is there a way you can send DMTF with the JAM like in most nokia phone if not all
They say that if you switch off sound when you press buttons, DTMF tones are sent correctly. There was such a reply in this forum. Sorry, I don't remember the author
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
bamse said:
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
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It was not good on mine - T-Mobile MDA Compact. In some cases the other side did not show reaction on incoming tones. With the sounds set to "off" it became fine.
do one of you guys know, how i can store these dtmf tones? for example i you've got a mailbox where you have to enter a code for access. the easiest way(you don't have to remebmer the code) is to store the phone number incl the dtmf tones in the phonebook. like nokia does it, e.g. +49323244322p1234
after the p is the access code.
do you know a way how to do this with the magician?
thx in advance
simple. create a contact with the dial string. assing a speed dial and you're good to go.
111-2222,,,,1233
each comma makes the phone wait a few seconds before inputting the 1233 string.
Hope that helps.
cool thx. its working.
It is the same as Nokia
You can also do with the magician as with any other phone. The Pause digit ("p") is a standard convention. If you use it in a number in a Nokia phone, the phone will wait for the other end of the call to "pick up", and then will send the remaining characters as DTMF.
Same on the Magician. You should have just tried.
The use of commas is also standard and works in all phones, but it just makes a 1-second pause, which is not very reliable for the first DTMF sequence after "pick-up". In fact, due to line coverage, 4 commas might work one time, but not the other time. "P" works all the time.
On my Magician phone book I actually have very long sequences of DTMF, to check various types of voicemails, or use calling cards. I always use "p" after the main number, after that the use of p or comma is the same, it's always 1 second.
the "p" doens't work with my mda compact.
the , is okay but p not.
i tired before, otherwise i wouldn't ask
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That's really strange!!!! Could it be that MDA's have got a different dialler (my Magician is i-mate)?
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Does anyone have any idea how to send DTMF (touch tones) signals while on a call. For example if I call a calling card company, and then when it asks for the number, I can look it up in the address book and make the phone dial it while I'm on the call?
This is a pretty standard function on most normal phones, but I can't seem to figure out if this is available on WM5 Pocket PC.
Any ideas or alternate programs that do this would be appreciated.
Not sure if it's same same on all Wizard phone apps, but on my T-Mobile Vario, while you are in a call, the left menu-button says "Keypad" and it togles displaying the keypad so you can send tones.
Andre
I was trying to call a mate in oz using mine last night .
I also couldnt find the send DTMF menu, my old htc magician had it .
it is quite annoying keying in 20 or so digits each time .
Im using the Imate push email rom .
Push email is awesome
andrewilley said:
Not sure if it's same same on all Wizard phone apps, but on my T-Mobile Vario, while you are in a call, the left menu-button says "Keypad" and it togles displaying the keypad so you can send tones.
Andre
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Yes, you can send tones that way, but you can't send tones from your address book which is what I'm trying to do.
dial DTMF
This may be what you are looking for.
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2006/10/dialdtmf-freeware-pocketpc.html
In my Contacts in WM 2003 I used to be able to define an access number before I call my contact e.g.:
08707940000,,01xxxxxxxxx.
Where the first number is access number and the second is the contact's number.
However now, the phone only dials the access number (the first number) and after a short pause I can hear it dialling 3 to 4 DTMFs but it is not actually dialling them because the provider is not picking it up the DTMFs.
I have to dial the numbers manually and than its OK.
Can anyone reproduce this? Please help!
Same issue here... I have a contact like this:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,0561617XXXXXXX
This dials +3493532XXXX (my home number) where I have an asterisk box, then I hear the message "Please enter your password followed by the pound key" and the DTMFs for the password and # key are sent correctly (in the number the passwd is 1234), then I hear the tone where I can dial any number, I dial 056 (prefix to use FreeWorldDialout on my asterisk) and 1617XXX (USA Boston number)... I hear all the numbers, but I see my asterisk hanging up before the whole number has been sent.
Very weird... I will do some more tests to see if I can find any solution...
Ok, finally I got the solution... do not put more than 4 digits without a comma (pause)... i saved my contact like this and now it enters the password and dials correctly:
+3493532XXXX,1234#,056,1617,XXX,XXXX
Hope it helps you too! :shock:
I did what you did, the problem seam to be that the DTMF tones are not sent at all aldough I can hear them.
I'm getting this too very odd. Getting rather bored of holding the phone up to my speakers so I can play the right tone and empty my voicemail box!
hi.. got my vario II on friday, and i have the same problem. i used to be able to dial an international number on my UNIVERSAL by calling the local access number and insert a pause before dialing the international number for example: 02071246666,006596454343. however, this does not work on vario 2 and i am very upset about it!!
Hi,
you have checked this:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL: EnableDTMFSupport = 0
switch to
EnableDTMFSupport = 1
Hi,
Thanks for the help, but i tried that, but it was already set to "1".. i switched to "0", soft reset, switch back to "1", soft reset again, but still not working...
I am also having this problem, cannot empty voicemail at the moment.
I have the same problem on my Vario II. When I'm entering the number manually during the call I can hear the sound, but the other end does not respond to my input at all.
This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
Anyone had a solution for it so far?
Are there more people with a TyTn/Vario with this problem? If so, do respond because it might be a bug or something...
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This is really annoying as I can't get into my voicemail or contact customer service
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On my Vario II if I go to the phone app dial 150 and when connected then press keypad I can then navigate the customer service menus by pressing the on screen number keypad if that is what you mean?
Yes, that is exactly what's not working for me. I can press the keys during the call, and I hear the tone, but somehow the other end does not get them.
Interesting topic I just saw on MoDaCo: http://www.modaco.com/Problem-with-Phone-Dialer-on-Hermes-t247377.html
It turns out that it is not just the DTMF, but also the d-pad up key not going to the call history, and the 3G icon having changed to U.
This all happened after a hard reset.
Can anyone else who did a hard reset confirm if they have any of these problems?
Check that
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\AMRDTMFToneFile = "\windows\dtmf122.amr"
then try changing the value of
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\3GVTEngine\UseAMRDTMFTone
from 1 to 0 or 0 to 1
No idea what it means, but it is set up in some Preconfig setups
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
Motje said:
Excellent, I solved my problems. What I did was re-install all the cab files from the extended ROM. This gave me back my T-Mobile dialer and also made the DTMF working again.
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That worked for me to.
Mine worked fine untill I installed the DeepOcean dialler skin and then it stopped working - removed it and it came back (DeepOcean lacked smartdial).
Installed the Eten dialler and smartdial, and have lost the tones again, think this phone skin is great, but it won't properly uninstall (need the original T-mobile phone skin/graphics) so am currently stuffed!
Have done all the usual soft reboots etc.
I'm confident if I re-instated the deafault t-mobile dialler it would come back, however, I don't want to do a hard reboot and reinsatlll all the add-on apps and data.
Any ideas how to get the DTMF tones working - I can 'hear' them, they are clearly not being sent, If I put it on speaker phone, then in clear conditions the mike picks it up and it works!!
Any ideas?
DTMF Doesn't work - FIXED IT!
Fixed it!!
Editing the registry and setting the value to 0, then soft reboot and dtmf tones are working.
Setting it to 0 wasn't the obvious choice, and previously I hadn't soft rebooted.
Found the following from dhushy in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700
Worked it out. For anyone with a similar problem, use the registry editor to locate the following key:
HKLM,"Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL","EnableDTMFSupport",0x0 0010001,1
Change the value from 1 to a 0 and Bob's yer Uncle (for non-British readers that means everything will be cushty - see Only Fools and Horses for a contextual translation)
Did this and I was able to manipulate my voicemail messages as normal.
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I am on T-Mobile UK.
A Big Thank you
This advice on changing the dtmf code from 1 to 0 was the thing ive been lokking for - for the last 4 months. A really big thank you
Hi, I've tried searching the forums, but i'm having no luck. I recently got the T-Mobile MDA (great phone, btw), and I was wondering if anyone can advise on how to enter numbers into your contacts, so that you can include a persons extension. This is a feature that I would like to know so that I can call friends and family at their work numbers, where I would have to call the company number, wait for the automated receptionist, and then dial the person's extension.
I use to be able to do this with a Samsung phone that I had for Verizon using a "p" pause feature, which would wait an additional 2 seconds per "p", followed by entering the persons extension. (ie, if you were to enter "(123) 456-789 ppppp 12345", the phone would dial (123) 456-789, wait 10 seconds (5p's = 5 x 2 seconds), then dial 12345.
if the above explanation was confusing, maybe you can check the info from samsumg's site at
http://erms.samsungusa.com/customer...D=557&PROD_SUB_ID=561&PROD_ID=613&AT_ID=24794
it gives an explanation of this "p" pause feature (not my previous phone, but still same feature).
overall, this would make my life easier when i use voice dialing, so that when i'm driving and want to call someone, i don't have to look down at my phone bad and try to touch the numbers (which are a bit inconvenient on the MDA), for the person's extension.
thanks for any advise you can offer.
Use a comma instead of "p"
i.e.
123 456-7899 ,,,,, 12345
thanks lotech, it worked. this will definitely save me from getting into a car accident.
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Hi there,
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Can anybody tell me how to send DTMF tone in Cingular 8525? I searched this forum and the internet infact, but not able find the answer.
I need it to be able to set up the phone number in the address book to do this:
dial the 877-xxx-xxxx number
manual wait
DTMF a 10 digit number followed by a #
manual wait
DTMF a 4 digit number followed by a #
manual wait
DTMF a 11 digit number followed by a #
This is for calling my parents in India and it's always been really convenient to just program the whole thing.
One way would be to enter a 'p' wherever you want a pause in the dialing. This produces a second or two pause between sending the numbers.
Thanks for the quick reply. I tried that and even tried adding w but it is not working.
Also my requirement is a manual pause meaning the automated message takes a while to finish, so I need to send the tones manually.
Hmmm. I dunno. I used to be able to do something like that on an OLLLLD Motorola and some home (non-cellular) phones by using several speed-dial locations, and calling up each one as it was needed. But I never tried it with my 8525 (and don't really need that usability now).
Maybe you can give that a shot and let us all know if it works????
Good luck!
Thank you for that suggestion. Since it is a lot of combinations I would prefer to use DTMF. I really don't know wherther you can send DTMF tones on 8525. Also I saw in the install notes of HTweakC 2.1 for Hermes that it would enable DTMF support. I guess I don't know how to use that feature. Can somebody please tell what I am missing?
DTMF
I had issues with this also.
I used the HTweakC 2.1 to turn on (then off / then back on again with soft resets each time.) (Don't forget to "save and exit" after changes.) the DTMF support.
Opened the phone app and went into options. Set DTMF to short.
Used the following format for the contact phone number.
(111) 111-1111w11111#w11111#
Everytime you get to a w, the phone will wait for you to press the send key.
I also was able to use the p to do a 2 second pause.
For some reason I had to redo the contact several times before it would work.
Good luck.
No one at T-Mobile has the answer and HTC tech support referred me here. I dial my office voice mail maybe 10-15 times a day. On my Sprint phone I was able to insert pauses in the dialing. It would dial the number, pause for the voice command, add a string of numbers, pause for the next voice command, and finally put in my password. So I could press 3, for example, and it would take me all the way through to my messages. So far I can not find a way to put in the pauses on the Wing. So I have to press 3 and then wait for the voice command, and then manually put in the next string of numbers, then wait again for the next voice command, and then put in the password. This is time consuming and impossible to do while driving. Anyone know if it can be done on the Wing? If so, how? Thanks, Tom
I have not tried it on the Wing... But try just putting a comma "," in the dialing string... Should work.... Does on all my other phones......
Commas
I tried this. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I don't think so. In my contacts I go to the phone number. Here is the string I use (with x's for most of the numbers): 1802xxxxxxx,,,#802xxxxxxx,,,xxxxxx
I have this as a speed dial and also as a T-Mobile Fav. Any way I try to dial it it only dials the 1802xxxxxxx and then stops.
There is no way to insert pauses
I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.
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I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.
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I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
P's don't work for me
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I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Tried it on the Wing but no luck. When I dial with the P's added, the dialing never gets past the first string of numbers. On the dialing screen there are no P's and nothing past the first string. This is true for comma's also. When I tried it with ***'s it did appear, these did appear on the dialing screen of the Wing when I dialed but the call clicked off without dialing with the message, "Call Ended." One thing I noticed is that Outlook takes anything after the first string of numbers and puts the rest under "Extension" and puts an x before it. But I'm having the problem even if I enter the number only on the Wing and not in Outlook.
My mistake -- p's work and also commas
malixsys said:
I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Yes! I see what I was doing wrong. A comma or a "p" both work fine. Thanks for the help.
One problem remains: I have this number as one of My Fav's, and if I dial it using My Fav, it doesn't do the pauses. I think I have to wait until July 1 and refresh the My Fav. -- I hope.
And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)
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And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)
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At least this: When did the speed dial (after inserting the pauses), at least a few times I did not wait long enough for the pause to kick in. On my Sprint phone I think it happened quicker with more pauses (I think), and I was used to have it happen quickly.
The Call Ended message that kept happening may possibly have been due to being out of a service area, but I tested at the time and other calls were going through, so I'm not sure what happened.
Finally, I haven't synced it back with my desktop yet. I hope the Outlook on the desktop doesn't screw things up.
One more thing if it is useful: T-Mobile has these My Fav's. If I dial using the speed dial or directly from the number itself, it is working. But if I dial directly from the My Fav's it does not insert the pause. I think the reason is that I uploaded the My Fav number to T-Mobile before I put in all the pauses, so T-Mobile must have it and be using it without the pauses. On the first of the month I intend to upload it again with the pauses and see if that will work. Hope so.
Thanks, Tom
we can also use a 'w' to insert a wait
along with the 'p' for pause, a 'w' can also be used to insert a wait. That would be useful when you are not sure how long to pause and want control of when to send the rest of the DTMF sequence. If you insert a 'w', you have to keep pressing the Green Call button and it will keep sending the DTMF sequence till the next 'w' in the number.
I use that very frequently to dial international phone numbers with different calling cards.
a w may work on the wing, most current android phones it seems like a ";" is whats required for the wait tone. also a comma is used for pause (3 seconds)but the easiest way i found to do it is by simply pressing the menu button while in the dialpad screen, it will pop up with options to add wait's or pause's