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I have an i-Mate (v1.52.00WWE) and two (2) BlueTooth headset devices:
Parrot CK v3.11 - Car Kit
M3000 by Plantronics - Ear Piece
Both are bonded, but I guess I can only ever set one as my default at any time (obviously you can't have the call ringing in two places at once - but that would solve the problem!).
Is there a way of switching between them simply?, or having them 'auto select' the correct default profile?, or having them both active at once? I currently have to rediscover them to switch.
Would this be made easier if the i-Mate had both Headset and Handsfree (?) profiles? Is this available?
Hope its not such a silly question :lol:
Thanks in advance,
Ian
I have BT carkit, and BT handsfree,
and I have the same problem.
With my Nokia 6600, it works great,
there's no "default profile",
both works.
Even more confused now
Thanks for the reply - I'm even more confused.
What I ment to say that with the 6600 it works great, :lol:
unlink the i-mate pocket pc. :roll:
I have just purchased the xdaII and found this problem too...
Have you found out any more info on this?
The only thing i can do at the moment is rename the bluetooth device and it then prompts me to set as default...
Ta
Christian
Thanks for the tip
No I have not found out more.
I tried the widcomm drivers, but found headset was all screwed up.
Thanks for the tip on rename. I have been deleting and recreating.
Now we only need a application on the Today that can rename the two BT devices and back.
Maybey a reg.key-file we can 'click' ??
One more of the shortcommings of XDAII in anything related to the BT sofware.
I read about a new ROM version comming out soon, that is supposed to fix the those BT problems, Has anyone more info on that?
:?:
IanF said:
I have an i-Mate (v1.52.00WWE) and two (2) BlueTooth headset devices:
Parrot CK v3.11 - Car Kit
M3000 by Plantronics - Ear Piece
Both are bonded, but I guess I can only ever set one as my default at any time (obviously you can't have the call ringing in two places at once - but that would solve the problem!).
Is there a way of switching between them simply?, or having them 'auto select' the correct default profile?, or having them both active at once? I currently have to rediscover them to switch.
Would this be made easier if the i-Mate had both Headset and Handsfree (?) profiles? Is this available?
Hope its not such a silly question :lol:
Thanks in advance,
Ian
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I just rx'd my Plantronics M3000 headset. It bonds to my XDA2 but I cannot for the life of me, answer or make a call with the headset.
1. When searching for a Bluetooth device, it finds the M3000 by Plantronics
2. I highlight it & tap next
3. I enter the bond code
4. I give it a name & tap finish.
Then it asks me, "This Bluetooth device supports headset profile, would you like to set it as your bluetooth headset?"
I answered Yes but I can't do the calling. Should this be answered No?
I originate a call on the XDA2, when it connects, I press and release the headset TALK button, hear a tone in the earpiece but the call never switches to the headset.
I have the green 3 sec blinking green light so unit is on. XDA2 has the blue indicator blinking.
Any feedback would be helpful since you do have the Plantronics,
Regards
Craig
Hi cshields1!
I don't have a Plantronics, but two SE HBH 30 and HBH 35 that work "somehow" with my XDAII.
First I would reccomend you to upgrade your ROM, since the Bluetooth radio stack of version 1.06.01 seem to have improved a bit over the previous ones (just in case you haven't yet)
Second, no matter what you do, actually you would NOT be able to initiate a call from your headset, you just can answer an incoming call and end a call, that is with the poor BT support in the XDAII.
Third, I'm not sure what you do, but please check:
- once your headset is bonded, turn your BT setting back to ON (BT icon on the bottom right of the Today screen)
- be sure your phone is NOT in flight mode
- Check that your "BT headset mode" in Today Screen is enabled
Tell me if this works.
:wink:
Has anyone noticed the bluetooth headset icon is no longer there when using the phone after upgrading to the latest O2 rom. My JasJar used to show the a headset icon at top of the arrow when ever I switched to phone screen (providing I had the paired headset on).
Also gone from the update is the notification beep from the headset when the phone has no signal.
These things were great and I am not sure how to get them back.
Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Hi,
I have a Vodafone P3600 which I had unlocked and flashed to test both HTC WM5 and Faman WM6 3.3 and 3.4. I have a problem using it with my Parrot CK3100, and it's the following: devices pair perfectly, but when I leave my car and then return, most of times P3600 does not connect with handsfree. Sometimes, it does connect, but after a long time. This occurs with any OS version I have tested.
A problem with CK3100 is discarded because I have flashed it with latest software version, and it was tested with a HP RW6815.
I tried disabling power saving, setting bluetooth as discoverable, installing Jetware, but nothing made it work as it should.
I'm near to sell my P3600 and buy a new HTC Touch only to solve this problem, because I need much a handsfree working in my car.
Can any of you give a hint of what the problem could be?
Thanks.
I forgot to say that if I power on my HTC, it always connect to the Parrot. But when it's in standby sometimes connects and others no.
I have an SonyEricsson HBH-DS200 and this works unfortunately with the P3600 also in a from you described way. I tryed AWE and PDAVIET and also AX3L ROMs.
Other points and problems with BT HandsFree are:
1.) A litle icon to show that the BT HansFree is connected will be showed in the status only after the first paaring. After that, nothing shows you, that the BT HansFree is connected (and therefor can be used) or not.
2.) After a phone call the BT HandsFree will be disconnected.That meanns, that I can not hear the phone ring in the earpice. I only hear it from the P3600. I have 2 choises after that:
a.) If I push te Answer button on the P3600, the voice is on the P3600.
b.) If I push the Answer button on the BT HansFree then the voice is on the BT HansFree (but it will be disconnected after the call).
3.) The volume can not be changed if I use the BT HandsFree. That means, the volume slide bar can be moved/changed, but this has no effect to the volume in the BT HansFree.
In my opinion if the paaring is done and the BT HandsFree is switched on it should be always:
- connected
- an icon in the status line appear
- the voice in the BT HandsFree - independent if the answer button is pushed on the phone or on the BT HandsFree
For me is the BT HandsFree very imortant, and I am a litle bit disappointed, that a device for 500 Eur works that buggy with a technology that is almost 10 year old.
Hi there,
Finally I assume I found out why some people have problems with their unit using BT and others not.
Those, who use BT headsets only (not stereo) and don't use the AD2P and AVRCP Profile don't have any problems. (I can confirm this - tested it with HBH-660 and Motorola without any troubles!)
And those people who have a stereo headset like the HBH-DS980 (which I own personally) and/or do own a car radio that can receive AD2P signals to transfer Stereo sound, face with the BT disconnections while listening to music and/or during a call or just right after...
So I think SE should solve this issue quickly as it seems to be a problem in WMP 6.1 in accordance to X1 hardware with AD2P / AVRCP profile devices.
So I start a poll for anyone who could confirm this or not !
BTW: I am using the Generic AT ROM but this BUG is affected through all other ROMs too, so that shouldn't matter -
Thanks,
Freako
My kenwood headunit uses avrcp and a2dp and works fine.
There was a discussion on this issue already and it does exist w/ my AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) as well w/ all the A2DP headsets I tried (SE DS220/205/980, JVC BT-1, ClipD R Radio, Jabra (forget what model)) so far
I believed the bluetooth issue that R2A fixed is another one where BT will turn itself off if not use for a while.
The 'turn off' issue is still there with mine! I had it only after 2,3 days but then continuously turn off by itself! Now, still happening! Generic_UK R2A
Generic Swedish R2A.
No problem for Bluetooth! But when I softreset x1 via spb mobile shell panell it crashes on boot.
jackleung said:
There was a discussion on this issue already and it does exist w/ my AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) as well w/ all the A2DP headsets I tried (SE DS220/205/980, JVC BT-1, ClipD R Radio, Jabra (forget what model)) so far
I believed the bluetooth issue that R2A fixed is another one where BT will turn itself off if not use for a while.
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Yes absolutely Jackleung, you're right, the new firmware should have fixed the automatic turn off of BT only, but I belive what michaelthemage said, that it still exists after his UK firmware update so do I - today the BT icon dissapeared suddenly - so it was turned off automatically ... very curious...
Anyway, Jackleung, you say that this problem was present in earlier WM6 machines like the Kaiser? As far as I know I did not try a stereo BT headset on my previous Tytn II but you say it seems to be a bug in WM6.1 in general, right ?
Very interesting that trinode doesn't have these problems with it's Kenwood headset - maybe I give it a try if it isn't too expensive -
On the other way Persian Boy links it with the SPB Shell - I do have the standard SBP Panel that you can download from web. Maybe I should uninstall it and try again - maybe the SPB panel makes these troubles? Personally I can't imagine, but will try anyway -
So far,
Freako
trinode said:
My kenwood headunit uses avrcp and a2dp and works fine.
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Can you please tell me the exact brand of this headunit by kenwood?
So you did try transferring music to the kennwood radio and there were no problems like sudden disconnections or so?
Thanks,
Freako
Freako said:
Yes absolutely Jackleung, you're right, the new firmware should have fixed the automatic turn off of BT only, but I belive what michaelthemage said, that it still exists after his UK firmware update so do I - today the BT icon dissapeared suddenly - so it was turned off automatically ... very curious...
Anyway, Jackleung, you say that this problem was present in earlier WM6 machines like the Kaiser? As far as I know I did not try a stereo BT headset on my previous Tytn II but you say it seems to be a bug in WM6.1 in general, right ?
Very interesting that trinode doesn't have these problems with it's Kenwood headset - maybe I give it a try if it isn't too expensive -
On the other way Persian Boy links it with the SPB Shell - I do have the standard SBP Panel that you can download from web. Maybe I should uninstall it and try again - maybe the SPB panel makes these troubles? Personally I can't imagine, but will try anyway -
So far,
Freako
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The problem I am talking about is A2DP/Headset disconnected after phone call, and I have to re-connect it after that. I don't thinks it's WM6 or SPB panel issue since only HTC devices (X1, Kaiser w/ no SPB install) have this issue. My other device Asus P525 (WM6/6.1 w/ Widcomm bt stack) or Eten M600 (WM6 w/ MS BT stack) do not have this issue.
Is anyone with the Bluetooth problem running MS Voice Command? I'm still on R1A. I had no trouble at all using my Motorola T505 A2DP kit, but when I installed MSVC, the stupid thing would drop out as soon as I picked up a call. Uninstalling MSVC seems to have done the trick.
bedlam_au said:
Is anyone with the Bluetooth problem running MS Voice Command? I'm still on R1A. I had no trouble at all using my Motorola T505 A2DP kit, but when I installed MSVC, the stupid thing would drop out as soon as I picked up a call. Uninstalling MSVC seems to have done the trick.
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Hi, yes I have Voice Command 1.6 on my device. It's working pretty well, but I know, what you're talking about -
Please try it with a usual BT headset (without the AD2P / AVRCP profiles!) if you have this possibility, - you'll see that it will work without any hassle.
I made this experience after I tried the HBH-660 and a Motorola headset.
Anyway - the new firmware R2A is recommended, even if the BT issue isn't solved.
But interesting to know that it seems to be a bug in HTC machines... so it will exist in further firmware updates... probably... I personally don't hope so....
No problems with the Sony HBH-IS800's and the bluetooth turning off randomly.
I have a problem with the WIFI randomly turning itself on during phone calls but no problems with anything turning off.
I have HBH-DS980 and I don't have any problems with disconnecting it on my X1 - not with R2A and not with R1A UK roms, also tested few modifided roms and there woudn't any problems too. I am also using SE MBW-150 watch and it also don't disconnect's with X1 (tested with R1A and R2A). I have BT turned on in my X1 all the time (previously in R1A rom and now in R2A) and after I turn on my HBH-DS980 headsets it will connect with them automaticly. Only sometimes I have to switch off and switch on againg BT to get connected with headsets but I think its headsets problem not the phone. But I never had a problem with suddenly disconnecting (not even once).
ell82 said:
I have HBH-DS980 and I don't have any problems with disconnecting it on my X1 - not with R2A and not with R1A UK roms, also tested few modifided roms and there woudn't any problems too. I am also using SE MBW-150 watch and it also don't disconnect's with X1 (tested with R1A and R2A). I have BT turned on in my X1 all the time (previously in R1A rom and now in R2A) and after I turn on my HBH-DS980 headsets it will connect with them automaticly. Only sometimes I have to switch off and switch on againg BT to get connected with headsets but I think its headsets problem not the phone. But I never had a problem with suddenly disconnecting (not even once).
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Thank you very much ell82, but maybe I should describe more specifically - disconnections also happens after calls - for example, if you switch on your BT headset (in this case the DS-980), you see a symbol next to the BT symbol on the top of the phone, that indicates, that a BT headset is connected. Now, I figured out, that after calls this symbol dissapears and the BT headset dissconnects, so I have to push the button on the DS-980 again to get connected with the phone, you know? And when I get a call, the phone does not automatically transfer the call to the headset, I always have to push the button on it first, to be connected again...
And you also confirm that sometimes you have to switch the BT on and off again - this is absolutely the same with my phone.
You assume it is a problem with the specific headset DS-980 ? Maybe, but SE support told me that there is no firmware update or sth. similar for this type... what a pity -
Anyway I hope it is not a hardware bug of the phone - I haven't heard of any phone that was repaired or refurbished because of the Bluetooth bug.
Ok, so can we say that the HBH-DS980 will not work with X1 as it should do ?
This is very pity, because it is the top of thir line of headset products... and I liked it very much on my previous P1i and it worked perfectly on it...
Freako said:
Thank you very much ell82, but maybe I should describe more specifically - disconnections also happens after calls - for example, if you switch on your BT headset (in this case the DS-980), you see a symbol next to the BT symbol on the top of the phone, that indicates, that a BT headset is connected. Now, I figured out, that after calls this symbol dissapears and the BT headset dissconnects, so I have to push the button on the DS-980 again to get connected with the phone, you know? And when I get a call, the phone does not automatically transfer the call to the headset, I always have to push the button on it first, to be connected again...
And you also confirm that sometimes you have to switch the BT on and off again - this is absolutely the same with my phone.
You assume it is a problem with the specific headset DS-980 ? Maybe, but SE support told me that there is no firmware update or sth. similar for this type... what a pity -
Anyway I hope it is not a hardware bug of the phone - I haven't heard of any phone that was repaired or refurbished because of the Bluetooth bug.
Ok, so can we say that the HBH-DS980 will not work with X1 as it should do ?
This is very pity, because it is the top of thir line of headset products... and I liked it very much on my previous P1i and it worked perfectly on it...
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This is exactly the same issue I am talking about and it's NOT specific to DS-980 alone. I tried DS-980, DS-205, DS-220, JVC BT-1, Clip-D Radio, and one Jabra model. And they all have the same issue on my X1 and Kaiser. (but not on my Asus P525 and Eten M600). The issue not happening 100% of the time but at least 80% which is enough to be frustrated.
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This is exactly the same issue I am talking about and it's NOT specific to DS-980 alone. I tried DS-980, DS-205, DS-220, JVC BT-1, Clip-D Radio, and one Jabra model. And they all have the same issue on my X1 and Kaiser. (but not on my Asus P525 and Eten M600). The issue not happening 100% of the time but at least 80% which is enough to be frustrated.
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Yes, 80% of that time is ok, but the 20% lead to be very frustrated - ABSOLUTELY !!
In a time (2009) were bluetooth does exist several years and where all bugs should have been cleared over the years..., the truth shows that there still exist "minor/major?" bugs in current phones...
BT Headset problems
I can confirm that the problems with BT and HBH-DS970 are a fact - and it seems to drain the battery enormously. I have tested for a few days the PV 710 (Mono handsfree), no issue. Today with the 970 my battery was empty after 6 hours standby, and it was disconnected allthough the icon said "BT-Stereo-Headset connected! After switching it off, the icon remained. Strange, isn´t it?
I come from P1i and there was no such problem at all.
I experience the same problem. New NL firmware and a Volkswagen (Bury OEM) Bluetooth carkit. My Nokia 6500 and SE K850i work perfectly but terminating a call makes the BT connection disappear on a fairly regular base. If the other party terminates it usually stays connected
...very strange but anyway it seems that it is mainly affected with AD2P / AVRCP devices - I hope it is just a software/firmware bug that can be fixed easily and not caused by a hardware failure....
Sorry guys but again I have to say it doesnt effect on my X1 and DS-980, never and I'm using it a lot. Have you guys tried it on fresh phone, without any additional software?
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Sorry guys but again I have to say it doesnt effect on my X1 and DS-980, never and I'm using it a lot. Have you guys tried it on fresh phone, without any additional software?
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The first thing after the purchase of the phone was to couple the device with the DS-980 headset and the bluetooth issue was really not expected and made me angry and at that time I didn't have any extra software on it...
When did you buy your headset ? I bought mine approx. 1 1/2 years ago...
Maybe the current items go better with the X1?? I don't know.
But we found out that this issue was also caused in other Windows Mobile devices like the Kaiser, TyTn etc.
The poll shows significantly that there are still some who have troubles with bluetooth, even after update-
AND now we can ask them if any of you have tried the headsets with clean and fresh install ? (Xperia X1 without any additional software, even without sbp panel, etc...! )
I am curious...
Freako