battery life or lack there of - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

every imate owner I know complains of poor battery life. Now I know what they're talking about. my hp6340 could go 12 hours with wi-fi and cell phone running simultaneously. I'm lucky to get 6 hours with this unit. why can't I turned down the brightness further without it turning black?
edved.

Your battery problem could be caused by the version of radio ROM that you are using. I was having exactly the same problem as you, with my O2 Exec. I found that upgrading to radio version 1.06.00 improved battery life tremendously. Suddenly the device was useable!
I have just upgraded to the latest O2 Rom (radio version 1.09.00) and that seems ok on battery life too, although I have only been upgraded for 24 hours.

been there done that...
Hey thanks for your input, but I updated my ROM for the unit twice since I purchased it just a little a month ago. The battery life sucked then and it continues to suck now.
edved.

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Battery life?

Got my trinity about a week ago and with moderate use I only get about 6-8 hours battery life. Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
Not really i'm afraid....so i guess this doen't really help
I CAN tell you, is that my P3600 lasts considerably longer than my iMate Jam did...
What i AM having trouble with is the incredible slugishnes of the device... It really responds with a horrible delay to things like scrolling... (ROM: 1.15.404.2, ExtROM: 1.15.404.101). Anyone experiencing the same ?
Battery life for me has been excellent. Coming from the Wizard I would say battery life is maybe even a bit better on the Trinity than the Wizard.. I am not on 3g though which seems to be the culprit of poor battery life.
I use with 3G, and with moderate use, including wifi, bt, music, etc, finish the day with 50% of battery.
If you not touch it and no calls, in 3G during a journal, consume 10%.
Moaske said:
Not really i'm afraid....so i guess this doen't really help
I CAN tell you, is that my P3600 lasts considerably longer than my iMate Jam did...
What i AM having trouble with is the incredible slugishnes of the device... It really responds with a horrible delay to things like scrolling... (ROM: 1.15.404.2, ExtROM: 1.15.404.101). Anyone experiencing the same ?
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I completely agree with you, about the battery life and the about the fact is is quite slow, I really think the iMate Jam was faster then the Trinity. But the Trinity is considerately faster...

Crappy battery life on ATT 8525

I have a slight beef about my 8525. Sure, it's a great phone with a lot of features, but that only goes so far when the battery life is terrible. I came from a RAZR so maybe I am expecting too much, but I can start the day with 70% battery life and take a couple pictures and browse the Internet for a few minutes (under 10) and end up with 40% battery life by the end of the day. I'm not keeping Bluetooth, WiFi or any Cingular connection open and I am leaving the phone in standby. It seems like anytime I do anything, the battery life goes down 10%. The only software I have installed is Google Maps mobile. Is this normal or am I expection too much out of this thing?
I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?
Rockford_622 said:
I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?
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I've seen people say that some radio's gulp power like crazy, so u cud experiment with different radio's.
I'm on 1.47 rite now and I talk a lot of my phone, use google maps, browse the web, and I charge my phone once every 2 days or so. So its pretty good, i think for the amount of functions the phone has.
I just did a search for battery just in this forum, and in the title of the thread and found a lot of similar complaints so I don't feel so bad now. I also did the registry edit that allows the BAND tab to show under the PHONE settings so I can manually lock my phone to EDGE most of the time and select UMTS only when I prefer the additional speed. One would logically conclude that locking the band would help battery life. We shall see
Radio 1.40.30.00 seems to be a radio version most people are content with so I am stick with it for the time being.
Battery Life
I had an 8125 for almost a year and it was usually good for a day or so.
I recently dropped the 8125 into a cup of water... Amazingly it was not submersible. So now I have the 8525 here in Los Angeles.
The battery life is pretty pathetic. If I unplug the phone in the morning (around 10am) and just carry it around with me without even talking by 2am the phone is letting me know the battery is low.
If I talk on the phone (under an hour) then the phone is dead by 11pm
I use Google Maps for the traffic, and I also have multiple exchange email accounts which check about every 10 minutes.
On days when I actually use the phone and google maps, if I unplug at 10am the phone is dead by 6pm.
At the moment I am running Schnaps 3.60a.
Dave
*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.
Welcome to the future.
I do realize that all of the advanced features will use more juice. I use a HP iPAQ and a Dell Axim at work which both use WM5 and those only get around 4-5 hours of life before they are dead.
It just seems that battery technology is lagging behind the electronic gadgets that use them.
I almost hate leaving the house with the phone being less that fully charged in case I really need it somewhere I am not around a place it can be charged. Suppose a car charger would be in order.
Yes! Crappy Battery Life on the 8525
Yes. I came from an 8125 (ActiveSync on 25/7) and was able to use my phone for 1.5 days. With the 8525, I am lucky to get 6-8 hours. Big bummer!
I locked my 8525 into the Edge network and I believe that my battery life has increased marginally. Of course, this will not work for some people because they need the faster 3G network, but if you would rather have longer battery life, I say give this trick a try. It is really nice if you live in a fringe area where your phone bounces from Edge to 3G and back again frequently.
Doom Tints said:
*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.
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Sorry but you are totaly wrong.
I had a TyTN for 3 monthes. I hardly had more than 24h in standby (no phone, wifi & Co). Phone was only in GSM mode, no UMTS. Tryed a lot of rom/radios.
I sold it, cause this was really too ridiculous.
Now I own a HTC Touch. With same usage and applications installed, I charge my phone only every 4 to 5 days.
12h in standby = only 10% less for battery.
This added to form factor made me very happy, no way I come back to hermes or even kaiser ...

Another battery problem

Hi all
I'm a new member.
Great forum I have to say
I have a new battery after the old one started draining itself
in under a day, no problems before that, the new battery is doing the same,
I have the phone set to "turn off power if not used for 3 mins" &
running window mobile 6.5 test (before I ran windows 6)
I'm just using it as a phone really & not much else, can't figure out
why it's draining the battery so fast!
yesterday it told me the battery was really low but I left it
for around 10 hours & it was still on but had the same low power level
as the day before
any help is appreciated.
SoftBank X01HT / ROM PV 6.5 21500
i think you should change your radio version...
RxenDrav said:
i think you should change your radio version...
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What would you suggest ?
RxenDrav said:
i think you should change your radio version...
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I'm also interested in that. I have a 2+ year old battery, and now with 3g it lasts 30 minutes if browsing full....
thanks!
PS: sparks72, how long does the new battery work? what are the specs of the battery?
diegolaz said:
I'm also interested in that. I have a 2+ year old battery, and now with 3g it lasts 30 minutes if browsing full....
thanks!
PS: sparks72, how long does the new battery work? what are the specs of the battery?
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Hi diegolaz
Battery drains from 99% when fully charged to 80% in a few seconds!
can last all day if handset isn't used but after only a couple of short calls drains dramatically & nags me for a recharge.
The new battery is a 3.7V DC Li-ion 1350mAh.
manufacturer is Celxpert Energy CO Ltd. (China)
Strangely I've been having battery drain problems too, most notably when using 3g data or wifi. Thing is I do have 2 batteries to test with and one of them is not very old. I'm running radio 1.54.07.00 which I have been using for a long time, long enough to remember not having problems with it.
I started keeping a log, here is my results for today:
3:26pm, batter starts at 79%
4:40pm = 71%
8:30pm = 51%
9:30pm = 19%
Between 8:30 and 9:30 i did a hard reset, installed some apps, used wifi for a bit to download the apps and get my exchange account setup, and got/sent some text messages. Seems like a pretty huge drop.
Does anyone know of an app that can report current power drain on the Hermes. I remember having something like that for my 8125
Today I just ordered a new OEM battery off of ebay for cheap just to see if it makes any difference, I recommend you all to do the same. It's the first step of the process of elimination....maybe both batteries I have really are bunk...or that i'm spoiled on my TILT's battery life.
Also turn off "beam" that seems to be on by default.
using wifi will drain the battery pretty fast anyway, but i would also check that your rom is not activating wifi on the sly, i had it when i cooked a rom using josh's kitchen and thought it was my battery that was knackered, turned out it was the wifi switching on constantly ,but i had no indication it was on. Not saying that is your problem , but worth checking all the same
Nothing is on in the background.
Battery still draining fast
zephxiii said:
Strangely I've been having battery drain problems too, most notably when using 3g data or wifi. Thing is I do have 2 batteries to test with and one of them is not very old. I'm running radio 1.54.07.00 which I have been using for a long time, long enough to remember not having problems with it.
I started keeping a log, here is my results for today:
3:26pm, batter starts at 79%
4:40pm = 71%
8:30pm = 51%
9:30pm = 19%
Between 8:30 and 9:30 i did a hard reset, installed some apps, used wifi for a bit to download the apps and get my exchange account setup, and got/sent some text messages. Seems like a pretty huge drop.
Does anyone know of an app that can report current power drain on the Hermes. I remember having something like that for my 8125
Today I just ordered a new OEM battery off of ebay for cheap just to see if it makes any difference, I recommend you all to do the same. It's the first step of the process of elimination....maybe both batteries I have really are bunk...or that i'm spoiled on my TILT's battery life.
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The battery problem for me happened when I upgraded from WM5 to WM6,
even though I have had my Hermes since 2007 (brand new) I only started using it in Feb 2009. (had enough phones to deal with!!)
I tested my old OEM battery & their doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it, very confusing.
Well i got the new battery in, and in 24 hours i went from 96% to 8% at a drain rate of 3.66% an hour. This is good news, I guess those two other batteries I have are wasted :-/ , but at least the TYTN is ok.
sparks72 said:
Hi all
I'm a new member.
Great forum I have to say
I have a new battery after the old one started draining itself
in under a day, no problems before that, the new battery is doing the same,
I have the phone set to "turn off power if not used for 3 mins" &
running window mobile 6.5 test (before I ran windows 6)
I'm just using it as a phone really & not much else, can't figure out
why it's draining the battery so fast!
yesterday it told me the battery was really low but I left it
for around 10 hours & it was still on but had the same low power level
as the day before
any help is appreciated.
SoftBank X01HT / ROM PV 6.5 21500
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I am also facing the exact problem. But I don't think if it is the problem of battery. I think it's some problem with ROM version..
Any help is appriciated.
I have tried several different ROMs but the battery still drains quickly.
Can anyone on this forum shed some light on this problem at all ?
Have any of the developers experienced battery drain problems ?
Does anyone have a solution ?
Thank's

battery life

hi,
i just flashed my elf to SX 6.0 WM 6.5.
i found out that the battery life in decreasing and i wonder is it due to the rom or is it the weakening of my battery.
previously i was using SX 1.1 WM 6.1
my battery now only last about a day standy
normal usage of a hour and sms daily the battery lasts less than a day.
can anyone help me figure this out?
im worried that i'll spend on a new battery and finding out later that it wasn't the battery's fault.
weihoe said:
hi,
i just flashed my elf to SX 6.0 WM 6.5.
i found out that the battery life in decreasing and i wonder is it due to the rom or is it the weakening of my battery.
previously i was using SX 1.1 WM 6.1
my battery now only last about a day standy
normal usage of a hour and sms daily the battery lasts less than a day.
can anyone help me figure this out?
im worried that i'll spend on a new battery and finding out later that it wasn't the battery's fault.
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have u used a hard cid .when u updated ur rom
me 2 i have that probem after i flashed my phone
last update was ONYX 4.8
I tried SX 6.0 and had the same experience - it was on standby pretty much the entire time and had 100% charge. About 20hrs later of just being on standby (GSM on Edge network, no bluetooth/wifi enabled), it was down to 40% battery.
I also noticed, after trying a WM 6.1 ROM that it was much more responsive, though I don't know if all 6.5's are noticably sluggish compared to 6.1 (elfin).
I was thinking it may just be the ROM... that perhaps it had a bit "too much" or something. I was going to try SX 4.1 but the download links are dead now!
If anyone has a copy of SX 4.1, put up a link?
What SPL/IPL are you using now?
SLP 3.14 sucks the life out of my baterry so I switched to 3.10
battery now lasts about 1 1/2days standby and almost a day when using it heavily
I just got word that the battery life from SX 6.0 was due to it having M2D 2.0 on it which is apparently heavy on cpu and battery.
I had purposefully not upgraded to SPL/IPL 3.14 because of the reports of poor battery life with it - I too am using 3.10.
I would have thought though (this is my first touch - I'm coming from an old Motorola V635 which would last a week on one charge with my light usage) that the battery on one of these things would last more than just 1-2 days without a recharge. I'm trying to recondition my battery right now to see if it will give me a bit more life.
I agree that M2D 2.0 drains battery faster, that's why I replaced it with SPB Shell so it lasts longer...
also
try calibrating your battery
go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585914
if it's still not enough then buy a new high capacity battery
I agree that M2D 2.0 drains battery faster, that's why I replaced it with SPB Shell so it lasts longer...
also
try calibrating your battery
go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585914
if it's still not enough then buy a new high capacity battery
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pls delete this double post
laggy internet caused this

Interesting battery performance...

OK, I've had my HD2 since November, and I've never understood people who complained about poor battery life. I've consistently been able to go up to 2 days before charging. On the odd occasion, I've left TomTom running and it's drained the battery right down, but overall I've been pretty content with the battery performance.
Until about a week ago. I thought I'd maybe forgot to stick it on charge overnight the odd time, but now realise the battery has started to drain much more rapidly.
I did not change ROM, or install any additional software. I made sure nothing was running that shouldn't be in Task Manager. All of a sudden, I'm getting quite random battery drain - up to 20% drop in an hour. I put up with it for a week, thinking it just needed a hard-reset, so last night I decided to flash a new ROM. I updated to the latest radio ROM, and flashed bobsbbq's latest ROM thinking that would sort it, but after I took it off charge this morning it was down by 15% within an hour.
The drain has levelled off throughout the day, but it's still much higher than I'm used to. I don't use wireless, and I only have bluetooth turned on if I'm on AC power, so I've just got GSM/3G in normal use (and get good reception at home and work).
The fact that the battery drain changed so much in such a short period of time, with no obvious change in usage or software leads me to believe the battery itself is beginning to fail. I usually expect a good couple of years from a mobile battery before I see noticable drops in charge, but that's 6 months.
Is it possible the HD2 batteries are not very well made, resulting in some people having great battery life, and others complaining that it's crap?
elyl said:
OK, I've had my HD2 since November, and I've never understood people who complained about poor battery life. I've consistently been able to go up to 2 days before charging. On the odd occasion, I've left TomTom running and it's drained the battery right down, but overall I've been pretty content with the battery performance.
Until about a week ago. I thought I'd maybe forgot to stick it on charge overnight the odd time, but now realise the battery has started to drain much more rapidly.
I did not change ROM, or install any additional software. I made sure nothing was running that shouldn't be in Task Manager. All of a sudden, I'm getting quite random battery drain - up to 20% drop in an hour. I put up with it for a week, thinking it just needed a hard-reset, so last night I decided to flash a new ROM. I updated to the latest radio ROM, and flashed bobsbbq's latest ROM thinking that would sort it, but after I took it off charge this morning it was down by 15% within an hour.
The drain has levelled off throughout the day, but it's still much higher than I'm used to. I don't use wireless, and I only have bluetooth turned on if I'm on AC power, so I've just got GSM/3G in normal use (and get good reception at home and work).
The fact that the battery drain changed so much in such a short period of time, with no obvious change in usage or software leads me to believe the battery itself is beginning to fail. I usually expect a good couple of years from a mobile battery before I see noticable drops in charge, but that's 6 months.
Is it possible the HD2 batteries are not very well made, resulting in some people having great battery life, and others complaining that it's crap?
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I had read that some of the HD2 batterys were a bit dodgy as they were siphoning off the batterys from different manufacturers and as a result some are remarkably better than others.
elyl said:
OK, I've had my HD2 since November, and I've never understood people who complained about poor battery life. I've consistently been able to go up to 2 days before charging. On the odd occasion, I've left TomTom running and it's drained the battery right down, but overall I've been pretty content with the battery performance.
Until about a week ago. I thought I'd maybe forgot to stick it on charge overnight the odd time, but now realise the battery has started to drain much more rapidly.
I did not change ROM, or install any additional software. I made sure nothing was running that shouldn't be in Task Manager. All of a sudden, I'm getting quite random battery drain - up to 20% drop in an hour. I put up with it for a week, thinking it just needed a hard-reset, so last night I decided to flash a new ROM. I updated to the latest radio ROM, and flashed bobsbbq's latest ROM thinking that would sort it, but after I took it off charge this morning it was down by 15% within an hour.
The drain has levelled off throughout the day, but it's still much higher than I'm used to. I don't use wireless, and I only have bluetooth turned on if I'm on AC power, so I've just got GSM/3G in normal use (and get good reception at home and work).
The fact that the battery drain changed so much in such a short period of time, with no obvious change in usage or software leads me to believe the battery itself is beginning to fail. I usually expect a good couple of years from a mobile battery before I see noticable drops in charge, but that's 6 months.
Is it possible the HD2 batteries are not very well made, resulting in some people having great battery life, and others complaining that it's crap?
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I am precisely in the same boat. I am using my battery now for around 6 months. Since last week the battery seems to drain much faster than before. I am still analyzing what could be the reason, but I think it's the battery itself that is getting weak - far too early.
elyl said:
OK, I've had my HD2 since November, and I've never understood people who complained about poor battery life. I've consistently been able to go up to 2 days before charging. On the odd occasion, I've left TomTom running and it's drained the battery right down, but overall I've been pretty content with the battery performance.
Until about a week ago. I thought I'd maybe forgot to stick it on charge overnight the odd time, but now realise the battery has started to drain much more rapidly.
I did not change ROM, or install any additional software. I made sure nothing was running that shouldn't be in Task Manager. All of a sudden, I'm getting quite random battery drain - up to 20% drop in an hour. I put up with it for a week, thinking it just needed a hard-reset, so last night I decided to flash a new ROM. I updated to the latest radio ROM, and flashed bobsbbq's latest ROM thinking that would sort it, but after I took it off charge this morning it was down by 15% within an hour.
The drain has levelled off throughout the day, but it's still much higher than I'm used to. I don't use wireless, and I only have bluetooth turned on if I'm on AC power, so I've just got GSM/3G in normal use (and get good reception at home and work).
The fact that the battery drain changed so much in such a short period of time, with no obvious change in usage or software leads me to believe the battery itself is beginning to fail. I usually expect a good couple of years from a mobile battery before I see noticable drops in charge, but that's 6 months.
Is it possible the HD2 batteries are not very well made, resulting in some people having great battery life, and others complaining that it's crap?
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You said it yourself, the batterys performance gets worse for every day and should be replaced with a new one every 6 month, atleast.
Some feedbacks in other threads pointed out a possible and unforeseeable cause, the microsd card.
Try removing it and check battery drain, if that's the culprit try formatting it before throwing it away.
Also, as I stated in at least 3 other threads p) it's always a good idea to check battery drain with battclock, it should be 4mA during standby, any big variations from that mean something's draining while phone should be sleeping instead.
steffen1337 said:
You said it yourself, the batterys performance gets worse for every day and should be replaced with a new one every 6 month, atleast.
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er... are you for real? poor iphone owners should send back their devices for servicing twice a year then
steffen1337 said:
You said it yourself, the batterys performance gets worse for every day and should be replaced with a new one every 6 month, atleast.
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Yeah mate, that's laughable. I've never had a mobile phone battery go within 6 months. Are you trying to jump start your car with your batteries or something?

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