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Phone reset itself! Any idea why?

I have an O2 XDA2. I just took the phone out of my jacket pocket to find that it wanted me to calibrate the screen. It went on to take me through the whole set-up wizard and then I found that all my data and installed programs had been lost
I'm guessing the phone decided it wanted to reset itself!
Does anyone have any idea why this might have happened so I can avoid it happening again?
The phone had plenty of battery power (approx 80%). It had plenty of space space (approx 28MB). I hadn't recently installed any software although I did uninstall Pocket Money on the weekend. I also created an IMAP email account then but I've had no problem with the phone since then until now.
Any ideas? Thanks very much

would prob be a good idear if you stated the rom version you are using

Sorry, It's 1.60.00 WWE
I have never upgraded it as I haven't the first idea how or what the implications are.

the latest officail rom is 1.72
if you get that from their site you will not get warrenty issues
when i used 1.66 i had lockups from time to time
after i got 1.72
i havent had any issues

I don't really feel comfortable upgrading it as I haven't the first idea what to do.
How do you normally reset a device? Is it something I could have done by accident?

there is a little hole in the buttom of it in the right corner if you press that using something thin like the stylus while you press the on button
then it hardreset
but there is software which let you do it as well
the upgrade is really pretty simpel

Thanks very much. I know the reset button, I use that every now and again. There's no way I could have pressed it and the on switch by accident given tha the phone was in an otherwise empty jacket pocket.
Oh well, I guess my phone just had enough of life. I'll look into upgrading the ROM when I feel a bit more adventurous

Fabulous...My phone has again decided to reset itself out of the blue.
I have no idea why it does this but it's a pain in the rear. Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone know if there's anything I can do to prevent it? (other than upgrading to the Universal when it comes out!!)

And it's happened again...seems to happen approximately once a month.
Has this spontaneous hard reset issue not happened to anyone else?

I suffered this audacious curse only to find that by removing my 1gig sd card remedied the problem.
I'm wondering if the sd card draws too much power/resources or whether I have a dodgy sd card.
Either way, without it I'm flying. I pop it in when I need to use my TomTom and as it's on charge in the car cradle it doesnt matter about resource usage etc.
So, try removing your sd card and see what goes

SD cards seem to be causing all sorts of problems. I kept getting the eternal spinning timer when copy, paste or deleting files, if the card was inserted. Did a soft reset today to be met with the calibration screen as from a hard reset. Such fun isnt it. :roll:

Hi Guys
Thanks very much for your comments. Unfortunately it isn't the cause as I have had my SD slot empty for a while now (my SD card is in my new car radio/MP3 player )
I'm starting to think that after 15 months my XDA2 has decided that it's had enough of the world. My colleague told me that it's seeking revenge as it's heard me salivate over its younger sister (the Universal).
As you say having the phone hard reset itself is a whole lot of fun!

I have the Sprite Back Up programe so all is not lost - it creates an exe file on the SD card that you locate and select thus restoring everything just how it was before it was lost

one can also just have activesync do an inc backup at each sync
and if the device hardresets one can connect as guest and restore the backup from ones normal profile

The nice thing about the Sprite software is that you can restore when you're out and about unlike the active sync method which means you need your pc close by

XDA 2i PROBLEMS!!! SO MANY PROBLEMS!!

Firstly, my Pocket PC is EATING SD Memory cards with no problem at all. Whilst copying files across the PDA crashes as the SD card is rendered useless. I have tried 3 all three have eventually been destroyed. Unreadable on a PC, at the shop etc etc...
Secondly it reboots itself every 10 mins approx... VERY FRUSTRATING! I must say that I am very excited about owning the PDA but so far, nothing but problems!!!
Anyone know about any of these??

Sounds like a software conflict or hardware problem.
Indicate hardware used (including ROM versions) and software installed pls.

Hi,
ROM Version: 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date: 12/24/04
Radio Version: 1.00.00
Protocol Version: 1337.39
ExtROM Version 1.10.124 WWE
I am going to update to the iMate ROM i have seen in other threads... you think that will help?

Sounds like you have a serious problem on your hands, wish I could sympathise & say I have suffered the same....but I haven't. My XDA 2i did have some minor problems (freezing up, crashing etc) nothing too drastic that a soft reset couldn't sort out. But in the end I got fed up with that method & got a replacement from O2 within a week, and so far no problems........I suggest you do the same :lol:

could it be TomTom that was causing this? I did have tomtom installed... i just put the original ROM back on it from O2 website and it hasn't crashed yet...

OK -
Since my last post I have installed the i-Mate Update on my 02 XDA 2i and it has been ok.
No more memory cards have been destroyed and the rebooting has stopped completely.
I am running it with a 512MB SD card now... this SD Card only contains my SAT NAV maps. However I ran a backup a few minutes ago and got bored half way through so I cancelled it. Now all of a sudden my SAT NAV Maps are gone completely and my SD card is empty. THis has happened twice now (randomly deletes folders on my SD card).
As far as i know I have all the updates available. Would an MMC card be better? whats the real differenc? Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Is the imate rom suitable for Asia rom ? Coz i'm from Malaysia and doubt whether it can be use on local Maxis operator or not !

right - here is an update. My last update was installing the i-mate ROM and putting in a new 512 PNY SD Card.
this worked fine for about 4 days, when suddenly lo and behold tomtom couldn't find any maps and sure enough my SD card was undetectable. I have decided that there is nothing inherintly wrong with my PDA, I have decided that cheapmemory is bad.
I have read good reports about ScanDisk memory for the XDA series. I have ordered 1GB Scandisk memory (checking the returns policy !!!! just in case).
I am going to see if this card works, if it goes wrong then i am accepting that the problem lies in my XDA, but otherwise I am blaming it on cheap memory namely PNY.

CHEAP MEMORY!
so far - I have had my ScanDisk 1GB memory in for about 3 days. Not only is it much quicker than the other memory but also it has not died yet. Looking good for scandisk!

Microdrive wiped clean for no aparent reason

Yesterday I was play around with the VGA 144 resolution program and I noticed that on this resolution the contents of my microdrive were showing up really slowly in file explorer.
I uninstalled the program and things were back top normal.
Later I installed a newer version of the CAB for VGA 144 and this time the contents on the microdrive did not show up at all, as if it was empty, which in fact it was!
I do not know what caused this (I don't think it was the change of resolution) but was wondering if anybody else has had this happen?
The threads I have seen so far are that the microdrive is no longer visible as a drive or error messages when trying to access it....

edeplano said:
Yesterday I was play around with the VGA 144 resolution program and I noticed that on this resolution the contents of my microdrive were showing up really slowly in file explorer.
I uninstalled the program and things were back top normal.
Later I installed a newer version of the CAB for VGA 144 and this time the contents on the microdrive did not show up at all, as if it was empty, which in fact it was!
I do not know what caused this (I don't think it was the change of resolution) but was wondering if anybody else has had this happen?
The threads I have seen so far are that the microdrive is no longer visible as a drive or error messages when trying to access it....
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Something similar happened to me and that's why I don't trust the drive. It wasn't with a VGA program, just happened.

I have never lost the microdrive, but something similar happened to me on an SDHC 4GB card. I had been using it only to store CAB files for installed programs but one day it was just 'empty'.
I pulled out the card and hooked it up to my computer, ran scandisk on it and all of the files were there, just seemed to have lost the FAT table as they were all lost files to be recovered. I reformatted the card since I had the files backed up.
I was running VISTA at the time time of the incident and I found that I had been moving files to the card using WM Device Center and I had the SD directory open on my desktop when I undocked my phone. Seems as if it had the FAT table open and and did not like being disconnected with the directory open.
There may be something analogous to this with ActiveSync, but I have never had this happen with another device, just with my U1000. I have been closing WMDC since then and have NO PROBLEMS.

so far this has not happened to me with the microdrive, but it has happened a few times with the sd card, which left me f**ked last week as i had tomtom on it, luckily I downloaded google maps to get me home. but there has to be an answer to why this is happening.

raskell said:
I have never lost the microdrive, but something similar happened to me on an SDHC 4GB card. I had been using it only to store CAB files for installed programs but one day it was just 'empty'.
I pulled out the card and hooked it up to my computer, ran scandisk on it and all of the files were there, just seemed to have lost the FAT table as they were all lost files to be recovered. I reformatted the card since I had the files backed up.
I was running VISTA at the time time of the incident and I found that I had been moving files to the card using WM Device Center and I had the SD directory open on my desktop when I undocked my phone. Seems as if it had the FAT table open and and did not like being disconnected with the directory open.
There may be something analogous to this with ActiveSync, but I have never had this happen with another device, just with my U1000. I have been closing WMDC since then and have NO PROBLEMS.
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one of the times it happened to me was when copying files, 1 gig card is fine I dont have a 4 gig only two, you may be right about the fat, but I was using windows mobile device centre at the time.

Even though this happened to me personally...YET, I'm expecting it sooner or later. Never did get my cousins MD fixed!!
I hate this MD and not being able to trust it really defeats the object of buying this device in the first place. Looking forward to when we can eventually replace it with something else.
Surley the MD is not bigger than say the technology needed for a Full sized SD card and connections, is it? That would allow us to relatively easily upgrade our storage capacity in the future too.
Anyway, enough dreaming.

My MicroDrive wiped out too...
I was just using RescoExplorer and my x7500 stucked, I soft reseted the device and ALL files in all directories were deled, and the empty directories were there.
I used Pocket Mechanic Professional and did a scandisk and wupti all files was there again but there was about 59000 bad clusters...
Now everything is back to normal..

It happened to me twice last month both times using different s/w! (and I just start using my Advantage in July; basically this was the first time I seriously used this PDA)
The idea was nice but data storage on this MD is totally unreliable. I guess I will not be using it anymore. Even for the none vital files (e.g. music) it is not interesting seeing how much time it takes to load the MD and the ease the data disappears from the MD.
1st time I was using TomTom -on the second day of my holiday- which stopt responding. After a HTC reset TT started up and reported it could not find the Western Europe map (which I put on the MD). When I checked this map directory ALL FILES WERE GONE! Other directories appeared ok. Luckily (I thought) just for leaving on my holidays I added also the individual maps on my MD, so I switched using the Austria map, where I landed at that time. At most 2 hours later again TT froze and at inspection ALL files in the Austria directory had vaporised. Later in the evening I tried to relax from the stress driving with an "old fashioned PAPER map" and put on some music. Halfway the first number the music stopped and -you guess it right- ALL 40+ CD's were disappeared. At that time I ran Pocket mechanic 'scan disk' which reported that the FAT tables did not match (and it could not repair). Next I could not find my MD at all anymore, followed the next day by the complete HTC not being able to startup anymore after a reset (the today screen was only showing half and this part was flashing: the HTC also did not respond anymore to the h/w buttons or almost any command via the screen).
When I returned home from this first stage of my holidays (, I hard-reset the HTC after which everything returned to normal including the MD that reappeared.
After 1 week at home I was to leave for the second stage of my holidays and I prepared by putting this time all nescesary TT maps on the SD. I spend quit some hours putting some 40+ CDs again on the MD. ( I can only copy ~3 CD's at a time otherwise it aborts somewhere).
The FIRST TIME I listened to some music I started a Bowie CD and half way the first number suddenly it switched to a Stones number (no, nothing to do with 'dancing in the street'). After inspection of the MD there were already only 2 (screwed up) MP3 files left -in the root- on the complete MD!!
The MD is still in this state -and I just ran scan disk again- and appearently there is again a problem with the FAT only this time with lost clusters.
If it where not for the fact that during this 2nd trip of 4200km/2700mls over curvy B-roads TomTom gave me no troubles at all, the internal GPS worked flawless and the BlueTooth A2DP worked perfectly with my "home-made" BT helmet (for this I bought this HTC) I would have been seriously disappointed in the Advantage. As it is now I am actually quit happy with it, except for the inconvienence of not being able to use the MD.
So yes, it happened to me too: twice.

Petition for recall?
Do you guys think it's time to petition HTC for a recall of the MicroDrive? I have no idea how something like this will work but based on the feedback on the forum...there are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many people having problems with the MicroDrive. Those that use it seriously have problems.
I myself don't have time as most of my time is being spent on the Athena Project ROM but maybe someone else can help in the matter.
What do you guys think? A massive communication effort to HTC to find out what the heck is going on here? We paid wayyyy too much money for them to think we'll be happy with what we have if there is one or two faulty parts. The one part that keeps failing us is the MicroDrive and I think it's time to get a few answers. It's our right as the consumer and get answers and the quality product that we anticipated.

I totally agree and was just trying to report my problems -including the link to this forum/thread- on the HTC site.
HTC however seems a little bit e-mail shy. Last time I checked I could not find any e-mail link at the HTC site, now I could find one but everytime when I submit my message I get a popup 'the system is experiencing some problem, please try again at a later time'.
I try again later.

scruued up
so suddenly yesterday i was just using my athena and i had this Vista Theme on Wisbar Advance running....and the device just got stuck at windows live sign-in window and the phone first just restarted but then again got stuck and the "Windows Mobile" window wich appears at the start and then wen i manually resetted it....EVERYTHING was WIPED OUT!!!...BUT everything on the device remained like the wisbar theme it asked me to install and all but on the MICRODRIVE...everything just....VANISHED!!!

I was on holiday in the u.s.a in July, and had tomtom installed (on the MD, no more room on the card), all of a sudden, it froze while driving, had to pull over and found that my usa maps had been wiped! luckily I also had igo installed with some usa maps and was able to continue my holiday without having my head stuck in a paper map, thanks for the dodgy MD HTC!

Yes, this happened to me - both the sd card and md are equally unreliable. At the moment,I install everything on my md simply because it is way way faster than the sd card. I don't use my sd card at all now,although I have two of them.
When you copy files using wm5torage, avoid starting a new copy before the one before completes. Similarly, do not use the device while copying is going on , although the system does not stop you. What I observe is that there is a higher chance of corruption when I don't observe these practice.
I used to think that md is less reliable than sd. Now I don't think that anymore. I think they are equally unreliable.

musso said:
I was on holiday in the u.s.a in July, and had tomtom installed (on the MD, no more room on the card), all of a sudden, it froze while driving, had to pull over and found that my usa maps had been wiped! luckily I also had igo installed with some usa maps and was able to continue my holiday without having my head stuck in a paper map, thanks for the dodgy MD HTC!
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Which Tomtom version are you using? do you have WM5 or WM6? What is your Rom version?
Guys, is there a way to easily reproduce the problem in MicroDrive and SD so we can pass it to HTC and hopefully get a solution?

My new Advantage is less than 24 hours old and I too have had the Microdrive come with garbage while trying to move videos files from my PC to the PDA. I have formatted it and reloaded it, so wish me luck!!

Exactly the same story here - 7501 (WM6) less than 24 hours old.
- unable to accessed until formatted
- sometimes not showing directories/files until a soft reset
- returning messages like 'disk full or write protected' when copying from desktop
The worst of it is losing a 126Mb wmv file during one of these false 'disc write protected/full' events.
There has to be a serious issue with the OS that has to be fixed.
How do we build a poll of users with this problem?

Folks,
I have a reply from a message I sent to [email protected] last week:
Hello Bart,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC regarding the problems you are having with your HTC Advantage device.
Bart, we regret to see that you are having problems with the micro drive in your HTC Advantage device. If you could forward us several examples of other users having the same issues, we will forward them to our product development team for resolution. Please forward me the following information for each example:
* Serial Number
* IMEI
Identity
* OS Version -
* Radio Version -
On receipt of enough examples for these issues, we will be able to prioritize the resolution of this problem.
How can we collect this information so we can provide a united front to HTC?
Do we need a moderator to post a 'sticky' message at the top of this forum?
Btw to get this info
* Serial Number
- inside the battery compartment door flap
* IMEI
- inside the battery compartment door flap
or
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Identity
* OS Version -
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Version
* Radio Version -
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Version
Thanks
Bart

I'd like to contribute...
Did we get anywhere with this issue with HTC? I think it's a great idea, at least for the principle of the thing, to get them working on this (even if someone else can solve the problem better and faster). We could each submit a tx, but creating the "petition" for help that they seem to want would at least get some results. My reservation would be that we would be suckered into what seems like manipulative behavior on their part. After all, they are not government and we are not lobbyists.
I'm working on fixing it myself, but why are they releasing stuff I have to fix out of the box? If we can't get them to spend thier money & time fixing this stuff, we'll keep getting crap we have to fix, right? So where do we go from here? Anywhere?

I only get flaky when I'm on 128dpi
My MD seems to work acceptibly well on either 192 or 96, it's when I shift to 128 that things start to disapear, etc.
Hmmmm. Would, perhaps, this be a result of lame drivers?

phone has become abnormally slow, and hangs often.

i am a ardent fan of this site and a regular visitor since i brought my htc touch hd, i am living in Australia bought the phone when i went to India last month. this is my very first windows mobile, the phone was working like a charm till the time i accidentally reset the phone by clicking clear storage. i thought it was like emptying the recycle bin in windows vista, the phone asked me to type the numbers from 1 to 4 which i did and everything changed from that time. the phone is abnormally slow and often hangs, leting me down when i need it. of late i am not able to sync the phone with the system as it is not getting recognized my sd card.ophra does not work as like most of the applications. i tried to format my 8 gb sd card which came along the phone, but the fate is still the same. will a hard reset help me?
my rom is: 1.18.707.3(23358) wwe
radio version: 1.09.25.14
i am a novice person as far as phones are concerned, i don't meddle with it
help in this regard is much appreciated.
regards,
gokul.mb

Yes, you should try a hard reset. Remember to backup any data that you have entered in the phone, hopefully you will be able to sync to do that. If I understand, you deleted the 'internal storage', am I right? Maybe some programs are storing executables, DLL files or other stuff there and all of them stopped working when you 'cleared' storage. Btw, where is that 'clear storage' option in the menu?

It's in System Settings I think.
Isn't Clear Storage a hard reset?

yeah its the one found in settings under the tab system, i think i did a hard reset by do it. thats what i found from the forums, while i was reading a few hours back. i dont know what to do now, also read it some where that installing .net 3.5 and change the settings using a reg editor, later install sd card tune up cab will improve the performance considerably. which registry editor do you suggest? thanks for your replies....

I had similar issue with my Touch HD, but it happend after i took a picture (one of many) with the camera. I did a hard reset, but that did not help. Try removing the SD card, because in my case the problem was that something had gone wrong with that picture and the phone could not read it properly and display it in the Photos and Videos section ot the TouchFlo 3D (or at least that what I think was the reason ). Anyway, that worked for me - glad if it works for you too.
P.S. Forget to mention that after deleting that picture (with SD card reader - I could not do it in the File Explorer on Touch HD) everything went back to normal.

omg i solved my problem atlast....... thanks to all who gave me suggestions about this problem. i hard reset the phone after formating my sd card. now the phone runs like a wild horse...faster than before.

Good to hear.......Now jump on that sucker and get moding......yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa

random freeze

My phone freezes at random times. I couldn't figure out a pattern.
I bought it a week ago and at after some time I click on the power button to wakeup - it doesn't respond and sometimes I just leave it as it is and find the backlight still on showing the screen from 10 minutes ago and not responsive.
The only thing I can do is to soft reset the device but just yesterday it happened like 40 times. While frozen the gsm service is also down and the incoming calls are replied with "can't be reached at the moment" 2 days ago I hard reset the device and it froze again just after the hard reset - for that reason I believe it's a hardware or a firmware issue - not a software one.
ROM:1.14.414.2 24011 WWE
ROM date: 12/10/08
Radio version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol version: 52.49a.25.26U
Anyone with the same issue?
//anything like an eventvwr to see the logs? maybe I can figure out a pattern.

- Did you install the HTC hotfix?
- How old is your sim card? If it's very old, you may want to ask your provider for a new one.

Thx for the questions - unfortunately:
- Installed the hot fixes
- I just got a new subscription, my sim is new

"h..p://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all"
Download and install the bottom fix.
edit: Sorry now I did see your reply.
Do a hard reset and after install again hotfix

Thanks for the advise, but it doesn't work either.
2 days ago I hard reset the device, applied the patch - still the same problem. Also in the link you wrote it says "screen stops responding for about 3 to 5 seconds when running" - My device just freezes at a point and stops responding. Most probably there is an IRQ trigger at the processor level that freezes all operations.

//doublepost

Same thing happened to me a few times.
Today I hat to soft reset 4 times!! with the button under the back cover because none of the buttons would do anything at all.
I also have the device for just over a week now.
I'll try and install the patch, but I don't think it will fix it because the description of the problem is totaly different.
I'll let you know..
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah, I suppose you bought it from Netherland - and I bought it from Belgium, most probably with the same shipment - there might be a production or shipment problem. Its good to know that I'm not alone =)
By the time can you write down ROM, ROM date, Radio version and Protocol version?
Looking forward to hear from you,
Kaya

Hi I just installed the hotfix and played around with it.
The hotfix did nothing at all!
It still froze on me.
Rom version: 1.14.404.3 (22237) NLD
RomDate: 12/09/08
Radioversion: 1.09.25.14
Protocolversion: 52.49a.25.26U
I might try backing up this rom and installing another one...
I've had good experiences wit dutty's roms on my TytnII..
But I need time for that. And time... well... there's never enough
I installed a lot of software in My HD. I was thinking of doing a hard reset and installing the programms one by one. However, since you have the same problem and it didn't work for you. I guess that's no use then..
Damn, I love my Blackstone, but this random freezing really spoils it!
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah

I will warn you on changing the rom 'cause we aren't using the same rom version but facing the same problem. This might mean - it is either a problem with the radio version/protocol or a hardware issue. If its a hardware issue, a cooked rom won't make much of a difference. And I wouldn't risk to blow its warranty if it is really a hardware problem that would need a replacement.
You long live my friend, nothing explains this situation better than this:
"Damn, I love my Blackstone, but this random freezing really spoils it!"
// the only software didn't get effected from hard reset is igo8 which was in my sd - do you by any chance have it too? maybe but just maybee it might be screwing around with the gps and cause trouble but its really a long shot

Same issue did appear in Greece, in 4 different devices. Two (2) of them bought from Expansys and two (2) from local market. One of them returned the device to the local resseler and they changed motherboard.
Now me, after installing official ROM and Cooked ones (Panosha 1.3, 1.4, 1.4.1, 1.5) and having always after a couple of days the same problem, now I am running Panosha Black Pearl 1.6 with no problems at all yet.
My devices info :
I also have to mention that probably the problem has nothing to do with specific software / program, since I've tried official ROM, with nothing else installed (completely clean device and NO SD card inside)
HTC Touch HD, S/N HT844..., bought from Expansys on 10/11/08, ROM now : Black Pearl 1.6 WWE Full (Original 1.14.405.3 build 22273 WWE, ROM date 24/10/08), Radio version: 1.09.25.14

evharisto poli ktsak =)
Now we can be almost sure that its not a rom or a software issue as the problem is spotted on different rom versions. Hopefully we have the same radio and protocol version which either of them might be the cause (I suppose ktsak didn't made a change on it). Or a hardware problem ofcourse.

kozalp said:
Now we can be almost sure that its not a rom or a software issue as the problem is spotted on different rom versions. Hopefully we have the same radio and protocol version which either of them might be the cause (I suppose ktsak didn't change made a change on it). Or a hardware problem ofcourse.
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Yes, protocol and radio version are the original ones, never changed.
Thats why i've tried 5 or six different ROMs, in order to exclude the possibility of software affect

My Blackstone was very easy to freeze. When I opened a lot of programms and then used the manager to close all of them at once, (I use the SPB pocket plus X-button menu for that....) it woud freeze 9 outof 19 times.
What I have tried:
1. remove SIM and SD-card.
I couldn't freeze it after that. I tried 15 times. I didn't freeze even once.
2. With simcard but no SD.
Couldn't freeze it.
3. Formatted SD-card and copied everything back to it.
(use micro-SD to USB adaptor for that)
It only froze once. After that until now, I couldn't make it freeze.
Since it still froze 1 time, I think it is not the solution.
Especially because of ktsak's post....
ktsak said:
I also have to mention that probably the problem has nothing to do with specific software / program, since I've tried official ROM, with nothing else installed (completely clean device and NO SD card inside)
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However, I will still experiment with it a bit.
I changed the class 4 one I got with the device with a class 8 one that I already had. That is the one I am using now.
What SD-cards are you using?
(There were also freezes without SD-cards installed?)
I will use it with the class 8 re-formatted SD-card for a while and see if it freezes. If it does, I will try the slow one.
I will report back here.
ktsac: let us know if the Black Pearl still works or if it doesn't. I am used to flashing my phones all the time, so I am not afraid of it.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

FYI
Is there a way to format the SD card from the device? I haven't tried that yet but I don't have a compatible card reader or an adapter either.
And I also tried to run a lot of programs and kill them all - it froze... It might mean a problem with process killing.

Pfeffa-rah said:
What I have tried:
2. With simcard but no SD.
Couldn't freeze it.
3. Formatted SD-card and copied everything back to it (use micro-SD to USB adaptor for that). It only froze once. After that until now, I couldn't make it freeze. Since it still froze 1 time, I think it is not the solution.
I changed the class 4 one I got with the device with a class 8 one that I already had. That is the one I am using now. What SD-cards are you using? (There were also freezes without SD-cards installed?)
I will use it with the class 8 re-formatted SD-card for a while and see if it freezes. If it does, I will try the slow one.
ktsak: let us know if the Black Pearl still works or if it doesn't. I am used to flashing my phones all the time, so I am not afraid of it.
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As mentioned in previous message, I've also tried with SIM card and NO SD and had the problem as well.
Also have to clarify that my miroSD card is a Class 2, SanDisk 8GB capacity, officialy supplied with the package. Never tried anything else.
Probably you also mean 8 GB and not Class 8, since, as far as I know, the fastest in the market is Class 6. Class 8 does not exist, you' ve made a mistake. Now, since last Monday, with Black Pearl 1.6 WWE installed, the device operates with no difficiencies, no freezing at all. Thats my news

kozalp said:
Is there a way to format the SD card from the device? I haven't tried that yet but I don't have a compatible card reader or an adapter either.
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Try SKTools

ktsak said:
As mentioned in previous message, I've also tried with SIM card and NO SD and had the problem as well.
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I just tried it hoping our problems might not be the same. I must point out that it DID make a difference in my case. I only managed to freeze it once since yesterday. (And I really tried hard!). And even then it was a different freeze than the other ones. The buttons still vibrated my device and I could still switch the screen on and off. I crashed it by opening 16 tabs in opera and then close opera, so it could be just opera crashing.....
The verry first freeze could have been the result of already corrupted data in memory since I didn't soft-reset it after I switched SD-cards...
So I still have some hope that formatting did the trick... some....
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Probably you also mean 8 GB and not Class 8..... you' ve made a mistake...
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Yes indeed I misread the tiny 6 for a 8 .... Re-examining it with a magnifying-glass, I could just see the difference
So it is an 8 GB class 6 micro SD card...
ktsak said:
Now, since last Monday, with Black Pearl 1.6 WWE installed, the device operates with no difficiencies, no freezing at all. Thats my news
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Well, that seems good news to me!
I'll use mine for a week or so, or untill it freezes on me again, and let you know.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah said:
Well, that seems good news to me! I'll use mine for a week or so, or untill it freezes on me again, and let you know.
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Last night i did install Black Pearl 1.7. This morning tried to open the device from StandBy mode, same problem No response. Tommorow morning I'm sending the device to the Sevice (local Reseller here in Greece) . Tired to flash again and again, in order to find a ROM that the device acts normally
Besides that, IMO this is not a ROM issue, nor other software issue. It is a HARDWARE problem

ktsak said:
Besides that, IMO this is not a ROM issue, nor other software issue. It is a HARDWARE problem
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I am sorry to hear that the ROM did not help.
My experiments failed also. Yesterday my Blackstone froze again.
I agree with you that it must be a hardware problem. (again after using close all...)
I think I will have to turn in my device too then, and go back to my Tytn II.
Damn, i didn't like my Tytn II from the start. (well.. from week three or so...) But at least I can trust it not to freeze on me...
Does anyone have any sugestions? anything we didn't try before?
Plz. help.
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah