I've noticed that my internet connection stays on for long periods of time. This wastes my battery. Is there a way to have it shut off automatically when I am not using it? Pocket Tweaks says it should close when I close applications using it. This does not happen. I've tried using Magic Button to truly CLOSE my applications, but it stays connected.
Use a registry editor, and add this:
HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\Flags2 = 8 (DWORD decimal)
Or to add a Disconnect button and a timer display showing how long GRPS is in use for the session:
HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\Flags2 = 16 (DWORD decimal)
To disable both the Disconnect button and the timer:
HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\Flags2 = 0 (DWORD decimal
That was very useful, but now I see that when I launch messaging, check my email, then close messaging, my internet connection stays on. This happens even when email triggers from TMO triggers a mail check. This is why my battery (and probably a whole bunch of other people's too) is draining so fast. It's like being on a phonecall ALL THE TIME!
An active, but unused GPRS connection uses nowhere near the battery amount as a phone call. The battery drain is negligible if nothing is being transferred.
elyl is completely right - an inactive GPRS connection doesn't influence ur battery life noticeably! I recently enabled direct push (so my Wizard is connected 24/7) and I didn't recognize ANY influence on my battery life - still between 2 and 5 days, depending on the usage...
I'd also like to know the answer to this question. Perhaps an inactivity timer of sorts?
Speaking of waste, is there anyway to stop ActiveSync from being so damn persistent ram when it's not even connected?
Related
Hi,
Does anyone know of any software that'll turn off the phone or internet connection when the battery power reaches a certain point i.e. 30% of max?
I would find this very useful as i often forget that it's on and wake up the next morning to find that my battery is all but flat
Cheers,
PhoneAlarm gives you an adjustable warning alert, so you don't just get the warning when it's too late to do owt about it if that's any use.
thanks, it's not quite what i had in mind though. I really want something that will turn the phone/gprs functionality off automatically at a predetermined level... is there anything else out there?
Predetermined, I don't know. You can hook into certain events in the registry, or use the system event scheduler (eg Memaid, SKTools). Then use software like VJVolubilis to disable wifi and gprs, and my other apps to close the phone.
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I'm experiencing very short battery life on my TyTN (Italian ROM) when activating push email - in a few hours (less than 10) the battery drains completely... Any idea? What battery life is expected when push email is activated? :shock:
Have same problem with WWE ROM -- I changed the schedule for ActiveSync (with it disconnected) so that during 'off peak hours' it sychronizes less often -- then adjusted 'peak hours' to as short as workable for my work days. That seems to have helped because the push email is not constantly polling my server. Hope this is helpful.
I'm sure this battery issue is related to the data connection, also when in idle: stopping push email, if i leave a browser page open so that there is an active connection, with no real data traffic, in a few hours the battery is completely drained...
This is really strange, your solution helps (already tried this) but i'm wondering why on the Nokia E61, leaving push email enabled all the day, the battery life is only slightly reduced and not so drastically...
Battery Life
I have the o2 Trion and activated push mail a week ago and the battery life seems to be very good. I can go about 21 hrs with a full charge.
How do I disable push mail totally?
I've been experiencing the same battery drain but i have not been using push mail. Can anyone guide me?
Thanks!
If you want to disable Push Mail (for reasons that escape me), it's one of the buttons on the Comm Manager menu (the one with the little envelope).
I've seen absolutely no impact at all on battery life from using Push Mail -- in fact, I think it's substantially better than if I were polling everying five minutes for new mail...
I had no battery life issues on my TyTN with direct push enabled.
Same here, Push email is working from day one, the only time that I was out of battery was when WiFi was on all day long.
Because WM5 can keep Wifi connection alive when the device is in sleep mode but can keep GPRS connection on (There is no Keep-Alive) while the device is a sleep. Every time the device would wake up for email the WiFi tries to reconnect and chew the battery.
Push-Email has some effect on the battery drain but it all depend on the amount of emails received.
I have about the same problem the battery life but my conclusion is that it's the push mail that pumps the battery but the UTMS !!!
If I choose only GSM network, my battery life is double with or without pushmail.
I have about the same problem with the battery life but my conclusion is that it's the push mail that pumps the battery but the UTMS !!!
If I choose only GSM network, my battery life is double with or without pushmail.
Push Email Setup
Hi everyone,
Just a stupid question. How do you setup your push email?
Is your push email off from Microsoft Outlook?
Thanks
Push Email requires an Exchange Server with a service pack (I forget which one).
Exchange Server + SP2 is required.
One other thing it may be is the connection time-out on the ISA (or equivalent) server publishing your Exchange.
By default it's set to 2mins, so it would force your phone to reconnect (and therefore use battery). Check that it's set to about 30mins or so.
(On ISA, it's a property of the web listener.)
Ferg.
@gianvi, check out acbPowerMeter on your Tytn, will give you power consumption before/after according to WM5 specs, supported on Tytn. One thing is for sure: PushEmail as such is not a power hog.
http://www.mobilitysite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=150742#post150742
Increase battery life
My TyTN has had a poor battery life however I found a fix which I would like to share with everyone here. This has worked very well on my TyTN giving me 4 times the battery life compared to "its out of the box settings".
You need a registry editor, I use Vidya Registry editor for pocket PC and then make the following four changes to the device registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
Default value type and value are
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:1
Change to
“DisablePowerManagement”=dword:0
Once you have made the changes switch the device off then switch it on again, then use the registry editor to make sure the changes have taken.
You should then see a marked improvement in the battery life. As you can see from the above registry settings the power management is disabled by default on the TyTN and this enables it. I have experienced no adverse affects and I use WiFi, push mail, Bluetooth and the phone so it is used heavily.
Have fun with it and enjoy the results!
have made the changes you outlined DNDSM.
also have increased the exchange server 2003 setting for connection timeout to 1 hour - as lucas0511 pointed out the default is 2 minutes!
will report back here after some time to let you know whether there's any difference
i typically use about 10% of my battery per hour, push activated. its horrible!
Hi. Witch band you use? UMTS or GSM?
hm, DNDSM- what exactly do these options do? i'm running acbpowermeter, and my pda uses 47mA whether or not those settings have been changed...
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Hi. Witch band you use? UMTS or GSM?
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talking to me?
3g-hsdpa. i've switched it to GSM right now and am going to keep with that, it reduces power consumption from about 390mA down to beneath 60!
Hi !
could you please tell me why the touch dual disconnects the datasession (HSDPA) after
1-2 minutes being idle.
Whenever I want to use it again, I have to wait until the Session is established again.
Is there a setting where I can set this Idle time to a higher value ???
thx
hans
Editing the Registry
Try setting this key
"HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)"
to
"HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)"
(perhaps you have to soft reset thereafter)
Then the dual will allways try to establish a connection as soon as GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA are available. This works for me since I have a 200mb data plan.
Cheers,
jekk.
ps. you have to use a registry editor for that, I used Resco Explorer, but there is freeware out there, too.
Always On Battery
Hi !
thanks !!
is there a chance to set it to f.e. one hour idle or similar ? I think "always on"
will deplete the battery really fast isn`t it ??
Thx for your help !
Hans
lomex said:
Hi !
I think "always on" will deplete the battery really fast isn`t it ??
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depends... if in the former case re-establishing the connection occured often enough (maybe twice an hour), "always on" will lead to less battery drain. it's kinda trade-off.
Is there a chance to set it to f.e. one hour idle or similar ?
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I don't know, tell me as soon as you find it
Cheers,
jekk
Hi guys,
I just want to know, what battery life are you guys getting with push email turned on. I have to charge my phone almost twice a day with reasonable use.
10 emails
1 hour calls
4 sms
1 hour web browsing
(no wifi or gps)
I can get 3 days with push switched on if I only use 2G and don't use the phone very much.
ie. push isn't a big battery drain in itself.
Maybe push is not big battery drain but being connected to 3G or HSDPA network is BBBBBBIIIIIGGGG battery drain.
I can get through near the week (5 or 6 days) making a few phone calls and SMS with Data Off whereas with 3G on, I will barely last 2 days (and surfing in the train when going to work (2h), battery will not last a day !!). And as push mail implies data on, I would say that it has an impact !!
3G kills the battery.
You can still push email through 2g.
I wonder if someone can create a program that will automatically switch the modes on and off depending on the amount of data being transmitted?
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still nothing out there to switch it to 2g when the screen is off huh?
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THAT! would be an awesome feature.
Data = radio being used, display = live wallpapers and the amount of time the screen stays on plus other additions are a big battery drain but sync in itself isn't that bad even on 3G and I have a G1 with its crappy battery.
Check Settings...About Phone...Battery Use to see what is using the most power. This can help identify unexpected battery drain.
For example some people also forget about widgets that use data like the weather and news widget. To maximize battery turn off all "background data" apps that you don't really use.
Also get Advanced Task Killer and set it to auto kill apps that you don't want running long term (be sure to setup the exclude list for those you want running).
You can use the Power Control widget to enable and disable unused items like Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, and background data.
Set your screen brightness to as low comfortable. On my phone the screen uses the most battery so this is important. You can use the Power Control widget to increase brightness quickly if needed.
Use 2G to save battery. For most stuff it's really not that bad. Use Wifi when you can as uses less power than 2G and is faster than 3G.
I use my phone a lot and it lasts all day. I don't really care if it lasts longer than 16 hours or so if it does all the fun stuff I want between charges.
^Excellent tips! Welcome to XDA!
Hi all,
Just bothering with battery consumption for a while.. I'm getting fun now. So I want to share something first.
In this thread, instead of showing how to save the battery usage, I will focus on the statistic figure.
To be easy to read, read this instruction first
all units are in 'percent/hour'
That's mean
16.7% = 6 hours.
8.33% = 12 hours.
4.16% = 1 day.
2.08% = 2 days.
1.04% = 4 days.
So compare by yourself.
Some Legends
ATK = Keep using of Task Killer from Time to Time (Not automatically)
2G = GSM
3G = WCDMA
SetCPU = Software that automatically reduce CPU frequency when not-in-need.
JD = JuiceDefender
Color
Green = Data has good repeatability, or in easy word; you can trust it.
Orange = Bad repeatability, use as guide only.
Red = Just draft one, too small sampling
Not-in-use (leaving in sleep state)
2.39% = 3G + SetCPU + ATK
3.03% = 3G - SetCPU + ATK + JD
2.45% = 3G + SetCPU - ATK + JD
3.17% = 3G + SetCPU - ATK + JD (Leave some CPU eater behind)
1.20% = 2G + SetCPU + ATK + JD
0.60% = Flightmode + ATK + SetCPU +JD
6.36% = Leaving droid in-charger after it's full, (Flight Mode)
2.57% = 3G + SetCPU + ATK + JD + Bluetooth (Unpair)
3.71% = 3G + SetCPU - ATK + JD + Bluetooth (Paired)
In Use (in most case, + 3G - SetCPU + ATK + JD)
13.04% = CALL
16.04% = Music via Ex-Speaker
14.04% = Music via Ex-Speaker (2G)
11.80% = Music via Bluetooth
8.54% = Music via 3.5" port.
22.22% = Heavy 3D game
24.80% = Wifi Tether (Barnacle)
14.89% = Web, common
In term of Signal Strength, not-in-use state
2.8-5.5% = 3G, v.bad signal, (0-1 bar)
1.7-2.8% = 3G, good signal (2-3 bars)
1.2-1.7% = 3G, v.good signal (3-4 bars)
0.9-1.3% = 2G, good signal (2-3 bars)
0.7-0.9% = 2G, v.good signal (3-4 bars)
Few Executive Conclusion
SetCPU DOES help, but not that big deal.
ATK DOES help, remember that droid can handle memory very well, but still not to CPU. some S/W with CPU consumption can still make it worse. So best keep killing it from time-to-time, may be just before long sleep.
2G DOES give a big difference, in both term, 2G technology give less bandwidth but also require less effort to maintain connection.
Don't leave your droid in the charger after fully-charged.
Signal Strength gives BIG difference, if your location is not in good signal coverage, switch to 2G might helps.
BTW, for all the further question.
I'm using a veteran x10, second handed, with heavily damaged battery (I guessed 70-75% efficiency) on the very first day I could survive only 4 hours with full charged (no doubt why I could buy it very cheaply ), well... now 2 days with moderate use. .. with above figure, I can live 5-6 days if I want (to use it as a brick...)
I use phone as a PHONE. So, all synchronization, screen brightness, is not reduced.
My JuiceDefender just use the default setting, nothing special.
My SetCPU only effects sleep mode.
My Song Player is TuneWiki
My Home is ADW from Market.
Root, unroot, just don't care.
And yes, it's 026.
I just hope my number can make you figure out, what happen to your phone.
Any curiosity, you can ask me to do a favor.
Have a nice (battery) day.
Here's little comparison for 2.1, I don't have plenty time now, sorry for that.
Legend is (1.6 vs 2.1)
Unit remain, percentage per hours
Full 3G/HSDPA signal - idle state -----01.20% vs 00.85%
Mid 3G/HSDPA signal - idle state -----02.30% vs 01.46%
Charge Speed -----------------------27.54% vs 33.55%
Bluetooth + Music (TuneWiki) --------11.80% vs 08.42%
Voice Recorder (mid lvl-signal 3G) ----06.68% vs 04.42%
Added 11/3
Flight Mode -------------------------00.60% vs 00.28%
That's pretty informative although I haven't understood it fully (yet)
Good Info. Thanks for taking the pain to write all the information.
Great thread mate. What settings are you using for ATK?
Herr Noobien said:
Great thread mate. What settings are you using for ATK?
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None, mostly manual.
Just to make sure that the battery life were based on cpu, not ram.
So i just killed most process before idle state. Vs. Open whatever i have till ram had run out, then left it in idle state.