i could use some help for using gmail/hotmail with pocket outlook.
i tried using the pHotmail program but it doesnt work.. i guess i need an 2gb account which costs $20 per year for using (pocket) outlook and hotmail together??
for Gmail i use the following settings:
Incoming Mail: pop.gmail.com:995
Outgoing Mail: smtp.gmail.com:465
Domain: www.gmail.com
under Options checked "Require SSL Connection" "Outgoing mail requires authentication" "Use separate settings"
Clicked Outgoing Settings
Entered my username, password, checked "Require SSL for outgoing mail"
Domain: www.gmail.com
now i have 2 problems with the Gmail:
1) after i have read an email it disappears from the pocket outlook inbox (its still in the gmail-inbox since thats what i selected at gmail-forwarding and pop settings)
2) i cant seem to send any messages.. they stay in my outbox instead of being send.. also pOutlook gives the message that it cant download any messages when i try to send an email
i tried some different outgoing-mail settings like note using ssl, but it doesnt make a difference
seems im missing something :roll:
edit: typo
problem 1 has resolved itself
but i still cant send emails using pocket outlook with Gmail...
also with "pocket email checker" aka "httpmail checker" i cant even open the inbox. it keeps saying "error"
anyone else had this problem?? could a different rom solve the problem? im now using the standard dutch t-mobile rom.
the problem was that i filled in the domain name (www.gmail.com)
when i left it empty it worked and i am now able to send and receive emails using Gmail.
however i would still like someone to tell me how to use pocketHotmail :!:
pOutlook does find the folders which i use in hotmail (example: i have a folder named school and poutlook now has that folder without me making it) but when i pres send/receive it doesnt say connecting but instead waits about 3 seconds and then says finished...
i tried settings:
incoming: hotmail/pop.hotmail.com
ssl: not required and required
filling in the domain and leaving it empty
sorry if my questions seem dumb, ive got my universal for 7 days now and ive read alot here and in other topics but not everything...
Question on problem 1?
any idea how problem 1 resolved itself? i have the same problem. i've read the other posts and made the suggested changes, but no difference - the email disappears the next time i sync whether or not i've read it.
thx
this is because you probably have it set to: get full copy of messages
this way gmail sees you alreaddy downloaded the message and doesnt send it again to poutlook.
poutlook sees gmail doesnt send the email header anymore and deletes it.
smart thinking of both programs, but doesnt combine well :wink:
try using: get message headers only. and download 999kb of the message (entire message) body
this will probably get rid of the problem you have.
ha, works like a charm! thank you
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I would like to read my gmail email in MS Outlook on my computer, and while I am away from it, read the new only emails (the ones not yet downloaded to desktop) from my T-mobile MDA.
The way I understand it is done is to POP emails to desktop (which deletes them from the email server) and use IMAP on the mobile device to read whatever is not POPped yet. The problem is that Google’s Gmail does not support IMAP protocol. So how do I do this then, other than to change to an email provider who supports both POP and IMAP?
In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder.
I think what you need to do is change the settings in MS Outlook on your desktop to leave a copy of the email on the server for x number of days. On your PDA change the imap server settings to only download the last x number of messages or messages that were received in the last x number of days. I don't use a POP server anymore but you should be able to use the "tools" then "email accounts" then "view or change exisiting email accounts" and look for something along the lines of leave copy/copies of email on the server so that way Outlook doesn't delete them from the server.... In terms of the POP settings on the PDA make sure that it is never deleting emails off the server otherwise you are going to be faced with "dissapearing" email messages.
Hopefully this helps or someone else can be more helpful.
go to your gmail account, in the settings you can set it to be accessable through POP, do that. Dont forget to set it to leave a copy on the server
On your PDA you need to configure Outlook to accept the gmail accout.
go Start > Programs > Messaging
at bottom of screen choose Accounts
click New
enter email address click next
enter Your Name, User name, Password ( I leave the save password box ticked as I am idle ) click next
choose account type POP3
choose Name POP3 (unless you have option to choose another name you like better) click next
in server information
set Incoming as pop.gmail.com
set Outgoing as smtp.gmail.com
click the options button, page 2 of 3 check Outgoing requires server auth , check box Require SSL
click next
box now shows all Accounts as New, Text Message, POP3
click the OK top right of screen
thats it, done.
Wizzer said:
In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder
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...and hence not downloaded to the desktop if I understand correctly.
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On your PDA change the imap server settings...
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Gmail does not support IMAP unfortunately. Also, I do not want to go by the number of days or number of messages because those things are not known in advance. I only want to pop email to my computer, and read whatever is not popped to the computer from the mobile device.
tbc_borg, the instructions are helpful if I only wanted to read email from the road. But after email is downloaded to the device, Gmail does not pop it to the desktop, which is not good for me.
I think I found how to do this.
I got another gmail address, set up forwarding of everything from the main email to the second one (with the original left in the main Inbox). I pop everything from the main email to the desktop and from the second email address to the Wizard. I will be receiving duplicate emails to both desktop and the mobile device, but that is better than having only half of emails on the desktop. Any better ideas? I searched extensively, found nothing smarter (well, again, other than finding an email provider that supports both pop and imap protocols).
I had the same problem. What I did was open a second relay a/c, eg [email protected]. I then added a forward on all mails from my normal gmail account to the relay account. On my phone I have my incoming mail server set to the relay account but my outgoing server set to my normal account. This means that all your mails will be forwarded to the relay account and when you want to reply to any of them on the phone it will send them from your normal account!
Bit of a roundabout way of doing things but works fine!
WOW, good hint with the different outgoing server, decmac! It works just as expected!
But I noticed something else that is wrong. I send a test email to my main email address, it gets forwarded to the relay email address. Send/receive from computer, receive the email fine. Send/receive from Wizard, receive it fine as well. So far so good. However, when I send/receive from the Wizard again, the email message that has just been downloaded gets DELETED and is nowhere to be found on the device (not even in "Deleted Items" folder.) I wonder what I have missed in the settings somewhere.
Yeah, that's a problem. It seems to only keep a current copy of your Gmail inbox on the phone so when you do send/receive it overwrites everything. What I have done to get around this is select "Get Message headers only" and select "Include x Kb of message body" Make x big enough to get all of your messages. It then keeps my messages in my inbox until I either delete it or select "Get entire message and any attachments" in the email message.
Not sure if this would work but maybe move messages into a local folder on the phone. Haven't tried this but in theory it should work! The above works perfect for me!
Perfect! It works!
Vielen Dank!
Kein Problem
I have set up a new pop3 account with my home isp blueyonder. they had some problems the other day with sending email through there smtp server. Now my outbox (in folder view) shows 1 unread message; but if I go to look in the folder it is empty. I do not have "show only last 3 days" checked. if I connect to the account via webmail all looks fine. it appears that something is stuck on my vario 2. other than deleting the account is there any way of sorting this small annoying problem?
This happens when I send/receive via my gmail account on my phone. I'm currently investigating... I've also had an issue where Pocket Outlook doesn't correctly authenticate with the SMTP server (on my own personal address) before trying to send emails, resulting in 550 no unauthorised relaying allowed. Also investigating this, as my POutlook is setup correctly.
Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one experiencing this issue.
Hi, sorry I can't be of some help to you on your issue, but this pocket outlook is so crap, on my accounts I have it set to automatically connect and check for mail...well if there is mail in my gmail inbox..read or unread..and it connects and checks for mail..it clears out my inbox, it will say I have messages and list the sender and subject in the notification, but the inbox will be empty, then theres the imap issue of not putting sent messages in the sent folder, very aggrivating to not have a decent mail client, I tried Flexmail..it lists gmail as an auto configure...but that's just bs...cause all that does is list the "@gmail.com" not any ports or ssl settings...so I manually configured it..then it spazzes on the password screen and won't continue, not to mention I set it as default one time I installed and it totally jacked up pocket outlook..which led to hard reset number 1.
Sorry to rant off topic, but after reading others woes about pocket outlook, I couldn't stfu
nice (sorry) to see others having problems too! from your replies I am doing well. I also noticed the IMAP problem too, when connecting to ny bluyonder account the webmails deleted items were "trash" and would not be deleted
Hi, sorry I can't be of some help to you on your issue, but this pocket outlook is so crap, on my accounts I have it set to automatically connect and check for mail...well if there is mail in my gmail inbox..read or unread..and it connects and checks for mail..it clears out my inbox, it will say I have messages and list the sender and subject in the notification, but the inbox will be empty
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If it's the disappearing Google Mail emailsyou're talking about then the solution is to set it to retrieve headers and set it to 999KB
athiqueahmed said:
If it's the disappearing Google Mail emailsyou're talking about then the solution is to set it to retrieve headers and set it to 999KB
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Thanks for the info, I'll give that a shot..I had had it set to receive full copy of messages.
And sorry again about your post timbouk.
Hiya ppl,
I have a strange problem on my MDA Vario II. I am losing emails sent to my pop3/imap account since I set up my mobile device to poll for email. I set up an account on the device using the email wizard and have tried collection from both pop3 and imap servers.
What I am finding is this: When I wake up in the morning I often get a notification of new email on my device, I can see the header in the notification bubble but when I try and read it I find the message has been deleted from the server.
I have my device set to poll every 15 mins. I can see no setting to leave email on the server. I do not know if the default action is to download and delete the message from the server or not.
Has anybody else experienced this? Please help!
I have tried the mail2web service but I also want to view my email on my pc with outlook. It doesn't seem that you can do that using this service.
Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
Do you have anything else checking that email address? If so, that program could be downloading and deleting your email so that your device can no longer get it.
Hi, I think this was the problem I was having awhile back too, in the mail settings do you have "get full copy of messages" enabled? if so make it "get message header only" and include "999" kb of message body, that should keep the messages on your phone untill you delete em.
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Hi, I think this was the problem I was having awhile back too, in the mail settings do you have "get full copy of messages" enabled? if so make it "get message header only" and include "999" kb of message body, that should keep the messages on your phone untill you delete em.
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Also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290662
@Trancecoder - only outlook, but no automatic downloading of email.
@ChaoticDruid - yes, my settings were "get full copy of messages". I didn't realise this would delete email from the server though. I have now set "get message header only" and so far so good. Is this a bug?
@Menneisyys - (wish I could work out how to pronounce your name!) wow an answer from the god himself ;-) I don't have a gmail account but the info about not downloading a full copy of the messages seems to have done the trick. Is this a bug or am I misunderstanding the operation on POutlook?
Thank you all for your help,
Shaun.
Problems still
Alas I still have problems. I am now able to retrieve unread email on both my Vario (with POutlook + "get message header only") and PC (With Outlook 2003) without it vanishing, but once read, the email vanishes from the server sometime afterwards.
I guess this must be a problem with my provider Blueyonder :-(
I still think it could be Outlook doing this. Go to Tools --> E-mail accounts --> View/edit (Next) and make sure that your IMAP/POP3 account is selected under "Deliver new e-mail to the following location".
@Trancecoder I am not sure if I understand you. In Outlook Tools --> E-mail accounts --> under "Deliver new e-mail to the following location", Personal folders is selected. I cannot see a selection for IMAP/POP3 here.
I see. I assumed it would be there because it's there for my Exchange mailbox. I guess I was wrong. Sorry about that.
No probs. I will have to disable email checking on my device until I figure this one out.
Sorted!
I have ahem fixed the problem I had with losing email. It was an ID10T error! I am too embarassed to explain what the problem was, except is was of my own doing. There was no problem with POutlook. Apologies for wasting ppl's time.
Don't apologise! I, myself am an expert supreme on these kinds of errors, however, I thought I was alone! If not for forums like this I would have given up on my pda years ago, and look at the fun I would have missed out on.
The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
If you are using POP3, the emails you downloaded to your device should stay there regardless of removal on the POP3 server. The only reason that would explain this behavior is that you are using IMAP and not POP3.
I'm using pop3 and the mails disappear.
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The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
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That's not how POP3 works. You are describing IMAP server behaviour.
nurps said:
The X1 always deletes the mails saved on the device if they arent stored on the server anymore after checking for new mails. Is there a way to keep mails that are no longer on the pop3 server?
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in options you have to select "don't delete mail from server" or "keep mail on server" I don't remember exactly but there in an option to do it, look around in advanced account settings
Well doenst really matter that its not supposed to work this way.
How do i fix it? Obvioulsy a bug, is it working with your phone?
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in options you have to select "don't delete mail from server" or "keep mail on server" I don't remember exactly but there in an option to do it, look around in advanced account settings
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Yes i have that option selected...the X1 is not deleting it from the server...its deleting it from the X1, after the mail is deleted from the server by my PC, on the next "send / reveicve" operation.
so check "don't delete message if deleted form server"... it's in advanced options too
Where would that option be? On the same page as the "dont delete from server option"? If yes i dont have that. (german version of windows mobile and Xperia) Maybe there is a direct registry setting if i cant get it through the options?
The problem you're having is most likely to do with retention. Eg "delete messages after 7 days". Use POP3 but also check your retention settings.
And where would i find this setting? I only find the option for downloaing Mails from today, 3 - 30 days old or all. But this hast nohting to do with deleting them once theyre gone on the pop3 server.
And thoose messeages dont vanish on their own...they get deleted after i check for new mails (its set up for manually doing that) and the experia notes that the mails is not on the pop3 server anymore.
So a "don't delete message if deleted form server" would be the right thing..just that i dont have that in my settings.
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Yes i have that option selected...the X1 is not deleting it from the server...its deleting it from the X1, after the mail is deleted from the server by my PC, on the next "send / reveicve" operation.
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If the email is deleted/retrieved from the server by YOUR PC, the email is gone by the time you check for new email on your PHONE.
What you need to do is select the option to "KEEP MAIL ON SERVER" in your PC email program.
Either way, I don't think it's a good practice to POP your email from 2 different places (PC and phone in your case).
Of course its gone, but i dont download the mail AFTER its deleted by the PC...its allready on the X1 and it deletes it AFTERWARDS.
In fact my PC is set up to leave Mails in POP3 for 3 days..then they get deleted...and the X1 is set to dont delete any mails at all. But it does delete allready downloaded mails as soons as it finds out theyre not on the pop3 server anymore.
So back to the solution of this problem please?
The only way I found to keep messages on the phone is to delete them from inbox to the deleted items folder, they stay there till you delete them properly.
Im on btinternet and I dont like the idea of messages staying on the server so havnt enabled it.
What is the point of keeping messages on the server, can they be downloaded again?
I cant find an advanced explanation of how the phone interacts with the mail services so I just keep mail I need in the deleted folder in the phone, I even created a new folder in the phone called store to put emails in for keeps but they dissapeared from there as well !!
If you have important information in a mail, copy and paste the text to word or notepad just to be safe.
According to guap there should be a "don't delete message if deleted from server"-option but i cant find it. I cant believe that windows mobile mail software would be more stupid that a simple java email client i used the last to years before the experia.
sorry for delay
go in your inbox -> menu ->tools -> options -> message -> warn when delete message from list
this way you can say "no" and keep your message. Quite annoyng but it worked for me on my touch. Now I don't care about it
Anyway, if you are interested in a serious client I suggest to swap to something better then pocket outlook
I have this checked...but always clicking yes on every mail check to keep my mails from getting deleted would be to annyoing even if it would work.
So what serious alternatives are there? And are they fully integrated into the OS?
nurps, have you doubled checked the settings to ensure you aren't using IMAP. The wizard will try to use IMAP by default, which by the sounds of things is exactly whats going on.
Its pop3. 100% sure.
I have set up the same account with pop3 and imap, the phone still behaves the same, deleting messages that have been downloaded to and deleted from pc.
I think this is stupid behavior. There should be an option to keep some email on the phone and not on the pc.
Edit; Put it this way I have 2 pcs with outlook express on, I can check mail with each one and they download mail individually but they dont clear the other pc of mail do they ! (mmm.. ? maybe thats wrong eh ..).
I like to choose what to delete from a particular machine and what to keep on a machine.
I collect my email from a POP3 server which works fine to a point.
However unlike the PC version of Outlook which collects the mail and retains it until it is deleted from the Inbox my PDA version is behaving as though it were connected to an IMAP server and removes the mail from the Inbox as soon as it is removed from the POP3 server.
I don't recall this happening when I first got the phone but can't be sure. Can anyone else confirm what happens with their POP3 mail ?
Ideally, I would like the messages I have downloaded to stay on the phone until I delete them manually which is what I thought used to happen.
Thanks
You can indeed set an option to do this. Can't remember exactly where but it's in the account settings somewhere. I'm using imap now so can check.
Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.
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Under the tool/options tab, tick the box that says "Leave a copy of message on server"... I had the same problem until I discovered this. Hope that helps.
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Many thanks for the replies.
The problem is actually the other way round. I can delete a message on the phone without it removing the message from the POP3 Server. But if I delete the message from the POP3 server it is removed from the phone as soon as I do a "Send and Receive". In other words the POP3 server seems to be behaving as though it were an IMAP server.
Can anyone confirm whether this happens with their POP3 server or is just mine? As I said I don't think it used to do that.
Thanks in advance.
On my phone I can't find the "leave a copy of message on server" tick box. And as soon as I download the message, read it, and press send/receive once more, the message is deleted both from the phone and from the server!! This renders the phone utterly useless for emails, since I want to download all messages to my PC whenever I get home. I don't need the messages I delete on the phone to remain on the server, but once I get home and receive the messages in Outlook, they disappear on the server and thus when I send/receive on the phone they're all gone from the phone inbox which is fine.
This worked fine on my original stock rom on the TouchHD, but since I flashed to a 6.5.5 ROM it's all messed up. I've tried 3 different 6.5.5 ROMs.
Any idea how to fix this?
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