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www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Hello,
My MDA is set up to grab my exchange email, etc over the air through activesync. When I set up the account on the MDA, the setup wizard told me that I could set the account to grab new messages as they arrive. That of course sounds great so I chose that option.
Anyway, occasionally (not always) when I receive a new message on the exchange account, I get a text message silmultaneously with the same from address and subject as the new exchange email that arrived. I assume that "directpush" works by sending out these texts to trigger an activesync. However, as I mentioned, i don't ALWAYS get these texts. Also, it appears that I occasionally get texts a day after the message arrives in my inbox and even after I know I've read and deleted the message from my MDA.
Regardless of the sporadic nature of the texts, shouldn't the MDA keep them hidden from me? It's a little frustrating having to go thru and delete all these erroneous messages.
Any suggestions as to how I can clean this mess up?
First you need to provide more information.
What Rom are you using?
Only AKU 2.x Roms support Direct Push and then you need to have the correct version of Exchange Server (I think 2k5 sp2).
Direct Push does not use SMS but rather a heartbeat via GPRS.
I believe the old version of AS with Exchange Server used SMS (1.x Roms).
Thanks for the response.
I'm using xelencin's rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53300
I have "direct push" turned on via the comm mgr. My office uses exchange 2k3, not sure what service pack. I don't believe there is such a thing as 2k5.
I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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I might have typed the version number wrong, haven't been an exchange guy for many years. I would suggest talking to the guys responsibly for it and see if they support "MSFP".
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The thing is, it works. I get mesages delivered to my phone nearly instantly. However, my SMS box is full of useless crap and this dilutes the usefullness of SMS in general.
That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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That would lead me to believe that the exchange server doesn't support the true Push and since the Rom does it isn't disposing of the SMS as that is the old method.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll get a hold of the exchange admin weds and see if he can do anything for me.
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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pmow said:
It's Exchange 2003 Service Pack 2...
Are you receiving these texts if you eliminate the exchange server relationship?
(domain can be case-sensitive)
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Interesting. I removed the relationship from activesync (activesync basically now asks me to set up sync with a pc or exchange server), but I'm still getting the texts. Sometimes, I'm getting duplicate texts. They're all coming from "701" if that helps.
HALP!
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This is most odd. Another strange thing is that you mentioned that you got the option to get new messages as they arrive. That would happen pre AKU2 and SP2. I'd really suspect that your IT guys haven't really gone from SP1 to SP2 as you should not get that option during the AS configuration.
Also, I know that a big concern was that originally MS was thinking of using SMS which was a major pia as we have to purchase that "add-in" from Cingular and get charged for any SMS over our limit. In other words, you might want to see if you're getting charged by T-Mobile....
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Is there anyway for me to check the version of exchange as a user?
Ya, the SMS thing is a concern for me. I had to sign up for a text plan on tmobile so that I don't end up oweing a fortune at the end of the month!
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
Also, I just re set up my exchange OTA active sync. I get a "pop up" saying that I can synch as items arrive. When I go into "schedule", there's a link there to set that up which then asks for "Text messaging address for this device". Previously, I put in [email protected] which seems to work, but maybe I need to enter it differently some how?
That's a good question, determining Exchange SP level remotely. I just tried my OWA but it tells me nothing. I'll keep looking.
Steven
I have an idea.
It appears that even the new versions of exchange have the feature "AUTD" which does the SMS message triggered update. I set up the exchange account for "auto update" 2 times now, but haven't set it up a 3rd. Is it possible that when the user configures the auto update feature, it triggers the AUTD sms messaging bit on the server? Since I've done it twice, I'm now getting two sms messages per incoming email. However, previously, when i had pocket outlook configured to handle the auto-update bit, it was concealing one of the two identical SMS's, but not the other.
I'm sure I explained this horribly, but it was worth a shot.
Not sure why I didn't notice this earlier...
I'm getting texts related to ALL of my email accounts configured on the device. This includes the exchange account mentioned earlier, but also two GMAIL accounts. For what it's worth, I set these two gmail accounts up through the tmobile set up wizard and later deleted the accounts from the device in an attempt to test things out. When the accounts were setup, they seemed to be grabbing the mail through a tmobile proxy or something instead of directly from the gmail servers.
No idea why I'm getting these messages, but this is getting crazy!
Stranger and stranger! I think that I would contact T-Mobile asap and cancel that SMS. I personally have never had any need for Texting, etc but people have different needs.
What I would start out with is to hard reset the phone after syncing it. Then I'd delete the partnership with AS. I'd setup my Exchange by installing your Exchange server's Security Certificate on your device(which you should keep on your SD card), configuring the AS on the device, never connecting to the PC. Wait a while to setup your GMail accounts, etc. ... one step at a time.
Good luck!
Steven
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RESOLVED!
Ok, I think I figured it out.
T-mobile apparently uses these text messages to trigger email synchs.
I logged into my tmobile account and decided to pay attention to the "t-zones" section for the first time. "Setup My E-Mail" takes you to a page that allows you to configure email accounts for your device. It also allows you to check your email for those accounts. Anyway, there's an "Alerts" section that you can configure and it appears to relate to these texts that I've been receiving. Even my exchange account was configured here and was setup to send the text messages.
Additionally, it appears that I wasn't being charged for the texts. None of them have shown up in my online bill.
I believe that ALL of this was the result of using the tmobile email setup wizard that's included on the phone xelencin's cooked rom.
Whew, I feel like I've solved a puzzle.
Good for you! Makes sense now...
I've never run that email wizard myself, always manually create the accounts.
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I have my Messaging service linked to 5 different email accounts. Is there way to receive email from all of them at once? Currently, I have to open each account, and hit the send/receive button (a bit of a time waster). I use wi-fi, so I like to receive only when there is a connection. Thanks.
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I have my Messaging service linked to 5 different email accounts. Is there way to receive email from all of them at once? Currently, I have to open each account, and hit the send/receive button (a bit of a time waster). I use wi-fi, so I like to receive only when there is a connection. Thanks.
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Rather unhelpful I know, but given that the 'send/receive' command is only available on a per account basis I would guess you are doing the best that you can.
There may of course be other PPC e-mail clients (other than Pocket OutlooK) that can do what you want.
You might want to consider senting the accounts (each one seperately) to automatically collect the mail - then you'd achieve what you want without actually having to hit send/recieve manually. You could have this work only with WiFi or an Activesync connection by disabling the data connection - this would stop it from connecting and (presumably for you) causing expensive data connection charges. Of course if the data connection charge is not an issue then simply leave it enbaled and you will effectively achieve push mail (albeit auto pull in fact).
Regards
good idea, i will just switch to alternative email client. will check out profimail, any other suggestions?
lpreagan said:
good idea, i will just switch to alternative email client. will check out profimail, any other suggestions?
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Take a look here: http://palmtops.about.com/od/pocketpctoppick1/tp/ppc_email.htm I used WebIS Mail in the past but not sure if it will pull accounts at once.
lpreagan said:
I have my Messaging service linked to 5 different email accounts. Is there way to receive email from all of them at once? Currently, I have to open each account, and hit the send/receive button (a bit of a time waster). I use wi-fi, so I like to receive only when there is a connection. Thanks.
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There is an app for this, I saw it on Energy's latest ROM, but alas, I can't find it and have jumped to ROMeOS2. I will keep looking, and post back if I find it. I am in the exact same situation: 5 accts, use wi-fi exclusively. Prefer to hit 1 button, due to my lazyness, erm, time management etc hehe.
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Found it, here, on this wonderful site, of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501254
lpreagan said:
I have my Messaging service linked to 5 different email accounts. Is there way to receive email from all of them at once? Currently, I have to open each account, and hit the send/receive button (a bit of a time waster). I use wi-fi, so I like to receive only when there is a connection. Thanks.
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Try my application rk-OSR, has much more than what you wanted
Link under my signature
Regards
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There is an app for this, I saw it on Energy's latest ROM, but alas, I can't find it and have jumped to ROMeOS2. I will keep looking, and post back if I find it. I am in the exact same situation: 5 accts, use wi-fi exclusively. Prefer to hit 1 button, due to my lazyness, erm, time management etc hehe.
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Found it, here, on this wonderful site, of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501254
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thanks for the link. I was searching for the exact thing
I was wondering if its possible to get pushmail for gmail without using outlook ?
Is this possible ? Am I supposed to use IMAP or POP mail ?
Please help, thanks
If you setup mail, it will automatically setup for IMAP.
You configure for how often it checks the server.
Thanks I just did that, but the problem is it checks every 5 minutes, thats not exactly push mail is it ?? It should have the option "As mail arrives"
I tried deleting an email from my inbox, but when I check online, its still there (the actual gmail inbox) .. it seems they are not really in function are they ?
EDIT : Okay The messages got deleted in the browser inbox after 5 minutes ... So the email syncs every 5 minutes
How can I make it an instant connection (pushmail) ??
Actually Outlook Mobile 2007/2010 still pulls from IMAP instead of receiving pushes (Microsoft doesn't exactly know about IDLE). You'll want to set up an Exchange connection. See here for more details about Google Sync.
You'll want to configure the server manually. You can find ActiveSync somewhere into your Start menu, otherwise just go to the Sense settings tab, Data Service and ActiveSync to configure the server, then follow the instructions from the link above.
Thank you very much, that worked, and I can choose "As item arrives" now
One last thing, is it possible to change the email name from Outlook to something else ? e.g. Gmail ?
ZaZu90, what domain did you choose while configuring the connection? I can't click next unless I choose a domain, since the activesync software is different and probably newer than the one used in the google instructions...
I followed Yunabeco's link, the domain was left blank.
You have to initiate the email settings from active sync, not from adding a new account.
Check the intsturctions ^^
Yes I am trying to do the same but as I said I cannot leave the domain blank, i HAVE to fill in something in order to continue configuring the connection...
And apparently I am not the only one with this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5382949&postcount=4
Hmm this is strange, does it have to do with the location of purchase ?
Im not sure :S
I don't think it has to do with the location of purchase. Thanks for your help though. I am using dutty's holy grail 0.3a rom (wm6.5 build 21889, Base 2.01). What are you using?
Chaps,
have you had a look at this ....http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
Might help you.
WB
Yea, that's the same document as earlier in this thread, but the problem is that the instructions don't work on some devices.. see the previous page
I just did the Push Mail setup (used the link from Yunabeco post)
I had no problem with the instructions, but for some reason it will only get the mail when I do an ActiveSync.
The ActiverSync chedule is set to sync during Peak times (As Items arrive) and off-peak times (As Items arrive).
The Use above settings and Send/Receive when I click Send) are als set to on.
Did I miss a setting as it's not working for me the way it should, or do I need to set something in my Gmail account also?
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Yea, that's the same document as earlier in this thread, but the problem is that the instructions don't work on some devices.. see the previous page
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Barty,
Surprised at this. I set this up the other day on my device in order to talk someone through it and it worked. Deleted it as I don't need push mail right now.
Wondered if those who can't get it working can put down the steps they have taken to setup on their devices and we can see how we can help?
WB
I wonder if its possible to set up multiple push mail accounts ?
Gonna search for that now, if anyone got a link before I finish my little research, please add it !
Are there any ways to enable or simulate "push" email on POP or IMAP accounts?
I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
I'm looking for the same thing.
I found this other thread here which can be what you are looking for.. (oh, I can't post links as I'm new).
Search for the thread called: SchedHandler 1.74 / Scheduler for PUSH EMAIL+Polling/execute/switch/etc
In the windows mobile apps / games subforum.
Use Gmail with the IMAP service and Activesync - this seems to work reasonably effectively as a push email service.
Shasarak,
See this thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612644
WB
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There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
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lol @ the troll
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
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download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
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The built-in Windows Live application does push email very nicely for hotmail - no download needed. But I was asking about POP or IMAP email accounts.
I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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There is apparently a way to make gmail send through another account, I can't get it to work.
Same here, I just took the plunge and configured my gmail account for push, and fetching from my 3 usual POP3s. It seems to work pretty well, but the reply email address is indeed always the gmail one even if I set the address to be "address the message was sent to", or even just set another address as default.
Gmail can be a bit slow as well, it seems it checks the POP3 about every 5 mins. Push can take from 30 seconds to 10 minutes. When replying, the outgoing mail appears in the desktop inbox right after the mail was sent from the device, but there can be a delay until it's actually sent out, I tried twice, and once it took 20 mins and the other 2 mins only.
So you'd better not be too stressed, but it definitely beats having to check manually, sometimes 10 times in a row, times 3 accounts, for nothing as there's no new mail...
Hosted Exchange is very affordable and solves all the problems people have with technologies like IMAP4 and POP3, which really are out-dated, and, in the case of IMAP4, not consistently implemented.
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I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
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Yes there is, and is provided by a company called Seven, for free. http://www.seven.com/ . Give it a try.
I use it on my Treo Pro and it works fine. Sign up for a Seven account, download the cab file and configure your POP or IMAP accounts.
**NOTE**
If you're using GMAIL (which is IMAP), Google provides free push for GMAIL via Exchange Activesync (Google Sync, you get push GMAIL, contacts, calendar). Go here http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
OK, when I logged in to gmail this morning I could see that it was now polling my POP3 only every hour or so. It says it decides the polling interval on how often you get messages, and that it's not possible to define one manually. So that can lead to long delays.
So instead of having gmail poll my POP3, I've now set my server to forward everything to gmail. It's a lot better now, I get the mail on my phone within 5 mins max.
It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
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Can you expand your point?
As far as I am aware Push Email is when the MDA pushes the mail to the MUA at the point of the mail arriving on the MDA as opposed to the MUA polling the MDA for new mail at a predetermined time.
Without going into all your TLA's, Push email is effectively the server saying I have an email for this client and pushing it to the device telling the device, "heh I got an email for you, catch!" like the way Blackberry works.
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
Heh ho and all that malarky...
Edit: on re-reading (I am at work so may have skimmed it a bit quickly) maybe my original comment wasn't relevant to the post. Ah well
Starfury said:
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
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I think we understand the distinction between pull and push just fine, thanks.
My question was whether there is a way to make an email account based on POP or IMAP behave as if it were push-based. Use of IMAP IDLE should achieve this (if I understand it correctly - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE). I was also inviting other suggestions.
to reiterate my earlier point google mail does free exchange connection to their POP/IMAP service, you can realtime sync mail, contacts and calendar data, its pushnot pull.