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No MSN on MDA Pro (T-Mobile, Netherlands)

Hmmm, I just found out there's no MSN Mobile on my MDAPro. Can anyone post a CAB with MSN suitable for the WM2005 OS ??
Thanx !
Sammy ;o)

its a cab file for wm2003se but it will work on wm2005 too...
regards

you can buy it for 19,95 dollar on msn

unfortuntily i can't gete het 2003 to work. So anybody any other options?
grt,
Ruben

like i said
microsoft wants you to buy it
i did, i have msn on my mda pro

Are the $ 19 once ore returning?
I don't understand the decision of MS. This will push the user to Skype and evangelize other PC users to do this also.

http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=pmsn_market

Hang on, isn't Pocket MSN is supposed to be standard on all WM2005 devices?
You don't have to pay for MSN Messenger for any other platform which Microsoft supports, so why on God's Holy Earth would they charge for this version? Especially as it's free and pre-installed on the JasJar.
It surely can't be a Microsoft decision, sounds like T-Mobile (Germany) are the ones who are screwing everything up to me...

T-Mobile (Germany) wants that you use t-zones 8)

sub69 said:
Hang on, isn't Pocket MSN is supposed to be standard on all WM2005 devices?
You don't have to pay for MSN Messenger for any other platform which Microsoft supports, so why on God's Holy Earth would they charge for this version? Especially as it's free and pre-installed on the JasJar.
It surely can't be a Microsoft decision, sounds like T-Mobile (Germany) are the ones who are screwing everything up to me...
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The PocketMSN install on the MDA Pro CD connects to a Microsoft site where you can download PocketMSN. Installing it prior to activating it with Microsoft will result in an error message. In this case Microsoft are not charging for the USE of MSN but for the use of the PocketMSN application, and they do that by preventing the PocketMSN application from connecting to MSN and Hotmail prior to activation.
In short, Microsoft are selling the application instead of shipping it for free, and by leaving MSN out of the default WM5 OS make sure that you buy it. Has nothing to do with T-Mobile.

On the jasjar it comes installed and you just login and you're good to go.

sharkey said:
On the jasjar it comes installed and you just login and you're good to go.
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Yeah, but I-Mate probably paid MS a lump sum to be able to include in in the bundled software. Not every operator may want to do so, in order to save a dime. Mind you: these devices are heavily subsidised (at least here in the Netherlands). I'm on the Relax 200 subscription (which I extended) and I got the MDA Pro for €239... The normal cost is € 745.
Most of the MDA's they sell will be in combination with a subscription (and thus subsidised) and therefore the package needs to be as cheap as possible...

Pocket Msn.
can some god send person please upload pocket msn over here I have already activated pocket msn services under my email address but have failed to download the setup of pocket msn, as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....ive asked my friend to download it at his place he has the same issue it terminates itself i am sure someone out here is using pocket msn if not using has it in the backup folder could you please upload it here or upload it to http://rapidshare.de or http://www.megaupload.com and post the link here for the download......
ive contacted microsoft support team and all crap replies one guy is suggesting me to contact microsoft u.k one is saying contact msn support team and both have given links where as on the links there is no information for pocket msn support and microsoft u.k would'nt reply.
this thread is my last hope i had posted a new thread also but no one has the courtesy to post the file for me as there are only increasing views no replies....
P.S : if you would like to give a shot at the download link then here it is http://mobile.msn.com/download.aspx?id=pmsn_installer

MDA Pro crashes after Pocket msn install and reset
I installed Pocket MSN. It worked, but after a soft reset, the device won't start up again, it just hangs in the boot screen (the T-mobile logo.)
First I thought it was a compatibility problem, but the same thing happened after a hard reset and a fresh install of only Pocket MSN.
Anyone else has the same problem?
ANd than to think I paid for the service.

Re: MDA Pro crashes after Pocket msn install and reset
johnkorver said:
I installed Pocket MSN. It worked, but after a soft reset, the device won't start up again, it just hangs in the boot screen (the T-mobile logo.)
First I thought it was a compatibility problem, but the same thing happened after a hard reset and a fresh install of only Pocket MSN.
Anyone else has the same problem?
ANd than to think I paid for the service.
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you've paid for it and you have the file.....i've paid for it and i don't have the file......paid for something which i have seen as yet :S

Re: Pocket Msn.
zairyaab said:
....as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....
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Must be a temporary problem. I successfully downloaded this at work earlier (to post here for anyone who might want it), but decided it'd probably be pointless as I assumed it'd need to be registered (paid for).
I'm unable to download more than 30% of the file now because as you say, it keeps cutting out, but I still have the complete .exe at work, and if no-one else has posted this by tomorrow morning, I'll upload it for you as soon as I get back to the office...

Pocket MSN File
I at least can post the file, it's a free download. You have to pay for the registration.

Re: Pocket Msn.
sub69 said:
zairyaab said:
....as i try to download, it terminates the connection itself and i dont have a complete .exe file to install in my pda....
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Must be a temporary problem. I successfully downloaded this at work earlier (to post here for anyone who might want it), but decided it'd probably be pointless as I assumed it'd need to be registered (paid for).
I'm unable to download more than 30% of the file now because as you say, it keeps cutting out, but I still have the complete .exe at work, and if no-one else has posted this by tomorrow morning, I'll upload it for you as soon as I get back to the office...
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hey dude....thank you very much...i will be waiting for it as i know and have experienced by tommorow also the file wont be here untill you post it.
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I at least can post the file, it's a free download. You have to pay for the registration.
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hey dude .....would really appreciate if you could post it, and yes i have already paid for the registration gbp 10.99

ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Install_Pocket_MSN.exe

Beaten to it! I forgot about my training session this morning!
So does this mean that everyone with an MDA Pro will have to pay £10.99 to get MSN to work on their device? Sneaky little buggers - T-Mobile - aren't they?
I assume there's some sort of legal 'issue' about extracting the MSN app from a JasJar, and posting it here, or is that not actually possible???

MSN missing ?

is it normal i have got no MSN pre-installed on my universal
cheers,, cudo

If you mean MSN messenger, it is called "Pocket MSN" and the icon is a butterfly. From within that you then select MSN messenger. I had a similar problem when I got mine, not being able to find it. I must say I don't like it like this.

nope i tried to localize it everywhere but i just dont have it installed.
i am using mda pro. even if i try to serch within help there is nothing about pocket msn, msn and so on...why is that maybe i just need to upgrade to the lates ROM ?

mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro

mine never came with it either mate had to use agile msng in the end,
im also running a tmob uk mda pro

You all need to upgrade your ROMS to the latest version to get MSN Messenger!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_pro.html
:wink:

brill thanks

thanks mate just downloading that,
how do you find ext rom stable and is it a pain in the ass to do
also does it free much up and increase speeds
cheers

Installation was pretty straight forward. I wrote my first thoughts here and so far tey havent changed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54223&sid=9430effb43d1986994bed07cca585c50
Have you got yours sorted now?

For those interested, some operators do not ship their PDA-phones with MSN messenger so as not to compete with their own instant messenging solutions / SMS offers.

Who wants the real MSN Messenger for WM5/TyTN

After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.
It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.
http://node13.org/pda/
Go here (my own site), and do the following:
1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.
2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)
3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)
4. Reset your device
Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.
Enjoy!

Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?

Thanks for that!

deep-blue said:
After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.
It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.
http://node13.org/pda/
Go here (my own site), and do the following:
1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.
2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)
3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)
4. Reset your device
Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.
Enjoy!
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For some reasons, every time I tried to run your msn23 from my computer (connected to the device of course), it showed the InstallShield 1645: and it stopped there. I have also tried msn22 and the result is the same. BTW, I have done the unlock CID already if it would matter at all.
Any suggestions?
Paul
Hermn 200
Rom Version1.20.161.5
ROM date: 06/06/06
Radio Version: 1.13.00.00
Protoco; Version: 32.49.7018.00W

I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.
You just install it and log in...thats all...

Moskus said:
Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?
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ditto that, what is the difference?

aquasesh said:
I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.
You just install it and log in...thats all...
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Any chance you can send it to me ?

acantril said:
Any chance you can send it to me ?
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Downloads available here
http://ideas.live.com/
Mike

mikechannon said:
Downloads available here
http://ideas.live.com/
Mike
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thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol

aquasesh said:
thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol
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Yes, I don't know why Microsoft have it so obscurely referenced, not easy to track it down. By the way also works well for me too.
Mike

Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?
Thanks!

gavinmoffitt said:
Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?
Thanks!
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Well now that's a tricky question... welllll ok yes we are, at least I am. The one that's like the old MSN for mobile but not quite if you know what I mean!! And the one that shows as Live.com on this link http://ideas.live.com/, In case there's confusion "MSN Messenger is now Windows Live Messenger" hence the use of the name Live.com.
Mike

you try this agilemessenger
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!
Enjoy

5n0rk said:
you try this agilemessenger
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!
Enjoy
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Well now 5n0rk, I think I might just do that. Heard of it before but never thought it would inspire me, but from what you say it might be interesting
Mike

him, agile messenger is fabulous! to try for believing!

Is Agile Messenger really free? On their web site they only have 7 day trial versions after which you pay and through the nose...
http://billing.am-im.net/am/eur.php
Try not to get too hooked unless you want to be spending up big.
Regards

Free on WM5 "for the moment"
As it is slightly buggey or at least was, seems much more stable these days.

Yes is Free!!!

Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.
Thank you.

monty5k said:
Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.
Thank you.
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Which one are you referring to:
If it's Live messenger it's here
http://ideas.live.com
Mike

RUN 2 hotmail accounts from one device

I don't know if this has already been noticed but if you've got windows live on your device you can also have pocket msn running aswell but dont wanna type up a howto just incase its already done any1 want to know how

is this really possible ?

prettierwendead said:
I don't know if this has already been noticed but if you've got windows live on your device you can also have pocket msn running aswell but dont wanna type up a howto just incase its already done any1 want to know how
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What do you mean by, "Got windows live on your device"? Is there an app, or are you just using Internet Explorer to browse to http://mobile.live.com
Rob

yes it is possible
@dny238: you can get windows live mobile for wm5 by searching the forums or form the ftp
@mrmrmrmr: indeed it is possible as i have it on mine
how to: ok i have only tested this on the htc AKU 3.3 test rom but it worked and it seems to left poket msn installed after installing windows live
basically all i needed to do was to enter the windows folder of my device and found a file called INSTMSGR with an msn messenger icon it loaded msn messenger (the old one that came with the device) and pocket msn appeared again in the start menu
please leave feedback on whethere this worked for you tell me your rom version aswell so i know which ones it willl work on and which ones it won't
will post screenshots as soon as i have time

i suppose using http://mobile.live.com you could have three email addresses going if th need be

Hey a bit side tracking but just want to point out, I've been trying windows live (the app version) on my SPV M3100. And basically it blows pocket msn, the web based Live and in fact any other messenger app out of the water. Its so easy and functional. First time MS got something right in a long while.
Just wish my wifi connection didnt cut off every time the phone went into sleep mode.
If you aint got Windows Live Messenger get it now.
( I should ask MS to pay me for the free promotion)

even easier
after fiddling with my old charmer I found an easier way to do it as the other method didn't work
go to windows folder, start menu, programs and set it to show all files the poket msn icon will apear but still won't appear in start menu so just copy and past a short cut to the same folder and voila poket msn and windows live at the same time and this does work
great if you have a personal and business email accounts and you want to moniter them both

prettierwendead said:
@dny238: you can get windows live mobile for wm5 by searching the forums or form the ftp
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I found the download from here...
h**p://ppcwarez.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4343&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90

Yeah, butt kickn
This app fixes all the issues I have with PocketMSN's email sync. Yeah!! Thanks much.
Rob

Pocket MSN

Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!

http://www.thepoorhouse.org.uk/put_msn_messenger_back_on_your_windows_mobile_5_gadgetry

yarod_g14 said:
Good morning Chaps and Chappesses.
I hope everyone is well and happy. I am really enjoying using my Ameo but I cannot remember how to re-enable pocket MSN which t-moblie appear to have removed from my device.
I had this same problem on an older PPC I had but I cannot remember what I did to resolve this!
I had pocket MSN setup on my MDA pro and #I found it extremely usefull for checking mail and msn messenger.
Can anyone advise me on getting this back on my device?
Mny thanks!!
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if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.

I'm interested

WOWZERS!!!
PLEASE!!!
I would love a copy of the live messenger!
If you could post it before someone decides its a bad idea and blocks out posts
I am rather annoyed that I cannot have my hotmail messages delivered into my inbox like I did on my MDA pro.
That saved time and effort logging into hotmail through opera.
I guess I will not be installing another T-mobile Rom on this device but I had better find a copy of the HTC advantage Rom istead for TOMTOM and pocket MSN.
I await the goodness of :Live messenger !!
thanks!

Does the Live messenger keep your MSN contacts isolated, or does it still import all your phone contacts and add them as contacts (like it did when i once installed it on universal, prompting my immediate uninstall)
Also, does it suffer from the same problem with the winxp live messenger where some of the more recent contacts you add never appear online, even though they are online ?

Interested!!
wu5262 said:
if lots of you are interested, i can post a windows message live up here, it's the next generation of pocket MSN.
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Yes please mate.
Ooops! My bad. Just saw the dedicated thread for it. Thanks Wu.