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i ve a xda2 it fell in water and after that i got it dried n cleansed from a dealer but now the problem is that it only works upto the "align screen" intial setup and downt move any further i also tried to ugrade with WM5 bt same thing, Please help me. I shall be thankfull to all to you.
Kindly help
Hi,
try to clean board with isopropyl alcohol or in ultrasonic cleaner. Maybe it can help you.
jsec
Is it really dry? It can take some time...
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22275&highlight=
Andre
Replace the battery
I had the same problem after my mda ii went through the washing machine. Replacing the battery fixed the problem.
thanks guys for the replies , further my XDA had been properly dried and cleaned but now the problem is that the machine doesnt operate further than the "ALIGN SCREEN" setup where one has to tap the screen at four corners and the center one I tap the screen i return to the same screen as ask to tap the screen again.
Will flashing the rom serve any purpose or is it aa hardware problem, rest of the device seem to be ok even the bluetooth light flashes when i turn the XDA ok. But not able to get i any further from there.
So what do the experts have to say, Please reply.
thanks again
well, mine had very hot coffee poured all over it.
my suggestion to you would be, dont turn it on or place the battery for at least 3 days if under normal drying conditions only.
or if you know how to take it apart, spray everything with contact cleaner, it will dry up immediately,
then cross your fingers and hope nothing shorted out when it first went inot the water.
strategy is - wait - dry- wait - test - dry some more - spray contact cleaner - dry - test - until such time it works. coz some moisture might still be present and causing a little bit of short circuit.
It sounds more of a hardware issue than a software issue and you may have to take is apart to fix it.
Try two things, Number 1: (You need to use some latex or vinyl gloves if you need to take your unit apart). You are going to need to check your digitizer connection to the motherbaord, make sure you don't have any mosture trapped in the ribbon lock and make sure the entire front part of the digitizer is flush against the inside case edge. Number 2: Have you seperated the digitizer from the LCD yet? If this thing was in water the slightest spot of moisture will disrupt the very small electrical field between the digitizer and the LCD that recognizes the stylus taps. Abosolutly nothing should be present between the two and also around the white or grey strip on the inside of the digitizer for it is also a contact strip. You can use a lens cleaning cloth to clean any dust and moisture from the inside of the digitizer before you put it back together with the LCD. Being I worked on about 150 toshiba e750's that suffered sprinker damage in a fire, I learned quite bit on what makes a Pocket PC tick. Good luck with getting it working.
the same
I had the same problem 3 or 4 years ago with a HP Jornada 680 (handledPC). I must unfortunately say that I could never get my touchscreen working back again. Perhaps if you could change your screen for a new one, or at least one that always worked (some are sold around the www, even a few by members here if i remember).
Good luck
Shane
the stylus is working as the sceen responds to the tabs, but the process of calibarating the screen doesnt finish and keeps on repeating. and it asks to align the screen again.
The digitiser is working but the software doesnt seem to be working...
what do you have to say?
and thanks for the reply
guys thanks for the reply
but no luck... is there any sofware that can check if the components are working and ok, or simply what should i do. The info about the problem in a nut shell is
First the loading happpens with the O2 screen then the "Windows mobile screen says Tap the screen to setup the pocket pc" Then when i tap the screen next screen comes saying "ALIGN SCREEN" with a crosshair in the middle of the screen when i tap it with the stylus it moves till all four corners are tapped which crosshair point to. But now the problem begins.
The same screen repeats and asks for the same procedure again and again and again And the Xda processing doesnt move further.
i even flashed the ROM but same thing........
no luck
HELLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!
REPLACE THE BATTERY
Have you bought a new battery yet?
Like I said above, my MDAII went through the wash. Just like you, i got the align screen process followed by a spontaneous hard reset. I bought a new battery, charged it up in the cradle overnight, then popped it into my machine. Good as new.
Don't mess with the software until you try a brand new battery.
Cheap and effective.
Hmm, the touch screen is responding to taps, but maybe its a bit 'offset'.. I mean maybe when you tap exactly center, it will receive your tap to be a lot more offset to right, left, up or, down.. Cos that's what making the 'align screen' asks you to realign again and again..
Hi Tanvir,
I want some of the others to advise on what I am suggeting. On my xda I ( which I own as well as a Blue Angel) we are able to put it into boot mode and press the "action" or was it the "contact" button to get it into test mode. Being I don't own a Himalaya but I would guess that they would have that function too, and in that function it has a test for the aligment screen which it might be able to align in the test mode away from the OS running. If someone has the tip for helping Tanvir of getting his unit in to test mode, Please someone post it for him. Also being I don't own the XDA 2 if anyone has anything to add on my suggestions, the floor is open. let me know how it's going Tanvir. Cheers.
Shane
I'm sure Tanvir's digitizer is no more...
Go to www.ppctechs.com and purchase a new one... not that expensive!
Good luck!
Rayan
Hi shane,
thanks for the help and time i ll try the process u suggested and lets see what happens, i ll inform you if any luck,
An thanks to all the guys for helping,
Thanks
Tanvir
hi jamil
ive guessed that posibility too, but the question is there is no way to fid out if it s he reason...
thanks
tanvir
Guys, I hope you can help me!
I was using my Imate Jasjar when it was accidentally bumped by another person. the Jasjar fell but it wasn't that high and the floor was carpetted. However, I noticed that whenever i try to tap on the Start button on landscape mode, the calendar application opens up! And when I try to tap V-Bar on the other corner opposite the Start button, the Contacts application opens up. Basically, the soft keys on the bottom screen are the one opening up even if I'm tapping the ones on top! If I tap the bottom soft keys, I thought the Start button or my V-bar would come out but still the Calendar and Contacts applications were the ones that opened. Basically the everything on top cannot be tapped!
On Portrait mode, I can tap the start button but when the V-Bar was tapped it still opens the Contacts application.
I went to Settings then Screen to re-align the screen. I thought it would solve the problem but apparently it didn't! I was trapped in the Align Screen section giving me an endless loop to tap the 5 areas of the screen.
I now did a Hard Reset, and now I'm forever got stucked to the Align Screen part.
What am I supposed to do??? Please help!!!
Hi,
Seen the same problem... Try to guess the error margin of the alignment...
for example instead of tapping in the center of the cross try tapping on left or right... Since your screen isn't aligned you can't press on the center...
Now the problem is hardware, not the MB but the LCD...
After tou figure out the margin error, the Universal will resume and then you ca align the screen via Start->Settings->System, align screen
I'll try to know more about this problem asking my friend.
Best of luck
thanks for your reply!
i also believe that it has something to do with the LCD. there are no cracks whatsoever. problem with the aligning is i have to keep on guessing. and if ever i do align the screen successfully, i'm not sure if re-aligning the screen in Settings would solve the problem.
i would appreciate though if your friend or anybody else can shed light to a solution.
This is a simple problem to solve ;-)
When the allign screen is ON and you have to make the first tap on the crosshair (just before you start clicking away to allign your screen), twist your display from landscape to portrait mode...
Now continue to allign it as usual, and you should finish successfully!
Cheers,
San
unfortunately, after following your instructions, i still went on an endless loop on aligning the screen. i'll try to reflash the rom and see if it would work. i hope it does...
i updated my ROM. still stuck on the alignment screen!
any more ideas?
To be honest, sounds like your screen is broke. Even if you got it to align, I doubt it would be very usable. I think you are looking at repair - if there's no visible sign of damage, you might get away with a warranty repair.
Cheers,
Steve.
Hi
Few months back i've got exactly the same problems (odd LCD behavior, impossible alignment, etc...) with an HP4700. I went to the service center and they had to replace the LCD screen. They did not charge me and take it under warranty. In my case the unit did not drop and i made it clear to them. I would suggest you go back to the service center and forget about the drop in your problem description .
Cheers,
Bruno
I had the same thing happen on a HP 3700, I did not even drop it all i did was install the Quake game for it and after a few days the screen alignment went a bit out. It was usable but definately out by about 1 cm in each direction. The unit had not been dropped. I went into the allign screen utillity and ended up in the infinite loop. The only way to fix was a new screen. But unforunately it was no longer under warranty. The screen consists of 2 separate parts the lcd and the touch screen bit. In my case the lcd had no issues just the touch screen. Very annoying but there you go.
Search your soul and do what you feel comfortable with.
Good luck
Charlie
thanks for all your replies!
i've made several searches yesterday with similar problems (even if they're using different PPC models) and they all ended up sending back their units for repair. there's even one who posted in expansys with the same exact problem!
we'll be sending it back through expansys (we got the unit from them) and hopefully get it back before the end of the month. and yes, i won't tell them that it was dropped, he he :twisted: and they won't find evidence either on the outside because there are no physical damages. what a start of the new year for me <sigh>
right now i'm back using my XDA IIi.
thanks for all your support! this is my first thread/topic in this site and it's so unfortunate that it had to be sort of a negative one. looking forward to be active more here!
Hello there
This might help (I am currently wrking with 200 PDAs so have had this a few times)
THere may be a iece of dust/biscuit crumb etc, under the edge of the casing above the screen, try using a post it note or paper and go around the casing/edge of screen, this should clear the screen of anything that may be causing this problem.
THis worked for me on the majority of non-aligning screens
HTH
DB
My story was, one day when I needed to twist the screen, it was a bit stuck so I twisted a bit harder, yes it went back. Then few days later, the mis-alignment started and since then I have been keeping to do re-alignment my screen.
My screen is mis-aligned once every 2 or 3 days or even few minutes then I have to re-align by using WM5's alignment program. It sometimes takes me 2 or 3 times or even one time.
The most anoying thing is it keeps forget after aligned screen.
Now, certainty, I don't think it is a screen problem because after running alignment app, it correctly pointed into the right spot but then it forgot where the right position was.
I have done the upgraded ROM ( even tried Ivan AKU 3.2 ROM ) but problem still persisted.
I just tried clean up the edge of screen, finger cross, hope it fixes my problem.
Bad thing is, I bought my device from UK and I am living in Australia so therefore, my warranty is definately invalid. I don't want to spend 200 AUD for the new screen ( unless I am 100% sure that LCD is faulty ).
Anyone has any idea or even a better suggestion because I don't see many people having this problem.
I suspects that maybe the flex cable got ripped but not totally ripped. Don't know , please help me out on this one
Best regards
Anyone has any idea about my problem ??
One question :
I know that the flex cable has 2 connectors ( one is for LCD display and another is for LCD function ). Now does LCD function relate to the touch screen function ? and if one tiny wire of the function cable got cracked, but not totally cracked, will it affect the touch screen function ?
Other thing, does WM5 store any setting relating to screen alignment setting ? If yes, where is it ?
Thanks
Hi, from another forum, it only help to bypass the alignement loop:
"here you go theses are simple steps to bypass the touchscreen alignment.
Install you activesyn blah blah blah when it finds it go on my computer and go into your PDA device
go to windows startup and delete the Welcome file
after that give your PPC a soft reset and BAM u by passed the screen now get a free desktop program liek pocket controller from the internet it will automatically install on your pda and BAM you can control your pda add music and whatever
but now if you want to click stuff on the road get pen irazu just search on google and send it to your PDA then go to file explorer and double click it and you got a cute little mouse program that you can use like a stylus"
also try this little soft:
http://www.codefactory.es/downloads/mobile_speak_pocket/release/MSP_RemoteAlignment.zip
Hope it helps.
MaX
Hi godtakeit!
I've had the same problem a few weeks ago (and still having it from time to time) and for me a slight (very careful) bending of the screen makes it work again. It seems to me that there are connector behind or near the display which has some loose contacts.
Did you notice any other problems which came in conjuction with the alignment problem (e.g. speaker not working)?
.ox
Hi oxident
No, I don't have problem with speaker ( it was not working before but it is because of the jack plug problem - it solved ). Yeah, I did notice if I bend the screen carefully, the problem is gone. The funny thing is when I aligned the screen, it worked but if I closed it off and left it over night, it started again when I opened the lid.
You may right about the connector between LCD screen and mainboard. Well, I have no choice but openning the device and check it up.
Also, I read the thread somewhere in this forum and somebody advised this problem maybe relates to magnet around device. My brother aslo advised me that LCD charged and reserved negative electrons. Wierd but I am experiment it at the moment ( taking off battery and leave the device for a few days so that it can release the negative electrons ).
Hope it fixes
please help
i have an imate jas jam that i i got from my father he used it for like 3 years and it is pretty banged up so i cant use the warranty and repairs cost a lot, any who i got it yesterday and it was very slow so i reset the settings and now im stuck on the align screen it keeps going on for ever and ever if any one knows any thing plzzzz help
Welcome aboard
You have one of the best HTC devices ever made!
Have a look here to locate the solution to your prob:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549207
Post number 2
Good luck,
I've done everything I could do without taking apart the phone.
I don't know what's wrong, sometimes it will work sometimes it won't.
Now though, I reinstalled WM5 (latest cingular build) and I have to tap the screen to start using it, but the screen won't work.
that happened to me when I put a screen protector on my phone. I took off the protector and the phone worked again
I dont have one of those.
Has the mobile fallen on the ground? Make sure the screen doesn't have any dust on the borders... if there is contact on the screen on any point, it won't recognize any other point of touch (multi-touch is not supported by our screens).
I'll try cleaning that out when I get a can of compressed air
I got it to work for a second so I can use the phone. Now I just want it to always work.
dferreira said:
Has the mobile fallen on the ground? Make sure the screen doesn't have any dust on the borders... if there is contact on the screen on any point, it won't recognize any other point of touch (multi-touch is not supported by our screens).
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Thanks so much for this post!!
The other day my touch screen stopped responding to my taps.. The lcd worked fine and I could still navigate with the buttons, it just wouldn't respond to touch..
So I was almost ready to take my phone apart to see if the digitizer connection was loose.. I decided to search around and see what other ppl had to say about TS problems.
I read this post and started to go around the edges of the screen with a business card and lo and behold it started to work again.. Must've just been some dirt up in there.. You just saved me a huge headache!
Thanks dferreira
My screen is all white now.
Anyone know how to take apart the phone, I'm thinkin my ribbon is not connected right.
I've looked left, right and centre for answers on this but I now admit defeat - I can't figure out why my digitizer loses it's alignment after a few minutes.
I've read about this happening with other models but not so much with Himalayas. Mine is an Orange SPV M1000 and originally came with Windows 2003. After a week I upgraded to 2003SE and was initially fine, then all of a sudden the digitizer alignment started to drift. I.e. you'd tap for example the OK button and the clock would come up instead. It seemed to register taps a bit to the left to where I was actually tapping.
Thinking it was a software issue I upgraded to WM5 but the problem continued. Going back to the original 2003 seemed to fix it, then I gave 2003SE another go with a different ROM. It was ok for a month but yesterday it started again.
I opened the PDA up and removed the screen foams as suggested elsewhere but to no avail. The alignment only lasts for a few taps then starts drifting again.
What causes this??? Is it a software bug? Hardware problem? Hard reset makes no difference. Should I just go back to 2003 and hope for the best?
Help someone!
Thanks...
I had the same problem with my previous PDA, Palm Vx. Back then it was surely a hardware problem, but I never heard that a himalaya suffers from that defect as well.
Try using a brush to clean dust and sand at the adges of the screen. Even a single grain of sand can cause this problem.
Good luck!
Screen alignment problem
Hey guys my O2 XDA 2i is not starting . after the welcome screen, it shows the screen alignment screen. and you just keep tapping for ages and it never boots further. what should i do??? any body has a solution?? I have connected it to active sync and i can access the files . but the phone is not ready to go further.
i have this problem now >.<
I fear your touch screen has snuffed it my friend. My XDA2 was doing exactly the same thing. There is a topic in this forum about the touchscreen which i have posted on.
You basically are looking around £30 for a screen with the digitiser attached, look on ebay. You need patience, opening the pda is tricky. You must remove the screen to find out which replacement you need (there are two different types). You can remove the touchpad from the actual screen and replace but this will involve soldering.... trust me when i say a straight swap will save you alot of time and cussing.
Hope this helps!
Sorry..... to avoid confusion i was posting about the PDA being stuck at the screen alignment stage from cold boot as dhawalkedar posted.
I'm sorta new and not exactly sure how to submit questions.
I installed the SPB mobile shell on my elfin htc and now the touch features don't work and my phone won't sleep without what appears to be the backlight on. Can someone provide some directions on how to fix this? Can't get to the bootloader either.
if you reset your device, can't it boot up into windows mobile?
if it boots up, why not connect it to the pc and try removing the last app through activesync?
if there isn't anything that important on the device, did you think of a hard reset?
Thanks for the quick response, however, I did do a soft reset, the screen is not responding (completely frozen). I've already removed the program, I thought was the culprit (spb mobile shell). I did a backup, but without touch features, I can't restore backup. I can't do a hard reset that's not working properly either. Any additional ideas, I'm at a complete lost.
Hi
Touchscreen of my HTC Touch (P3452) stopped working. I tired following:
- hard reset
- hard reset successful, then It asked me to tap the screen for alignment then I tap, it worked but on Calibrate screen where you align your screen touch is not working. nothing is happening after that even power button is not working. my Touch is not hanged coz if I touch the screen after It goes to sleep, the backlight will turn on.
So I though may be something wrong with the original ROM, then I tired flashing it with cooked ROM's but nothing worked.
I am still stuck at calibiration screen
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Plz help, I miss my HTC Touch (P3452) so much!!!
If your touchscreen is not working, there could be only 2 solutions.
- Get a digitizer off dealextreme.com
- Hard reset device.
my $0.02.
Cheers.
What's a digitzer and what does it do? I've looked in cell phone accessories and did a search on dealextreme.com, however, unable to locate such an item. Can you provide a little more detail. Desperately trying to get this phone to work and right now this appears to be the only solution. Hard reset isn't working.
toot-b said:
What's a digitzer and what does it do? I've looked in cell phone accessories and did a search on dealextreme.com, however, unable to locate such an item. Can you provide a little more detail. Desperately trying to get this phone to work and right now this appears to be the only solution. Hard reset isn't working.
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Come on, Google man!
http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.506~search.htc touch digitizer
Digitizer is a 'panel' which is above the LCD, which senses where your hand is at on the phone.
Something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet
It is just something which sense where is your fingers are in the touchscreen.
Hi toot-b:
I had a similar problem a few days ago. My screen stopped working completely. I gave it a few taps and a squeeze and it started working.
After a while it stopped working again and did not respond to the squeezing too. Then out of desperation, I tried searching the internet. One guy had given the most idiotic explanation I've ever come across.
He had advised to take a blade and peel away the LCD screen and after taking the screen away, to rub the copper contacts with the blade and then putting it back in!!!
Well, I was really really desperate and I had to try it. I didn't remove the screen completely. I just took the screen off a wee little bit on the bottom right corner near the camera button. I kinda got scared after that and put it back in.
To my surprise, the touch screen started working perfectly and till now its doing great. Try it at your own risk. All the best!!!!
theo2409 said:
Hi toot-b:
I had a similar problem a few days ago. My screen stopped working completely. I gave it a few taps and a squeeze and it started working.
After a while it stopped working again and did not respond to the squeezing too. Then out of desperation, I tried searching the internet. One guy had given the most idiotic explanation I've ever come across.
He had advised to take a blade and peel away the LCD screen and after taking the screen away, to rub the copper contacts with the blade and then putting it back in!!!
Well, I was really really desperate and I had to try it. I didn't remove the screen completely. I just took the screen off a wee little bit on the bottom right corner near the camera button. I kinda got scared after that and put it back in.
To my surprise, the touch screen started working perfectly and till now its doing great. Try it at your own risk. All the best!!!!
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Do you have some photos to show us?
Cheers