Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
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[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
ljinsane said:
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
I am looking for an app that lets me do stuff when certain incoming numbers (either a simple editable list or a selection of contacts) call..... essentially I want the phone to answer and then hang up immediately so the numbers don't get my voicemail, they just get rejected.
At the moment I have the contacts set with a silent ringtone so I don't get disturbed, but sometimes I get voicemails from them and I want to prevent these.
I have had a look at Mortscript and can find how to handle incoming calls, just not how to handle incoming calls from specific contacts in specific ways.
Any help appreciated
go to www.youmail.com
i like this free service and it handles caller id calls more efficiantly than any software you can purchase.
Thanks for the link, unfortunately it's US only and I'm in the UK.
CallFirewall does exactly that what you need.
Try this:
http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html
It does everything you asked, and a whole lot more.
+1 for magicall... it rocks
Thanks for the links guys, downloading them both now
Call Firewall didn't quite do the trick as I could only get it to go to voicemail, but Magicall does 100% what I want, plus more, so I promptly coughed up the cash for it
Somewhere else on the forum there's a program what lets you make your own interface in html with js/flash. you can use that and make javascript countdown for x seconds and than let it pick up and hang up... or whatever you want not the best solution but it still is a solution
Does anyone know how to get this to work?
It can be found in Start - Settings - Phone - Advanced Tab
Mine is ticked but doesn't seem to do anything when I choose Ignore to an incoming call (i.e. the caller is not sent a text message saying the above)
Any ideas
I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
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I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
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I have unlimited text messages so charges isn't an issue for me.
All I can find is the option to send a text message when a call comes through, but nothing to automatically send a text message on an ignored call.
Hm, I think it's like this. Someone is calling you and if you wan't to ignore/reject the call, put your phone upside down on a table(with screen to the table), the call will be automatically ignored and I think THEN the message will be sent try it, not sure
I think, I have figured it out.
On an incoming call, you have the option to click on "Send text" in the lower left corner. The call is then rejected and you can compose an SMS to send to the caller.
I use an app called SMS Minder to do this myself, and I'm quite pleased with the results. You can have it respond to all missed calls/texts (select BLACKLIST & leave the field blank) or only to missed calls from certain numbers (select WHITELIST & add the numbers you want to respond to).
I've been using it for several months and it makes my work so much easier. I'm a cabdriver, and when a call comes in & doesn't get answered for whatever reason SMS Minder sends a message that says "I can't talk now, please text me".
For the longest time I didn't really trust Texting that much, but it's become an integral part of my work now. So much easier to read&reply to an SMS (10 to 15 seconds tops) than it is to dial voicemail, listen through the prompts & recital of the phonenumber, then listen to the message...and finally after all of THAT is done, then return the person's call. Texting is just that much easier.
Especially if I use a program like this to automate my responses...and a program on my desktop to send other text messages just like they were an email (it's got an interface similar to Outlook). I plug the phone into the computer & tuck it away...then any interaction I have with the phone is done by using Jeyo Mobile Companion (SMS interface with additional cool features) and/or MyMobiler (fully manipulable screen-shot of the phone's screen) on my desktop.
Of all the apps I've tried and/or discarded, these three have become almost indispensable to my work.
Use QSMS To Buddy:FullFeatured Free app from android market
Posted Android app on non Android forum by mistake. Sorry!
i believe, given the age of this thread, that it is about the native windows mobile feature to reject calls with an sms and there was no need to bump the thread with an app for another operating system. also, on android, depending on your phone and rom, this feature might also be pre-installed and available from stock, w/o the need for a 3rd party app.
On my Nokia N95 it would say the name of the person calling me. Can you do this on the X1 ?
do you mean like displaying the name of the person, even if their not saved in your contact list? like how the caller id does on a home phone?
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do you mean like displaying the name of the person, even if their not saved in your contact list? like how the caller id does on a home phone?
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No, the phone would speak out the name of the person calling. So if Joe Blogs called my on my N95 I would hear 'ring, ring, Joe Blogs, ring ring, Joe Blogs...........'
well...back on my blackjack II, i remember when i upgraded from wm 6.0 to 6.1, there was a new program up there called "Voice Command" that allowed you to do this. So I'm guessing it'd still work on the X1 since its an official microsoft program. So just try googling "Windows Voice Command"
Yes, get "Microsoft Voice Commad" and check the settings. By default it should be set to bluetooth only, but you can change it so it reads the name even without the bluetooth. I like it a lot with bluetooth, cause you can set it to also read your text to you
Yeah, but I can't find an answer if the BT on the X1a and MSVC has the same issue as on the Touch Pro, where if you have it say the name of the incoming caller, it won't. You get a corruption sound. Normally that a bell sound. So normally you get "<your ringtone> and in the background of the ringtone, you hear "you got a call from 888-8888"" Or instead of the phone#, you hear the name if its in your address book.
When its broken, you hear your ringtone and in the background a small beep"
here is the link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/about-voice-command.mspx
give it a try and let us know.
even i like that feature on nokia phones
My Voice Command doesn't work properly on incoming calls either. It doesn't say the name of the caller, or even the telephone number. I have seen it work perfectly on an Omnia. Odd that it doesn't work on the X1!
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do you mean like displaying the name of the person, even if their not saved in your contact list? like how the caller id does on a home phone?
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i am in fact looking for this?
my previous phone use to display name of the callers, even if they werent stored in my contacts
how can i get this to work on my x1?
much apperciated
You need MS Voice Command or something similar for X1 to talk.
The current version of MS Voice Command combined with the current WM6.1 build does not announce Caller ID even though the feature is there. Reasons...I don't know. All of the other voice funtionality works great though, including reading of SMS and MMS messages among other things.
caller anouncement doesnt work on the x1 and i dont think anyones has come up with a solution to it yet.
Same
It attenuates my rintone every so often as if it's going to say the name but it never does.
Certain versions of WM don't support caller announcement. I think it is explained on the MS website for Voice Command.