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iPhone Style Voice-mail

Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!

nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
Code:
[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]

another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA

I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E

yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.

I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.

The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.

ljinsane said:
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.

I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...

By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.

Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...

However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread

Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...

However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?

thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.

Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5

Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?

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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.

GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!

Is it possible to trigger based on incoming caller ID

I am looking for an app that lets me do stuff when certain incoming numbers (either a simple editable list or a selection of contacts) call..... essentially I want the phone to answer and then hang up immediately so the numbers don't get my voicemail, they just get rejected.
At the moment I have the contacts set with a silent ringtone so I don't get disturbed, but sometimes I get voicemails from them and I want to prevent these.
I have had a look at Mortscript and can find how to handle incoming calls, just not how to handle incoming calls from specific contacts in specific ways.
Any help appreciated

go to www.youmail.com
i like this free service and it handles caller id calls more efficiantly than any software you can purchase.

Thanks for the link, unfortunately it's US only and I'm in the UK.

CallFirewall does exactly that what you need.

Try this:
http://www.mobiion.com/magicall.html
It does everything you asked, and a whole lot more.

+1 for magicall... it rocks

Thanks for the links guys, downloading them both now

Call Firewall didn't quite do the trick as I could only get it to go to voicemail, but Magicall does 100% what I want, plus more, so I promptly coughed up the cash for it

Somewhere else on the forum there's a program what lets you make your own interface in html with js/flash. you can use that and make javascript countdown for x seconds and than let it pick up and hang up... or whatever you want not the best solution but it still is a solution

[REQ] Voicemail stand alone application

I wonder if there is an application that would pick up my phone after some rings, and plays a message and people can drop a message.
So I will have a voicemailbox with recorded messages which I can point and click at, save them, listen again, etc. Just recorded als .mp3 on internal storage. Maybe even callback options, sms-back options etc.
I really hate dialling that voicemailbox number, choosing 1 and 2 to listen messages. I have no overvieuw of messages etc.
The app looks fairly simple to me. Does it exist already?

You're searching for some kind of on-device visual voice mail
I would really like to see this at this moment my voicemail is nothing more than a question to mail me or sms me but most people do not like that
one question when your phone is off or you are out of range what would you like another app to take it over?

This is a nice idea...
See it more as a secretary app. instead of a voicemail app.
Where you're in your car and you don't / can't talk.
Perhaps something with different messages you can choose from (you need to make them yourself?)
Something like "Hello this is <insert name>, I'm driving at the moment, please leave a message after the beep" *beep* The person leaves a message that will be saved as mp3 file for example.

@WvanWaas
When out of range, your 'standard' voicemail will take over.
But when in meetings, or as said, driving, it would be nice that the persons message can be stored on my device.
The ultimate thing would be that this program can dial my voicemail, automaticcally send DTMF tones (time and pattern), and store eventually new voicemailmessages locally. The number of new voicemails on my network is available (since manila uses it too).
With Telfort home-phone, I get emails with .mp3s of voicemail messages (VOIP). Thats really good.

With vodafone UK I was using vodafone mail - voicemails automatically appeared as emails with WAV attachments.
Was very handy

There dont exist any programs?

the only app is isecretary. it doesnt work on diamond though

I use www.youmail.com and also wrote a simple client to parse through my emails and just list my voicemails in a UI.
Youmail also does speech to text transcription so you don't even have to play the sound file-- just read it.

It not for outside US I guess...
It looks promising...

It exists for Nokia phones
I have not found an application as such for the diamond but I know that it exists for Nokia. With the Nokia N95 there is a built in application that works as a voicemail. Of course only when there is coverage and the phone is working.
The application picks up the call after some time (configurable) and plays a greeting message that you have previously recorded and after the beep, the caller can record his message. The application saves that recording and whenever you are available you can playback that message.
Hope to find one for Diamond.

Yup, my T-Mobile voicemail charges are silly, plus I'd like to have more control and functionality from my voicemail. An included blacklist filter would be handy too.
I have a Touch Pro (Raphael).. Is there really nothing around at the moment that will work? That's kind of strange.

Just kick this one up once more ...

This type of app could cause some expensive long distance charges if you were outside of your local calling area though, no? I'm thinking your phone would need to be connected to the call in order to record an .mp3 voice message locally on the device, whereas carrier voicemail can be received regardless of where you are anywhere in the world without costing you as the user a fee to receive a message.

I see that Touch HD can record calls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808&page=4
A simple application which auto-answers, plays a file, records a message and nicely puts them in a list, so I have total controll of my voicemessages?
That would be well killer-app... I'd pay for it, simply because I need it.

i realy want this app too!!!!!

Sounds nice to me as well
+1 here....

Try This. Loaded on my Diamond but havn't tested it.

65coupei6 said:
Try This. Loaded on my Diamond but havn't tested it.
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thanks, i installed it, and recorded an message for people calling me, but cant get the program pick up my call... i allready said he must pick the call after 3 sec. and also after 0 seconds, he dont pick up any call... i added the number with wich i'm trying, at an group, and i see the missed call in isecretary also, but he dont pick up... any body know how this works? the site op the maker is down

Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks

that's what every diamons-user needs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqnhm8yfTqM

Reject call with SMS

Hi all,
I am a happy new user of the HD2 and until now I am very happy.
I still have a question for all of you:
I have activate Reject call with SMS (and check send automaticly), but I can only do this when my phone is unlocked... is they a tweek, or a reg hack to change this and be able to automaticly send a repley without having to unlock the phone first?
thanks all for your help.

Am I the only one havng this problem?

Same question here: did you find any solution for this?
I'm still searching...

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Same question here: did you find any solution for this?
I'm still searching...
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Same here, anyone a solution?
Thanks in advance!

ranney said:
Same here, anyone a solution?
Thanks in advance!
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With me everything is working properly when the phone is locked only on the screen touch a send a message and that's all

Hmmm,...I have it checkd but I don't believe anybody ever received an sms from me when I reject a call. Weird,..

Try QSMS To Buddy:FullFeatured free app from android market
It takes care of the situation you have explained. It not only allows you to send sms during rejected incoming calls. But it also allows the same when someone else rejects your calls (outgoing rejected): a feature never seen before.
Interestingly you have ability to modify the messages right when you are rejecting the call and sending the sms. e.g. instead of saying "call you back later" you can change it to "call you back in a min"
Demo at youtube: search : "QSMS : Quick SMS To Buddy Android App by Onion Systems"
Regards,
AppUsabilityExpert

Reject++
If you are looking for an app to let you reject incoming calls with predefined or custom SMS and setup a reminder to return a call as well..
so check Reject++
You can:
- Reject a call with SMS, Reminder, Or Both.
- Convenient Slider on top of incoming call screen, slider it up and go with Reject++
- Smart SMS Templates with "Tags"
- Smart Reminders Scheduling Engine.
- Works with mobile screen locked or OFF
- Notifications works no matter if the app is active or not.
Check much more Features & Screenshots for Reject++

QText app has been on my Fav list
QText is the most professional application in the category. I tried many apps and none of them allow you to do below two things
1. Change the message before sending it: e.g. send "will call in a minute" instead of "will call you back later"
2. Send text for outgoing calls as well.
Auto text widget is also included.

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QText is the most professional application in the category. I tried many apps and none of them allow you to do below two things
1. Change the message before sending it: e.g. send "will call in a minute" instead of "will call you back later"
2. Send text for outgoing calls as well.
Auto text widget is also included.
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Hi everybody,
I had this function before upgrading to JB 4.1.2, but nolonger now?
I wonder if someone can tell me how to get it back.
Thanks.

Works fine on WM6.5 & if need enhance the possible options further then Maicall is probably the answer as can handle sms replies as a whole & individually per number etc & rules can be listed in order of checking.
Far better than any of the Android options I have tried & reminds me why my daily work device is still an HD2 on WM6.5.x .

Automated Call Handling / Answering Machine Software

Hi there,
I'm looking for some software that would automatically answer the phone, play a pre-recorded message, then give the option to be put through to me or leave a voicemail immediately (press 1 to talk directly, press 2 to leave a voicemail....etc...).
Another good feature would be to divert certain groups of contacts to voicemail / pre-recorded message at certain times - i.e. business contacts 6pm-9am, personal contacts 9am-6pm...etc...
Are there any decent 'call handling' apps you can recommend?

danfard said:
Hi there,
I'm looking for some software that would automatically answer the phone, play a pre-recorded message, then give the option to be put through to me or leave a voicemail immediately (press 1 to talk directly, press 2 to leave a voicemail....etc...).
Another good feature would be to divert certain groups of contacts to voicemail / pre-recorded message at certain times - i.e. business contacts 6pm-9am, personal contacts 9am-6pm...etc...
Are there any decent 'call handling' apps you can recommend?
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Yeah its called voicemail as you mention???

umbrellaman08 said:
Yeah its called voicemail as you mention???
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Similar, but I'd like to encourage people to leave voicemails first, rather than call me directly unless absolutely necessary. i.e giving them the option of leaving a voicemail first, then holding if they really need to talk one-to-one.
I get a lot of calls and it can be difficult to answer them when you're in the middle of a piece of work. I think it'd cut down the amount of direct calls I get, and I can set some time aside for dealing with the non-urgent calls, which will mean clients get a more thorough response to their query.
I've found some software called iSecretary, which seems to be worth a look into.

AFAIK it doesnt exist. I (vaguely) remember reading somewhere that phone hardware is specifically made to not be able to do this as it would deprive the telcos their voicemail revenue. I think isecretary uses the speakerphone and records the output with the mic, meaning you get a very soft, low quality recording... plus it wouldnt be the most practical option if you are in meetings