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WiFiFoFum v2.0

New version just released for those interested... download at www.aspecto-software(dot)com

as before when this link was posted , it dont work. a working link would be apreciated as i love ver .4

luminousplumz said:
as before when this link was posted , it dont work. a working link would be apreciated as i love ver .4
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http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=1&lid=5

quick response.. cheers
but i still cant get there ,i think the proxy is pisin me about cheer though

quick response.. cheers
but i still cant get there ,i think the proxy is pisin me about cheer though

Hmm, it complains that it requires a newer version of the .NET framework to work on my Exec.
[edit]Aha, we need this one to give use the 2.0 framework http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=1&lid=4 [/edit]

just dling now from microsoft

works a treat! definately a must for those working in connectivity, networking etc and also those into warchalking (with a gps)

Yup, great bit of software. Can anyone recommend an indoor GPS device for use with WiFiFoFum when War-walking?
Cheers.

Massive install
Bloody hell! :shock:
The CAB file for WiFiFoFum is just a few hundred KB, but the installer for the .NET Compact Framework is 5MB! :shock: :shock:
You've got to *really* want this software to suffer that kinda hit to your storage, IMHO.
Is there any other free warwalking software that works well for WM5? I can store locations in TomTom without WiFiFoFum's radar display...
Thanks in advance

This version was great. Thanks

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SiliconS said:
Bloody hell! :shock:
The CAB file for WiFiFoFum is just a few hundred KB, but the installer for the .NET Compact Framework is 5MB! :shock: :shock:
You've got to *really* want this software to suffer that kinda hit to your storage, IMHO.
Is there any other free warwalking software that works well for WM5? I can store locations in TomTom without WiFiFoFum's radar display...
Thanks in advance
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Hi SiliconS,
I stored NetFramework and WiFiFoFum in my SD Card. It runs great, a little slow to start up but saves you the internal memory.
Plus from what I read, most new free warwalking software needs NetFramework 2. So there is no escaping it. Sorry.
If you want to try HitchHiker: http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/ feel free, but the last time I tried it on my EXEC, it did not work.

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Plus from what I read, most new free warwalking software needs NetFramework 2. So there is no escaping it. Sorry.
If you want to try HitchHiker: http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/ feel free, but the last time I tried it on my EXEC, it did not work.
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Thanks for the reply, Christian.
Maybe I'll try WiFiFoFum if it installs OK to the SD card. I was just shocked at how much MS bloat was necessary to get it working. Even installing the .NET 'Compact' Framework via my PC required a 24MB download and a 59MB installed size. Seems crazy to me, but I guess it's necessary for something.
Just a pity that WiFiFoFum requires the complete .NET framework and can't just cherry-pick certain libraries. I'm not a coder so I don't understand the reasons, but I'm sure the developers don't choose this situation happily.

but where is the advantage compared to the version before, that makes it worth installing the huge framework-stuff...?
the 0.3.3-version works quiet good on my mda pro

svonk said:
but where is the advantage compared to the version before, that makes it worth installing the huge framework-stuff...?
the 0.3.3-version works quiet good on my mda pro
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So, you mean to say that the previous version worked well with the UNIVERSAL, so we don't need to install NetFramework 2? Does the old version of WiFiFoFum have Windows Mobile 5 support?

cktlcmd said:
So, you mean to say that the previous version worked well with the UNIVERSAL, so we don't need to install NetFramework 2? Does the old version of WiFiFoFum have Windows Mobile 5 support?
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Previous version works on Universal, but you can't see all the screen in landscape mode. Since I use it once-in-a-blue-moon, I'm not worried by switching to portrait mode. But the loss of 5MB of main storage makes the latest version with .NET v.2 a non-starter!

SafeMode: Which programs offer it & are WM5 compatible?

I require my VARIO to have the option to boot in SafeMode. So far I've done this with Spb Pocket Plus - but since it is such a memory hog I want to get rid of it.
So far I only found two tools that offer SafeMode:
Spb Pocket Plus ( which I want to get rid of )
mCubeSafeMode or SafeMode 1.02 ( not WM5 compatible, installed fine but did not work for me )
So what other choices do I have? What other ( hopefully tiny tool ) will let me enter safemode at boot time?
Help is appreciated. Best regards.

Slightly off topic, but do all of these programs provide the same form of "safe mode"? And if so, what does that consist of? Safe Mode is not an OS feature, so I'm curious what cross over there is.
V

Sometimes programs are unable to be un-installed because some parts are loaded, or maybe a newly installed program makes trouble.
So you simply enter SafeMode and are then able to un-install these "troublemakers". Since I try out alot of stuff I don't want to miss this great feature.

I'm not sure, but what I've noticed from Spb's safemode, it disables added today screen items and startup processes. There may be more that it does too.

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I'm not sure, but what I've noticed from Spb's safemode, it disables added today screen items and startup processes. There may be more that it does too.
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Yep, thats what it does. So any chances that another program will do this?

There's a buzzdev thread about this. Someone posted a file in the last post. I didn't try it out because I have that feature with pocket plus, but you may want to try it.
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=15076&catid=26

If you use memmaid and look at services these 'programs' are moved to the top of the service order list, (therefore they are the first things the OS runs)... they basically have a small gui that says "you want to run safe mode" and if you say yes... they stop all the other services from starting, stop STARTUP items from running, and don't let any of the dlls load for today plugins.
The problem with mCubeSafeMode on WM5 is that services have to be certified signed to run in WM5, so even though it installs, its not allowed to run at boot time. I would have thought though that the un-certified builds on buzz/xda-dev would get around that?
I have a Jam now, no WM5 for me

Yep mCubeSafeMode would be great if it would only work with WM5 - but so far only Pocket Plus is able to do a SafeBoot on WM5 that I am aware of. I hoped I only missed another tool, but sad to say it seems to the only working version for WM5

SPB Pocket Plus
pocket plus has the option of booting in safe mode also

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pocket plus has the option of booting in safe mode also
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I know! Thats what I said in my first posting - but I want to get RID OF POCKET PLUS - that is the whole reason for this thread!

DreamBoxer: Are you running a certification-free WM5 ROM though? I actually talked to the mCubeSafe author about this, and the belief is services might actually need a Microsoft certificate, but he wasn't sure.... if it doesn't work with a cert-free ROM then I guess he was correct...
I had the same problem when I had a WM5 device I despirately wanted to NOT run SPB (too much bloat) but ultimately its the only one that had it...
You could install SPB and hunt around with memmaid and the registry to try and figure out how to just set the services only and remove everything else. You would have to install the service program, (maybe using memmaid) and move it up the service list to be first... in theory it should be do-able...

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gwassef said:
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I know! Thats what I said in my first posting - but I want to get RID OF POCKET PLUS - that is the whole reason for this thread!
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sorry i did not read the whole statments.

Memory Leakage...Spb mobile shell causes this...

After installing MUN_RUS and LVSW roms....
The leakage is even worse them WM05 roms.
i start the day with 23 MB, and after 3 hours of work (push mail and some calls) it narrows down to 13-16 MB....
Anyone else experiencing this?
Nadav

No. I don't experience this. I have my phone on 24/7 and this doesn't happen even after long time of no resets.

Remember these are BETA roms

Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.

ZakMcRofl said:
Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Yes i understand,
but WM06 is supposed to improve this issue isn't it?
it is even worse then WM05.
Nadavi

That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.

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That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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Thats the issue here,
That Pocket pc software doesnt use that much, and doesnt stay resident in memory!
if so, upon closing of the software it should clear out the used memory, i was convinced that in WM06 that think is executed better then WM05.
well it isnt
anyway, about free memory, the device is being up for 13 hours now,
and 11MB free! i can't even run Navigation software.
i've installed
SPB pocket plus
SPB diary
spb mobile shell
spb phone suite
Eyron hebrew support.
Ezdial.
None of thoose are not standart software programs.
What is wrong in WM06?
Nadavi

Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...

stepw said:
Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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I'm using SPB pocket plus to Really close each program being used.
so no software is left open.
but still, with push mail and normal daily usage i got no memory left at the end of the day.
Nadavi

NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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ok, they are great softwares! please give me your usage....
What is you rate of memory leakage?
you begin the day with:
and end it with:
which Software installed
Thanks in advance.
Nadavi.

SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS

lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??

I'm using SPB Phone Suite and SPB Pocket Plus :\
Almost every software that I know, is for WM5, not for WM6

KamaL said:
What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
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Try iLauncher, but I think that it is for WM5 too Don't know any launcher for WM6

Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?

I use SPB Mobile shell, SPB Diary and SPB weather...
I had no memory problems with these three when testing either lvsw or mUn ROM.

KamaL said:
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
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I use iLauncher, for me it works well without being too "heavy".

lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

alchemax said:
Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
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lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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applications

Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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on my side I am happy with the test with Pocket Informant, pocket slides.
Bad expertise with pocket hack master. Times bad expertise with the print software coming with the device, I think is due the wifi is a little special on athena.
Resco explorer last version creates problems -I think is due too much options on network- managing files in other network computers.
Expensepro runs fine, except the problem with the screen if you rotate it.
About hw, I own a jabra bt8010 and no caller id support, I think is a problem of the bluetooth stack that jetware doesn't solve.

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work

functional applications...
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Edit #1: Just installed 'HIMILAYA WM2k5 Screen Rotate Fix v1.1' which so far works as expected.
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.

wu5262 said:
I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work
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maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...

beginner said:
maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...
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you must disable internal auto scale.....

wu5262 said:
you must disable internal auto scale.....
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pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?

beginner said:
pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?
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no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple

wu5262 said:
no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple
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mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.

beginner said:
mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.
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i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.

wu5262 said:
i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.
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ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.

beginner said:
ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.
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no worry, good luck with your CPU scaling, report back the result pls

ltxda said:
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.
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thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?

Smartstradamus said:
thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?
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Don't think so. Let me know if you're interested in knowing the version of any app in particular.

Wifi troubles
I don't know if this is your case but since I replaced the jasjar with HTC I have at home wifi network access problems some times. It navigates by internet without issues but when I try to access to other pc disks shared times it sees and times not.
Some infraestructure -pc, access points, ..., no changes-
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.

beginner said:
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.
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I'm using Resco Explorer 2005 and having no problems using WLAN shared drive etc (other than it not remembering the password for my NAS but it always did that.)

Phoenix Studio 1.1 works, but you need to make sure you're in portrait mode and exit it before attaching the keyboard, otherwise touchscreen input goes a bit wrong and you'll have to exit the application by starting another one and going to the "Running Programs" panel.
Sounds good, too, with the speakers in the Ameo!
Pocket Commodore Plus4 works quite nicely on it for BASIC, but the emulation drops to cripplingly slow speeds when any input is used - shameful for what should be one of the fastest devices on the market.

MWg Zinc II Tweaker (also for TyTn II)

The attached program was written only for experimental purposes. I just wanted to know how hard it would be to read / write to the devices REGISTRY without using 3rd-party dll's or runtimes.
Allthough it is designed to work on the ZINC II, it partly should work as well on the TyTn II with WM6.1 (and similar devices).
I have tested the program only on my Zinc II with latest ROM version 2EUU.1033.Zinc II VER 010 WWE 230 0825 and in a WM6.1 emulator.
Please don't expect much! As I said: it was only experimental and therefore it has only 4 options as you can see on the screenshot. Nether the less, it might be useful to 'not-so-registry-editing'-skilled Zinc II owners. In addition, if someone is interested: the options can easily be extended - I gladly will publish the source as long as the application remains freeware and upgraded versions will be posted here.
Simply download, extract and then copy the executable to your device - no installation required, just run it directly!
As always: Use at your own risk!

Great tweaker! Tried this out for quite some time. No problem at all. I'm would certainly wish that this tweaker will be developed further. Great job!

Looks great and usefull man,.
maybe you could add some more option so just like Schaps advanced config?

How is this phone? I saw it somewhere unlocked for like $250-300 and was thinking about buying it.

FatBoyExtraordinaire said:
How is this phone? I saw it somewhere unlocked for like $250-300 and was thinking about buying it.
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This phone is very stable when you upgrade it to the latest ROM. The only problem I have is the RAM. It comes with only 64MB of RAM and after starting up, only a slightly more than 30MB of RAM is available for use. I uses Opera Mobile 9.5 a lot and once I open Opera, I can only open MSN. Anything more than Opera and MSN running, all opened application will close by itself to reclaim memory.

Thanks for the information. I have a wing so 30mb of RAM at start is amazing! lol

FatBoyExtraordinaire said:
Thanks for the information. I have a wing so 30mb of RAM at start is amazing! lol
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Oh... Why amazing? How much of RAM do you have?

After a soft reset and UltimateLaunch and WeatherPanel load up, I'll be lucky to be left with 13mb.

FatBoyExtraordinaire said:
After a soft reset and UltimateLaunch and WeatherPanel load up, I'll be lucky to be left with 13mb.
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Oh... So I suppose your wing is running on slow speed?

You can say that! lol