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Hi!
I just want to know if there is some success for getting Linux on the XDA? I've read that at the CCC Summercamp some people wanted to get starzted with it...
Damn i missed the camp... i live in Berlin, so it wouldnt have been a long travel :-(
greetings.... Jabba
Linux on XDA
Hi,
Just a quick update without any concrete stuff for people to play with yet. Basically good progress was made and a first very bare version of linux on the XDA can be expected soon (say within a month). Note that very bare means you can't do anything with it. However it will be a jump start installation to kickoff porting periperal support to it for anyone who wants to have a go at it.
does it mean that the guys from OPIE will be able to port their system in the near future with these guys from FAMILAR LINUX ?
I've read that they want to program a telephone api as well...
It would be great because Windows CE is not a OS stable enough for a Phone.
I can't imagine I have a phone have to reset every single day.
killercheung said:
It would be great because Windows CE is not a OS stable enough for a Phone.
I can't imagine I have a phone have to reset every single day.
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I reset my phone most mornings. Switch my XDA on to find that cooked in the XDA-Developers Kitchen Screen! I begin to believe that it actually switches off, not stand by.
This in-stability is the main reason I am moving on to a more stable Symbion device for my main phone. Pop a pay as you go chip in my XDA, it is one kick as toy!!
Jabba said:
does it mean that the guys from OPIE will be able to port their system in the near future with these guys from FAMILAR LINUX ?
I've read that they want to program a telephone api as well...
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In fact, there's an app/lib called gammu on Linux, which is a pretty generic phone manipulating/controlling software. It supports various type of phones including different models of nokia mobiles as well as generic gsm modems, etc.
I've written a phone app for the iPAQ (with the GSM/GPRS sleeve) on linux using this library. The current opie ipaq-phone actually uses gammu as well. So maybe at some point we may go from there.
http://www.mwiacek.com/english/gsm/gammu/gammu.html
I've also thought about starting to do a GPE phone too... :twisted:
so it seems that everything which is missing, is a port of familar Linux to XDA...
i really would like to help, but i'm no C(++) developer... and i guess Linux is NOT written in Java :shock: :wink:
We seem all to be waiting for a version to leak of the CE 5.0 for our devices, and at the same time we seem to think that this will not happen due to the fact our providers are going to want to ship it on new devices and not upgrade the old ones.
Well Mwang put me in the mood to do some searching and this is what I found.
Because Windows CE is in components, you can create a custom version of the OS that includes exactly the elements your particular device requires—no more and no less. Using the Windows CE development tool called Platform Builder, you can create a customized version of the OS, called an "image," that you then download onto your device hardware for debugging. If your hardware is not available yet, you can run your image and debug your applications on the included x86 emulator. That allows the end-user application developer and the low-level system software developer to work in parallel on the same project.
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/getstart/bring2market/plan/learn/windowsce/default.aspx
Well it seems that you can download a 120 days trial version which would mean you would have to flash your device in 120 days.
Windows CE Evaluation Version
Windows CE integrates reliable real-time capabilities with advanced Windows technologies to rapidly build a wide range of innovative, small-footprint devices. The evaluation version is a 120-day trial version of Windows CE, valid from the day of installation. The CD and DVD versions include a copy of Microsoft eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 Service Pack 4. The Evaluation Edition (download) requires you to download eMbedded Visual C++ separately.
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/getstart/evaluate/default.aspx
Think this is the homepage
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/windowsce/default.aspx
So what is stopping us ?? Or Cant I read?
Any body in the mood for this??
Downloading now What could go wrong ?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...50-D311-4F67-9FB3-23E8B8944F3E&displaylang=en
Does this work for you gues ?
I tried this a while back.
Its not as easy as it sounds, firstly you have to correctly setup all the drivers for the hardware.
I wouldnt garantee that it has stuff like the phone apps ready to be compiled in either.
lastly, you have to make it into the correct format for the installer prog, I dont know if the package will output a himaupload.exe compatible rom.
Let me know how you guys do though, it would be nice to compile our own OS!
It's installing on my computer :shock: i want it on my PPC
Well I found a 30 min tutorial on the platform builder and it looks like a lot of the stuff is around (Wifi), What we will miss is the camrea app, but hell its a start.
Ps cant find that link anymore, and the posted link works great.
MDAIIIUser said:
Well it seems that you can download a 120 days trial version which would mean you would have to flash your device in 120 days.
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Im sure it's a 120 days from the day you install it on your Desktop PC :?
definatly not as easy as you think!
i had the older version and i made some images for X86 machines (to make them thin clients)
you need every driver for the device that it will be installed on so theres alot more required than just the platform builder,
check it out anyway, its still fun to use and you can make custom CE's for old PII machines (routers, thin clients etc)
Well Bosjo, would that not give you 119 days to post a BA Rom?
@MDAIIIUser
Well i dont know, but Im guessing that the ROM itself will expire 120 after Desktop installation
@bosjo
Well you better hurry up and do good documentation so that I can rebuild your posted rom in 118 days.
@MDAIIIUser
Ha ha ha, well don't get your hopes up, Im just a plumber that bought a BA to save some time and get projects more organized........... Well that what just to be a laughf, this device has eaten every spare second I have had since the day i bought it, and it's still crappy...............
What? You mean you can use it as a phone, thought it was only good for the pocket solitair, how did you do it? and can I read it on wiki?
You see I am True born again MDAIIIUser and
"I haveth faith in thou"
I've pu the windows CE 5.0 installer in the upload folder
Good job you got this , see your pm
Hmmm... well, if someone can create a ROM that won't expire or brick my device, I'm willing to help with testing...
Let me know if you need me...
hehe. Its impossible to create WM2005 from the stuff offered with the trial WinCE 5.0 Platform builder.
Hint: WM5 has version 5.1. PB offers 5.0
im wondering.. where would you get ALL the drivers from? im sure HTC will not be willing to help us here..
@Manich
I truly respect your post and I am very much aware of not having your knowlege, insight, understanding, hacking competence.
That is why I am amember of this forum, to learn from people like yourself in order to try and get the best for my device. To share what I have learnt with others (I use wiki for that).
So please, please share with us a better idea of how we can get 2005 on a BA. It would save me a lot of time searching on the net, uploading sdk that are of no use as well as moving files on the ftp.
A "it cant be done answer" I could accept if it came from somebody else without your knowlege and I remember reading that somebody wrote something along the lines if it can run it can be cracked (smile).
With alll due respect
MDAIIIUser
Generally it cannot be done as you don't have a board support package for BA or other compatible platform. With lots of hacking and reverse engeneering you can write all drivers and all applications absent from Platform Builder (like cprog, SMS client, SIM toolkit, etc), but it would be only a waste of time. It would take as much time and would be as useless as making a Linux for BA. Better buy a device that originally ships with OS you want.
The only hope for getting WM5 on BA is that some person from MS would offer it or someone would get a device with such a ROM. Even a locked device with a signed ROM would help.
Hi, this is my first post on this forum, so feel free to delete it if I obey any rules, which I believe I don't.
I'm absolutely new to the PDA thing, I never had one, I never held one, and according to that, I never used one.
I think about buying one, but I still have too many unasked questions no one yet answered.
I definately don't want to use Windows on this one. So if there is a, let's say, chance higher than 50% that I won't be able to get Linux working on it, I simply won't buy it.
What I searched for and what I still need is an elaborated progress report, of how stable, fast and reasonable a HTC Universal can be used along with Linux. I'm so newbie that I don't even know if it will be able to do phone calls with Linux installed...
My provider is T-Mobile germany, and I could get one (called "MDA Pro" or "MDA IV") for 133€ (about 1:1 dollar, correct me if I am wrong)
I would get the "MDA Vario" for about 1€, but I cannot figure out the real model name, here is a picture:
http://www.audioelektronik.com/images/MDAVario.jpg
But back to my question: Who can offer a progress report? It would be perfect if the author would be at the same provider as me, but it's not really important. I also accept any provider proposals, as well as PDA proposals. I just thought of the Universal because I like the feature list and keyboard, but it won't be a problem to use a touchscreen exclusively.
So how usable is the HTC Universal with Linux? What can I do and what can't I?
You don't have to answer me myself if my questions are, at least partially, covered by a website. If you have any beginner information about installing, using and developing Linux on and for PDAs, I would love to see them.
If anyone prefers to contact me via ICQ, he is welcome to, I listed my number.
My jabber ID is: [email protected]
Hi,
we are doing our best to get Linux working on MDA Pro
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalProgress
Splendid, fast reply and good link. I'm sorry I couldn't find it. Anyone who is capable of it; feel free to delete this thread.
futlib said:
Splendid, fast reply and good link. I'm sorry I couldn't find it. Anyone who is capable of it; feel free to delete this thread.
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You can watch the detailed progress or help in this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35972&start=800
Hm, I would like to get in touch with development, but I cannot find a detailed introduction focused at newcommers in the development forum.
I never used assembler on a PPC, and though I wanted, I never wrote a Linux kernel module.
This is off-topic in this forum, but do you have a link?
Also great would be an universal emulator to try out ROMs and work on them a little. Is anything available/in progress/planned?
futlib said:
Hm, I would like to get in touch with development, but I cannot find a detailed introduction focused at newcommers in the development forum.
I never used assembler on a PPC, and though I wanted, I never wrote a Linux kernel module.
This is off-topic in this forum, but do you have a link?
Also great would be an universal emulator to try out ROMs and work on them a little. Is anything available/in progress/planned?
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First of all, you should go around the corner, find the next T-Mobile shop and by your MDA Pro device :`)
After that, you can follow the instructions installing Linux on a SD Card from the wiki page. The first link, i gave you.
After that, you can ask more questions in the "Linux on Universal" Thread :`)
Maybe if you are familar with Linux, you can help building a rootfs image.
futlib said:
I never used assembler on a PPC, and though I wanted, I never wrote a Linux kernel module.
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You don't need to. The main problems are in the hardware
area, wince driver operation, nice wince GUI installer,
nice windows GUI installer, fixing bugs in Qt programs.
Also great would be an universal emulator to try out ROMs and work on them a little.
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We are testing everything on the real hardware.
Creating a device "emulator" is even more complicated
than fully porting Linux.
Okay, I think I'll really buy one.
I added you to ICQ EyeOfTheStorm, since I have some more questions and really don't want to flood the forum. Just greet me if you online, and if it doesn't bother
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Programming GUI programs is indeed my task at work atm, I think I could be of help in that part. I mainly use C and C++ and python. But I'll first need to buy my PDA, so...
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futlib said:
Okay, I think I'll really buy one.
I added you to ICQ EyeOfTheStorm, since I have some more questions and really don't want to flood the forum. Just greet me if you online, and if it doesn't bother
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Ups, my ICQ is depricated. Will never go online. So, if you have aditional Questions, ask in the Linux on Universal Forum.
Is there an IRC channel?
(this thread is so much of a chat ;D)
So, I'm only one step away from buying my device.
Now I only have some last questions I need answered before I buy it:
The root filesystem HAS to be on SD/MMC Cards <= 1024MB.
How do you guys exchange music etc.? Can I really not install the root filesystem on the internal memory of that device? Would 128 MB be enough?
I'm warned that my device could be damaged. If so, would the providers warranty apply? Or does it expire if I change the operating system?
The mini-howto tells me to do a backup, but I cannot find an explanation of how to do this.
I think it should just be a dd of the device when mounted on my workstation, but I prefer to have an explanation anyway.
Would I be able to reinstall this windows CE whatever thing whenever I want if I do a backup?
futlib said:
So, I'm only one step away from buying my device.
Now I only have some last questions I need answered before I buy it:
The root filesystem HAS to be on SD/MMC Cards <= 1024MB.
How do you guys exchange music etc.? Can I really not install the root filesystem on the internal memory of that device? Would 128 MB be enough?
I'm warned that my device could be damaged. If so, would the providers warranty apply? Or does it expire if I change the operating system?
The mini-howto tells me to do a backup, but I cannot find an explanation of how to do this.
I think it should just be a dd of the device when mounted on my workstation, but I prefer to have an explanation anyway.
Would I be able to reinstall this windows CE whatever thing whenever I want if I do a backup?
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As far as I know, we still have the 1GB SD Card limit. Yes, you have to install the rootfs on the SD Card. 128 MB are enough for hosting the basic rootfs image.
Well, I just bought this device. I will get it on the 20. of juni. (It's my birthday, and this is no coincidence ;D)
There is only one thing left of this list I really need to know:
Can I reinstall this windows CE thing?
I will perhaps hit a situation were I need something fully functionaning ASAP, so I'd love to know.
But I allready bought it, this is just important for my decision to install Linux on it. If I can somehow backup or reinstall this windows CE thing, I'll definately follow the guide and help development as good as possible for me.
I got my device, followed the guide, installed opie and gpe on it (first tried opie, didn't like the look and then switched to gpe. Found out that GPE cannot manage the universals monitor-spin and switched back to opie.) and now I have got everything up and running.
Couldn't find anything non-working yet too, though I still need to figure out how to make (at least the keyboard layout) german.
Now I also know that Opie/GPE can coexist with WinCE without problems, which makes me very happy.
But there is one thing that still bothers me:
I cannot go online via GPRS or make/accept phone calls when Linux is booted.
Is this possible at all? Neither Opie nor GPE do seem to have any software for doing a phone call.
Is there a guide on how to set up telephony and GPRS internet?
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Found some funky new resources:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal
Is the page I have been searching for a while and
#htc-linux (@freenode)
is the channel I have been searching for a while.
The guys just told me that it is not (yet) possible to do phone calls, but they are working on it. I will try to compile and make the winCE installer working now.
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Here is all drivers & other files for SE K750i:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/cmps_index.php?page=Download
Is this possible to develop a Win Mobile ROM base on this drivers?
Sina™ said:
Here is all drivers & other files for SE K750:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/cmps_index.php?page=Download
Is this possible to develop a Win Mobile ROM base on this drivers?
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DUDE
Are you serious????
K750i is a great phone(I have one)... but not that good...
best regards
mikhe69 said:
DUDE
Are you serious????
K750i is a great phone(I have one)... but not that good...
best regards
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I've got one aswell.. It runs perfectly without Windows Mobile.. Hope it does with tho
I have an SE K750i (Black)
SE K750i hardware specs is near to HTC Typhoon.
Also the OS of K750i is: OSE:
http://enea.se/templates/Extension____12765.aspx
SE K750i hack software:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=366
Win Mobile ROM upgrade for SE K750i can be the new software revolution.
Omg....
well even if what you are proposing was possible due to driver availibility and compatible hardware, the phone wouldn't be much of a use, video driver will be sure incompatible with any WM build and there would be lack of hardware for input and stuff
If any1 could make that working, i'll eat my shoes
Yes, you're right, but...
The SE K750i input hardware is very similar to HTC Feeler.(Only lack of 1 key).
HTC Feeler is just same like HTC Typhoon.
List of K750i camdriver & dispdriver here:
http://www.topsony.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=325
Is there someway to develop Win Mobile drivers base on those drivers?
Well the recompilation 'd be suicidal, but i don't see, how you could be able to decompile the entire GDFSs' and EEPROM for the k750 and extract the necessary drivers for thinks like entire SE based radio stack (GSM and stuff) separatley, so the new WM based stack could be engeneered and implemented as radio stack in rom. The video driver and it's kernell shouldn't be that much of a problem, so if this idea is possible, you could only build a wm2k3 based phoneless rom, without BT and GSM support. And that's just for starters, you'd have to decompile the EEPROM and EROM's to get all the stuff necessary, just to get the entire core of the system working, so the hardware such as CPU could recieve instructions... it's difficult as hell
From my point of view, it would be easier, to compile this stuff for linux, the instructions are more similar to linux, than to WM based core
IDK...
I prefer Win Mobile instead of Linux.
If there is no way, I prefer Linux instead of OSE.
Oh and new finding - i just tried to flash blank rom using Cruiser, and there is no way in hell, you could make something as bootloader for the K750i, so only way, how to get WM to the device is either buying a SE TOOL Box, which costs around 100 Euros, or get some sort of davinciteam.org or wotan.com like server->client based flashers. For instance XS++ is able to read and WRITE the k750i's EEPROM and EROM, but unfortunatley it couldn't write our desired 16/32bit filesystem...
maybe if someone 'd be able to make a virtual bootloader as the phone OS with full internal ROM/RAM read/write capabality - that way we could use normal flashing procedures, perhaps modifing Typhoons or some other similar machines SPL, but still, i don't see how you could push them into the device to behave as we want it to.
Yes, i know you can extract them, but u know, what hexadecimal gibrrish is the GSM driver? i don't think so - SE TOOL box is the option - it has sort of predefined links in it's hardware, it basicly simulates the devices RAM/ROM on the run, cuz the devices (SE has no such thing as bootloader or something, the system either runs or it doesn't) can't just "write the stuff on the fly"
OK...
Just tell me the name of all softwares you need.
OK i need someone to make a virtual bootloader / hardware bootloader (SE TOOL Box based) for SE devices, correct me someone, if i'm wrong, but i don't see any other way, how to get entire WM core to SE K750i. The ROM itself wouldn't be a problem, but since there's no SPL, we can't use absolutley different filesystem, than OSE uses
Slayer23 said:
Oh and new finding - i just tried to flash blank rom using Cruiser, and there is no way in hell, you could make something as bootloader for the K750i, so only way, how to get WM to the device is either buying a SE TOOL Box, which costs around 100 Euros, or get some sort of davinciteam.org or wotan.com like server->client based flashers. For instance XS++ is able to read and WRITE the k750i's EEPROM and EROM, but unfortunatley it couldn't write our desired 16/32bit filesystem...
maybe if someone 'd be able to make a virtual bootloader as the phone OS with full internal ROM/RAM read/write capabality - that way we could use normal flashing procedures, perhaps modifing Typhoons or some other similar machines SPL, but still, i don't see how you could push them into the device to behave as we want it to.
Yes, i know you can extract them, but u know, what hexadecimal gibrrish is the GSM driver? i don't think so - SE TOOL box is the option - it has sort of predefined links in it's hardware, it basicly simulates the devices RAM/ROM on the run, cuz the devices (SE has no such thing as bootloader or something, the system either runs or it doesn't) can't just "write the stuff on the fly"
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We need high-end SE tech guy.
Did you visit the official OSE website?
As a matter of fact, i have a friend working in GS Mobile as SE service guy (it's major HTC and SE devices service center in our country) i'll be seeing him on sunday for a couple of beers, so i'll tell him about our idea, he'll let me borrow their tool box 4 sure and he might even have few other suggestions but since he's a hardware mechanic, i'm sceptic about his knowledge of the software issues - as i said before, the OSE either runs, or it doesen't and what that means for him? Dead phone? -> se tool box -> GDFS, ROM, Filesystem flash -> phone alive, but maybe he knows stuff i don't - we don't talk about software a lot, i personally hate OSE and he hates WM so ... (It has gone so far, that when i bought my Touch, he took a deep red (bordeaux for *****es) w910i from his job and showed off all day ). Maybe some of his coleagues from the HTC division could help us out with the bootloader issue
Great...
Thanks a hell...
Also, the CPU clock of HTC Feeler is 200 MHz, SE K750i is 110 MHz
The SE K750i display is little small, no problem?
What about FM radio & infrared & J2ME?
The display size is 220*176 pixels, that is (at least i think) sufficient for rescaling the ui, motorola mpxsomethin220something has kinda same resolution (at least i think (again))
You can forget FM radio and IrDA, J2ME shouldn't be a problem
Thanks...
I really don't use both FM radio and IrDA.
Yes, K750i display: size: 28 x 35 mm resolution: 176 x 220 pixels, color quality: 18 bit, color support: 262K.
Since the K750i and W800i are essentially two phones with exactly same hardware specifications, soft modifications are available to convert a K750i to a W800i (software-wise). It will then feature the Walkman feature which is supposed to be available to W series phone only.
http://www.topsony.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49
& then upgrading to Win Mobile.
Using Far Manager to hack/flash/patch/customize Sony Ericsson K750i CID49 mobile phones
http://denilsonsa.sh.nu/~denilson/k750i_cid49/using_far.html
K750i ROM size is 34MB.
Enough for Win Mobile ROM upgrade?
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As a matter of fact, i have a friend working in GS Mobile as SE service guy (it's major HTC and SE devices service center in our country) i'll be seeing him on sunday for a couple of beers, so i'll tell him about our idea, he'll let me borrow their tool box 4 sure and he might even have few other suggestions but since he's a hardware mechanic, i'm sceptic about his knowledge of the software issues - as i said before, the OSE either runs, or it doesen't and what that means for him? Dead phone? -> se tool box -> GDFS, ROM, Filesystem flash -> phone alive, but maybe he knows stuff i don't - we don't talk about software a lot, i personally hate OSE and he hates WM so ... (It has gone so far, that when i bought my Touch, he took a deep red (bordeaux for *****es) w910i from his job and showed off all day ). Maybe some of his coleagues from the HTC division could help us out with the bootloader issue
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Any news...?
Not yet, dunno if i'll get to my PC after the visit in the Pub
Is anyone trying to FIX multitouch?
I think that it is the last problem in our roms
It is a driver issue. Drivers are much harder to mod/write than other bits and pieces so unlikely to happen.
However, I'm not sure if the HD7 uses the same digitiser (I'm not a dev, but an enthusiast with some dev understanding).
digitiser is similar e.g. uses same chip. I have a broken HD2 and HD7 purchised just for testing. It must be a driver issue e.g. outdated driver or incompatible with wp7 software. Either that, or if it is in the bootloader/ phone bios, then possibly MGRLD is interfering somehow not sure with those things
Not only multi touch left - multitouch, camera with flash green tint, battery reporting/charging.
All this problems drivers related and will never be fixed, unfortunatly. It can be fixed by HTC only. Nobody here has needed tools and detailed knowledge of hardware of HD2. But HTC won't do anything about this. Drivers from HD7 not working for HD2. Or working bad.
P.S. all this problems exist from first day of WP7 on HD2 and never changed.
Never ? Are you sure ? sniff...
skirep said:
Never ? Are you sure ? sniff...
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I will say 99.99%. My job is related to drivers and hardware development for microcontrollers- i know what is it.
And how much effort and knowledge it requires.
So i left 0.01% for the miracle. Sorry
But how was it then posible to make it work in android? Just curious..
jaka.erc said:
But how was it then posible to make it work in android? Just curious..
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Good question - only can guess. First of all drivers are different for Android of couse. Android is more open system then WP7 with different structure. Somebody used probably similar drivers from other android HTC(they have a lot of different) with modification with knowledge/information about HD2 and related to android leaked from HTC. Tools to build/complile drivers for linux/android is more available then for WP7. Theoretilacy who did it for android possible can do it for WP7 with specific tools. But it wasn't even changed a bit over more than 6 months, so i think low level driver developers(real firmware developers) not interested in HD2 for WP7.
So that is why chances to have perfect WP7 on HD2 are almost zero.
If you want just use perfectly working WP7 - not experimenting and reflashing all the time - buy native WP7 device.
jaka.erc said:
But how was it then posible to make it work in android? Just curious..
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It was a lot of things actually. There was the similarity between the HD2 and the Desire. Android being open source also helped a lot. But probably one of the biggest things was some ingenuity from one of the developers (can't remember off the top of my head). Basically, the HD2 doesn't seem to really support any multitouch except for pinch-to-zoom (believed to be hardware limitation), which probably explains why this works fine in WP7. Ingenuity at the driver level got 2-point multi-touch working in about 99% of the ways one would use it.
I would think we will never see a fix for Windows phone. If I remember correctly, it is technically possible to use hardware that doesn't use a driver that comes built-in to the OS, but no manufacturer has done this to date, and they're on their own when it comes to drivers. As such, other than someone on the Windows Phone team at Microsoft, I don't think anyone knows how to write a driver for Windows Phone.
Personally, I don't care about multi-touch at all. The only multitouch thing I'd ever do is pinch-to-zoom, which does work fine. Even then, I don't use it all that often. If I want to zoom in to read something, I double-tap and it zooms in for me.
legolas93 said:
Is anyone trying to FIX multitouch?
I think that it is the last problem in our roms
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Here is the thread you should be reading!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239705
I think the only real problem would be if the drivers have to be signed (I'm not sure how it is now), and even then there could be workarounds.
Reverse engineering and modifying drivers is of course quite possible, so I don't see any reason why someone with knowledge and enough time (and fortunately, there are quite a few such people out there) wouldn't be able for example, to compare drivers from HD2 and HD7 and modify them.