email account, so the IMAP server is from my work but because our firewall doesn't allow connections for SMTP, I'm using yahoo's smtp server that I pay for to send outgoing email)
- changed the DNS servers for Sprint Power Vision since one of them was down and therefore Pocket IE requests and other network-related requests that required DNS were taking a long time to complete (see http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-...7-web-access-problems-ie-stalls-locating.html)
However, I wasn't paying that close of attention so I'm not sure if the issue started when I made either of the above changes or not. I've since tried removing the IMAP account and it didn't help. Then I completely removed the Exchange ActiveSync profile, sync'ed up to another Exchange server so I could remove all my data (so that when I rejoined Exchange ActiveSync with 1&1 again there wouldn't be duplicates), set-up the IMAP account, and then set up Exchange ActiveSync on 1&1 again and let it download all my data (by the way, this took a loooong time and numerous syncs). However, when I was all done, it was once again attempting to synchronize every minute. I also tried changing the DNS entries back to "use server-assigned addresses" but this had no effect either. I'm at a loss for why its doing this, unless 1&1 has screwed something up somehow. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated, as I can't let it stay like this since the continuous sync'ing will kill my battery within a few hours. Thanks.
- Marc
P.S. I'm using a Sprint Treo 700wx running WM5 with the newest 1.15 update from Palm. 1&1 is running Exchange 2003 SP2 as far as I know.

Same problem here,
old situation:
using wm6 (hermes) with exchange server which would sync directly on change.
new situation:
using wm6.1 (hermes) with exchange server syncs once every minute regardless of settings.
hopes someone knows any registrytweaks of changes (wm6 > wm6.1) for this.
greets,
Jeroen

Direct Push turned off on Alltel Phone

I'm new here, and I go to Comm Manager on my Touch, and Microsoft Direct Push is turned off, and I mean greyed out. So, how do I set up Outlook, and/or my Gmail for direct push? Now, my data keeps randomly turning off, I love this phone, but sometimes it is bipolar.

The Microsoft Direct Push for email is for when you have setup and Exchange server connection via Activesync.
For instance, I have Microsoft Exchange at my work, and I got the webmail server address setup in the Activesync for my Touch, and now when my work account gets an email, I get it almost at the exact same time on my phone.
Gmail by itself doesn't do direct-push, it can do POP3 or IMAP. So you can setup the POP or IMAP connection via adding an email account through the messaging on your phone, but you'll have to specify when you want the phone to go out and check for new mail. There are a few options out there that let you add your gmail settings to some websites that offer the Microsoft Exchange server connection, some free, some paid, and you can do it that way. Just gotta do some searching buddy.

Setup VPN on HD

I am trying to setup a VPN connection on my HD device.
I have imported the .cer file and installed it. Now when i connect to the internet through lets say wifi, I try to connect to the vpn. It does nothing. I have put the vpn settings correctly. Anybody managed to get vpn connections working on wm6.1 ?

I've had my syncing over the air through my VPN for sometime. Are you trying to sync USB or over the air or both?

I am trying to use the wifi connection

Ok I managed to get connected to the work intranet with vpn connection.
Just a question, Is it possible to download my work emails once connected to the intranet ?
Oulook is set up to connect to an exchange server at work.
Any help would be apperciated.

I was able to read my mails when connected to the intranet through vpn connection using PIE ( webmail). How can I setup outlook to get them directly by connecting to exchange server ? Do I need a 3rd party application ? Any expert around ?

I'm not sure I understand your question, but I'll help the best way I can. Your company should have you set up with credentials to log into your VPN, which appears you're able to do. It sounds like your company also has an exchange server wherein you should have an account that stores your emails, contacts, calendar etc... Once logged into the VPN, your phone, if set up through activesync, should check your exchange account for new email. That's the only way I know of to fetch company email and that's the way my company has it set up. If that's the set-up you're familiar with, but are looking for an alternative way to get your company email then I'm not sure at that point, but would love to know if there is.

Xeon said:
I was able to read my mails when connected to the intranet through vpn connection using PIE ( webmail). How can I setup outlook to get them directly by connecting to exchange server ? Do I need a 3rd party application ? Any expert around ?
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If you can log into your VPN correctly, and your company uses exchange, you can set up activesync to check your exchange server account by going into activesync->menu->add server and supplying your email address, username and password, server address etc...then hit sync and let it do its thing. Once you've done that, you will notice an envelope on your TF3D mail tab, which should say outlook on it and have all of your company mail. I hope that helps.

Sean3 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question, but I'll help the best way I can. Your company should have you set up with credentials to log into your VPN, which appears you're able to do. It sounds like your company also has an exchange server wherein you should have an account that stores your emails, contacts, calendar etc... Once logged into the VPN, your phone, if set up through activesync, should check your exchange account for new email. That's the only way I know of to fetch company email and that's the way my company has it set up. If that's the set-up you're familiar with, but are looking for an alternative way to get your company email then I'm not sure at that point, but would love to know if there is.
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I am trying to download my work mails using GPRS connection and pocket outlook once connected to the VPN. Any idea how to set that up ? Thank you sean3

Your welcome...what I can do is show you how I did it, and perhaps that might work for you as well. HERE's how I did it through GPRS... And if I go over anything you've already done then please bear with me. I first set up my VPN in settings->connections->connections. I tapped add new VPN and put in all my of my credentials, username, password, host name, ticked PPTP, although your server maybe set up for IPsec/L2TP, certainly make sure which one. Then after putting in username and password and Domain I ticked advanced and ticked the "use server assigned IP address" and also checked Use software compression and use IP header compression. From there I hit finish and got out of setup, which took me back to the page from where I started. At the bottom of that page there is a "tasks" tab and an "Advanced" tab. Click on "advanced" and you should next see "select networks". Click on that and from the drop down box under "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should use:" choose "My Private Network". From there I exited connections and went to settings->connections->"Advanced Networks" and clicked on the GPRS and changed the protocol from "PAP" to "CHAP". My phone wouldn't even try connected to my VPN with PAP checked. After I changed this, my VPN started trying to connect. Ensuring that you've installed your companies certificate, you should be able to connect to your network. Once connected to the VPN, activesync will fetch your email if you have exchange set with activesync on your phone. I was never able to set it up while connected to my computer, for what ever reason I had to configure the server through active snyc on my phone. Once you have done that, hit sync and you should be good to go. Although I had to keep trying to connect my VPN over and over before it finally took.

Thank you again. Do I need to allow pocket pc access on microsoft exchange server ? I have done all the steps you mentioned. Whenever I hit Sync , activesync tells me : server is not reachable. Although i tried to ping the server from my PPC and it comes to be alive replying.And access to the webmail is possible so VPN is working fine. Any more hints ?

First, let's check to make sure you are connected to your VPN over GPRS. When you hit sync look at the status bar at the top of your phone. Press your carrier's connection icon, should be the one next to the battery icon or the speaker icon. A bubble should drop down showing your connections. If you see "My VPN", or if you named it something else, in the bubble then your connected. If your not connected, soft reset and try again. If you are connected then at that it may be a setting issue in active sync. What I did, in activesync, was delete the current partnership with Exchange under menu-options-delete. I then went back and configured the server again, this time checking the SSL box under server address. For whatever reason that worked even though my companies server doesn't require it.

Also, when you configure your server in activesync, you will be be setting up your poocket outlook. when you start configuring the server, the first thing it should ask you is for your email address, and then from there your username password and server info. You do not need to set up your pocket outlook anywhere else, to my knowledge. Once you configure the server with your email info and server info, and you get a successful sync, you should see an envelope in the mail tab on TF3d, and the envelope should say Outlook.

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First, let's check to make sure you are connected to your VPN over GPRS. When you hit sync look at the status bar at the top of your phone. Press your carrier's connection icon, should be the one next to the battery icon or the speaker icon. A bubble should drop down showing your connections. If you see "My VPN", or if you named it something else, in the bubble then your connected. If your not connected, soft reset and try again. If you are connected then at that it may be a setting issue in active sync. What I did, in activesync, was delete the current partnership with Exchange under menu-options-delete. I then went back and configured the server again, this time checking the SSL box under server address. For whatever reason that worked even though my companies server doesn't require it.
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The bubble indeed tells me that NSN-INTRA ( Nokia Siemens Networks Intranet ) VPN is connected. However I did no try to delete the partnership with activesync yet. I get a red ! on activesync desktop saying Unable to reach the selected server. Note that my laptop did is not on the domain and I have no access to the intranet through it. Thanks for your collaboration.

Indeed, if your laptop is not set up to connect to the vpn then yes it will give you the red error. Essentially your phone is trying to sync with exchange, but it cannot get through via USB on your laptop. Now of course if you set up your laptop to directly connect to your VPN then your phone will sync properly. In this case, however, if you're looking to sync your phone with exchange via GPRS, then disconnect from your laptop. Do the rest on directly from your phone. Click the activesync icon on your phone, go to menu, options and delete any current partnerships. Then go back to menu, add server, and configure your server there. After you've entered all the email and server info, hit sync on your phone and see what happens. You may need to soft reset. That you have a VPN connection is good. Getting that is from I've found to be the hardest part.

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Indeed, if your laptop is not set up to connect to the vpn then yes it will give you the red error. Essentially your phone is trying to sync with exchange, but it cannot get through via USB on your laptop. Now of course if you set up your laptop to directly connect to your VPN then your phone will sync properly. In this case, however, if you're looking to sync your phone with exchange via GPRS, then disconnect from your laptop. Do the rest on directly from your phone. Click the activesync icon on your phone, go to menu, options and delete any current partnerships. Then go back to menu, add server, and configure your server there. After you've entered all the email and server info, hit sync on your phone and see what happens. You may need to soft reset. That you have a VPN connection is good. Getting that is from I've found to be the hardest part.
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It worked !!! Thank you too much! the trick was to softreset the device. Its been like 5 days I did not reset the device. You see HD is not that buggy Many thanks again.

Excellent! Your welcome!