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Does anyone know of a good Movie convertor? I have all my movies already converted on my PC to full size Xvid for streaming to the TV (Pinnacle showcenter) but want ro reduce them down for my exec.
I have always used pocket divx and lathe in the past but can never get the audio in sync.
I have been trialling Pocket DVD studio but the playback is far inferior and choppy compared to pocket divx encoder!
You've got 2 options.
1. DVD to Pocket PC by Makayama Software Tokyo, Japan. Compress 2hr DVD to 128 mb only.
2. Canopus Pro Coder 2 also a good compressor to all formats and media type. http://www.canopus.us/us/products/procoder2/pm_procoder2.asp
I use both of them and very satisfied. All my memory cards were full of Movies or Music.
Or take the plunge and learn how to use VirtualDub for the best results. It takes a fair bit of learning, but once you know what you're doing it's quicker and produces better results than any other software.
Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
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Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
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Thanks for the help folks. These two look exactly what I am looking for.
I cant try them yet as I am doing a conversion using movie shrink & burn 2. I will post my results for all that I test later!
Hi question...
Coming from a P9 user, so please excuse my ignorance..
Isnt there any need to resize the screen/view? what's the dimension? When i converted movies for my p9 before, i had to make the movie smaller to fit my realplayer.. is there such a thing for Universal? What are the dimensions?
Thanks!!!
The screensize on the universal is 640x480 which is about the same as a 700MB XviD or DivX which may jitter a little and take up way too much storage.
I usually shrink down to 320 x 240 (maintaining the aspect ratio) or even less which doesnt present any noticeable loss of picture quality on such a small screen. For best playback result I use the free TCPMP (formerly Betaplayer) in full screen.
Try pocket DVD studio, simple easy uses wm codec, so you get good quality. Aslo allows you to output films, fo ppc, palm and other players. Bst thing is it does all the hard work. You can also cover pretty much all files. I have just converted all my south park series from realplayer to my m5000.
And you can resize screen to your hearts content from smartphone to vga size.
Hi, a quick question about video screen size. I have tried full screen mode on my o2 Exec and the playback is still the same size, with a dark boarder around it, what can i do to fix it? Thanks!
@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
Regards
I will try a different player; to convert them into 640X480 will be space consuming... thanks.
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@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
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I've had your same problem. I tried resizing videos (with no success).
I now use TCPMP. I can now play avi's and mpeg's in full screen (File sizes are a bit prohibitive though)
No offence if I can covert a 3hr long bolloywood film to fit easily approx 250mb at vga resloution? How can you not covet 2 hour films in high quality to tiny sizes?
Have you also tried pocket divx?
Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
Thanks!
Got it now... Im using TCPMP now and it's far superior than WMP. I never did use WMP after I installed this wonderful video player.. It even played smallville xvid... which i cant even play in my laptop without the codecs installed..
Really enjoying this phone.. well, despite of the bugs..
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Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
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If you use the right software to encode you can then also then play natively at 640 on your exec.
TCPMP includes Xvid/Divx codecs so it doesnt care what codec was used to encode and doesnt suffer from the WMP screensize problem. IMHO TCPMP is far superior to any other player. If you want a free encoder for your existing movies use pocketdivx encoder. I trialed about 5 commercial products a few months back but didnt have time to post my results. None of them were perfect and pocketdivx encoder produced the best picture/sound quality results but does suffer from time sync issues from time to time.
Its a bit like the cheap £30 asda dvd syndrome. They play anything whilst the top of the range Japanes brands play nothing except retail DVDs
I use Pocket DVD Player for Palm, yes for PALM, to convert a movie and use TCPMP to resize it to fit the screen of my O2 EXEC. So basically, I use the 5th setting where the black part on a wide screen DVD is automatically croped out, thus giving a a full screen effect by automatically taking out the black part of the screen found on the bottom and top part of a wide screen DVD movie.
I use the following settings:
Resolution: 464x224 (104kPixel)
Output Size: about 488 MB
Audio: 40 Kbps, 44 KHz, Mono
Video: 464x224, 15 fps
Duration: about 2:08:00
With the following settings I can convert any DVD and play it smoothly with no lags, skips, nor any miss in audio. As you can see, the only drawback is it uses up a huge amount of SD card space, about 488 MB. But I don't care, as long as it is easy and simple. I can easily delete and exchange any movie I want. I can also make the output size smaller, but it causes skips and the quality of conversion is not that good. With the above settings, my EXEC turns into a mini DVD player. Heck, it made my friends wonder and ask, "where did I bought such a small DVD player?" They were amazed to hear, "Ohhhh it's my phone."
Not only that, since I am using 464x224 size conversion, I can play it on my TH55/E1 and O2 XDA EXEC with one conversion and both running on TCPMP.
Howdy all,
I have had my M5000 for some time now - and having some experience in video / compression settings, I have spent months fiddling back and forth trying to find the perfect settings for SMOOTH playback.
I have read thread after thread all over the web with half help, good ideas, etc but no definitive answers.
The strange thing is that after searching for a long time, I came accross an Xvid of Mr T's "Be Somebody" (don't ask) - and this runs absolutely perfectly on my M5000.
Analysing the exact compression settings with vDub and gSpot reveals the following :
Frame Size : 352x240, 29.970fps
Length : 90418 frames
Decompresser : XviD MPEG4 Codec
Number of Key Frames : 678
Data Rate : 802Kbps
Audio Sample rate : 44100Hz
Channels : 2
Compression : Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer 3
Data Rate : 96Kbs
Thinking I had cracked it, I then used these exact compression settings on several ripped DVDs, but to no avail. Jerk. Jerk. Stutter. etc.
I've even tried setting the data rate as low as poss for both audio and video, reducing frame size to tiny, but it still won't play smoothly.
So - after this long rant (apologies), could anyone please tell me the exact settings they use for absolute 'smooth as a button' playback - and if there's anything painfully obvious that I am missing?!
I am running these vids from my highspeed SD card, with TCPMP 0.72RC1 installed on the card also.
I am happy to use any software, but am rather keen on Pocket DVD Studio.
I am extremely jealous of those who appear to have full framerate playback, so please help - for the sake of my sanity!!
well my xda is in the post on its way to me, but i did have the same problem with a standalone divx dvd player. you need to go to moitah.net and download the mpeg4modifier and unpack the bitstream.... this sorted the problem for my divx player...
let me know how you get on
Greetings.
My Exec plays videos encoded with PocketDivxEncoder full screen with no stuuter or jerking. I simply use a preset for one of the Pocket PCs and it works like a charm. I use TCPMP as my video player.
Good luck!
lathe
Hi,
Same here. I use PocketDivxEncoder (free) and TCPMP, works like a charm. I tried upgrading to lathe (bought it) for the sake of being able to compress to a higher resolution for the possibilities of the universal, but that was not a succes. The extra options are nice but you end up with a blocky and stuttering picture (even if you put in the same configurations used in PocketDivxEncoder). After a couple of test runs like this I gave up on lathe and went back to PocketDivxEncoder. So my advice is to stick with this program for encoding.
Good luck with finding your best solution!
Hi I am on a universal, after not being impressed with wm player i upgraded to TCPMP aswell and its very good, full screen works wonders. As above its all free.
Have you tried encoding the video with Microsofts WM9 Encoder, it's free and, fair enough the resolution isn't great as with all these encoders for pocket pc, the picture is perfectly good on a 3.5" screen. WME has a built in Pocket PC profile to make converting a file even easier.
If the source is in 16:9 format the letterbbox is automatically added to keep aspect ratio or you can choose to crop the file etc......
Hi, I have been encoding my videos with sompy and I have been using 320 x 240 as the encoding settings however when i goto full screen I have black bars... when I play a file that has not been encoded for a smaller resoultion when I go full screen and check the option to fit to screen I get full screen with no bars... what encoding options should I use to not get bars in full screen mode?
im playing with tcpmp..
any ideas what optimal settings would be?
I use an iBook and there is a freeware called HandBrake. I adjust to 320x240 and encode to mp4 and aac audio. It'll take a DVD down to about a 1 gig. It's the same process I use for my iPod video and I get the same quality out of my Prophet and Wizard (OC'd to 240) using TCPMP w/aac plugin for playback as I do w/my iPod. Full screen and perfect quality.
hi there...
if i wanna have loads of movies with me...
waht format for my magician would you advice to use? (codec, avi, mpg, what converter or by hand? etc.)
thanx in advance!
Use the default WMP! You need to set up a synchronization with pc and in advance setting of Sync setup, choose a format of some kbps that suggests the video size to be approximately 60MB/hr. Further every video gets reduced in size and optimized for pocket pc when transfered through syncronization!
ok thx 4 the answer...
u mean the wmp on my xp? since what version will this sync thing work?
(i never use wmp *gg* i always use vlc player, for everything... )
you might want to look at tcpmp, which can play most file "out-of-the-box" - that is no conversion needed. It may have an impact on battery performance, so it might be an good idea to use pocket divx to convert into 320 x 240 video.
i normally watch avi using tcpmp.. speed wise i am not sure.. but the quality is quite good..
tcpmp is great
I use Divx pro to convert my stuff to .divx then use TCMP to play em.
@ 320x240 and a bitrate of over 500kbs? quality is VERY good, provided the source had a higher res and bit rate.
I do get some frames skipped at the start(my mem card and tcmp buffering data), but apart from that, it runs at max frame rate.
whitemoo.
hi guys,
I'm glad having a Xperia since last week....but I'm unable to run videos fluently - even with TCPMP 0.72RC1.
There was a "James Bond" trailer von the device when I have bought it, but it runs with 1 frame per 5-10 seconds!
even other movies don't play fluently.
Yesterday I did a hard-reset....but this didn't help.
Does anyone have the same problems?? Or a solution for this probs?
I even tryed out the "Turbo Speed X1 - Up to 8 X faster Performance than standard setup"...but even this didn't help...
//edit: there's no branding on the device...ROM: 1.02.932.3 from 08/29/2008
hi Cysign,
first i have to say sorry... i cannot help you with your specific problem.
but i have got a related problem. the bond trailer runs ok with my x1i... so i tried to rip a dvd for the x1 by myself using the following conversion-settings:
video: 480x270, h264, mp4, 25fps (pal) @ 796kbps
audio: aac @ 128kbps
this resulted in a 706mb file.
i copied the file via active sync to the 8gb flash card in the phone. all went well so far but when i watch the movie it looks somewhat "artificial". meaning that this movie looks like it was made by using a home-videocamera. (i hope this discribes it a little)
the bond trailer doesnt have this videoish appearance.
what went wrong ? are my settings exceeding the capabilities of the x1? or do you have other suggestions ? (btw, i tried to use the same settings as the bond trailer)
greetz
Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
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Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
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that bond trailer ran pretty good on my x1a. i cant remember if i watched the whole thing or just to see how it ran but from what i did see, it was good. no lag or freeze up. i played it on the standard media player that came on the phone. i didnt play it thru the panel tho, i just played it by opening up media player. how were you running it? my x1a is pretty much all stock with no hacks on it.
i also had some movies that i ripped in .3gp format and from what i can tell, it also ran pretty good. i ripped these movies for my other phone (lg cu500) and my nokia internet tablet and so it also runs pretty good on the x1a.
i like ripping in .3gp because i can play it on any of my devices and the files are about 100mb per two hour movie. i think my resolution that i ripped my dvd was something like 480 x 240 but im not for certain. its kind of funny that not all devices will run mpeg because of the different variations of mpeg. kind of dissapointing when a product says it will a certain format but when you try and run it, it just so happen it doesnt support that perticular format.
Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
but it doesn't play most formats and even some of my mp4s sadly
Similar problem here.
The only vid that plays well is the bond trailer.
All others (wmv) are played but with a horrible fps rate
Tried to start media player directly from the today screen and via panel... no difference.
Looks like a fast slideshow.
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Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
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i tried both, playing via wmp and the media panel but the appearance of my ripped movie stays the same....
there is no stuttering but (as i said in my first post) it looks like it has something to do with the framerate. ?
btw, here is a readout from the program "super 2008 build 33" of the bond trailer:
Video
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Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : [email protected]
Codec settings, CABAC : No
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 892 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 260 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate mode : CFR
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.298
StreamSize/String : 12.6 MiB
Language : English
Audio
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Codec : AAC LC
Codec/Family : AAC
Codec/Info : AAC Low Complexity
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize/String : 1.81 MiB
Language : English
I tried a My name is Earl episode a few days ago. It's in 1280x720 resolution so I thought it would be a good starting point for a test.
I managed to play it ok i media player at 800x448 or around there, but only with 600 kbps bitrate. It looked ok and played fairly smooth. I would say around 20 fps.
For recoding I used the Xvid4PSP program with modified default MP4 profile.
You need to use x264 (AVC) profile 4.2 and AAC LC (Low complexity). Then it should play with hardware acceleration.
800x480 resolution may be overkill, since the pixels are so tiny, so I would recommend a much lower resolution (600x'something') and around 600 kbps bitrate for a nice result.
I just run the 350mb (ish) avi files direct in Coreplayer.
Res is around 640x352.
TV shows are fine, and IronMan only had a few drops in the high action scenes.
Here's what I do with my videos:
Open PocketDivXEncoder on my pc.
Select HD-TV as the option.
Select the movies I want to endcode.
Drop video quality to 70.
Audio qaulity to maximum.
Resize video (keeping aspect ratio) to 400 horizontal.
Encode.
These all play in Coreplayer smooth as silk
I personally do absolutely nothing. I download a movie and just place it on my sd card and watch it through core player. It plays smooth with no compression at all.
try using spb mobile dvd to convert your movies, i've done this with some movies that didn't play smoothly and now they all work perfectly
Im currently using TCMP im just wondering if anyone has any ideas for the optimal settings for it
Cheers
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Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
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what is a recommended buffer rate for watching videos?
Can someone confirm that the only player that utilises the media accelerator is the media panel?
I had thought that WMP also uses the accelerator.
Also what are the codecs the accelerator uses?
I've tried various MP4's and i've found only by lowering the resolution do I get smooth playback.
I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated.
I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated.
I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated. I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated. I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
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the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
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In super if you look in the video panel you can see the H264 Profile in the options section.
Click on the "H" button and the profiles pops open and select your baseline from there.
I've tried Baseline 1 now and still i'm not getting acceleration...the file still plays faster on Coreplayer than it does in the panel.
I'm wondering if this is because I have Jack's custom Rom using pubbas panel installer for the Media experience?
Also nobody answered me about whether or not WMP uses acceleration?