Using Calling Cards or sending touch tones while on call - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Does anyone have any idea how to send DTMF (touch tones) signals while on a call. For example if I call a calling card company, and then when it asks for the number, I can look it up in the address book and make the phone dial it while I'm on the call?
This is a pretty standard function on most normal phones, but I can't seem to figure out if this is available on WM5 Pocket PC.
Any ideas or alternate programs that do this would be appreciated.

Not sure if it's same same on all Wizard phone apps, but on my T-Mobile Vario, while you are in a call, the left menu-button says "Keypad" and it togles displaying the keypad so you can send tones.
Andre

I was trying to call a mate in oz using mine last night .
I also couldnt find the send DTMF menu, my old htc magician had it .
it is quite annoying keying in 20 or so digits each time .
Im using the Imate push email rom .
Push email is awesome

andrewilley said:
Not sure if it's same same on all Wizard phone apps, but on my T-Mobile Vario, while you are in a call, the left menu-button says "Keypad" and it togles displaying the keypad so you can send tones.
Andre
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Yes, you can send tones that way, but you can't send tones from your address book which is what I'm trying to do.

dial DTMF
This may be what you are looking for.
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2006/10/dialdtmf-freeware-pocketpc.html

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DMTF

is there a way you can send DMTF with the JAM like in most nokia phone if not all
They say that if you switch off sound when you press buttons, DTMF tones are sent correctly. There was such a reply in this forum. Sorry, I don't remember the author
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
bamse said:
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
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It was not good on mine - T-Mobile MDA Compact. In some cases the other side did not show reaction on incoming tones. With the sounds set to "off" it became fine.
do one of you guys know, how i can store these dtmf tones? for example i you've got a mailbox where you have to enter a code for access. the easiest way(you don't have to remebmer the code) is to store the phone number incl the dtmf tones in the phonebook. like nokia does it, e.g. +49323244322p1234
after the p is the access code.
do you know a way how to do this with the magician?
thx in advance
simple. create a contact with the dial string. assing a speed dial and you're good to go.
111-2222,,,,1233
each comma makes the phone wait a few seconds before inputting the 1233 string.
Hope that helps.
cool thx. its working.
It is the same as Nokia
You can also do with the magician as with any other phone. The Pause digit ("p") is a standard convention. If you use it in a number in a Nokia phone, the phone will wait for the other end of the call to "pick up", and then will send the remaining characters as DTMF.
Same on the Magician. You should have just tried.
The use of commas is also standard and works in all phones, but it just makes a 1-second pause, which is not very reliable for the first DTMF sequence after "pick-up". In fact, due to line coverage, 4 commas might work one time, but not the other time. "P" works all the time.
On my Magician phone book I actually have very long sequences of DTMF, to check various types of voicemails, or use calling cards. I always use "p" after the main number, after that the use of p or comma is the same, it's always 1 second.
the "p" doens't work with my mda compact.
the , is okay but p not.
i tired before, otherwise i wouldn't ask
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That's really strange!!!! Could it be that MDA's have got a different dialler (my Magician is i-mate)?

Call Filter

I had a Palm software phone (Treo 600) before my current MDA Compact and the Palm had two programs that i cannot seem to find for this PocketPC, can anyone suggest a program
1/ a Call filter, one that does not pass the calls onto the voicemail a filter that will pick up and drop. The Parm one when you had a blocked call it sounded to the caller that they had been cut off, i have been given SmartFilter but you just end up with lots of voice messages.
2/ Was a SMS response program once set if you recieved a text it would make no sound but would send a reply with a message you had set.
as said two usefull program that i cannot find for PocketPC, have i missed then if so can anyone please tell me the names.
Better still PM to me
thank you
1. Bad begining : No said Hello
2. What about SEARCH
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21443&highlight=
Any way , click on that link and you will see one of the programs that you can use, but as said, do a search and you will get a lot more answers.
Cheers mate.
User22 said:
1. Bad begining : No said Hello
2. What about SEARCH
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21443&highlight=
Any way , click on that link and you will see one of the programs that you can use, but as said, do a search and you will get a lot more answers.
Cheers mate.
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Sorry "Hello" i was tired .
thank you i did a search but got a page full and was too tired to go through everyone.
Next time i will search harder and there was no need to shout.
Hi again. I think that you must give a try to that program,because it is doing very well the job that you are specting.
Cheers.
User22 said:
Hi again. I think that you must give a try to that program,because it is doing very well the job that you are specting.
Cheers.
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I have tried that program and it looks very good but is restricted to only 10 numbers from your contact list. I will keep my eye on this program but as said so far it looks very good.
pr1uk said:
I had a Palm software phone (Treo 600) before my current MDA Compact and the Palm had two programs that i cannot seem to find for this PocketPC, can anyone suggest a program
1/ a Call filter, one that does not pass the calls onto the voicemail a filter that will pick up and drop. The Parm one when you had a blocked call it sounded to the caller that they had been cut off, i have been given SmartFilter but you just end up with lots of voice messages.
2/ Was a SMS response program once set if you recieved a text it would make no sound but would send a reply with a message you had set.
as said two usefull program that i cannot find for PocketPC, have i missed then if so can anyone please tell me the names.
Better still PM to me
thank you
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hi there fellow Bristolian !!!
try http://www.novomobile.com/smartfilter.php versions for both smartphone and pocket pc......... absolutely brilliant product.... i use it on holiday to allow only REALLY essential calls through and to divert all the others through to my office
give it a try
regards
boyo69 said:
pr1uk said:
I had a Palm software phone (Treo 600) before my current MDA Compact and the Palm had two programs that i cannot seem to find for this PocketPC, can anyone suggest a program
1/ a Call filter, one that does not pass the calls onto the voicemail a filter that will pick up and drop. The Parm one when you had a blocked call it sounded to the caller that they had been cut off, i have been given SmartFilter but you just end up with lots of voice messages.
2/ Was a SMS response program once set if you recieved a text it would make no sound but would send a reply with a message you had set.
as said two usefull program that i cannot find for PocketPC, have i missed then if so can anyone please tell me the names.
Better still PM to me
thank you
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hi there fellow Bristolian !!!
try http://www.novomobile.com/smartfilter.php versions for both smartphone and pocket pc......... absolutely brilliant product.... i use it on holiday to allow only REALLY essential calls through and to divert all the others through to my office
give it a try
regards
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I have a copy of Smartphone and yes it is good except if anyone calls you and they are blocked it goes straight to the voicemail. So i ended up with voicemails, i think a really good call filter should except the call (silently) and just hang up. Smartphone is good but could be better if it picked up and dropped the unwanted calls instead of pointing them to voicemail.
not quite true
it takes it's divert from the phone 'busy' setting.... I think the default is voicemail on busy, but in the phone settings, you can specify another number other than voicemail... I put in my office number....go to the phone application and then the 'call divertl settings
not sure what you mean by pickup and hangup....sounds a bit rude really to the poor caller!
I don't get what you want?
You want the phone to receive a call, and then just hang it up?
V
vijay555 said:
I don't get what you want?
You want the phone to receive a call, and then just hang it up?
V
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What i am after is simple, work ring me weekends and using Smart Filter i end up with a load of vorce mails i dont want that. Now Call Filter when you choise a number to ignore just hangs up No Call and No Voice Mails - Great. I will be glad when he has finished the program as its grippled to only 0 numbers from your phone book at the moment.

DTMF tone sending

I am sure you used to be able to do it on the universal but now it seems I cant !!! does anyone know how !!!
I doubt you can send them, but you can enable tones in the phone control panel (I think it's there, but somewhere near there).
That just makes the phone keypad beep lyrical.
V
my old nokias can do it and so can my GF's samsung D500 !! a very useful option when using 3rd party dialers, I dont understand why this phone cant do it !!!
I always use this feature to send over the calling card PIN number and the destination number so even though I make an international call using phone card I do not need to puch the PIN etc manually. Just record the number into the contacts and use some delays. It works.
lie_ui said:
I always use this feature to send over the calling card PIN number and the destination number so even though I make an international call using phone card I do not need to puch the PIN etc manually. Just record the number into the contacts and use some delays. It works.
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I know what you mean but that means I need to change all the international numbers stored in my phone, it would be easier if I could just call the number and then choose the number out of my contacts and send tones !!!
i have the same issue. i use an international caller to dial out to america and on my nokia i would just send the tones of the numbers i wanted to dial. now i have to write them down so i can punch them back into the xda. shame
Assuming I understand your problem correctly, it sounds like the problem is with your calling card provider and not your phone. The Universal, like any other phone, ought to send DTMF tones through in-band audio -- pretty standard stuff. I've tested this with my calling card provider and I'm able to put in my PIN code through DTMF without any problem.
I think that what these guys are describing is the ability, whilst on a call, to say "Send DTMF" and then choose a number from your contacts. This way, you can store your calling card number in one phonebook entry and all your other contacts as normal, then you choose the calling card to dial and then "send" the number for the other contact. However, you usually need to append a "#" with these services and the number needs the international prefix (so USA becomes "001" instead of "+1"). I generally just store two numbers against each name - one normal and one with integrated calling card.
I don't think anyone is saying that they can't manually key in the number mid-call.
That's exactly right, Melty.

DTMF not working on TYTN Vario II

In my Contacts in WM 2003 I used to be able to define an access number before I call my contact e.g.:
08707940000,,01xxxxxxxxx.
Where the first number is access number and the second is the contact's number.
However now, the phone only dials the access number (the first number) and after a short pause I can hear it dialling 3 to 4 DTMFs but it is not actually dialling them because the provider is not picking it up the DTMFs.
I have to dial the numbers manually and than its OK.
Can anyone reproduce this? Please help!
Same issue here... I have a contact like this:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,0561617XXXXXXX
This dials +3493532XXXX (my home number) where I have an asterisk box, then I hear the message "Please enter your password followed by the pound key" and the DTMFs for the password and # key are sent correctly (in the number the passwd is 1234), then I hear the tone where I can dial any number, I dial 056 (prefix to use FreeWorldDialout on my asterisk) and 1617XXX (USA Boston number)... I hear all the numbers, but I see my asterisk hanging up before the whole number has been sent.
Very weird... I will do some more tests to see if I can find any solution...
Ok, finally I got the solution... do not put more than 4 digits without a comma (pause)... i saved my contact like this and now it enters the password and dials correctly:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,056,1617,XXX,XXXX
Hope it helps you too! :shock:
I did what you did, the problem seam to be that the DTMF tones are not sent at all aldough I can hear them.
I'm getting this too very odd. Getting rather bored of holding the phone up to my speakers so I can play the right tone and empty my voicemail box!
hi.. got my vario II on friday, and i have the same problem. i used to be able to dial an international number on my UNIVERSAL by calling the local access number and insert a pause before dialing the international number for example: 02071246666,006596454343. however, this does not work on vario 2 and i am very upset about it!!
Hi,
you have checked this:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL: EnableDTMFSupport = 0
switch to
EnableDTMFSupport = 1
Hi,
Thanks for the help, but i tried that, but it was already set to "1".. i switched to "0", soft reset, switch back to "1", soft reset again, but still not working...
I am also having this problem, cannot empty voicemail at the moment.
I have the same problem on my Vario II. When I'm entering the number manually during the call I can hear the sound, but the other end does not respond to my input at all.
This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
Anyone had a solution for it so far?
Are there more people with a TyTn/Vario with this problem? If so, do respond because it might be a bug or something...
Motje said:
This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
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On my Vario II if I go to the phone app dial 150 and when connected then press keypad I can then navigate the customer service menus by pressing the on screen number keypad if that is what you mean?
Yes, that is exactly what's not working for me. I can press the keys during the call, and I hear the tone, but somehow the other end does not get them.
Interesting topic I just saw on MoDaCo: http://www.modaco.com/Problem-with-Phone-Dialer-on-Hermes-t247377.html
It turns out that it is not just the DTMF, but also the d-pad up key not going to the call history, and the 3G icon having changed to U.
This all happened after a hard reset.
Can anyone else who did a hard reset confirm if they have any of these problems?
Check that
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\AMRDTMFToneFile = "\windows\dtmf122.amr"
then try changing the value of
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\UseAMRDTMFTone
from 1 to 0 or 0 to 1
No idea what it means, but it is set up in some Preconfig setups
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
Motje said:
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
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That worked for me to.
Mine worked fine untill I installed the DeepOcean dialler skin and then it stopped working - removed it and it came back (DeepOcean lacked smartdial).
Installed the Eten dialler and smartdial, and have lost the tones again, think this phone skin is great, but it won't properly uninstall (need the original T-mobile phone skin/graphics) so am currently stuffed!
Have done all the usual soft reboots etc.
I'm confident if I re-instated the deafault t-mobile dialler it would come back, however, I don't want to do a hard reboot and reinsatlll all the add-on apps and data.
Any ideas how to get the DTMF tones working - I can 'hear' them, they are clearly not being sent, If I put it on speaker phone, then in clear conditions the mike picks it up and it works!!
Any ideas?
DTMF Doesn't work - FIXED IT!
Fixed it!!
Editing the registry and setting the value to 0, then soft reboot and dtmf tones are working.
Setting it to 0 wasn't the obvious choice, and previously I hadn't soft rebooted.
Found the following from dhushy in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700
Worked it out. For anyone with a similar problem, use the registry editor to locate the following key:
HKLM,"Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL","EnableDTMFSupport",0x0 0010001,1
Change the value from 1 to a 0 and Bob's yer Uncle (for non-British readers that means everything will be cushty - see Only Fools and Horses for a contextual translation)
Did this and I was able to manipulate my voicemail messages as normal.
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I am on T-Mobile UK.
A Big Thank you
This advice on changing the dtmf code from 1 to 0 was the thing ive been lokking for - for the last 4 months. A really big thank you

[REQ] Voicemail stand alone application

I wonder if there is an application that would pick up my phone after some rings, and plays a message and people can drop a message.
So I will have a voicemailbox with recorded messages which I can point and click at, save them, listen again, etc. Just recorded als .mp3 on internal storage. Maybe even callback options, sms-back options etc.
I really hate dialling that voicemailbox number, choosing 1 and 2 to listen messages. I have no overvieuw of messages etc.
The app looks fairly simple to me. Does it exist already?
You're searching for some kind of on-device visual voice mail
I would really like to see this at this moment my voicemail is nothing more than a question to mail me or sms me but most people do not like that
one question when your phone is off or you are out of range what would you like another app to take it over?
This is a nice idea...
See it more as a secretary app. instead of a voicemail app.
Where you're in your car and you don't / can't talk.
Perhaps something with different messages you can choose from (you need to make them yourself?)
Something like "Hello this is <insert name>, I'm driving at the moment, please leave a message after the beep" *beep* The person leaves a message that will be saved as mp3 file for example.
@WvanWaas
When out of range, your 'standard' voicemail will take over.
But when in meetings, or as said, driving, it would be nice that the persons message can be stored on my device.
The ultimate thing would be that this program can dial my voicemail, automaticcally send DTMF tones (time and pattern), and store eventually new voicemailmessages locally. The number of new voicemails on my network is available (since manila uses it too).
With Telfort home-phone, I get emails with .mp3s of voicemail messages (VOIP). Thats really good.
With vodafone UK I was using vodafone mail - voicemails automatically appeared as emails with WAV attachments.
Was very handy
There dont exist any programs?
the only app is isecretary. it doesnt work on diamond though
I use www.youmail.com and also wrote a simple client to parse through my emails and just list my voicemails in a UI.
Youmail also does speech to text transcription so you don't even have to play the sound file-- just read it.
It not for outside US I guess...
It looks promising...
It exists for Nokia phones
I have not found an application as such for the diamond but I know that it exists for Nokia. With the Nokia N95 there is a built in application that works as a voicemail. Of course only when there is coverage and the phone is working.
The application picks up the call after some time (configurable) and plays a greeting message that you have previously recorded and after the beep, the caller can record his message. The application saves that recording and whenever you are available you can playback that message.
Hope to find one for Diamond.
Yup, my T-Mobile voicemail charges are silly, plus I'd like to have more control and functionality from my voicemail. An included blacklist filter would be handy too.
I have a Touch Pro (Raphael).. Is there really nothing around at the moment that will work? That's kind of strange.
Just kick this one up once more ...
This type of app could cause some expensive long distance charges if you were outside of your local calling area though, no? I'm thinking your phone would need to be connected to the call in order to record an .mp3 voice message locally on the device, whereas carrier voicemail can be received regardless of where you are anywhere in the world without costing you as the user a fee to receive a message.
I see that Touch HD can record calls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808&page=4
A simple application which auto-answers, plays a file, records a message and nicely puts them in a list, so I have total controll of my voicemessages?
That would be well killer-app... I'd pay for it, simply because I need it.
i realy want this app too!!!!!
Sounds nice to me as well
+1 here....
Try This. Loaded on my Diamond but havn't tested it.
65coupei6 said:
Try This. Loaded on my Diamond but havn't tested it.
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thanks, i installed it, and recorded an message for people calling me, but cant get the program pick up my call... i allready said he must pick the call after 3 sec. and also after 0 seconds, he dont pick up any call... i added the number with wich i'm trying, at an group, and i see the missed call in isecretary also, but he dont pick up... any body know how this works? the site op the maker is down
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks
that's what every diamons-user needs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqnhm8yfTqM

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